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[QUOTE=JayLake;5666699]Also on this subject, there's plenty of reason a provider would decide to change her number. Maybe some nutcase is obsessed with her and she doesn't want them blowing her up all the time. Or any other number of potentially dangerous situations. I def understand wanting consistency but there's reason on both ends in this game to not tie yourself to one recognizable trait like a number.[/QUOTE]Is don't get annoyed over it.
Cheers.
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Here is the truth.
Since we came in San Diego, we brought the best service and great young girls here. We all younger age girls than other massage parlors and provide the best service in San Diego area. We speak great English we succeed and caused threaten to other massage parlors. I believe the cop showed up to our parlor the other day by reported from other Competitor. The good thing is we are all US naturalized citizens and we all have California massage license. Thays why we all good that day. The reason I believe we are reported by competitor, because we received threaten letter which send it out from San Diego post office on 6th which we didn't pay attention to it. And we also get private message from a girl who is working at another massage parlor thought wechat app. Why we give so many services but charge less money than them? She said that's vicious competition. VIP parlor have been here over a year before we took over. They did same business and didn't get any problem about that. Why us? The next day morning after cops showed up our shop, our landlord came to us, he told us that there was a Chinese lady called him that morning, she would like to pay double rent to get our parlor. Our landlord turned her down. Why was she trying to do that? We are not going to give up.
[QUOTE=Lvyo0;5683517]Here is the truth.
Since we came in San Diego, we brought the best service and great young girls here. We all younger age girls than other massage parlors and provide the best service in San Diego area. We speak great English we succeed and caused threaten to other massage parlors. I believe the cop showed up to our parlor the other day by reported from other Competitor. The good thing is we are all US naturalized citizens and we all have California massage license. Thays why we all good that day. The reason I believe we are reported by competitor, because we received threaten letter which send it out from San Diego post office on 6th which we didn't pay attention to it. And we also get private message from a girl who is working at another massage parlor thought wechat app. Why we give so many services but charge less money than them? She said that's vicious competition. VIP parlor have been here over a year before we took over. They did same business and didn't get any problem about that. Why us? The next day morning after cops showed up our shop, our landlord came to us, he told us that there was a Chinese lady called him that morning, she would like to pay double rent to get our parlor. Our landlord turned her down. Why was she trying to do that? We are not going to give up.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that the competition has been giving you a rough time and trying to sabotage your business. =(.
[QUOTE=Lvyo0;5683517]Here is the truth.
Since we came in San Diego, we brought the best service and great young girls here. We all younger age girls than other massage parlors and provide the best service in San Diego area. We speak great English we succeed and caused threaten to other massage parlors. I believe the cop showed up to our parlor the other day by reported from other Competitor. The good thing is we are all US naturalized citizens and we all have California massage license. That's why we all good that day. The reason I believe we are reported by competitor, because we received threaten letter which send it out from San Diego post office on 6th which we didn't pay attention to it. And we also get private message from a girl who is working at another massage parlor thought wechat app. Why we give so many services but charge less money than them? She said that's vicious competition. VIP parlor have been here over a year before we took over. They did same business and didn't get any problem about that. Why us? The next day morning after cops showed up our shop, our landlord came to us, he told us that there was a Chinese lady called him that morning, she would like to pay double rent to get our parlor. Our landlord turned her down. Why was she trying to do that? We are not going to give up.[/QUOTE]Thank you girls, for "not giving up. " Nor will I.
[QUOTE=DragonWolf;5684107]Sorry to hear that the competition has been giving you a rough time and trying to sabotage your business.[/QUOTE]+1.
These other places better watch out! Two can play at this game. & I have a real strong feeling, that VIP isn't going to take this these type of intimidation tactics, lying down.
Who exactly are you threatening?
Watch out for what?
Where are the "other places"?
There's a couple of full-service spas right down the street in the same area, literally blocks away. Do you mean those places?
Or every Spa that's ever been listed on this website?
So are you suggesting that VIP is at war with every other massage parlour in San Diego County? You do know there are hundreds of them right and what exactly are they going to do to every Spa?
