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[QUOTE=VicksBurg70;4553726]In my case I neglected to add the link on Sex Godess but I did give her former name and stated that she had been previously reviewed on this site. Sometimes it doesn't hurt to use the advanced search box. That's why its there. I am not excusing the fact I left out the link but a little effort on your part would have turned up who I was referring to.[/QUOTE]Wasn't just talking about you, there have been quite a few instances of this lately. But since you brought it up, regardless of whether or not there are clues that someone might be able to use to figure out who you're talking about, if you're simply ASKING for information about a provider, it's kinda your responsibility to make it 100% clear who you're referring to (by providing a link, if one exists). Not the responsibility of those who you're asking for help to go doing searches to try and figure it out.

[QUOTE=DpmSaturn14;4562065]I've been trying to find info on her for a long time. Can't find anything posted here. I have the premium account on them, and she does have all good reviews. A new review was just posted recently. I had setup an appointment with her, but canceled. Wasn't certain if she's real or not. I really want to go see her. I love young Latin girls with long hair and nice legs. She fits what I'm looking for. Wish someone here could give some positive feedback about her.[/QUOTE]You really want to meet, you cancelled once, you actually close saying you really want someone else here to take any perceived risk even though she has recent reviews on paid sites that you subscribe to. Maybe you should pull the trigger and let us know how you make out.

[QUOTE=BridesMilk;4563700]Or. Now just hear me out on this. You could not be an asshole about it.[/QUOTE]And you could maybe try actually contributing some information for once instead of always just asking for help while giving nothing back. Seriously, asking someone to just GIVE you a RubMaps membership for free? What kind of response did you expect?

[QUOTE=MongerBob;4563721]And you could maybe try actually contributing some information for once instead of always just asking for help while giving nothing back. Seriously, asking someone to just GIVE you a RubMaps membership for free? What kind of response did you expect?[/QUOTE]LMAO! Money is for nothing and the chicks are free!

[QUOTE=MongerBob;4554413]Wasn't just talking about you, there have been quite a few instances of this lately. But since you brought it up, regardless of whether or not there are clues that someone might be able to use to figure out who you're talking about, if you're simply ASKING for information about a provider, it's kinda your responsibility to make it 100% clear who you're referring to (by providing a link, if one exists). Not the responsibility of those who you're asking for help to go doing searches to try and figure it out.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I agree with you on this one. I know I don't post as frequently as many of the senior members, but I do follow the threads and I know who I've seen, reviewed or read about but that doesn't mean I'm going to take the effort to remember someone's old name. Theres a chance I never saw them with that name so I don't know who is being referenced without a pic. Therefore, it is completely on the poster asking for info to provide a pic or link to a recent ad that will jog my memory. It is not up to us to do shit for them.

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;4695534]There is STILL no useful info about her menu which is raising MANY red flags with me now. Its clearly not LE, though, because I've been in communication with her, and the manner in which she upsells indicates that she's real. I interviewed her via text. She quoted me 180 hh by text for BBFS. Started with 120 hh. Then I asked about bareback. I asked her if she would do full-service without cover. So she immediately texted me back 180 hh. I told her that was too much but I would go with the original 120 that she'd asked, but without cover. Up until that point she sent replies immediately, but when I made that offer she went silent. If she is GFE with decent DFK and CIP with no further upsells and no other bullshit, I would do 140. I did get an earlier private report that she was previously asking 140 for BBFS, but that dude only interviewed her but did not visit her. So maybe she has contracted golden pussy syndrome already. And the dudes here on USASG are being too circumspect about her. So I am leery that there is just something not right here. I've yet to hear from anybody who has actually fucked her raw, except for a dude who says he is her regular.

So I'd still like to hear from anybody who saw her, who got BBFS on the first visit. And about menu in general. Decent DFK? Because if they are finicky about that, then, by my lights, even 140 would be too much. And I'd also like to know which motel she's working out of. Privately, if you wish. Because many of those south coast MA motels are in potentially dangerous rats-nest drug den thug abodes, which I will simply not visit anymore.[/QUOTE]Honestly dude, with all due respect, there's likely a reason why guys who have seen her are hesitant to share a lot of info with you specifically.

