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[QUOTE=GrandRapidsMan;3357665]I don't feel any shame by telling you guys that I just got strongarmed, straight hpzzz.
I made an appointment with this woman earlier, taking great care to explain that if she was not the woman in the photo that I would not be interested, and that I would walk out as soon as the gig was up. She assured me that it was indeed her in the photos, and I even secured an additional photo via text to "prove" that she was indeed the woman in the ad.
We set up the incall appointment for Red Roof Inn (which I have heard bad things about, but ultimately decided to take a chance tonight), and then I arrived shortly after.
As soon as I stepped into the room, I immediately felt uncomfortable. The woman who answered the door was NOT who I had seen in the photos, and another woman emerged from the bathroom as soon as the door closed. It instantly felt like a sketchy situation, and I tried to play it off like "Oh, okay, I wanted to scope out the scene first, but let me run out to my car,. ".
Immedaitely, the burly black chick at the door stepped in front of the exit imposingly, and I tried to play it cool by laughing it off. "Look, nothing has happened," I said, "so just let me out and we can chalk this up to a misunderstanding. ".
The burly chick by the door said, "Oh hell no, sweetie, I got to have my donations. You stepped in my room so you got to pay me. " and blah blah, as she listed off a litany of reasons why I should pay her the agreed upon $150.
Obviously, I protested, and the other woman (who had entered from the bathroom) tried calming the situation by coercing me into bed, saying, "Come here baby, I want to get my pussy ate. " I laughed it off again, but told the woman at the door that she better get out of my way, and I tried reaching around behind her to grab the door handle. She started shouting, "Uh uh, don't fucking touch me, blah blah" and acting as if I was somehow assaulting her. At this point I realized that the other woman on the bed had her camera phone out and was recording me. I kept my composure, talking into the camera to create a video record of the altercation, and the burly chick at the door started talking over me, insisting that I had responded to her backpage ad for sex, and that I had sexually assaulted her and that I refused to leave the room. She tells me that she is about to call the cops, and I insist that she does indeed call them because I am so confident that I have done nothing illegal, and that my word as a young professional with a completely clean criminal history would stand up to these trashy chicks.
So, the burly chick calls my bluff and dials 9-1-1 on HER phone as the other one continues to record me. The burly chick begins to tell the operator that there is a white male in her room who responded to her backpage ad and that he has assaulted her sexually. I try to talk over the woman to tell the dispatcher that I am being held up in a hotel room by two hookers, and I try again to reach behind her to open the door, but she shouts into the phone, "Don't touch me!
At this point I begin to realize the implications of this altercation. I know that with my lawyer and my reputation that I could easily refute these false charges, but at what cost? How much money do I have to pay my lawyer to get me out of some bogus charges? What happens when my gf finds out about this pending legal matter?
The burly chick hangs up the phone and assures me that Kentwood police are on their way. I am still stalwart in my opposition to this con, and I try to reason with her that the police isn't going to be good for either of us. It is at this point that she demands half the original agreed upon price ($75) and she will let me leave. The other chick is still sticking her phone in my face, and I make a split second decision to offer $50 just to end this horrifying nightmare. I weigh the cost of my decision against the time, money, and anguish that would undoubtedly result from any altercation with LE. I decide that $50 is a small price to pay to avoid any unnecessary hassle, and she agrees. I begrudgingly retrieve a fifty dollar bill hidden in my 5th pocket, and I tell her that there is way more money to be made by being honest and forthright with customers. She steps aside and opens the doors and I emerge from the room with my ego bruised, but ultimately I feel like I avoided some larger calamity.
And now I sit in my car, at the McDonalds next to the Red Roof Inn, plotting some kind of revenge.
I realize entirely that I was set up and conned by some scummy, conniving bitches, but I am also at a loss about what to do in such a situation. What would you guys recommend?
Here is the link to these pieces of shit.[/QUOTE]You honestly believed she called the cops? Come on, you were played.
[QUOTE=GrandRapidsMan;3357666][URL]http://grandrapids.back:page.com/WomenSeekMen/come-get-this-kitty-im-back/28952927[/URL][/QUOTE]Interesting, you thought this girl was in Grand Rapids and hiding out in the Red Roof Inn waiting for you to call?