It just sounds exactly like stupid shit to make vague threats against " other places".
[QUOTE=AssMan6969;5684127]
These other places better watch out! Two can play at this game. & I have a real strong feeling, that VIP isn't going to take this these type of intimidation tactics, lying down.[/QUOTE]Posted in the right for.
[QUOTE=Lvyo0;5683517]Here is the truth.
Since we came in San Diego, we brought the best service and great young girls here. We all younger age girls than other massage parlors and provide the best service in San Diego area. We speak great English we succeed and caused threaten to other massage parlors. I believe the cop showed up to our parlor the other day by reported from other Competitor. The good thing is we are all US naturalized citizens and we all have California massage license. Thays why we all good that day. The reason I believe we are reported by competitor, because we received threaten letter which send it out from San Diego post office on 6th which we didn't pay attention to it. And we also get private message from a girl who is working at another massage parlor thought wechat app. Why we give so many services but charge less money than them? She said that's vicious competition. VIP parlor have been here over a year before we took over. They did same business and didn't get any problem about that. Why us? The next day morning after cops showed up our shop, our landlord came to us, he told us that there was a Chinese lady called him that morning, she would like to pay double rent to get our parlor. Our landlord turned her down. Why was she trying to do that? We are not going to give up.[/QUOTE]So you posted two times?
[QUOTE=Lvyo0;5683517]Here is the truth.
Since we came in San Diego, we brought the best service and great young girls here. We all younger age girls than other massage parlors and provide the best service in San Diego area. We speak great English we succeed and caused threaten to other massage parlors. I believe the cop showed up to our parlor the other day by reported from other Competitor. The good thing is we are all US naturalized citizens and we all have California massage license. Thays why we all good that day. The reason I believe we are reported by competitor, because we received threaten letter which send it out from San Diego post office on 6th which we didn't pay attention to it. And we also get private message from a girl who is working at another massage parlor thought wechat app. Why we give so many services but charge less money than them? She said that's vicious competition. VIP parlor have been here over a year before we took over. They did same business and didn't get any problem about that. Why us? The next day morning after cops showed up our shop, our landlord came to us, he told us that there was a Chinese lady called him that morning, she would like to pay double rent to get our parlor. Our landlord turned her down. Why was she trying to do that? We are not going to give up.[/QUOTE]Sorry that you all went through that and are still dealing with it. I came in last week to check the place out was greeted by Mina. Wow she was beautiful and so sweet. I was going to make my first visit the day this all went down but had a weird feeling about going and ended up not showing up. Hopefully once things calm down and you open it back up to people who haven't been I'll be able to visit these beautiful ladies.
[QUOTE=Lvyo0;5683517]Here is the truth.
Since we came in San Diego, we brought the best service and great young girls here. We all younger age girls than other massage parlors and provide the best service in San Diego area. We speak great English we succeed and caused threaten to other massage parlors. I believe the cop showed up to our parlor the other day by reported from other Competitor. The good thing is we are all US naturalized citizens and we all have California massage license. Thays why we all good that day. The reason I believe we are reported by competitor, because we received threaten letter which send it out from San Diego post office on 6th which we didn't pay attention to it. And we also get private message from a girl who is working at another massage parlor thought wechat app. Why we give so many services but charge less money than them? She said that's vicious competition. VIP parlor have been here over a year before we took over. They did same business and didn't get any problem about that. Why us? The next day morning after cops showed up our shop, our landlord came to us, he told us that there was a Chinese lady called him that morning, she would like to pay double rent to get our parlor. Our landlord turned her down. Why was she trying to do that? We are not going to give up.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to hear about the threatening letter you received, the random contact from a girl on WeChat, and your competitor (s) being assholes. Please don't give up.
If your competitors want to do better themselves, maybe they should do what your shop is doing and truly bring young and beautiful girls and provide great massage and service instead of bringing GILFs, rush / short customers on time, and false advertising of having young girls then bait and switch customers with grannies.