[QUOTE=MongerBob;4695621]Honestly dude, with all due respect, there's likely a reason why guys who have seen her are hesitant to share a lot of info with you specifically.[/QUOTE]Its true that I will not give up my top shelf hoes without something in return, from dudes I don't know very well.

But when I do post them with links, I NEVER hold back in reporting ALL sexual services I obtained, price, and ALL the relevant details. I do not see any reason not to. But with this Genie, nobody even seems to want to say whether they got DFK, or what prices they paid or were quoted. But it is clear from my communications with her that she will upsell for BBFS. And too high an upsell. So I'm wondering what else she might upsell for after arrival?

Now you, yourself, Bob, have been very forthcoming with your info, which I greatly appreciate.

But MANY who contacted me privately are being a bit too coy by half, and that is not usually the case with most girls, even the good performing hot ones. So when several different guys are VERY circumspect about a PARTICULAR girl, regarding menu, price, upsells, etc, I begin to infer that there may be something that they are hiding. Because when I have run into this in the past, there was usually some white-knighting going on. And when that happens, I become VERY suspicious--primarily about the safety of the incall and the possible presence of pimps / thugs, in particular. And that goes triple for when they are in motels, where the reports I got say Genie is, but nobody will tell me which motel. There are some motels in Seekonk, as you might know, that are just accidents waiting to happen.

[QUOTE=MongerBob;4695621]Honestly dude, with all due respect, there's likely a reason why guys who have seen her are hesitant to share a lot of info with you specifically.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;4695813]Its true that I will not give up my top shelf hoes without something in return, from dudes I don't know very well.

But when I do post them with links, I NEVER hold back in reporting ALL sexual services I obtained, price, and ALL the relevant details. I do not see any reason not to. But with this Genie, nobody even seems to want to say whether they got DFK, or what prices they paid or were quoted. But it is clear from my communications with her that she will upsell for BBFS. And too high an upsell. So I'm wondering what else she might upsell for after arrival?

Now you, yourself, Bob, have been very forthcoming with your info, which I greatly appreciate.

But MANY who contacted me privately are being a bit too coy by half, and that is not usually the case with most girls, even the good performing hot ones. So when several different guys are VERY circumspect about a PARTICULAR girl, regarding menu, price, upsells, etc, I begin to infer that there may be something that they are hiding. Because when I have run into this in the past, there was usually some white-knighting going on. And when that happens, I become VERY suspicious--primarily about the safety of the incall and the possible presence of pimps / thugs, in particular. And that goes triple for when they are in motels, where the reports I got say Genie is, but nobody will tell me which motel. There are some motels in Seekonk, as you might know, that are just accidents waiting to happen.[/QUOTE]I also should have mentioned that I've had some close calls with these types of motels, not in New England, but in the Philly area, but in the same type of drug-den LE magnets like the Helltop, Moby's Dick, and Mary Mary's quite contrary. So when a girl is in a small motel and no one is willing to give details about their encounteer, I tend to get very gun-shy, as I said, because of hard past experiences. So if someone could tell me which motel she currently uses, and something about the menu, then I might try re-negotiating with her, from a different burner number.

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;4695813]Its true that I will not give up my top shelf hoes without something in return, from dudes I don't know very well.

But when I do post them with links, I NEVER hold back in reporting ALL sexual services I obtained, price, and ALL the relevant details. I do not see any reason not to. But with this Genie, nobody even seems to want to say whether they got DFK, or what prices they paid or were quoted. But it is clear from my communications with her that she will upsell for BBFS. And too high an upsell. So I'm wondering what else she might upsell for after arrival?

Now you, yourself, Bob, have been very forthcoming with your info, which I greatly appreciate.

But MANY who contacted me privately are being a bit too coy by half, and that is not usually the case with most girls, even the good performing hot ones. So when several different guys are VERY circumspect about a PARTICULAR girl, regarding menu, price, upsells, etc, I begin to infer that there may be something that they are hiding. Because when I have run into this in the past, there was usually some white-knighting going on. And when that happens, I become VERY suspicious--primarily about the safety of the incall and the possible presence of pimps / thugs, in particular. And that goes triple for when they are in motels, where the reports I got say Genie is, but nobody will tell me which motel. There are some motels in Seekonk, as you might know, that are just accidents waiting to happen.[/QUOTE]It isn't about your lack of willingness to share information. I'm truly not trying to be an asshole or anything here, but a lot of guys probably look at your habits in seeing providers and the type of services that you exclusively look for as being very risky and unsafe. And would perhaps prefer that you don't see a provider who they like seeing for that reason. I'm not going to lie and say I've never done BBFS. I'm sure most of us here have on occasion. But when you post constantly about the hundreds of providers you've "inseminated" and everyone knows you ONLY do BBFS. It creates concerns about the safety (from a health point of view) of any provider you've seen.

