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[QUOTE=Likndikit;6761269]I'd guess 30-40% of shops reuse towels if the don't get soaked or stained. They get lazy. I told a girl at Le Palace that if she was going to not change the sheet she should wait until I leave to fold it up. She laughed and said good idea. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]Is the number of guys that are eager to DATY and then BB a gal, not trying to disparage guys, but to me, that's the higher gross out factor.
Pretty and young. Let me know thanks.
Prefer massage, not really into FS.
Happy endings ok.
[QUOTE=Likndikit;6761269]I'd guess 30-40% of shops reuse towels if the don't get soaked or stained. They get lazy. I told a girl at Le Palace that if she was going to not change the sheet she should wait until I leave to fold it up. She laughed and said good idea. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]I know places that iron the towels so they don't have to re-wash! LOL.
Nasty.
[QUOTE=Bonyuri;6761670]Is this the old Lucky Spa in the strip mall next to KFC? Does it have a new name and improved services? If so, please share details. Or is it a different place entirely? Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are two shops just a few doors down from each other. I think the left one is Lucky and right one is P&C. I am not entirely clear if they have same owner or not. Go for the HE, but stay for the BJ, and be delighted by the even more open menu.
[QUOTE=Caribe;6761569]I don't recall P&C being a FS shop. I've always received and heard about it being a HJ shop.[/QUOTE]Lucky and P and C are in the same strip mall. Lily owns both. She used to fire girls for a HJ. It's changed. DarkRoomDaddy is right. Times have changed and so have menus.
Seems to be reopened and called Ivy massage. The number search turns up ads from Joy massage at the same address with "Oc specials".
I went by there to get waxed at the place on the first floor and I noticed a super hot Asian girl going into the upstairs.
Does anybody have first hand info on the new place?
[QUOTE=Likndikit;6762091]Lucky and P and C are in the same strip mall. Lily owns both. She used to fire girls for a HJ. It's changed. DarkRoomDaddy is right. Times have changed and so have menus.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Licked / Dicked. I believe the history of P&C over the years is that it has changed ownership a number of times. It started legit with a big open room, with some tease but no please. Then they built out the wood rooms with doors. And it was a Vietnamese place. There was one really pretty Vietnamese girl with a thin body but giant natural melons who seemed to manage, and she would to HE but no access. Later I did FS one time with a pretty young Vietnamese girl, but this was on the down low, not known to the manager. This was pre-pandemic with house fee of about 30 as I recall. During the pandemic they seemed to change again and upped the price to 50 an hour. I thought about trying it but MMS was a ***** so I bailed. I ended up over there a few times recently, and it seems menus are open more and more. All the ladies are really nice, and some of them don't mention tips or money at all. I would suggest just going for 30 minutes. And you will get full 30 minutes, rather than go to other places and pay for an hour and get 35 minutes and then here is your costco water and hit the road jack. I think they have developed some regulars because I hear them greeting other return-mongers in a very friendly and noisy way. They are not beauty queens, but if you are there for service, attitude, and price, you can't go wrong.
That seems to be a minimum standard, but of course, you can do more.
[QUOTE=CoffeeLake1151;6760588]Thanks! Do you know how much the tip would be for an hour?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Likndikit;6761269]I'd guess 30-40% of shops reuse towels if the don't get soaked or stained. They get lazy. I told a girl at Le Palace that if she was going to not change the sheet she should wait until I leave to fold it up. She laughed and said good idea. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]Honestly it's more like 75-80%. I've mentioned it before, but if you do the math there's just absolutely no way any shop can keep up with the laundry. My legit massage business struggles to keep up and we only wash towels. Our sheets come from a linen service that comes in twice a week to pick up dirty sheets and drop off clean ones. You can only get 6 or 7 sheets in a washing machine at a time. One full cycle in the dryer doesn't usually get them completely dry, and it's a pain in the ass and labor intensive to fold them and put them away, not to mention they usually come out all wrinkly. And that's just sheets. My legit business gets a pile of dirty towels that we almost never get all the way through by the time my staff goes home for the night. Unless these shops have at least 2 washers and dryers running nonstop open to close there's just no way.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/zen_spa_2023/[/URL]
If those pictures are true, it would be so darn hot; and the place would be so crowded with fellow mongers.