If competitor shop owners are trying to sabotage VIP I would have real concerns about going to your shop if this is how you conduct business. As a monger I will take my business to an establishment that makes me feel safe, welcomed, provide great service and treat me like I’m the most important customer when I walk-in that door. For me, the name of the spa is not important. Have beautiful girls, provide great service and make me feel safe and you will have me as a client.
[QUOTE=BlueSkyBlue;5684189]Who exactly are you threatening?
Watch out for what?
Where are the "other places"?
There's a couple of full-service spas right down the street in the same area, literally blocks away. Do you mean those places?
Or every Spa that's ever been listed on this website?
So are you suggesting that VIP is at war with every other massage parlour in San Diego County? You do know there are hundreds of them right and what exactly are they going to do to every Spa?.[/QUOTE]Please! There's no need for being this dramatic. This is a fun enjoyable hobby for me. So stretching my word's to fit your subjective narrative, really isn't being helpful.
So with all due respect: I can't answer for what VIP plans to do, or how they would even be able combat these type of jealous, spiteful, people, who have clearly demonstrated, that they're willing to stoop to such a despicable low level. The damage that this person / people have inflicted on VIP, has already been done, & cannot be undone.
But I will tell you this: If somebody were to ever try to sabotage MY BUSINESS (in this same type despicable low-life manner), there would be retribution, if I did in fact find out whom was responsible. My point being: Two can play dirty at the same game, if need be.
[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5684386]Sorry to hear about the threatening letter you received, the random contact from a girl on WeChat, and your competitor (s) being assholes. Please don't give up.
If your competitors want to do better themselves, maybe they should do what your shop is doing and truly bring young and beautiful girls and provide great massage and service instead of bringing GILFs, rush / short customers on time, and false advertising of having young girls then bait and switch customers with grannies.
If competitor shop owners are trying to sabotage VIP I would have real concerns about going to your shop if this is how you conduct business. As a monger I will take my business to an establishment that makes me feel safe, welcomed, provide great service and treat me like Im the most important customer when I walk-in that door. For me, the name of the spa is not important. Have beautiful girls, provide great service and make me feel safe and you will have me as a client.[/QUOTE]I have the utmost respect for you, King! What you posted above, is what I was trying to convey (although I guess I failed miserably at it).
It's funny how you can post something on the internet, & then basically some random anonymous person (username) comes along & read's it. And spins your word's even further away from wrote.
When you read the reviews being posted here, and then you see the jealousy and vindictive level the other's in this line of business are willing to go, to destroy their competition, it's pretty disgusting!
The competition, should literally thanking the AMP's, like VIP & 108, for providing them with a very simple, basic Business Model for them to also follow: When you're in business & you have the best product out there on the market, & it appeals to the consumer; they (the consumer / us hobbyists), plain & simple- are going to buy it!
My advice to the other AMP's (competition) not happy with VIP & 108 monopolizing the customer's out there:
Bring in a higher quality competitive product and people will flock to it / them. We just literally watched this happen right before our very eyes here. When everyone here jumped ship in droves, going from 108/ Eva to get the NEW even better flavor on the month, over at VIP (Lisa Mina & Cici).
So what I was trying to say in my last post, is this: I have a feeling, that VIP, will be smarter (more careful) moving forward. And they're going to be bringing down even hotter girls (if that's at all possible), as a counter attack for what they've suffered. As I've stated, they haven't lost me as a customer, & I'll figure out a way to keep seeing these girls, & in fact, I already have.
Stay safe out there fellow monger's & be smart.
[QUOTE=AssMan6969;5684127]… These other places better watch out! Two can play at this game. & I have a real strong feeling, that VIP isn't going to take this these type of intimidation tactics, lying down.[/QUOTE]No doubt, VIP has some good looking young ladies that know how to please. Not as young as advertised, but beautiful just the same. Their english skills, better than most AMPs, is a huge plus for most of their customers.
Police visits to AMP's are generally prompted by a complaint, usually from locals and some nefarious customers. The rumor is it was locals such as surrounding businesses or nosey neighbors that notified the police of suspicious activity at VIP. The so called warning letter (written in English?) was most likely from a local. Anyone that regularly uses WeChat with the SD AMP scene knows VIP was all the gossip with chatter exactly as Lvyo0 mentioned, but nothing threatening towards them, rather curiosity. Paranoia by VIP similar to the paranoid mongers claiming cameras being planted and cops watching spas everywhere.