This is Grand Rapids lets be real, I don't need Google to tell me she is using fake pics.
The best way for revenge is to use different number (phone app) to set up appointments.
I think we should blow up the phone of girls that use fake pics everyday.
IMHO.
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Has anybody seen this Natalie? Which one is she?
[QUOTE=Benz1;3357964]Interesting, you thought this girl was in Grand Rapids and hiding out in the Red Roof Inn waiting for you to call?
This is Grand Rapids lets be real, I don't need Google to tell me she is using fake pics.
The best way for revenge is to use different number (phone app) to set up appointments.
I think we should blow up the phone of girls that use fake pics everyday.
IMHO.[/QUOTE]I think there are a few lessons to be learned from the situation described below.
Anything that looks too good to be true IS too good to be true. From my personal opinion if there are super sexy or professional pics, you are going to be played. There are exceptions to this (Brianna or Jennifer Lovin) and they have reviews that can back it up. Taking one for the team (no previous reviews?) with that ad throws up a lot of red flags.
If you feel like you are getting a hot girl for not a lot of cash, you are likely paying not a lot a cash for trash. Girls know what they can commannd. Trashy girls sell it for less and keep guys coming because it's value based shopping / hobbying.
I have never personally been in that situation so I don't know how I would react. No money was exchanged and if you didn't talk about paying for services there is nothing legally binding. But convincing others that can be costly. I suppose if this ever happened to me, I would agree to a price to pass the troll guarding the door and get the hell out. Which leads to the question of how do you get revenge?
Benz brings up the best discrete way to get back. Fake appts using hobby numbers will keep them without business.
Another way that is less direct is to post the link to this site when you see it on BP. You will see various movers do this to continually get the message out and save people $$.
Discretion is king here. If they will hide behind a wall of fake pics, numbers etc, so can the monger community.
Please please please do not do something you will regret to bring justice to someone who deserves a good dose of it. You are out $50. Other posts on the site have gone into detail just how much the woe is me aspect of the provider life can suck from a hobbyist.
Good luck and happy (safe) hunting.
Yes, ultimately, I made the mistake of deciding to settle for the only provider that would respond at 5 am. It's easy for me to recognize the mistakes I made in this situation. I've dabbled in this whole mongering thing a handful of times and never had anything like that occur, I suppose it was bound to happen eventually. I'm not usually one to take risks like that (Red Roof Inn? But I was bored and a little drunk, and isn't that usually when we get into trouble? Lesson (s) learned, certainly. I definitely don't plan on repeating any of the mistakes that landed me in that situation ever again.
I appreciate the feedback from you all, though. This forum is likely the only place I will ever be able to air these grievances.
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;3357775]You honestly believed she called the cops? Come on, you were played.[/QUOTE]HAHAHA I agree, she didn't call the cops. You got played.
[QUOTE=Otto22;3357183]I hobby in many areas of the country and have come to value performance over mere attractiveness. Many, maybe most, providers who are knockouts in the looks department are dead fish or have so many rules that I leave disappointed. Sunny is a good example of a girl who has so much enthusiasm and great performance that I don't care about her baby damage. I agree with Chip that she is more attractive than her photos suggest. Different strokes I guess.[/QUOTE]Every time that I get an enthusiastic, eager, horny and cock hungry provider it beats her looks any time. How many dates have you guys had with a decent looking (good looking even) provider with lackluster skills, performance and an attitude? Tell you what, I'd get my willie wet by someone who WANTS it every time.
Like Otto, I also partake in most places I travel and the same rule is true all over this fine country of ours!
[QUOTE=GrandRapidsMan;3358091]Yes, ultimately, I made the mistake of deciding to settle for the only provider that would respond at 5 am. It's easy for me to recognize the mistakes I made in this situation. I've dabbled in this whole mongering thing a handful of times and never had anything like that occur, I suppose it was bound to happen eventually. I'm not usually one to take risks like that (Red Roof Inn? But I was bored and a little drunk, and isn't that usually when we get into trouble? Lesson (s) learned, certainly. I definitely don't plan on repeating any of the mistakes that landed me in that situation ever again.
