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Xanthious,

You are looking in the correct areas. However, Prairie St. itself runs N-S, but there are occasionally some SW's down there. Elkhart has been fairly dead even with the nicer weather. As far as how to go about the pick-up, just RTFF. There is plenty of advice here.

Z

[QUOTE=Xanthious]Well was coming home from a card game Saturday night around 1 in the morning and thought I might see if I couldnt find a way to spend some of my winnings down town. Sorry to say that there was nothing to be seen on Harrison or Marion. I decided to check a little more southward and spotted two girls sitting on some steps just south of Prarie St by the old City Market. Thought about stopping but LEO was out in force. All in all the city seemed extremely dead outside of those two girls on the steps. Anyone else having better luck ?[/QUOTE]

Zebra,

Thanks for the response. Good to know that Im in the right spots. As for the other stuff I found that link about three minutes after I sent you that PM. [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3280&page=2&pp=15[/url]

Thanks again for the help man. Hopefully I can get a report or two up here soon.

X

Xanthious,

That info looks like what you need. I think the single most important thing is NEVER discuss ANYTHING other than a ride until after the SW is in the car and you have driven a few blocks from the stroll. Second, let her bring up the business if you can. The only time I've ever had trouble was when I violated The Prime Directive and discussed biz with a "SW" that wouldn't get in...she was a ULE decoy.

When you are cruising make sure your vehicle is in PERFECT working order. Drive like a preacher-man.

Finally, if your gut is telling you that something isn't right, believe it. It (your gut) may be wrong, but you don't want to find out the hard way that you should have listened. It is better to pass an opportunity than get pinched.

Always, always, always think with the big head. Happy mongering, be careful and play safe.

Z

Well, went out around 10pm tonight and drove around Har/Mar for a bit but didnt see anything. Decided to go hit S. Main St between the tracks and Prairie St. Saw a pair of working girls, one was a younger dark haired girl with a knock out body and the other one was kinda older and kinda larger. Drove around the block to circle back and grab the younger girl who was over by that bar on Main and Prairie and son of ***** if she wasnt gone. I settled for the older of the two and after a bit of driving around discovered she had a much higher opinion of the value of her services than I did. In short I wasnt paying .5 for a BJ from some chunky SW. Drove around a little more before I ended up here typing this out. Might go back out a little later though. I will be sure to update this if I do. Play safe.

X

Went did the Elkhart the other night at about 9, and absolutly no girls out. I happened to be on LWW last night at about 10 and saw a couple of BSW, but I did not have time to make the stop. Lots of people out just sitting and watching. When it's like that, I don't like to cruise too much.

I hope someone is having more luck than I am right now. I may be out too early, but that's when I have time to monger. Oh well, just my luck.

Play Safe,
Dude

Was getting gas over at 7-11 on Jackson/Johnson and as I was leaving I saw the chunky girl that I turned away last week walking South towards Middlebury. She recognized me and walked over asking for a ride and wanted to offer her services at a much more reasonable rate. I didn't have anyplace else to be so I figured what they heck. Drove around making small talk and when I asked about her name she told me it was "ummm Angie" after a pause of sorts. We drove to a spot I picked out and she gave a very decent, although somewhat rushed, oral exam and in return I gave her a picture of the seventh president. All in all if I see her again Id probably pick her up for another go round. As always YMMV. Play safe !

X

Xanthious,

Would you recommend cruising in that area? I know you can find SW's all over, but I usually don't look east of Main St., although i will very occasionally drive Middlebury to Prairie and turn south to Main. The was a WSW that used to live on Middlebury and she'd come out if you drove past. She no longer lives there.

Z

[QUOTE=Xanthious]Was getting gas over at 7-11 on Jackson/Johnson and as I was leaving I saw the chunky girl that I turned away last week walking South towards Middlebury.

The past several weeks have been VERY slow in the city with a heart. It may have heart, but pu$$y has been difficult to find. This is a long post.

About 3 weeks ago I was using one of the voice chat services and hooked up with Tasha. She is white, with blonde hair and extensions I think. She is a big girl (5' 8" and 200) offering full body nude massage (.5) and extras. She is not too bad looking with nice firm C-D cup tits and a shaved kitty. She wanted another .5 for mutual oral. She nutted when I DATY, but her oral skills, which were not bad, stopped when I was ready. I did blow all over those nice tits. I'd recommend, but skip the massage and spend the first .5 on something that counts. She met me at a house in Mishawaka.