Not judging you for your preferences, I don't think any guys actually LIKE condoms. But, it's naive to pretend there isn't an increased risk there. And the more you do it the more risk there is. I can definitely understand why a lot of guys would have concerns about sharing certain info with you for that reason.

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;4695534] She quoted me 180 hh by text for BBFS. Started with 120 hh. Then I asked about bareback. I asked her if she would do full-service without cover. So she immediately texted me back 180 hh. I told her that was too much but I would go with the original 120 that she'd asked, but without cover. Up until that point she sent replies immediately, but when I made that offer she went silent. If she is GFE with decent DFK and CIP with no further upsells and no other bullshit, I would do 140. I did get an earlier private report that she was previously asking 140 for BBFS, but that dude only interviewed her but did not visit her.
And about menu in general. Decent DFK? Because if they are finicky about that, then, by my lights, even 140 would be too much.[/QUOTE]If a girl charges more for the increased risk of catching an STD from you and you demand that she lower her prices for you then you sir are a giant shit bag. No one wants to share syphilis with you. Also if you're going to raw dog hookers you should probably space them out at least two months apart and get tested in between. Be safe and respectful instead of being an entitled piece of shit. Fuck you.

[QUOTE=MongerBob;4696022]It isn't about your lack of willingness to share information. I'm truly not trying to be an asshole or anything here, but a lot of guys probably look at your habits in seeing providers and the type of services that you exclusively look for as being very risky and unsafe. And would perhaps prefer that you don't see a provider who they like seeing for that reason. I'm not going to lie and say I've never done BBFS. I'm sure most of us here have on occasion. But when you post constantly about the hundreds of providers you've "inseminated" and everyone knows you ONLY do BBFS. It creates concerns about the safety (from a health point of view) of any provider you've seen.

Not judging you for your preferences, I don't think any guys actually LIKE condoms. But, it's naive to pretend there isn't an increased risk there. And the more you do it the more risk there is. I can definitely understand why a lot of guys would have concerns about sharing certain info with you for that reason.[/QUOTE]Your point is well taken, Bob. And my response is, that we all have our own levels of risk. And it's one of the main reasons that I prefer to primarily trade info with those that are willing to take my level of risk. The degree of trust in the information exchange is better when exchanging info with those who have the same goals and risk levels. The risks that I myself will NOT take, primarily involve thugs with or without badges. Some dudes will enter downright dangerous premises that I never would. On the other hand, I stick my bare dick into holes that a lot of dudes would not. I've no problem with that, and I understand your point about those not wanting to share with someone at my risk level.

But in this case with Genie, it seems to me, that there is something else going on here. Regulars who admit to raw dogging just about anything that I would, and indeed have admitted that to me privately, are exactly the same dudes that were being circumspect about her prices, incall safety, and menu. This makes me suspect they they are white knighting, or worse: They may actually may be getting a cut of her proceeds or some freebies. It is my communications with these particular individuals that makes me suspicious about everything else they say about her.

[QUOTE=DudeGuy;4696284]If a girl charges more for the increased risk of catching an STD from you and you demand that she lower her prices for you then you sir are a giant shit bag. No one wants to share syphilis with you. Also if you're going to raw dog hookers you should probably space them out at least two months apart and get tested in between. Be safe and respectful instead of being an entitled piece of shit. Fuck you.[/QUOTE]I neither give nor take medical advice on anonymous forums, sir. So I will simply ignore your comment about that.

But as far as increased risk is concerned, this is something I never understood: Why would a hoe feel better getting an extra 60 dollars for the increased risk of fucking raw? Is she going to use the money to get tested more frequently? In some cases, maybe. But many girls that upsell like that don't get tested at all. It's just a way of extracting a higher donation. So how could an upsell of $40-$60 to fuck bareback benefit anyone but the hoe? Sure, it will discourage me from inseminating them. Because I have an upper limit on price. But many of us raw-doggers are willing to pay quite a bit more than I do. And these wealthier dudes fuck more hoes bareback than I can ever afford! So upsells are surely not discouraging the practice of bareback fucking, and so, are surely also not decreasing YOUR risk!

