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Fantasy massage
Ok so I been having some bad luck lately with all this AMPs so I decide to give it another shot maybe luck was on my side this time. And alittle jagermeister helps too anyway back to the massage I when to this place first of all let me tell you guys this place smell like sweatie midget ass, I was greeted by jenny or jennifer don't remeber medium build asian plain look the kind of girl that you only will hit after a 6 pack of Heineken you know what saying heheh. Anyway so we start to talk and I was shock she speak perfect english I was wow I'm in love we start talking about what an ass Glenn Beck is and I was suprises to hear that her favorite show was Mad Money with Jim Cramer I was in love with this girl I was so happy, finally baby jesus was looking out for me.
So here come the flip and we start the negotiation, all of the suden she didn't speak a word of english I'm like whats goin on we were just talking about how much you hated Glenn Beck and now you don't speak english. So I get up and leave I pay $65 for one hour massage and she wanted for what I undertand $80 for HJ. Then she say $60 then I say $40 she look at me and say ok. But I was mad and I say no way thats still too much "I'm cheap like that" she look at me with a suprise face, so I walk out with my feelings hurt I'm not goin back to that place.
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My Spa
[QUOTE=Thebob][url]http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/thp/1356717470.html[/url]
Has anyone been here?
I've noticed it recently, but I've never found it open.
I'll try again sometime soon.[/QUOTE]Yeah, used to be Alla Girls or something like that. Nothing special. Typical AMP and since, as someone stated earlier, most of the girls rotate in an out, you never know what you will get!
I recall average massage (big surprise!) and typical negotiation.
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From the reports I've noticed recently, it seems like the AMP girls are fighting back against our price control. They're starting their negotiations higher and being more forceful about them.
I was in the place on Warmsprings near Spencer that I've promoted a while back. I got the full hour. I didn't really care for the happy ending as much as a good, thorough massage. I had $35 on me and took the passive attitude that if she bitched about $35 for a simple HJ, I'd leave.
It doesn't help that this lady is more nervous in engaging in illicit activities than other AMP women, so when she registered that I only had $35, she literally gasped. I said to her, "If that's not enough, I'll leave." Pissed off and mumbling, she grabs Jr. and starts going at it. Of course she's pissed off as fuck as if she were facing a catastrophic occurrence, and she says, "Come on baby" after 90 seconds. I finish anyway less than a minute after that. She at least cleans me up, and leaves the room.
I have been there before. She has been totally friendly, offering me water, etc. Of course not this time, but I don't care. I'm more pissed that I got a 30 minute massage and a fast HJ for my full hour + tip. I don't have the $105 to waste on that kind of experience. I get dressed and head for the door. As I'm a few feet from the door, I see her back down the hall by the room. She looks at me like a fat Guido sports betting tout, and I open the door myself and leave.
My whole point is that AMPs seem to be on the defensive. Too many customers must be prepared to haggle. What I don't understand though, is why owners and girls care that much.
I just read a report about the GV Spa on GV and Olympic (just N of Sunset). I tried to do a little investigating into this whole AMP world. I got a few questions off, and made my masseuse nervous. I gathered they do not get to keep all of their tips. My previous impression was that they would get 10% of the house fee and 100% of the cash tips. Apparently I was off. These girls probably get no portion of the house fee and half of the tips.
That puts things into perspective. If you get up with out getting an "extra service," the masseuse gets absolutely nothing. I still encourage us patrons to negotiate and maintain a reasonable price range. It just seemed odd to me that when the economy was better, a masseuse would only ask for $50 for the HJ, you'd counter with $40, and they'd happily go at it. Now of all times they start with $100 and seem to be really surprised that you think $60 is too high.
This leads to my final conclusion. There is a saturation of AMPs in the AMP market. Since there is one walking distance from every point in town, there are simply too many for the market. Before there was an AMP on South Eastern near Anthem (I cannot believe there are multiple AMPs between Eastern and Sunridge Heights and Eastern and Grand Hills!) I used to frequent that area when I had business there a couple years ago, and I knew of 1 AMP on Eastern south of St. Rose.
There are so many AMPs now in this town!
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Smoke @ Fantasy
[QUOTE=Smokey1981]Ok so I been having some bad luck lately with all this AMPs so I decide to give it another shot maybe luck was on my side this time. And alittle jagermeister helps too anyway back to the massage I when to this place first of all let me tell you guys this place smell like sweatie midget ass, I was greeted by jenny or jennifer don't remeber medium build asian plain look the kind of girl that you only will hit after a 6 pack of Heineken you know what saying heheh. Anyway so we start to talk and I was shock she speak perfect english I was wow I'm in love we start talking about what an ass Glenn Beck is and I was suprises to hear that her favorite show was Mad Money with Jim Cramer I was in love with this girl I was so happy, finally baby jesus was looking out for me.
