Rants and Raves plus Stupid Shit

[QUOTE=Raige614;4165071]Why would a guy worth billions of dollars not own or be renting a private place for mongering activities? It's not like he couldn't afford it. With the money he has, he could have easily had a hook come to him at a private location, rather than going to an AMP site to indulge his urges.

Just goes to prove that being "successful" doesn't mean your smart. Common sense is apparently something the rich can't buy! What a friggin idiot![/QUOTE]It's a well known fact several of the world's wealthiest are penny pinchers. That's partially why they have so much- they're notoriously frugal in all of their dealings. This is one transaction where Kraft should have probably spent a bit more to ensure the proper precautions were taken. I bet he's a lousy tipper too!

[QUOTE=Raige614;4165071]Why would a guy worth billions of dollars not own or be renting a private place for mongering activities? It's not like he couldn't afford it. With the money he has, he could have easily had a hook come to him at a private location, rather than going to an AMP site to indulge his urges.

Just goes to prove that being "successful" doesn't mean your smart. Common sense is apparently something the rich can't buy! What a friggin idiot![/QUOTE]A non monger friend of mine were discussing this very thing yesterday. My thought is the same reason that we've seen celebs hit up walkers before, the seediness is part of the thrill for them. It gets them off just as much as the happy ending. That little bit of inherent risk gets the blood pumping.

[QUOTE=Raige614;4161907]There is some information available in the FAQ section that helps new members find information on searching the forums.[/QUOTE]I'll be the first to admit that using "search" is a PITA and not particularly user friendly. It's also only useful if you know exactly what you're looking for. And even then, iterating on it gets quickly irritating with the limit on how soon you can search again. I get why it's there but it's still irritating.

[QUOTE=Raige614;4161907]Also, its no problem for those new to the forums who may not be computer literate to ask "How do I find information on xxx provider. Help is available from many members on how to use the forums for those who might not know how ...Everyone, including me, needs help sometimes. And there is no shame in asking for help when needed....[/QUOTE]Specific requests I generally take no issue with. What does set me off though is the broad "what AMPs give extras or FS?" type posts. Literally all they have to do is read the most recent page or two in the massage forum and they'e got their answer. I find it frustrating to help people who don't at least try to help themselves first. If they do and can't figure it out or can't find what they're looking for, sure. But to not even try to make use of the information others have already put out there just comes off as lazy / entitled at best or uncle LEO at worst.

My 2 cents anyways for what it's worth (which is arguably nothing, LOL).

[QUOTE=Irishbastard;4166491]A non monger friend of mine were discussing this very thing yesterday. My thought is the same reason that we've seen celebs hit up walkers before, the seediness is part of the thrill for them. It gets them off just as much as the happy ending. That little bit of inherent risk gets the blood pumping.[/QUOTE]I can think of a dozen things which provide the same level of risk, thrill, etc without the negative (I. E. Legal) consequences. With his money, he can afford the kind of indulgences not available to the average Joe. Considering his age and the resources available to him, by most people's standards he's probably seen, done and had more than most ever will.

At some point, a certain level of maturity and common sense should play a role in how a person lives their live. At some point, folks have to grow the fuck up. Apparently not the case with this guy.

And like the celebs you mention, he probably believes his influence places him above the law, so he wouldn't have bothered to do a proper risk assessment to determine whether or not the adrenaline rush would be worth the possible consequences. Or, just says "The hell with it, if I get busted I can always buy someone off to get me out of trouble".

Yeah, I know what it's like to be a thrill seeker. When I was too young and dumb to know any better. Then I grew up and discovered:

1-If I have anything at all in my life that matters to me so much that I can't afford to lose it, I'm not risking it for two minutes worth of thrills.

2-There is a big difference between enjoying one's life to the fullest-safely- and throwing all caution to the wind (like a fool) for a thrill.

Ironic, how much criticism is flying around regarding this guy and his life choices...On this board. Any one of us who has ever gone into an AMP is guilty of the same thing, eh? He is just an old man, widowed, probably lonely and god knows with plenty of financial means. All the more reason he would choose an AMP, as it would seem to offer less of a chance of being recognized by a provider and being extorted. Sad. But if it's dumb, than we all are dumb.

[QUOTE=Snood273;4168814]Ironic, how much criticism is flying around regarding this guy and his life choice. On this board. Any one of us who has ever gone into an AMP is guilty of the same thing, eh? He is just an old man, widowed, probably lonely and god knows with financial means. All the more reason he would choose an AMP, as it would seem to offer less of a chance of being recognized by a provider and being extorted. Sad. But if it's dumb, than we all are dumb.[/QUOTE]Hey even former Governor Spitzer got caught eventually.

