Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Tryon]Just for information. The standard split on the asian AMP door fee:

Girl get $10 on the $60 1/2 hr & $20 on the $80 hr.[/QUOTE]It's not like we are using a proportionate scale as is applied in most service industries which is typically 15% of the cost of the product or service. Nor do you consider the minimum wage your waitress at Denny's is earning when it comes time to tip her. What a massuse get's from the door fee is not our business. If we considerd scale, we'd be leaving $9 to $15 based on 60 and 80. If we are being asked to consider thier end of the door fee, what standard of living are you attempting to fund for them? Where are the limits? This makes no sense.

So we are left to our own devices. In this case we are arbitrarily tipping based on the effort and quality of the services. Imagine if no HE was provided. Would you not tip at all? I for one have always tipped my massuse in a legit place and it has always been based on 15% of the cost at the door.

So I consider only the effort and quality when I go to RB and Lilly's and Spa74 etc. Regardless of the amount of time I bought, because the amount of time spent on the HE is almost always the same either way. A standard HE like I get at Lillys with a decent massage deserves no more than a single Jackson. Even Suzie only gets 1 Jackson from me because she has always demonstrated early to achieve limits after the flip. But Monica has generous and demonstrated a more libral approach. Albeit I will not submit her name for cannonization as others here would, I do leave her with 2 Jacksons and she is always happy with me.

Lastly, I don't think that this discussion has any influence on the market rates in CLT and definitely will not change a thing in that regard. But I hope it gives us all some food for thought.

Just my. 02

Just got back from a trip to the Rainbow and had a terrible experience! First off I have been there 4 times in the past and always had a great experience however tonight was terrible! My provider was a cute spinner with long black hair but she wouldn't tell me her name said to call her Chocloate. I asked for Monica or Kara but she sais they weren't there. I should have realized it was not going to be a good experience when during the T/S she refused to wash betweeen my legs. The massage was good but she kept asking me questions during it, maybe she thought I was LE. After she finished massaging my back she started giving me light strokes and I thought she was going to ask me to turn over, but she said you can use your own hand. I told her I could do that at home, but she said she wasnt allowed to touch my privates. I told her I wasn't going to leave her a tip then, she started to argue with me so I got pissed and got up and left. Don't know whats going on there but I won't go back again!

I appreciate the different points of view. Don't think the variations discussed will skew the market but must add that amps are not like restaurents or barbershops, tho at CT spa you can get a massage etc on the right and a haircut on the left. Please remember guys this is your recreational dollar. Rather give it to the wife?

[QUOTE=Wando21]I appreciate the different points of view. Don't think the variations discussed will skew the market but must add that amps are not like restaurents or barbershops, tho at CT spa you can get a massage etc on the right and a haircut on the left. Please remember guys this is your recreational dollar. Rather give it to the wife?[/QUOTE]

I already give too much to the wife with nothing to show for it. That is probably true for most of us!

The answer to your question is the same as the answer to my question.

[QUOTE=Hondo17]Just got back from a trip to the Rainbow and had a terrible experience! First off I have been there 4 times in the past and always had a great experience however tonight was terrible! My provider was a cute spinner with long black hair but she wouldn't tell me her name said to call her Chocloate. I asked for Monica or Kara but she sais they weren't there. I should have realized it was not going to be a good experience when during the T/S she refused to wash betweeen my legs. The massage was good but she kept asking me questions during it, maybe she thought I was LE. After she finished massaging my back she started giving me light strokes and I thought she was going to ask me to turn over, but she said you can use your own hand. I told her I could do that at home, but she said she wasnt allowed to touch my privates. I told her I wasn't going to leave her a tip then, she started to argue with me so I got pissed and got up and left. Don't know whats going on there but I won't go back again![/QUOTE]


My advice is to let them know immediately if you've had sub par service. They actually care and want you to come back unlike the minor leaguers at Woodlawn and Midori.
There was a spa I use to frequent in Atlanta. My attendant pretty much ignored me. Left me alone for nearly twenty minutes after the TS. I was spitting nails. I talked to the girl running the place, Sunny. We'd known each other at another spa. Told her I was gonna leave. Sunny took over and salvaged the visit. Never saw the girl who ignored me again.
Another time I had a so so visit with a new girl. On my next visit, I had a her again. Wanted to switch out and the mamasan talked to the girl and straightened things out. Turned out to be one of the best sessions I ever had at the place.
Also, I find it helps to call ahead and ask for your favorite girl before showing up. If you don't call, your favorite might be busy, you can still salvage your visit by asking to see her. She can vouch for you with the new girl. That keeps you from having to wash your privates during the TS. Hope this helps guys.

Thanks Sgt I would have but I never did see the mamsan it was just my attendant and I think one other younger girl. I definitely told my attendant I was not pleased but that didn't change her attitude even when I told her I was giving her a tip.

[QUOTE=Sgt Steel]My advice is to let them know immediately if you've had sub par service. They actually care and want you to come back unlike the minor leaguers at Woodlawn and Midori.

There was a spa I use to frequent in Atlanta. My attendant pretty much ignored me. Left me alone for nearly twenty minutes after the TS. I was spitting nails. I talked to the girl running the place, Sunny. We'd known each other at another spa. Told her I was going to leave. Sunny took over and salvaged the visit. Never saw the girl who ignored me again.

Another time I had a so so visit with a new girl. On my next visit, I had a her again. Wanted to switch out and the mamasan talked to the girl and straightened things out. Turned out to be one of the best sessions I ever had at the place.