Other than that, I have had lousy luck. "Sarah" contacted me on the same chat line. She has a place on the west side of SB near the airport. We arranged to meet and when I got there, she came out and hopped in. She asked if I had time to drive her to Mishawaka to get "babysitter" money from her mom. I said no, but Icould help her out with .2. Then it all went south. One of these days I'll learn, no funds up front. Yep, she took it and went in to a building I couldn't see. I thought oh well, but then she came back. I figured I had misjudged her. She said she needed anothe .1 and I (like a fool) obliged. She didn't come back this time. She also may use a name that starts with a J. The next day I was on the chat line again and she messaged me. I told her I was the guy she stole from the day before and I wasn't interested in anything but meeting her to get what she already owed me. She had the stones to say that we could meet and she'd take good care of me if I took care of her. I said no I'd already taken care of her and she jobbed me. Watch out for her.

There is a girl in Elkhart that goes by Carrie. Dark hair and eyes, slim, small tits. I think I had seen her before, but never dated. She told me she hadn't been out in about a year and a half, but roommate troubles had her back on the streets. I picked her up around 3rd and Jackson for 1/2n1/2 at .3. Very uninspired performance, just laid there whlie I got Jr ready. I will not pick up again.

Finally, the worst of all. I picked up this darkhaired WSW last night near 5th and High. I picked her up about year ago, but she told me "I don't do that." I felt sorry for her 'cause of the rain. She's average height, big tits and a bit of a belly. Sorry, but I didn't et a name. We agreed to .3 for 1/2n1/2 and drove to my spot. First she wouldn't undress, then for the BBBJ she was leaning on my leg and smashing, but would change positions. The skills were lousy and about 30 seconds in she looks up and says "Why isn't it hard?" I told her To get her tits and pussy out and i get it ready. She did, but says "Now I aint gonna speard it all out. Thats not me." So I start to play with her a little (nice feeling kitty) and she says, " Your fingers don't go in!"

Well, that was enough. I told her that was it get dressed and we were done, I was tired of all her bs rules. Well we had this long argument all the way back to where I picked her up. I wish I had the stones to just put her ass out. I emphatically DO NOT recommend.

I guess thats it. Good luck, play safe, watch your six.

Z

[QUOTE=Zebra98]Xanthious,

Would you recommend cruising in that area? I know you can find SW's all over, but I usually don't look east of Main St., although i will very occasionally drive Middlebury to Prairie and turn south to Main. The was a WSW that used to live on Middlebury and she'd come out if you drove past. She no longer lives there.

Z[/QUOTE]Nah I probably wouldn't look over there. This is the first Ive even seen a working girl over there and she claimed that she was on her way home from someplace or another. I'm pretty sure she simply remembered me from the few days earlier I picked her up and thought that she could make some quick money. I thought it was kinda funny though that she was willing to work for .2 then but the first time I picked her up (and promptly dropped her back off) she claimed she never did anything for less than .5.

The one place that I will suggest you look though is the strip of main st. between the old City Market(Dunno what its called now) and the Post Office . From what Ive seen the best time to hit that area seems to be around 11pm or after. It was around 11 I saw that REALLY good looking dark haired girl. I'm still kicking myself for missing her.

Was she real slender? If so, I think it sounds like "Star." I have dated her once before. She was kinda nervous and that made me a little nervous. Not a bad experience, but not the best either. I suppose I should try her again.

Zebra

[QUOTE=Xanthious]
The one place that I will suggest you look though is the strip of main st. between the old City Market(Dunno what its called now) and the Post Office . From what Ive seen the best time to hit that area seems to be around 11pm or after. It was around 11 I saw that REALLY good looking dark haired girl. I'm still kicking myself for missing her.[/QUOTE]

Zebra,

Yeah she was kinda slender. Not in a sickly sort of way though. She also looked to be in her early 20's possibly. Id be shocked if she was over 25. I tried to circle around to a spot to pick her up but by the time I got around she was gone. Ive been keeping an eye out for her though and I wont be so slow on the pick up next time hopefully.

Went out for a stroll last night seeing as I was bored and it was pretty much dead. I drove around all the usual spots downtown a bit and swung over to Main and Prairie and even checked up on the North Side and there wasnt anything around except old Uncle Leo. Ended up calling it a night and headed home after I kept running into Leo far too often. May break down and try a chat line tonight.

X

[QUOTE=Stoneman]Agree with dude. No action for me since the holiday. I did see one WSW last week on a side street who disapeared before I could get back to her.

Before the break I did hook up with Kim, WSW 35. Goofy chick to talk to, but did a great suck and swallow. Avg in looks with curly brown hair. Claimed to be a reformed rock star.

I've cruised a lot during the day and it is just really dead. Where do the ho's go for the winter? They still need crack so how do they support the habit if they are not on the street?[/QUOTE]This last winter I was driving up Michigan St. and a WSW was parked in a car and gave me the look. So, in the winter, look into the car windows a bit and see who looks back.

Just a thought, maybe it would be helpful to tell the SWs you meet to place classified ads on this site.