Any feedback or visit story would be appreciated.
So 3 thing bois.
1, Elsa is back!
Enough said; what is there more to talk about Nature's top MVP, Elsa? Well, arrive in the morning, already packed as always even tried to schedule ahead, there is always a line for Elsa no doubt. Greeted by a cutie, but I chose Elsa, so I didn't even have a chance to catch her name then eas hurried to the wait behind the cover for about 20 minutes, and finally met Elsa in the room, she sorta remember me, but let's gets to the 2nd.
2, she actually got performance reviewed by owner since my last review and get this, the service is even better than before!
Quick peck on face, about 10 minutes of elbow massage and some prostate tickle and the bios. Saw my tip left on stand come back started with 69, BBBJ. She remember what her customer's preference which it is always a plus. Covered up with MiSh, but either it is her performance got better or I actually made her come on about 10 minutes of Mish. From there k9 was the wet smack sound effect as I pound away until I blew in the cover. Overall, give my experience 9.5 out of 10, because you know of course, it is Elsa! More friendlier and less of the mistress attitude from before. Very much into the GFE this round which I enjoy.
Will come back for sure. And last thing:
3rd: Elsa is back! What are you mongers waiting for?
[QUOTE=Helmette;6762826][URL]https://www.instagram.com/zen_spa_2023/[/URL]
If those pictures are true, it would be so darn hot; and the place would be so crowded with fellow mongers.
Any feedback or visit story would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Looks like the standard marketing pics that all the nuru places post, where the pics aren't the actual girls working there but are what they consider "close representatives" of the girls. Of course the actual girls are almost never half as hot as the marketing pics.
[QUOTE=Faceless1;6762909]So 3 thing bois.
1, Elsa is back!
Enough said; what is there more to talk about Nature's top MVP, Elsa? Well, arrive in the morning, already packed as always even tried to schedule ahead, there is always a line for Elsa no doubt. Greeted by a cutie, but I chose Elsa, so I didn't even have a chance to catch her name then eas hurried to the wait behind the cover for about 20 minutes, and finally met Elsa in the room, she sorta remember me, but let's gets to the 2nd.
2, she actually got performance reviewed by owner since my last review and get this, the service is even better than before!
Quick peck on face, about 10 minutes of elbow massage and some prostate tickle and the bios. Saw my tip left on stand come back started with 69, BBBJ. She remember what her customer's preference which it is always a plus. Covered up with MiSh, but either it is her performance got better or I actually made her come on about 10 minutes of Mish. From there k9 was the wet smack sound effect as I pound away until I blew in the cover. Overall, give my experience 9.5 out of 10, because you know of course, it is Elsa! More friendlier and less of the mistress attitude from before. Very much into the GFE this round which I enjoy.
Will come back for sure. And last thing:
3rd: Elsa is back! What are you mongers waiting for?[/QUOTE]Yo,
Now I am kicking myself. I was going to take an extended lunch and head out there. Never been, but it sounds like I missed out on a total gem.
If I see her I see her.
Samurai.
[QUOTE=Helmette;6762826][URL]https://www.instagram.com/zen_spa_2023/[/URL]
If those pictures are true, it would be so darn hot; and the place would be so crowded with fellow mongers.
Any feedback or visit story would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]You can check some stories on NURU page relates to this shop. I have had overall good experience here. Those are not real pics but close. Tried Venessa, Chole, Ruby, Angel (in order of my preference).
[QUOTE=Pineapples1;6733382]On a positive note, I went to VIP Day Spa a couple times last week in Stanton and this place is phenomenal. All the girls are late 30's-early 40's Viets and give exceptional BJs. . 4 for HH and 1. 2 for BBBJCIM. 1. 8 for FS but I didn't partake in that.[/QUOTE]I can see BJ for. 8 maybe and FS for 140 but 180 is kinda on the step side ain't it? I've seen mongers post 160 and I thought "Oh shit!" Fuck man that ain't inflation type tips for sure.
[QUOTE=Faceless1;6762909]So 3 thing bois.