I appreciate the feedback from you all, though. This forum is likely the only place I will ever be able to air these grievances.[/QUOTE]I've written about this before. Its not about the RRI, any hotel has the after midnight hags. The good providers won't answer their phones unless they know the number. They believe that all mongers after midnight are drinking and they won't answer.
Get out and play during the day. Establishing a regular relationship with 2 or more will allow you to do your midnight mongering with them.
I had a problem at 3 am many moons ago. Pimp and hooker stopped me in the hallway of motel 6. Saying I stole her money. I sat down on the bench until she found it. They really thought I stole it. When she found it in her purse, she apologized.
No more moon light toftt for me.
[QUOTE=EdMonger;3357747]Anyone seen this lady? Pics look too good.
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Grandrapids. [URL]backpage.com[/URL] is an interactive computer service that enables access by multiple users and should not be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider. *2017 [URL]backpage.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]Pictures are used all over from Las Vegas, Miami, Detroit all with different phone numbers and names. This phone number actually links to an infamous dating site that wants you to sign up. You will never see the woman in the photos.
A great big thanks to Grand Rapids Man for putting himself out there to report this to us. I really appreciate it!
AS for the two 'ladies', well, I can tell you that they didn't call the cops, because the RRI is NOT is Kentwood. That would be the Kent County Sheriff that would respond.
That said, I'm not sure what I would have done in your shoes either. ITs easy for us to 'say' that we would call their bluff, but to be honest, I don't know if I would have.
Glad you're OK and that we can all learn from this!!
[QUOTE=GrandRapidsMan;3357665]I don't feel any shame by telling you guys that I just got strongarmed, straight hpzzz.
I made an appointment with this woman earlier, taking great care to explain that if she was not the woman in the photo that I would not be interested, and that I would walk out as soon as the gig was up. She assured me that it was indeed her in the photos, and I even secured an additional photo via text to "prove" that she was indeed the woman in the ad.
We set up the incall appointment for Red Roof Inn (which I have heard bad things about, but ultimately decided to take a chance tonight), and then I arrived shortly after.
As soon as I stepped into the room, I immediately felt uncomfortable. The woman who answered the door was NOT who I had seen in the photos, and another woman emerged from the bathroom as soon as the door closed. It instantly felt like a sketchy situation, and I tried to play it off like "Oh, okay, I wanted to scope out the scene first, but let me run out to my car,. ".
Immedaitely, the burly black chick at the door stepped in front of the exit imposingly, and I tried to play it cool by laughing it off. "Look, nothing has happened," I said, "so just let me out and we can chalk this up to a misunderstanding. ".
The burly chick by the door said, "Oh hell no, sweetie, I got to have my donations. You stepped in my room so you got to pay me. " and blah blah, as she listed off a litany of reasons why I should pay her the agreed upon $150.
Obviously, I protested, and the other woman (who had entered from the bathroom) tried calming the situation by coercing me into bed, saying, "Come here baby, I want to get my pussy ate. " I laughed it off again, but told the woman at the door that she better get out of my way, and I tried reaching around behind her to grab the door handle. She started shouting, "Uh uh, don't fucking touch me, blah blah" and acting as if I was somehow assaulting her. At this point I realized that the other woman on the bed had her camera phone out and was recording me. I kept my composure, talking into the camera to create a video record of the altercation, and the burly chick at the door started talking over me, insisting that I had responded to her backpage ad for sex, and that I had sexually assaulted her and that I refused to leave the room. She tells me that she is about to call the cops, and I insist that she does indeed call them because I am so confident that I have done nothing illegal, and that my word as a young professional with a completely clean criminal history would stand up to these trashy chicks.
So, the burly chick calls my bluff and dials 9-1-1 on HER phone as the other one continues to record me. The burly chick begins to tell the operator that there is a white male in her room who responded to her backpage ad and that he has assaulted her sexually. I try to talk over the woman to tell the dispatcher that I am being held up in a hotel room by two hookers, and I try again to reach behind her to open the door, but she shouts into the phone, "Don't touch me!
