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[QUOTE=Popeyemadison;3845687]This is my usual script:
Incall?
Donations?
GFE?
Lately, the starting quote is $150 hh /$250 h, which is kind of a non-starter for me. I've paid more in the past, but rarely has paying more meant it's better.
So I think I'm going to experiment for a while with stating my offer first:
$120 for a full hour of full GFE.
Of course, even a yes to that doesn't mean anything. But I sidestep having to walk them down off the ledge of something I have no intent of paying.
The strategy is to get to No as quickly as possible. Silence within 5 minutes is also No. I don't actually want to do this. Most of these experiences are far from memorable (memorable in a good way, of course).[/QUOTE]I admire your experience and knowledge, Popeye. It's always good to have alternative negotiating strategies. Lord knows; most of the providers are lousy business people, so it's up to us to "make the market", either by stating what we are willing to pay for specified services or keeping our $$$ in our pockets. And so many of the providers aren't very good at delivering the services agreed to anyways.
I am very skittish about talking $$$ before meeting. I my mind there are too many things that can go wrong. I've had girls do a meet-and-greet just to talk business and even then I'll wait to see if they ask "what do you usually pay? If they ask; my response is "$100 and no time limit". Most of the time they say "OK". If they don't ask; the conversation will come around to that subject and I'll put the offer on the table. I think, by not talking $$$ right away, it puts the provider in the position of having to "sell" the product, rather than the buyer paying a "wanting tax".
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[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;3845733]If your objective is to get to No, why bother asking? I haven't been involved in this hobby as long as you, but these days I can't imagine finding anybody I'd actually want to rub up against willing to go 120 for an hour of GFE. I agree with you that this hobby is an incredible waste of time and money. But spending months shopping unsuccessfully for the unicorn who will say yes to a bargain basement offer and turn out not to be a disgusting, drug-addled disaster seems like an even bigger waste of time.[/QUOTE]Good point. I have no answer to your excellent question.
With most of these girls, when I actually meet them and reflect on all the time I put into it, I feel like a complete idiot. So if I can short-circuit that, that's good. Of course, that doesn't get me closer to finding what I want. As you said, the unicorn is elusive.
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[QUOTE=DieselMike;3845773]I admire your experience and knowledge, Popeye. It's always good to have alternative negotiating strategies. Lord knows; most of the providers are lousy business people, so it's up to us to "make the market", either by stating what we are willing to pay for specified services or keeping our $$$ in our pockets. And so many of the providers aren't very good at delivering the services agreed to anyways.
I am very skittish about talking $$$ before meeting. I my mind there are too many things that can go wrong. I've had girls do a meet-and-greet just to talk business and even then I'll wait to see if they ask "what do you usually pay? If they ask; my response is "$100 and no time limit". Most of the time they say "OK". If they don't ask; the conversation will come around to that subject and I'll put the offer on the table. I think, by not talking $$$ right away, it puts the provider in the position of having to "sell" the product, rather than the buyer paying a "wanting tax".[/QUOTE]The best way I can imagine to demonstrate wisdom would be to quit this nonsense. LOL. In the meantime, here I am at the bottom of the barrel. Finding nothing worth scraping.
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Lacey
Lacey is back:
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/blondes-do-it-better/260149898378[/URL]
Note: Not to be confused with Laceyy (two why's):
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/laceyy-the-best-in-the-midwes/374637896884[/URL]
I saw Lacey once maybe 5 years ago. She was using the same pics then as she is now. Very nice body. I think the hair is a wig. At least, I think it was then. I got all the way to just outside her hotel. And just kept on driving. I'd gotten her down to $150 for a full hour of GFE earlier in the day. And then, because of course she completely forgot, I got her separately down to $120 for a half hour. She said full service, kissing, and oral on her maybe. I asked why the maybe. Then she said, Yes.
The quick Yes communicates almost the same message as the Silence That Means No.
That's what I was thinking anyway. And rather than suppress my doubt, I let it help me bail at the last minute. She called. I didn't bother answering or returning her call or text. Which is rude. Oh well.
I'm curious if anyone else has seen her recently. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Jane Dusk
Anyone see Jane lately? Can't seem to find her contact or ads anymore.