The police at VIP was most likely NOT triggered from any competition. Spas may get jealous, but reporting each other to the police is akin to drug dealers ratting on each other. Honor amongst thieves and they would only be raising the heat on each other. Police visits to any spas in the SD area hurts business for all the spas, scaring the faint hearted mongers, with speculation of cameras being planted and police watching spas being naively brought up.
The only cameras to be concerned about are the ones customers sneak in to capture the girls and post online. Yeah, you guys know who you are. The only suspicious vehicles watching the spas are probably other mongers, as I've read so many of you admit to sitting in your cars watching customers coming and going. I do the same and split if too much activity. I'm the one in a black unmarked wearing mirror glasses. JK, ha!
What I find most interesting about this police intervention was the coordination between Spring Valley PD and the Sheriffs department. Also that John's were ticketed as opposed to the girls. Customers are usually ignored with the target being the spa and the girls but I can't say the same for AAMP's. Even though the girls had proper I'd and licenses, they still could have been ticketed for other violations such as improper dress. Full length pants and proper coverage is outlined in most cities massage license guidelines.
As far as their new system is concerned, one of my favorite spas was busted by a "trusted" customer. Apparently he had some other charges against him, so negotiated a deal to lesson the charges by vouching for an undercover cop as a trusted friend. No honor amongst mongers.
All the best to VIP and their girls, but the rumor is they're already looking to relocate. Smart move. In the meantime, I'm mongering on as usual, but most of the AMP's I frequent do have a secure entrance door.
I like the spas with the monitors. Serenity and Smile has a locked foyer and monitors in all the rooms.
[QUOTE=Ryan1979;5685322]No doubt, VIP has some good looking young ladies that know how to please. Not as young as advertised, but beautiful just the same. Their english skills, better than most AMPs, is a huge plus for most of their customers.
Police visits to AMP's are generally prompted by a complaint, usually from locals and some nefarious customers. The rumor is it was locals such as surrounding businesses or nosey neighbors that notified the police of suspicious activity at VIP. The so called warning letter (written in English?) was most likely from a local. Anyone that regularly uses WeChat with the SD AMP scene knows VIP was all the gossip with chatter exactly as Lvyo0 mentioned, but nothing threatening towards them, rather curiosity. Paranoia by VIP similar to the paranoid mongers claiming cameras being planted and cops watching spas everywhere.
The police at VIP was most likely NOT triggered from any competition. Spas may get jealous, but reporting each other to the police is akin to drug dealers ratting on each other. Honor amongst thieves and they would only be raising the heat on each other. Police visits to any spas in the SD area hurts business for all the spas, scaring the faint hearted mongers, with speculation of cameras being planted and police watching spas being naively brought up.
The only cameras to be concerned about are the ones customers sneak in to capture the girls and post online. Yeah, you guys know who you are. The only suspicious vehicles watching the spas are probably other mongers, as I've read so many of you admit to sitting in your cars watching customers coming and going. I do the same and split if too much activity. I'm the one in a black unmarked wearing mirror glasses. JK, ha![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TomCruiseeee;5686202]I like the spas with the monitors. Serenity and Smile has a locked foyer and monitors in all the rooms.[/QUOTE]Must be new with the monitors in the rooms at Smile, there weren't any a couple of months ago.
[QUOTE=TomCruiseeee;5686202]I like the spas with the monitors. Serenity and Smile has a locked foyer and monitors in all the rooms.[/QUOTE]Agree 100%. If you're going to run a full service Spa you need to have cameras and a front door with a deadbolt to at least slow down the entrance if there is a problem. Ocean 108 and VIP literally have no defense because you walk in the front door and you're already looking right at the girls. VIP is even worse because the rooms do not have walls that go all the way to the roof so you can hear every word and every sound from anybody that's in side the shop. These shop owners need to get smart and learn how to provide privacy and security. Spend the extra couple of thousand dollars to avoid lots of trouble.