General Reports

It sounds like y'all are pulling in some really good quality but when you take a step back you realize that you're on file with the girls and with a website database. There's no mutual destruction security if they decide to share your information with others or use it to blackmail you.

Plus seen too many websites hacked and profiles leaked to put privacy and life at risk, and always. Never trust 304's with your info if all they give you is a first name and it's never a real one. Never going to tell somebody how to play with fire but no hate when pointing out the risks.

[QUOTE=Vick1957;6104648]I think you can still go on p411 and scope out ladies. You have to be a paid member before you can view their menu. Anyways make an appt, behave like a gent, and ask her that you want to become ap411 member, would you please vouch? I think that's how it works. Worked for me over 7 years ago.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GAGuy2020;6104990]It sounds like y'all are pulling in some really good quality but when you take a step back you realize that you're on file with the girls and with a website database. There's no mutual destruction security if they decide to share your information with others or use it to blackmail you.

Plus seen too many websites hacked and profiles leaked to put privacy and life at risk, and always. Never trust 304's with your info if all they give you is a first name and it's never a real one. Never going to tell somebody how to play with fire but no hate when pointing out the risks.[/QUOTE]You can send in a fictitious name as long as you send it in with a Money order! I don't work and have no family. So if someone tries to blackmail me they will have ZERO Leverage. A few friends know about my 3rd life (We All Lead 3 Lives; 2 of them in secret), And I am sure others may suspect! I don't care. It is my business and that's it!

[QUOTE=GAGuy2020;6104990]Never trust 304's with your info if all they give you is a first name and it's never a real one.[/QUOTE]I know the real names of a couple of girls, but I don't know why you would think that would be any protection. Maybe if she's trying to hide her source of income from everyone who knows her, but when a girl's got a frequent guest card at the Greybar Hotel, "I'll tell your mama what you really do" is probably not going to carry much leverage.

Am I the only one who sees Facebook do that recommended friend thing for working girls? Last week it gave me 2 of them that I routinely see on STG ads. I actually like that sort of independent verification that they are real. But I don't completely get why the face recognition works like it does.

[QUOTE=RateGuy9;6156219]Am I the only one who sees Facebook do that recommended friend thing for working girls? Last week it gave me 2 of them that I routinely see on STG ads. I actually like that sort of independent verification that they are real. But I don't completely get why the face recognition works like it does.[/QUOTE]You realize that it's also showing them your real identity too? I had a buddy just go to Germany with his wife & 93 year old uncle.

I got two unsolicited posts with all three of them at Octoberfest. I'm not FB friends with any of them.

Scary shit for mongers & Sugar Daddies.

You should always be giving them a fake name no matter what. The problem is when you send him a picture of your I'd that has your name on it or if you send them a photo that can easily be Google searched and tracked back down to you. If you use your real phone number and not a burner an easy search will pull up your real name identity and address. Just keep in mind these girls are keeping databases on you guys.

[QUOTE=Vick1957;6105039]You can send in a fictitious name as long as you send it in with a Money order! I don't work and have no family. So if someone tries to blackmail me they will have ZERO Leverage. A few friends know about my 3rd life (We All Lead 3 Lives; 2 of them in secret), And I am sure others may suspect! I don't care. It is my business and that's it![/QUOTE]

That's an indication that you possibly need to compartmentalize what you do on your phone, or use a separate phone for the hobby. Facebook is HIGHLY invasive and will read data out of all of your core apps and anything you link in or out of it, including your contacts and messages. It will also associate users via location services whenever possible. I've had it do that with colleagues that I was otherwise unconnected with.

[QUOTE=RateGuy9;6156219]Am I the only one who sees Facebook do that recommended friend thing for working girls? Last week it gave me 2 of them that I routinely see on STG ads. I actually like that sort of independent verification that they are real. But I don't completely get why the face recognition works like it does.[/QUOTE]

Facebook absolutely reads the numbers you've called, especially if you put them in your contacts, even briefly.

I can't tell you how many "do you know?" I've gotten from people I've called or had in my contacts, even if there were zero connecting friends.

Insta, Snapchat and Kik will do the same.

All for burners and digital numbers but started to notice something strange. Girls sharing the same number in ads and not being an agency and not together.

After talking to the guy pretending to be the girl (translator, pimp, handler), he drops off then the real girl drops in. Same number and same chat but another person starts talking without history of previous chats like you are transferred. Strange!