I'm relatively new to this hobby and have only played with asians at the Natural Image spa on C.R.6 in Elk when it was open. Is there an online guide somewhere to hooking up with SWs or do you have some tips for novices?

Caffinecrash,

I came upon this strictly by chance but you can use this as they are great guidelines and you can also check the post I made down a littleways with the link in it (#122).

[QUOTE=Orlando J]1. IS SHE? - It ain't like in the movies -They wear ordinary clothes, and are just walking alone, with no bags, or maybe making a phone call at a pay phone (but if you checked, there's no one on the line). Believe it or not, a girl walking alone and without shopping bags on a hobbyist street is almost always a SW.
*She is walking aimlessly Goes back, forth and circles keep an open eye but becareful if it's too good to be true It does not hurt to check. You might be lucky see next rules

2. If you aren't sure, come back in a few minutes. Non-pros who happen to be walking are going somewhere, which isn't up and down the same stretch of road. And on hobbyist streets, the local women tend to avoid looking like they might be in business, unless they are!

3. If she is watching traffic, she's probably a SW.

4. If she makes eye contact with you, she's probably a SW.

5. If she then smiles at you, she is a SW. After all, you're just some dude driving by.

6. If she's with a "boyfriend", who disappears when you come around again, he's pimping her. Be careful! Don't unlock the door until she's ready to get in, with him nowhere to be seen! If you follow these rules, you're in control of the situation.

7. THE PICKUP - Pull over at the next parking lot, or around the next corner and park nearby. If you're sure she saw you - smile back at her, dummy! - then feel free to pull further down the block, so it's not so easily observed by LE. She'll casually turn down your block, walk past - and then suddenly walk up to see if you're letting her in. Keep eye contact, keep smiling - invite her in.

8. Lock the other doors! You're in a crime-filled neighborhood!

9. AVOIDING LE STINGS - Do not EVER EVER EVER discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING! IT'S LEGAL! Just being a nice guy... On every board I've seen, LE always tries to make the bust without the F LE risking her ass by getting in. READ THIS RULE AGAIN! IT'S IMPORTANT!

* but if the girl is not uncle Leo's daughter and they are using her to bust dr*g dealers p*mps and John along the way just ask where do you wanna go open a conversation, she'll qualify you...

10. This is the perfect time for LE to pull you over for rolling through a stop sign, just to harass your ass. Drive like a preacher! It's an effective way of intimidating hobbyists, and they'll use any opportunity if they're watching.


11. Make a turn or two before discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view - you can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, with a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick - she doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on!

12. AVOIDING SCAMS - If you do a car date, and you let her pick the spot (she'll try to direct you), be aware that she may be setting you up for a robbery. Don't settle for her spot - or at least, force her to come up with a second choice. Her boyfriend can't be in two places at once.
* do not go exactly where they want you
I noticed the girls know this rule The other day, I picked this SW and she told me 1 hotel at first when I did not second her. She told me let's go to a different hotel that she has another room. Most of these girls and their friends or whatever have more than a room. Always be alert. Watch if there are guys watching her room. Your safety is # 1
13. If you go back to a hotel, and she picked it, be aware that this could be a setup for cash & dash, or her pimp busting in & robbing you.
*that applies for incalls

14. If you go back to her place - are you mad? The "boyfriend busting in mad, waving a gun" scam probably happens a lot - since the victims won't report the robbery, they get by with it, even though the victims know where the robbers are staying!
14. Trust your intuition; if you go back to her place. She might be setting you up. A legite professional girl will make you comfortable and relaxed. Lock the room once you are in with her. Ask to go to the restroom so you can check if there’s someone hidding
Personally I think chances anything goes wrong are not high I might be wrong. They are not looking for trouble unless they are stupid. If they scam you; you know where they are and you would cause them enough trouble. Finally, the girl is providing services. That is the difference between a drug dealer and a hooker. A hooker can wash her crack and sell it again.

15. If you go back to your hotel, um, have fun! (OK, that's not a rule. If you go back to your hotel, be discreet so the mgmt doesn't call LE on you.)

16. If you go back to your house - are you really ok with a potentially-addicted SW knowing where you live?
*>95% of American WSW are addicted, if she's not American she might wanna pay bills

17. WALLET - Do not leave your wallet within her reach. If you think you know a clever spot to hide it, remember that 100's of others have thought of it, too. While you're distracted, her free hand can be working...
* if she suddenly starts giving you french lessons all of a sudden then "here's your sign"

18. MONEY - Do not have more in your pocket than you want to spend. She (and your dick) will talk it out of you. If she's really worth an extra few dollars, you can go get it (out of the trunk, the ATM, your other pocket, whatever). Current street rates are 20 for BJ, 40-50 for FS, and you can tip later if you think it's worth it. Remember, it isn't worth it just because you came. She'll always demand a tip, if she thinks it's coming. Many will claim they "usually charge more" - the word on this board is: they don't. But, hey, some of these girls are hard-working, quality-driven providers, even though they're SW (really - I mean it!), and they deserve a break.