1, Elsa is back!
Enough said; what is there more to talk about Nature's top MVP, Elsa? Well, arrive in the morning, already packed as always even tried to schedule ahead, there is always a line for Elsa no doubt. Greeted by a cutie, but I chose Elsa, so I didn't even have a chance to catch her name then eas hurried to the wait behind the cover for about 20 minutes, and finally met Elsa in the room, she sorta remember me, but let's gets to the 2nd.
2, she actually got performance reviewed by owner since my last review and get this, the service is even better than before!
Quick peck on face, about 10 minutes of elbow massage and some prostate tickle and the bios. Saw my tip left on stand come back started with 69, BBBJ. She remember what her customer's preference which it is always a plus. Covered up with MiSh, but either it is her performance got better or I actually made her come on about 10 minutes of Mish. From there k9 was the wet smack sound effect as I pound away until I blew in the cover. Overall, give my experience 9.5 out of 10, because you know of course, it is Elsa! More friendlier and less of the mistress attitude from before. Very much into the GFE this round which I enjoy.
Will come back for sure. And last thing:
3rd: Elsa is back! What are you mongers waiting for?[/QUOTE]Is this Elsa from Believe? She was spectacular.
Different Elsa? DFK GFE?
Does anyone know any places that has AA or Filipina ladies?
I don't know if it is the same girl that everyone was talking about here or my standards are just different or maybe mamasan played me and put different girl calling her Elsa. But I did not understand what the hype is about. Went to Nature yesterday, because someone mentioned that she is back. First thing that was off was that she asked for more money. I offered 120 (same that I paid to all other girls there). She started complaining and telling me that this is not enough. I really did not take more with me and parked my car a little far, since there were reports of raids to this place. Later she agreed and started teasing. I tried DT, but she couldn't take it, and started to choke immediately, although guys here were telling she was not choking. I mean overall 3 out of 10. Her kitty wasn't really tight, I don't know if there were too many guys before me or what. But the point is for 120 you can get chicks who would do a really decent massage and bang you like there is no tomorrow in OC. Will they be younger? Probably not. But they would definitely be 7-8 out of 10.
[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6761002]Instead of 50 + 140 (190), you can get the same for 35 + 100 (135) at P&C next to KFC on Mag and Westm (diagonal from SH and Bamboo). Wendy is younger and enthusiastic, but Judy is really man pleaser.[/QUOTE]Are you guys serious? Industry standart for handshake is 40, no one pays more. All AMPs in Westminster charge 40 bucks. They just play you so you pay more. Just refuse tell them you can do only 40 they will agree.
[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;6763646]Are you guys serious? Industry standart for handshake is 40, no one pays more. All AMPs in Westminster charge 40 bucks. They just play you so you pay more. Just refuse tell them you can do only 40 they will agree.[/QUOTE]40 is the pre-covid HJ rate. 60 is the new 40 for HJ.
I guess if you get tittie play with the HJ it's 60?
[QUOTE=ShyBraveOC;6763908]40 is the pre-covid HJ rate. 60 is the new 40 for HJ.
I guess if you get tittie play with the HJ it's 60?[/QUOTE]I normally do 40 if it's strictly HJ. If she allows roaming and makes takes her top off, then I do the 60. Sometimes they ask for more. But I just tell them no. Keep it simple fellas. If they don't want the 40 or 60 then I just enjoy the sometimes good massage. You're not a white knight if you tip them something ridiculous.
[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;6763646]Are you guys serious? Industry standart for handshake is 40, no one pays more. All AMPs in Westminster charge 40 bucks. They just play you so you pay more. Just refuse tell them you can do only 40 they will agree.[/QUOTE]No. It has been 40 since I started hobbying 25 years ago. A raise to 60 is more than fair after all this time. I don't even put down 40 anymore. I always laydown 60 unless the experience was lack luster.
[QUOTE=Reagbaeg;6758424]Bump any update on which Lucky & for Nicole?[/QUOTE]Nicole is at Rainbow Massage. It's on Lincoln Ave. And S. Westchester dr.