At this point I begin to realize the implications of this altercation. I know that with my lawyer and my reputation that I could easily refute these false charges, but at what cost? How much money do I have to pay my lawyer to get me out of some bogus charges? What happens when my gf finds out about this pending legal matter?
The burly chick hangs up the phone and assures me that Kentwood police are on their way. I am still stalwart in my opposition to this con, and I try to reason with her that the police isn't going to be good for either of us. It is at this point that she demands half the original agreed upon price ($75) and she will let me leave. The other chick is still sticking her phone in my face, and I make a split second decision to offer $50 just to end this horrifying nightmare. I weigh the cost of my decision against the time, money, and anguish that would undoubtedly result from any altercation with LE. I decide that $50 is a small price to pay to avoid any unnecessary hassle, and she agrees. I begrudgingly retrieve a fifty dollar bill hidden in my 5th pocket, and I tell her that there is way more money to be made by being honest and forthright with customers. She steps aside and opens the doors and I emerge from the room with my ego bruised, but ultimately I feel like I avoided some larger calamity.
And now I sit in my car, at the McDonalds next to the Red Roof Inn, plotting some kind of revenge.
I realize entirely that I was set up and conned by some scummy, conniving bitches, but I am also at a loss about what to do in such a situation. What would you guys recommend?
Here is the link to these pieces of shit.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the review.
[QUOTE=TokyoDawson;3356206]Had my first visit with Ashley. Incall is a clean apartment in south side of town, quiet street and off street parking. Was happy with what I saw when she opened the door. Nice face, a little longer than shoulder length hair, trim body with a great rack. Got down to business with light massage, gentle BBBJ that was basically teasing, cfs in several positions. She worked pretty hard at cowgirl. Light kissing, played with the big tits as much as I wanted. I did not last for the $100 half hour. Will repeat.
Pictures and contact info in review #12972.[/QUOTE]
Where is the link, pictures?
[QUOTE=GrandRapidsMan;3357665]I don't feel any shame by telling you guys that I just got strongarmed, straight hpzzz.
I made an appointment with this woman earlier, taking great care to explain that if she was not the woman in the photo that I would not be interested, and that I would walk out as soon as the gig was up. She assured me that it was indeed her in the photos, and I even secured an additional photo via text to "prove" that she was indeed the woman in the ad.
We set up the incall appointment for Red Roof Inn (which I have heard bad things about, but ultimately decided to take a chance tonight), and then I arrived shortly after.
As soon as I stepped into the room, I immediately felt uncomfortable. The woman who answered the door was NOT who I had seen in the photos, and another woman emerged from the bathroom as soon as the door closed. It instantly felt like a sketchy situation, and I tried to play it off like "Oh, okay, I wanted to scope out the scene first, but let me run out to my car,. ".
Immedaitely, the burly black chick at the door stepped in front of the exit imposingly, and I tried to play it cool by laughing it off. "Look, nothing has happened," I said, "so just let me out and we can chalk this up to a misunderstanding. "..[/QUOTE]
I visited Joy yesterday for the 2nd time. $$ for 1 hr. I had a great time again. She is an experienced, competent, mature GFE provider. Exactly what a senior like me wants and needs. Lots of teasing, caressing, and DFK before the main event. Her body is slim and smooth with great natural B cup boobies. To make a GFE date almost seem real both participants need to experience pleasure with each others mind and body. This is what happened for our hour together. Lots of DATY, DATO, BBBJ, and CFS in all positions. She allows me to lead which is exactly what I enjoy doing. She does have a lower back issue, but she knows how to work around it. No CIM, but I think this will happen next time I visit.
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[QUOTE=ExecutiveRich;3358295]Every time that I get an enthusiastic, eager, horny and cock hungry provider it beats her looks any time. How many dates have you guys had with a decent looking (good looking even) provider with lackluster skills, performance and an attitude? Tell you what, I'd get my willie wet by someone who WANTS it every time.
Like Otto, I also partake in most places I travel and the same rule is true all over this fine country of ours![/QUOTE]Of course performance beats looks (to a degree) but when you fine both (and there are such ladies out there) OMG! I look for and seek both qualities and when I find it, it is what keeps me coming (pun) back for more.