[QUOTE=Snood273;4168814]Ironic, how much criticism is flying around regarding this guy and his life choice. On this board. Any one of us who has ever gone into an AMP is guilty of the same thing, eh? He is just an old man, widowed, probably lonely and god knows with financial means. All the more reason he would choose an AMP, as it would seem to offer less of a chance of being recognized by a provider and being extorted. Sad. But if it's dumb, than we all are dumb.[/QUOTE]Google Ricki Lander, Kraft's girlfriend.

Does anyone honestly believe that if Kraft read the discussion about him on this forum, he'd be offended by it? I'm willing to bet he wouldn't give a damn. He's probably already gotten more than an earful from those closest to him. And if he's got a lick of sense, I'd also wager that right now he's kicking himself wishing he would have done something differently.

For anyone who is too sensitive over this issue, whose feelings are hurt and takes offense at an open, honest (because honesty IS often harshly critical) adult discussion about this guy, all I can say is-thank goodness for your sake that the discussion isn't about YOU.

If you gather from this discussion that I have absolutely no sympathy for him, guess what? I don't. Why? Simple-he could have handled it better.

[QUOTE=Snood273;4168875]Touch. Point still being, we are all one sting away from being on the perp walk. Glass houses, gentlemen. And for the record, no I am not a patriots fan. LOL.[/QUOTE]There are countless mongers, hobbyists, gamers out there who have been at this for years and have never once crossed paths with LEO. Why? They are extremely careful. Some to the point of paranoia. They may not have his wealth, but what they do have, they are not willing to risk by being careless. Freedom, marriages, jobs, relationships, money, business associations, friendships. All of which could be jeopardized or lost with a public arrest and exposure of one's secret life. No one is throwing stones. A discussion like this is vital to assessing whether or not each of us is doing his own due diligence to stay out there.

[QUOTE=Raige614;4167180]I can think of a dozen things which provide the same level of risk, thrill, etc without the negative (I. E. Legal) consequences. With his money, he can afford the kind of indulgences not available to the average Joe. Considering his age and the resources available to him, by most people's standards he's probably seen, done and had more than most ever will.

At some point, a certain level of maturity and common sense should play a role in how a person lives their live. At some point, folks have to grow the fuck up. Apparently not the case with this guy.

And like the celebs you mention, he probably believes his influence places him above the law, so he wouldn't have bothered to do a proper risk assessment to determine whether or not the adrenaline rush would be worth the possible consequences. Or, just says "The hell with it, if I get busted I can always buy someone off to get me out of trouble".

Yeah, I know what it's like to be a thrill seeker. When I was too young and dumb to know any better. Then I grew up and discovered:

1-If I have anything at all in my life that matters to me so much that I can't afford to lose it, I'm not risking it for two minutes worth of thrills.

2-There is a big difference between enjoying one's life to the fullest-safely- and throwing all caution to the wind (like a fool) for a thrill.[/QUOTE]Bottom line gentlemen, it's risk vs thrill. We all have different tolerance of the balance but there wouldn't be thrill if something else wasn't at risk. To preach to anyone about this is counterproductive and senseless. We all make our own bed, and lay in others.

[QUOTE=Loneli;4169177]Bottom line gentlemen, it's risk vs thrill. We all have different tolerance of the balance but there wouldn't be thrill if something else wasn't at risk. To preach to anyone about this is counterproductive and senseless. We all make our own bed, and lay in others.
[/QUOTE]You may believe it's necessary to risk everything for thrills. Others may agree with you. That's your opinion and you are certainly free to express it. I hope you will respect the rights of others to do the same. But I can promise you that not everyone feels that way. Sex alone might be thrill enough for some-without the risk. Minimizing the risks involved in this hobby is paramount for some of us. Which is why we always stress the importance of exercising Caution for Safety on these boards. You are entitled to your own opinion-as is everyone else who is a member of this forum, until and unless our moderator says otherwise.

Is this right place to discuss about STDs?

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So the list stays as it is. - Dave.

I've been seeing this text appear in ads. "1080;1108;1108;1103; gиg т я1109;1085;" google translate says it's Russian but can't translate it to english. Anyone know anything?

I guess insulting progressive people is condoned on this forum. I guess having different views is verboten, and the use of specious arguments, such as, all politicians are corrupt is celebrated. I guess discussing real solutions like legal prostitution and providing providers health care and vetting for age and psychological stability is a liberal view and thus an effort at expanding our safety and theirs is socialism. The ad was so obviously a sting operation I can only say if you went there you have shite for brains. But, throwing out ridiculous assertions only deters real solutions and creates a sense of obfuscating the truth, legalization is the way forward.