Also, I find it helps to call ahead and ask for your favorite girl before showing up. If you don't call, your favorite might be busy, you can still salvage your visit by asking to see her. She can vouch for you with the new girl. That keeps you from having to wash your privates during the TS. Hope this helps guys.[/QUOTE]

Heads up.

Thank you and goodnite

[QUOTE=Hondo17]Thanks Sgt I would have but I never did see the mamsan it was just my attendant and I think one other younger girl. I definitely told my attendant I was not pleased but that didn't change her attitude even when I told her I was giving her a tip.[/QUOTE]

Visited Rainbow after work on Saturday night. Had an hour and fifteen minutes with Susie. She left several times during my time to answer the door, apologizing each time. Found out that Monica and Kara were on vacation. I'd called last week and heard the same about Ruby. Only Susie and Sunny were working when I was there. With them being short staffed (no pun intended), You might have got a substitute from another spa. She might have been suspicious. I know they brought in Mink to help out a couple months back when Monica and Susie were both on vacation. Hopefully things well get back to normal once the other girls get back.

Normally, when a spa girl is said to be "on bacation", it means she is gone. They tell you that to keep you coming back. They know that you will continue to do so, in the hopes that your atf provider will show up again. In the meantime, you'll eventually find another one you like.

These people are nothing if not superb business people.

LexLuther

[QUOTE=LexLuther]Normally, when a spa girl is said to be "on bacation", it means she is gone. They tell you that to keep you coming back. They know that you will continue to do so, in the hopes that your atf provider will show up again. In the meantime, you'll eventually find another one you like.

These people are nothing if not superb business people.

LexLuther[/QUOTE]Depends on the girl/place.

FOr Monica @Bow she IS actually on vacation up in Viriginia.

Come back on Thursday and see.

Visited with one of my new atf's and heard that a fellow monger told her her name appeared on the internet here. Now fellas this helps no one. She's pissed and wary. When we make reports here we do not expect some dumb monger to blab it to the provider. Unless you want all info to pass solely by pm among senior members, can the chit chat about this forum to providers. If they happen to be computer literate so be it but that is rare

[QUOTE=Sam Weller]Depends on the girl/place.

FOr Monica @Bow she IS actually on vacation up in Viriginia.

Come back on Thursday and see.[/QUOTE]

I completely agree. I've been going to these places for over twenty years. Rainbow breaks the mould. A couple of months back, both Monica and Susie were on vacation and I saw Mink who used to work there. She told me the day when each was returning.
When I used to live in Atlanta, the "bacation" was epidemic. You'd have a great session with a girl, come back the next time and to paraphrase Dean Wormer in Animal House, she'd be outta there like shit through a goose!
I am well aware of the old bait and switch most of these places operate on. In Atlanta and Philly they were FS and they always had new talent coming in and the good outweighed the bad.

[QUOTE=Wando21]Visited with one of my new atf's and heard that a fellow monger told her her name appeared on the internet here. Now fellas this helps no one. She's pissed and wary. When we make reports here we do not expect some dumb monger to blab it to the provider. Unless you want all info to pass solely by pm among senior members, can the chit chat about this forum to providers. If they happen to be computer literate so be it but that is rare[/QUOTE]

I agree, I dont think they all get mad but better safe than sorry, many of these girls automatically think once they are on the internet they will not only be targets for new clients but for Uncle Leo as well. But Monica for example I dont think she minds cause the first time I saw her I said she had been recommended by "my coworker Tony" but she kept asking me "you sure you didn't see me on internet" but not like it was a bad thing, (she even asked well after she had "crossed the line" so to speak) I think she just knows she is getting good pub from here and doesn't seem to mind. HOWEVER like I said not all girls feel this way (I would bet most do not) So telling them you saw them on the internet rally cant do any good and has the potential to screw up not only your visit but the guys that come after you as well.

[QUOTE=ConcordGuy]. I think she just knows she is getting good pub from here and doesn't seem to mind. HOWEVER like I said not all girls feel this way (I would bet most do not) So telling them you saw them on the internet rally can't do any good and has the potential to screw up not only your visit but the guys that come after you as well.[/QUOTE]I would venture to guess that they don't mind the notoriety until they get hauled in for the first time. Then they probably get a lot more cautious and defensive about who is talking about them and where. Take MMS at Lilly's for example. First thing she asks you on your first visit, "How you know about this place? " Heck., she advertises in the Sunday Observer for cryin out loud! But she doesn't like people talking.

Does anyone know a good spot to get some extra beyond just a rub and tug? Maybe some playing (inside the kitty area) and a BJ? Fully nude massage. Mutual?

I've been to Spa 74 twice now to see Amy. She is a little bit older (40's?), but has a smoking body. Both times she has been very nice, good service, never complains about money. I walked into the massage room where you get undressed completley, Amy came back with a towel to wrap around myself. First you sit in the suana for awhile, then you head to the T/S which is very nice. She washed my body with this washcloth like "glove" and on the flip she looked at me asking if I wanted my johnson washed, I nodded yes. After the relaxing wash she dried me off good and gave me a little tug with the towel. I sat in the dry steam room for a bit then she came and brought me to the massage room. The massage was very nice. On the flip she paid attention to my special area. She let me play around her kitty area, but definitely not in. Additionally she was willing to lift up her shirt for me to see and fondler her very nice breasts (I would say B/C cup) very nicely shaped. Happy ending was excellent, but had hoped for a little more. All in all solid experience. I would go back.