So here come the flip and we start the negotiation, all of the suden she didn't speak a word of english I'm like whats goin on we were just talking about how much you hated Glenn Beck and now you don't speak english. So I get up and leave I pay $65 for one hour massage and she wanted for what I undertand $80 for HJ. Then she say $60 then I say $40 she look at me and say ok. But I was mad and I say no way thats still too much "I'm cheap like that" she look at me with a suprise face, so I walk out with my feelings hurt I'm not goin back to that place.[/QUOTE]
Man I got FS at this place about 3 years ago. They were much cleaner then.
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Mustang Ranch
I am going to Vegas and thinking of going to the Mustang Ranch. Can someone PM me with a review and pricing for what you get? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Deep Subman]I am going to Vegas and thinking of going to the Mustang Ranch. Can someone PM me with a review and pricing for what you get? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Mustang ranch?
Listen if you wanna pay $1,000 for an old rusty girl be my guest.
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Re: Mustang Ranch
Hey Subman,
I get to Las Vegas every six months or so, and haven’t even considered the brothels for a decade. In my opinion, there’s no reason to leave town for this kind of entertainment--the sex-for-sale business is huge out here.
Judging by your previous posts, you are a regular in your local area, but a newbie to the Vegas scene. Going to the world famous Chicken Ranch probably sounds pretty cool, and maybe everyone should do it once. But, you’ll have to drive to the boonies to get there. When you arrive, be prepared to negotiate—the girls will start out with an outrageously priced menu, and you’ll have to work them back down to reality. Don’t like the selection? It’s a long drive back to town…
If you like the idea of shopping the girls and doing a deal on the spot, browse the Casino Girls forum before your trip so you know where and when to look. If you’ve got spare cash and want a sure thing, check TER for independents with good reviews.
BTW, if your area has a reliable, reasonably-priced AMP scene, you will find Las Vegas disappointing. There are plenty of AMP’s, but mileage and quality are relatively low.
Hope this helps!
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Supply & Demand
I'm no economist, but common sense would seem to indicate that we hobbyists should win in this one -- huge supply of AMP's and foot spas coupled with a weak economy which limits all of our budgets and number of visits. That combo can't help but drive prices down. Providers can try to raise rates, but it's just not something that the market would sustain.
[QUOTE=Rustys]From the reports I've noticed recently, it seems like the AMP girls are fighting back against our price control. They're starting their negotiations higher and being more forceful about them.
I was in the place on Warmsprings near Spencer that I've promoted a while back. I got the full hour. I didn't really care for the happy ending as much as a good, thorough massage. I had $35 on me and took the passive attitude that if she bitched about $35 for a simple HJ, I'd leave.
It doesn't help that this lady is more nervous in engaging in illicit activities than other AMP women, so when she registered that I only had $35, she literally gasped. I said to her, "If that's not enough, I'll leave." Pissed off and mumbling, she grabs Jr. and starts going at it. Of course she's pissed off as fuck as if she were facing a catastrophic occurrence, and she says, "Come on baby" after 90 seconds. I finish anyway less than a minute after that. She at least cleans me up, and leaves the room.
I have been there before. She has been totally friendly, offering me water, etc. Of course not this time, but I don't care. I'm more pissed that I got a 30 minute massage and a fast HJ for my full hour + tip. I don't have the $105 to waste on that kind of experience. I get dressed and head for the door. As I'm a few feet from the door, I see her back down the hall by the room. She looks at me like a fat Guido sports betting tout, and I open the door myself and leave.
My whole point is that AMPs seem to be on the defensive. Too many customers must be prepared to haggle. What I don't understand though, is why owners and girls care that much.
I just read a report about the GV Spa on GV and Olympic (just N of Sunset). I tried to do a little investigating into this whole AMP world. I got a few questions off, and made my masseuse nervous. I gathered they do not get to keep all of their tips. My previous impression was that they would get 10% of the house fee and 100% of the cash tips. Apparently I was off. These girls probably get no portion of the house fee and half of the tips.