And by the way-since this IS thunderdome where I am permitted to call you an asshole: You are indeed quite a shit-filled, arrogant, and unintelligent asshole, sir!

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;4696659]I neither give nor take medical advice on anonymous forums, sir. So I will simply ignore your comment about that.

But as far as increased risk is concerned, this is something I never understood: Why would a hoe feel better getting an extra 60 dollars for the increased risk of fucking raw? Is she going to use the money to get tested more frequently? In some cases, maybe. But many girls that upsell like that don't get tested at all. It's just a way of extracting a higher donation. So how could an upsell of $40-$60 to fuck bareback benefit anyone but the hoe? Sure, it will discourage me from inseminating them. Because I have an upper limit on price. But many of us raw-doggers are willing to pay quite a bit more than I do. And these wealthier dudes fuck more hoes bareback than I can ever afford! So upsells are surely not discouraging the practice of bareback fucking, and so, are surely also not decreasing YOUR risk!

And by the way-since this IS thunderdome where I am permitted to call you an asshole: You are indeed quite a shit-filled, arrogant, and unintelligent asshole, sir![/QUOTE]If someone asked you to do a more dangerous job, would you not want more money in compensation? It seems fair to me. And those wealthier dudes would still be seeing her regardless. Charging more still filters out the bottom feeders. And if we're being honest with ourselves here, the lower the price gets, the bigger the risk there is. Providers who are willing to go raw for dirt cheap are very likely to be drug addicts and very high-volume. So while upsells may not discourage BBFS at all, it certainly discourages those who are among the biggest risk-takers from engaging in it.

[QUOTE=MongerBob;4696881]If someone asked you to do a more dangerous job, would you not want more money in compensation? It seems fair to me. And those wealthier dudes would still be seeing her regardless. Charging more still filters out the bottom feeders. And if we're being honest with ourselves here, the lower the price gets, the bigger the risk there is. Providers who are willing to go raw for dirt cheap are very likely to be drug addicts and very high-volume. So while upsells may not discourage BBFS at all, it certainly discourages those who are among the biggest risk-takers from engaging in it.[/QUOTE]Well, we can point / counterpoint on this all day long, and your points are well-taken, Bob. Its true, at present, that I do seek cheaper girls than I used to, out of necessity. But I've been known to inseminate quite a few high-end eros and touring agency girls a couple of decades ago, when I could well afford it. At least once or twice a week. And there were PLENTY of those girls that would raw-dog and take sperm deposits from just about ANYBODY. Anyone remember Sabrina of Belle de Jour? Jamie of Flawless Escorts? And of course Gina Rollins, Ashley Taylor, and Cameo Cache, and porn star Kelly Leigh, all of whom I think are still working? And taking daily spermloads from anyone with between 300 or 500 dollars in cash, and two balls and a dick? These girls, and MANY MANY other high-end girls, were all inseminated by me, as well as at least a thousand other dudes who exclusively, or at least mainly, fucked hoes raw. And I, as well as MANY MANY of those those other dudes, also frequently had their bare cocks in the local addict girls such as _ (Insert your favorite raw-dogging, track-marked beauty here. There are MANY to choose from! )

So, while I see your point, Bob, in practical terms, I really don't think that these upsells accomplish anything other than lining these girls' pockets. Sure--upping the price for raw fucking might eliminate little' ol' me from the "risk pool". But based on what I know about my wealthier, raw-dogging colleagues, I really cannot believe that these kind of upsells really significantly reduce anybody's risk. This is a risky business, to be sure. And while condoms do significanty reduce risk for certain things, a lot dudes don't even realize that there is still considerable risk fucking WITH condoms. And even significant risk from BBBJ.

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;4696950]I really don't think that these upsells accomplish anything other than lining these girls' pockets.[/QUOTE]Putting aside the issue of whether or not it reduces risk for us mongers, do you not think it's reasonable for someone to ask for more compensation when you're asking THEM to take a greater risk?