[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;6763646]Are you guys serious? Industry standart for handshake is 40, no one pays more. All AMPs in Westminster charge 40 bucks. They just play you so you pay more. Just refuse tell them you can do only 40 they will agree.[/QUOTE]We were talking much more than handshake for those prices.
[QUOTE=SoCalBrownBear;6764075]I normally do 40 if it's strictly HJ. If she allows roaming and makes takes her top off, then I do the 60. Sometimes they ask for more. But I just tell them no. Keep it simple fellas. If they don't want the 40 or 60 then I just enjoy the sometimes good massage. You're not a white knight if you tip them something ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Its like tipping at a restaurant. You can get away with low-balling the tip the first time. But they will likely rememeber you when you come back, and the service will be downgraded to cheapskate level. Ideally tip just enough so that they don't make a note of remembering you in a bad way. If you plan to be a regular, being known as a good tipper may open some doors and unzip some jeans.
[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;6763643]I don't know if it is the same girl that everyone was talking about here or my standards are just different or maybe mamasan played me and put different girl calling her Elsa. But I did not understand what the hype is about. Went to Nature yesterday, because someone mentioned that she is back. First thing that was off was that she asked for more money. I offered 120 (same that I paid to all other girls there). She started complaining and telling me that this is not enough. I really did not take more with me and parked my car a little far, since there were reports of raids to this place. Later she agreed and started teasing. I tried DT, but she couldn't take it, and started to choke immediately, although guys here were telling she was not choking. I mean overall 3 out of 10. Her kitty wasn't really tight, I don't know if there were too many guys before me or what. But the point is for 120 you can get chicks who would do a really decent massage and bang you like there is no tomorrow in OC. Will they be younger? Probably not. But they would definitely be 7-8 out of 10.[/QUOTE]Dang nabbit, sounds like you got Green Goblined. I will definitely pass in that case.
[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;6763643]I don't know if it is the same girl that everyone was talking about here or my standards are just different or maybe mamasan played me and put different girl calling her Elsa. But I did not understand what the hype is about. Went to Nature yesterday, because someone mentioned that she is back. First thing that was off was that she asked for more money. I offered 120 (same that I paid to all other girls there). She started complaining and telling me that this is not enough. I really did not take more with me and parked my car a little far, since there were reports of raids to this place. Later she agreed and started teasing. I tried DT, but she couldn't take it, and started to choke immediately, although guys here were telling she was not choking. I mean overall 3 out of 10. Her kitty wasn't really tight, I don't know if there were too many guys before me or what. But the point is for 120 you can get chicks who would do a really decent massage and bang you like there is no tomorrow in OC. Will they be younger? Probably not. But they would definitely be 7-8 out of 10.[/QUOTE]Did she have a tattoo on her back? She is a small tiny girl, that at least for me she didn't choke when she went DT, and she is fairly tight. She usually doesn't ask for more, but if your usual price at nature is 120, and still expect FS it is a bit low, the going rate there is 160 for that, but maybe you guys have lower price, I prefer not to have to haggle because what's 40 more and get a good time VS the alternative to piss them off and give you a shitty service.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;6762788]Honestly it's more like 75-80%. I've mentioned it before, but if you do the math there's just absolutely no way any shop can keep up with the laundry. My legit massage business struggles to keep up and we only wash towels. Our sheets come from a linen service that comes in twice a week to pick up dirty sheets and drop off clean ones. You can only get 6 or 7 sheets in a washing machine at a time. One full cycle in the dryer doesn't usually get them completely dry, and it's a pain in the ass and labor intensive to fold them and put them away, not to mention they usually come out all wrinkly. And that's just sheets. My legit business gets a pile of dirty towels that we almost never get all the way through by the time my staff goes home for the night. Unless these shops have at least 2 washers and dryers running nonstop open to close there's just no way.[/QUOTE]LOL. Forget the towels. Ever open the door to your room? That door knob's got like 20 DNA shots on it. Don't touch anything but your masseuse! Of course inspe CT the towels for stains and skid marks before you lay down Stark nekkid.