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[QUOTE=BigEmz00;3846003]Anyone see Jane lately? Can't seem to find her contact or ads anymore.[/QUOTE][URL]https://liveescortreviews.com/search?search=jane&city=madison[/URL]
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Thank you sir.
[QUOTE=Popeyemadison;3846011][URL]https://liveescortreviews.com/search?search=jane&city=madison[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you sir, she's been hard to contact as of late. Same with miss kay.
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Violet
Got an appointment finally with Violet from GC tomorrow away from GC. And was wondering if she offers a true GFE session when away from GC.
P M me with any info.
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[QUOTE=DanBoone;3845189]Look at her ankle in the last picture.[/QUOTE]Somebody is sure observant I would of never noticed that!
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Jane
[QUOTE=BigEmz00;3846003]Anyone see Jane lately? Can't seem to find her contact or ads anymore.[/QUOTE]She's still around. Just texted her. I can provide ph # in PM request.
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Lacey
[QUOTE=Popeyemadison;3845987]Lacey is back:
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/blondes-do-it-better/260149898378[/URL]
Note: Not to be confused with Laceyy (two why's):
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/laceyy-the-best-in-the-midwes/374637896884[/URL]
I saw Lacey once maybe 5 years ago. She was using the same pics then as she is now. Very nice body. I think the hair is a wig. At least, I think it was then. I got all the way to just outside her hotel. And just kept on driving. I'd gotten her down to $150 for a full hour of GFE earlier in the day. And then, because of course she completely forgot, I got her separately down to $120 for a half hour. She said full service, kissing, and oral on her maybe. I asked why the maybe. Then she said, Yes.
The quick Yes communicates almost the same message as the Silence That Means No.
That's what I was thinking anyway. And rather than suppress my doubt, I let it help me bail at the last minute. She called. I didn't bother answering or returning her call or text. Which is rude. Oh well.
I'm curious if anyone else has seen her recently. Maybe I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]That's Lacey with the wig, I saw her a couple of times by the casino at least two years ago. Great spinner body, GFE. Was always hard to connect. But a good time'.
GS.
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Unicorn?
[QUOTE=Popeyemadison;3845851]Good point. I have no answer to your excellent question.
With most of these girls, when I actually meet them and reflect on all the time I put into it, I feel like a complete idiot. So if I can short-circuit that, that's good. Of course, that doesn't get me closer to finding what I want. As you said, the unicorn is elusive.[/QUOTE]You guys are looking for a unicorn?
I'm here trying to find something that is a little more than a one trick pony!
Girls are either good looking / tight body, overly priced but performance of a 15 yo virgin.
Or flabby / old / dinged lady that will do anything for some $ (and are also overpriced.).
Popeye, I get your point of paying high for less than memorable sessions (mostly with the good looking ones in hope they will put some effort into it.). But I tell you I'm willing to spend more than the average if you can direct me to a provider that is somewhat young / tight, does this job with some passion, and a bonus if does Greek.
And BTW, had anyone met this one:
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/cauasian_w/kendall-baby-barbie-doll/899157427430[/URL]
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Violet
Seeing Violet from GC outside of GC. Is she GFE at all?
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Violet
[QUOTE=Reddog60;3846228]Seeing Violet from GC outside of GC. Is she GFE at all?[/QUOTE]Can you PM me her phone number?
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[QUOTE=YellowFever82;3846205]You guys are looking for a unicorn?
I'm here trying to find something that is a little more than a one trick pony!
Girls are either good looking / tight body, overly priced but performance of a 15 yo virgin.
Or flabby / old / dinged lady that will do anything for some $ (and are also overpriced.).
Popeye, I get your point of paying high for less than memorable sessions (mostly with the good looking ones in hope they will put some effort into it.). But I tell you I'm willing to spend more than the average if you can direct me to a provider that is somewhat young / tight, does this job with some passion, and a bonus if does Greek.
And BTW, had anyone met this one:
[URL]http://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/cauasian_w/kendall-baby-barbie-doll/899157427430[/URL][/QUOTE]That's Kendall. I contemplate repeating. Mostly because she gets into it and if you ask just right the price is good ($100 hh). But hygiene is just awful. I think she's super high volume. I hope to god I'm not desperate enough to actually go through with repeating.