19. HUNTING HOURS: They're out at all times, in most weather. I've heard of them walking as early as 4:30am, and well past midnight. They work the lunch hours for guys on lunch, afternoons for guys on early shifts, mornings for guys who'll be late for work, and all through the evening and night. If it's lightly raining, there will be less, but there will be some. Most of these girls are drug addicts; their addiction doesn't have a "M-F, excluding legal holidays" schedule.
*Normally foreign providers work to pay bills. Along that line you can see HSW and foreign providers do not work 24/7

20. CFS!!! Carry a condom. Usually, they don't have one (which I think is so fuc*ing stupid, but then, if they had a clue they wouldn't be SW-ing). You don't want to be tempted to skip the cover because that pussy is so fine.
And the freebie: Every time some SW claims "I'm the best! I'm worth more", it really means, "I'm a lame-ass lying lazy talent less junkie!" The good ones don't have to brag; they'll get your return business.


21. Don't let her use your cellphone. It's a very common request. She'll call her friend, or her own phone, and that will give her access to your # - which might set you up for unexpected & inopportune calls for business or bail money.

22. Be friendly. As has been noted in other threads, these are people with feelings, not just automaton sex dispensers. If you're friendly, chatty, and warm, she'll open up, relax, and probably be more generous with her service, in all the little ways that matter most. Remember, if she's never hooked up with you before, she's worried that you might be either LE, or some psycho SW-stalker.
23. Too good to be true,
* more likely she's LEo. Also I heard LEo has used SW's and Mongers (get us 4-5 guys/girls for arrest and you don't go to jail) to "entice" others into a deal, take her or meet up and the All LEO Party awaits...Better be safe and sorry
Even those would be done in an almost standing position...They would want to keep an eye on their prey.

Don't pick up or try to pick up any chick or chicks that are standing or sitting in one place. I know every one of you will tell me about the beauty you nailed at the bus stop bench, butttt the stings always are from a standing position or a ten yard walk because officer safety is the prime concern. There will be marked cars and a show of force, there are also at least 2 unmarked observers with direct visual contact with the UC officers at all times they will react if the perpertrator runs or the situation gets out of control.
If she is wired; drive around with her discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view - you can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, with a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick - she doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on!
* scams, rip off...etc.
* bait and switch

24. Always do your homework when you buy something do not you shop! Check her reviews

As always Play Safe

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Thanks to all who contributed to this directly or indirectly[/QUOTE]

Dammit! When will I learn? I saw a new face in the north end of downtown around 2nd, 3rd, Lexington, Vistula, 5th, Jefferson and Washington Streets (she was walking all over.) A very pretty black girl, slender, b-cup, great ass, some tats on the arms. Average height, short dark hair and dark eyes. She said her name is Jessica. I'd give a 7.5 on the real girl scale and a solid 9+ on the SW scale.

Anyway, she wanted .6 with half up front and half on completion. I hesitated and she came to .4, but still wanted half up front to "get a pack." She eventually convinced me it would be OK when she said she'd send the older woman that was with her to get the "pack" and we would wait until the woman came back and they'd had a hit. The house we went to was on Jefferson Street between 2nd and 3rd. It was way too conspicuous.

Everything went as she said until the woman returned and they disappeared into a back room. After 7-8 minutes I called and said I needed to get going. She said she was coming right out. After another 7-8 minutes, I felt like she was not coming out and I just bailed. I believe this was their plan all along.

So I now head to the blackboard to write "I will never give a ***** ANY money before we are finished again!" 1000 times. I am glad I was only out .2.

Watch out for Jessica and play careful and safe.

Z

Guys,

Be VERY, VERY careful in Elkhart. I was cruising around noon yesterday and saw a white Ford Taurus UNMARKED except for the antennae bristling from the rear. They had a big SUV (maybe a Yukon) pulled over.

I was following the SUV east on Harrison and two ladies were walking wes on the north sidewalk. I had seen the ladies earlier, but didn't think they were walking until I noted the way they checked out the big SUV. The SUV turned north and went around the block. As I passed the side street he had turned, I noticed the SUV turning west back onto Harrison (which is ONE WAY east) to approach these ladies with his passenger side. I went several more blocks west before making my turn and coming back to see if either of them was left.

Well, there was this unmarked with the SUV pulled over and one EPD talking to each lady while the guy waited. They may have pulled him over for going the wrong way, but it looked a lot like a sting.

About 30 min later, I was passing thru the area again and the same white Taurus and cops was pulled over at the curb talking to two different ladies. One of them was a SW for sure going by "Jo-Jo Dancer." I have dated her before.

Watch your six, drive right and play safe.

Z