[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6764556]Its like tipping at a restaurant. You can get away with low-balling the tip the first time. But they will likely rememeber you when you come back, and the service will be downgraded to cheapskate level. Ideally tip just enough so that they don't make a note of remembering you in a bad way. If you plan to be a regular, being known as a good tipper may open some doors and unzip some jeans.[/QUOTE]I ditch my wallet in the glove box. Put your door and regular tip $$$ in one front pocket. Then a Jackson in each of your 3 empty pockets, bring a pen maybe for Miss America's digits. You never know when Miss Beijing, Miss Saigon, Miss Bangkok or Miss Souel wants a little more to dance. Happy hunting and good luck!
[QUOTE=Taws6;6761778]Is the number of guys that are eager to DATY and then BB a gal, not trying to disparage guys, but to me, that's the higher gross out factor.[/QUOTE]BB then DATY, gives a whole new meaning to Taco Tuesday.
Migration patterns for this owl changed this year; driving down towards LGB on the daily but it looks like those forums are pretty quiet. Anybody got any leads for that area?
Anyone else got unusually good service here?
For $130 which included the house fee, I was able to get BBBJ, DFK, and a light nuru massage with a hot, petite and silky smooth skin Chinese girl (didn't get her name) dressed in a sexy mini skirt that couldn't be older than 30. Am I in heaven or something????????????
Not sure if it was a YMMV thing but I'm by no means a Brad Pitt nor charming at all. Just very average looking, above-average fitness wise, good hygiene and respectfully straight to the point. I say this because there was one caveat; while I was in the parking lot and playing on my phone for a bit before going in, I noticed a sloppy looking Mexican guy (no offense) that clearly just got off from his blue collar job and he went in and out for no more than 7-8 mins. So not sure what happened there, unless he was the world's fastest 2 pump chump (again, no offense).
Don't care if I blow this place up, I want them to get the business if it means we all get better prices and service. Go capitalism.
[QUOTE=Pineapples1;6764958]Anyone else got unusually good service here?
For $130 which included the house fee, I was able to get BBBJ, DFK, and a light nuru massage with a hot, petite and silky smooth skin Chinese girl (didn't get her name) dressed in a sexy mini skirt that couldn't be older than 30. Am I in heaven or something????????????
Not sure if it was a YMMV thing but I'm by no means a Brad Pitt nor charming at all. Just very average looking, above-average fitness wise, good hygiene and respectfully straight to the point. I say this because there was one caveat; while I was in the parking lot and playing on my phone for a bit before going in, I noticed a sloppy looking Mexican guy (no offense) that clearly just got off from his blue collar job and he went in and out for no more than 7-8 mins. So not sure what happened there, unless he was the world's fastest 2 pump chump (again, no offense).
Don't care if I blow this place up, I want them to get the business if it means we all get better prices and service. Go capitalism.[/QUOTE]Where is this spot at? Can't find a "bird spa" when I do my searches.
[QUOTE=SoCalBrownBear;6765164]Where is this spot at? Can't find a "bird spa" when I do my searches.[/QUOTE]It's bigger than a bird an duck if that helps.
[QUOTE=Pineapples1;6764958]Anyone else got unusually good service here?
For $130 which included the house fee, I was able to get BBBJ, DFK, and a light nuru massage with a hot, petite and silky smooth skin Chinese girl (didn't get her name) dressed in a sexy mini skirt that couldn't be older than 30. Am I in heaven or something????????????
Not sure if it was a YMMV thing but I'm by no means a Brad Pitt nor charming at all. Just very average looking, above-average fitness wise, good hygiene and respectfully straight to the point. I say this because there was one caveat; while I was in the parking lot and playing on my phone for a bit before going in, I noticed a sloppy looking Mexican guy (no offense) that clearly just got off from his blue collar job and he went in and out for no more than 7-8 mins. So not sure what happened there, unless he was the world's fastest 2 pump chump (again, no offense)..[/QUOTE]Are you talking about White Swan.
[QUOTE=SoCalBrownBear;6765164]Where is this spot at? Can't find a "bird spa" when I do my searches.[/QUOTE]I think he's refering to "swan" ("bird").
I heard from some friends that if I wanted to have the best DT and throat fucking experience, then I needed to see Elsa. I guess she has worked in SD, LA, OC, etc. But I haven't seen her before. I live in San Diego, but I went up to Disney for the weekend and took a detour to visit this girl I've heard so much about.