[QUOTE=JonnyRockett;6104009]That's the mistake I made with my first P411 account. I still believe that's where my personal information was leaked to a provider. I have ways around that now so I'm not worried. But, the credit card I can't fake. I just remember how easy it was to get verified to see a provider. And the selection of smoking hot girls is 2nd to none. I miss both of those aspects of being a member. I've been reading a lot of recent reviews of P411 and some are pretty bad. Some have paid the fee and then we're denied membership and got no refund. They paid $90 just to be told "No". Some have been waiting months to be verified and have been told until they can get two P411 girls to vouch for them, they can't approve their membership. So, how does one get two P411 girls to validate them if they can't even see a P411 girl without a membership? Am I the only one thinking this makes no sense. Lastly, some guys have had their membership terminated with no refund because they left a bad review for a provider and P411 sided with the girl. Is the only way to maintain a membership to leave nothing but flowery and overinflated reviews?[/QUOTE]I have never had an issue with P411 leaking info. And providers don't have access to your information. The system was ran by a provider turned administrator, but she sold the company and the new ownership runs it much the same. Once I contacted a lady from P411 and tried to set something up and she was playing bs games, I reported her they (P411) flagged and took down her profile. Another time a I set up with a provider via P411 and she flaked on me, P411 sided with me on both occasions. Over the course of my years working with them I have only had 2 or 3 ladies want more info in addition to P411, so I just moved on from them. In reference to getting a P411 girl to validate you, just ask the lady if she has P411 and is wiling to vouch for you once you see her. Also, P411 is not a review site, so I don't see how they would terminate your membership over a bad review. TER is the review site, and yes the two go hand in hand, but about a year ago I contacted a higher end lady and set up a session via P411, and then gave her a bad review on TER. She then contacted me on P411 through the private messages but I told her straight up, for what I paid, I expected more and the review I wrote her on TER would not be coming down. So no, you don't have to leave favorable reviews on other sites for P411 to maintain your membership, again they are not a review site, they only assist in the validation of you as client and that you are safe to schedule with.

[QUOTE=RateGuy9;6156219]Am I the only one who sees Facebook do that recommended friend thing for working girls? Last week it gave me 2 of them that I routinely see on STG ads. I actually like that sort of independent verification that they are real. But I don't completely get why the face recognition works like it does.[/QUOTE]You do realize that they are also getting your real FB as a "suggested friend".

No Bueno for married mongers or those with SOs.

Years ago you could search people on FB with a cell number. I actually got blackmailed that way. A providers BF supposedly found out she was selling herself on Backpage. Whether she was part of the shakedown, I wasn't going to argue. Especially when he started reading off all my family, friends & even coworkers in my friend list!

$500! Luckily it was a one and done. I was sure it would be the start of a regular shakedown.

Burners guys! Protect yourself! Single or not, use a fake number or burner phone. Most these hoes tell you not to but they can't tell or don't care. They give you a fake name and have fake phones too. You are entitled to and should for your safety! No real names, avoid screen names that link back here, no real emails, no real numbers!

Her safety does not trump yours! Giving her all your verification info does not make her safer. Have even given girls fake photos and still met without issue. LOL! Protect yourself don't give her or websites your info.

I've never been blackmailed before or the site is safe or the girl is nice means nothing. Few years ago people's info got out on adult cheating sites and it was safe until the hack. Plenty of girls meet without putting your life at risk and don't feel bad telling them NO!

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;6205572]You do realize that they are also getting your real FB as a "suggested friend".

No Bueno for married mongers or those with SOs.

Years ago you could search people on FB with a cell number. I actually got blackmailed that way. A providers BF supposedly found out she was selling herself on Backpage. Whether she was part of the shakedown, I wasn't going to argue. Especially when he started reading off all my family, friends & even coworkers in my friend list!

$500! Luckily it was a one and done. I was sure it would be the start of a regular shakedown.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GAGuy2020;6206467]Burners guys! Protect yourself! Single or not, use a fake number or burner phone. Most these hoes tell you not to but they can't tell or don't care. They give you a fake name and have fake phones too. You are entitled to and should for your safety! No real names, avoid screen names that link back here, no real emails, no real numbers!

Her safety does not trump yours! Giving her all your verification info does not make her safer. Have even given girls fake photos and still met without issue. LOL! Protect yourself don't give her or websites your info.

I've never been blackmailed before or the site is safe or the girl is nice means nothing. Few years ago people's info got out on adult cheating sites and it was safe until the hack. Plenty of girls meet without putting your life at risk and don't feel bad telling them NO![/QUOTE]That was Ashley Madison, the site for married people to have affairs. Untold marriages broken up, multi millions in divorce settlements.

I got blackmailed in 2018, by then I had a Sugar Baby that got me to use Google Voice in 2016, to text each other & send pics. The problem was the BF saw my old texts from prior to that. She had a fake name for me, but he put my real cell in Facebook & I was so screwed. Still $500 was a bargain to not get outed!

What the hell is this? Seen it twice now. If there really is a long wait list to get ads on stg then who is posting this? [URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/portsmouth/female-escorts/black_caribbean/aids-manslaughter-/687991262891[/URL].

[QUOTE=RateGuy9;6324434]What the hell is this? Seen it twice now. If there really is a long wait list to get ads on stg then who is posting this? [URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/portsmouth/female-escorts/black_caribbean/aids-manslaughter-/687991262891[/URL].[/QUOTE]Whoever posted the ad has been posting these for a number of years. It's not new, but it recently changed to the one you are referencing. I'm assuming some disgruntled monger or ex or something like that. Can't comment on the validity of the ad, but I've stayed away regardless.