That puts things into perspective. If you get up with out getting an "extra service," the masseuse gets absolutely nothing. I still encourage us patrons to negotiate and maintain a reasonable price range. It just seemed odd to me that when the economy was better, a masseuse would only ask for $50 for the HJ, you'd counter with $40, and they'd happily go at it. Now of all times they start with $100 and seem to be really surprised that you think $60 is too high.
This leads to my final conclusion. There is a saturation of AMPs in the AMP market. Since there is one walking distance from every point in town, there are simply too many for the market. Before there was an AMP on South Eastern near Anthem (I cannot believe there are multiple AMPs between Eastern and Sunridge Heights and Eastern and Grand Hills!) I used to frequent that area when I had business there a couple years ago, and I knew of 1 AMP on Eastern south of St. Rose.
There are so many AMPs now in this town![/QUOTE]
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Went here this past week (Durango)
[url]http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/thp/1340762943.html[/url]
Went there two times in the past and both times were very enjoyable HEs by decent girls. One even offered FS.
This last visit, no specials. Told them I been there before. Nada. $70 for a full hour massage.
AVOID.
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The AMP in Hendo near the Starbucks has a decent looking girl working.
Went there the other night after getting nada from Durango. Girl was trying to marry off her niece in china to me since I am asian. LOL... big mistake comes when I say "sure, I'll look at her pic." Now that she pegged me to marry her niece, on the flip, no roaming, no FS, no BJ... just a HJ for .4
But I'm sure she's good to go on all services.
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[QUOTE=Deori]... I gave her $.5 plus the house fee of .7, out the door for $$.2 - crabless![/QUOTE]
Deori,
Did I read this right? $$.2? That's 220.
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Supply and Demand
Hi Robert,
My initial thougt would be to agree with you, supply of AMP's should lower the cost. It does, to one extent, Las Vegas up-front fees are cheaper than my area around Chicago (typically $60 for 30 minutes). However, more AMP's mean fewer customers to go around. Additionally, the economy has reduced the number of mongers who have the money to spend. I forward the possiblility that the girl now has an increased need to negotiate up the price.
While typing this I thought of something. A BJ from a SW was about $20 over fifteen years ago. When you think about it, that is a pretty good bargin when you consider the increased cost of living.
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You got it.
[QUOTE=TSMDave]Deori,
Did I read this right? $$.2? That's 220.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Rustys]From the reports I've noticed recently, it seems like the AMP girls are fighting back against our price control. They're starting their negotiations higher and being more forceful about them.
There are so many AMPs now in this town! [/QUOTE]Perhaps I'm setting the curve higher, but if I want extras (who doesn't go for the extras? ) I'm willing to pay a premium for them. The problem with firm haggling is that the girls would rather get something than nothing. The problem in there lies the instant resentment.
Now, I don't know about you, but someone pissed off with my most valuable posession. In THEIR posession isn't where to try and cut rock bottom discounts at. Plus, if I'm already in for a few bucks, I'd rather pay a few more and get a good, non-mechanical, enthusiastic job done. I can stay at home and do that myself.
Plus, I don't know about you, but negotiating like I'm buying a Persian rug really takes all the fun out of it. I don't want to THINK about the money, it just makes me go limp like PacMan hitting a ghost. Sound effect included.
I'm pretty happy with $50 HE, $100 BBBJ, $150 FS. To me that is good for the girls and good for me. Everybody wins.
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[QUOTE=Vexter59]Perhaps I'm setting the curve higher, but if I want extras (who doesn't go for the extras? ) I'm willing to pay a premium for them. The problem with firm haggling is that the girls would rather get something than nothing. The problem in there lies the instant resentment.
Now, I don't know about you, but someone pissed off with my most valuable posession. In THEIR posession isn't where to try and cut rock bottom discounts at. Plus, if I'm already in for a few bucks, I'd rather pay a few more and get a good, non-mechanical, enthusiastic job done. I can stay at home and do that myself.
Plus, I don't know about you, but negotiating like I'm buying a Persian rug really takes all the fun out of it. I don't want to THINK about the money, it just makes me go limp like PacMan hitting a ghost. Sound effect included.
I'm pretty happy with $50 HE, $100 BBBJ, $150 FS. To me that is good for the girls and good for me. Everybody wins.[/QUOTE]
The prices you listed are not premium. That is what it should be, give or take a few dollars. But some guys are talking about paying $+ for a HE and $$+ for fs and this is crazy in my opinion. I also disagree that the more you pay a massuese the better experience you will have. Some girls are going to just "go through the motions" regardless of the price and when I do break down and pay these prices I am normally dissapointed after. And I am talking about being dissapointed with the service not the price.