I walk in and immediately start laughing a bit because this spa has an actual reception area with a chair and shit. There's even an appointment book with some fake ass names scribbled on it and I'm just dying inside as I'm waiting for someone to come get me.
Some tan provider with brownish blonde hair opens the door, takes me to room 3, takes my house fee 50 for half hour and I wait for Elsa.
Elsa walks in and she is this perfect little spinner and she is absolutely gorgeous. Maybe like 4'10", large B manmades with large eraser nipples, nice makeup, perfect swimsuit model type body.
LFK and she goes down on my already rock hard cock and puts the entire thing all the way to the back of her mouth and makes a nice popping sounds. Then she says "fuck my mouth baby" and lays on the table. DT fucking her for like 15 minutes and it's like this chick doesn't need air or something LOL. I'm rubbing her pussy, no FIV, and sucking on her nipples as well. I could have just finished like this but I wanted to fuck her too haha.
She flips over for standing mish, rubber on, and I start easing my cock inside her tiny pussy. Here pussy is so small that is almost hurts my dick a little bit initially LOL. Within a couple minutes this girl already has cum just oozing out of her and I have to pull out and wipe my shit off. Normally I'm a quick finish, but it was a slip and slide in there.
She hangs off the table and we start standing doggie and wow this is the perfect way to end. Everything is so tight and her ass is small, but it's toned and it's perfectly sized for her body. Beautiful view from behind as I'm pounding away and within a minute, I fill up the rubber.
They are pretty busy, but she helps me get cleaned up, gets me dressed and grabs me a cold water. I tip her 140 and she seemed happy with it. Man, I wish I could fuck this chick everyday! She is definitely one of my best fucks. I only wish I had the stamina to go with her longer.
[QUOTE=Qeast;6765297]I think he's refering to "swan" ("bird").[/QUOTE]He got me. Hahha my dumbass searching for bird spa. I only got all these bird shops and some bird sanctuaries hahaha.
I tried the haircut place that supposedly provides HE, but I just got a haircut. No sign of any further service post my haircut. Feeling unfullfilled, I head out to the Green Sign to see Tiffany whom a fellow monger raved about. Maybe I picked a wrong day, but there was no breakfast at Tiffany. The line ups were Tina, Kelly, Elsa, and Emmi or Emma. Emma seems to be in her late 40's, Tina in her late 30's or early 40's, Kelly in mid 30's, and Elsa in her late 20's or early 30's (unsure due to her petite figure, She has some sort of tattoo on her left shoulder, and I am not sure if she has any tattoo on her back). I've seen Kelly before (Of course, she didn't remember me, LOL, I am such a memorable guy, right? So I opted for Kelly with fair looking and silky skin and glad I missed out on Elsa, as a haggler turns me off. Kelly gave me light oil massage on my back for about 10 minutes, which was pretty good. On flip, she followed with standard service. Damage were 50 for HH and 140 extra. I spent my entire day's earnings in one day.
[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;6763643]I don't know if it is the same girl that everyone was talking about here or my standards are just different or maybe mamasan played me and put different girl calling her Elsa. But I did not understand what the hype is about. Went to Nature yesterday, because someone mentioned that she is back. First thing that was off was that she asked for more money. I offered 120 (same that I paid to all other girls there). She started complaining and telling me that this is not enough. I really did not take more with me and parked my car a little far, since there were reports of raids to this place. Later she agreed and started teasing. I tried DT, but she couldn't take it, and started to choke immediately, although guys here were telling she was not choking. I mean overall 3 out of 10. Her kitty wasn't really tight, I don't know if there were too many guys before me or what. But the point is for 120 you can get chicks who would do a really decent massage and bang you like there is no tomorrow in OC. Will they be younger? Probably not. But they would definitely be 7-8 out of 10.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SoCalBrownBear;6765414]He got me. Hahha my dumbass searching for bird spa. I only got all these bird shops and some bird sanctuaries hahaha.[/QUOTE]Lmao. Apologies, I thought it's pseudonym was common knowledge around here.