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F this place. Went here on Tuesday and vowing to never again return.
I got a newish gal who offered me a BJ for 100 bucks. She asked me pay first and then give me 2 licks and that was it. I told her to keep sucking it and she said "no no" and proceeded to jack hammer.
Rip off. I wanted to punch her right there and then.
[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;6732309]As far as SH, which one is the famous Helen?
Are the ones with open menus old?[/QUOTE]Helen is 50-55. Short and extremely thick. You don't see her for her looks. Good personality, great massage, and knows 100 ways to milk a man. There aren't any 20 year olds there but Lee\Lin, Apple and Lily are 30-40 ish and I've gotten FS from all three. All took a little time bit with the effort. The back room and front room are the playgrounds.
There are several shops around that charge 50 or 60 for house, and usually these places are actually crappier than the 40 places. So I suspect that they get tired of cheapskate mongers giving 10 buck tips, so they raise their house fee wth the expectation of lower tips. So those places might be a better deal (50 house + 40 = 90,40 house + 60 = 100).
At 2018 Massage, I asked Mia or Mimi what was normal for a tip 40/50/60 and she said any of those are fine. She seemed willing to take anything, but it was a slow day. So that would have been 45 + 40 = 85 for a pull and a squeeze.
At SH, I have never had a girl ask for any specific tip, or complain about a tip. Unlike some other well known places.
I normally do 60 but depends on service quality, attitude, enthusiasm, cleanliness, access, cuteness, and hotness.
A tip should be related to the service. As everyone here knows, HJ's are no more all the same, then every restaurant meal is the same. There are $3 HappyEndingMeals and $200 Michellin restaurant meals. So we really need to not agree to fixed tips in advance. I suggest offering a range. And giving her some incentive to do her best. I think the proper response to "You tip me 70 sailor?" Is "I will tip you between 20 to 70, possibly even 120, depending on my satisfaction level". It seems almost criminal to pay the same 60 for gold service with GFE, extras, and access, . And then pay 60 for grab-and-shake novice with sand paper hands and shorts you time. Better service means better tip.
As for the shop where the girl gave me back money, I am not entirely sure about the motive. Several of the gals want me to be their regular, so that cash back might have been to lock in repeat business. So I hesitate to send 200 guys over there giving $40 tips. Its a place that seems like a dump at first glance, but its always busy with a large stable of talent, and the other mongers seem to be fairly higher class than the more famous places.
[QUOTE=CivilBeast;6731137]Mag and Bolsa, L shaped 3 story complex with 7/11 in the center. Tried Blue Sky at lunch. There are a couple other joints at this mall. Walk in and dude comes out from the back chewing on chop sticks. Gets behind the counter and stares down at an empty calendar and asks if I have appointment? No. How long? Half hour. Getting ready to walk and then he asks, boy or girl? Girl. OK. Something something. Cute younger asian girl comes out from the back. Wow. But she's sporting leggings and Doc Martins. Bummer. She leads me to a room down the hall and says get undressed. I signal to my pants and she vigorously shakes her head. Got a back massage, no action. Think it was 40 door and tipped 40. Does anyone know if the other spots here offer?[/QUOTE]That's the place with the 3 story pagoda building? Yeah that Blue Sky is legit, and cold rooms. Don't waste your time. There is another place on the same floor, and the MMS used to be a FS provider at F&C but I guess she went legit too.
Bolsa is hit and miss, while Westminster and Beach are pretty much sure thing.
After the spa was closed for 1 day, I didn't know what to expect, so just walked in during the week to see who's available. Kelly answered the door and took me to one of the rooms. She wasn't wearing any makeup like she used to but still sexy and pretty as hell. I told her I wanted to see her so I waited in the room for a few minutes until she came back into the room in her red fitted dress revealing her bod. We lfk then dfk, I felt like I was making out with my girlfriend from back in high school, kissing her was so enjoyable. We skipped the massage so she had me lay on the table for a quick clean up. Her BBBJ skills were on point then switched to 69 so I could taste her and indeed she was tasty. I had on the table so I could DATY and DATO, she was very responsive and climbed up to get one more BBBJ before the cfs. She felt pretty tight and she was really getting into it, lots of dfk until I finally blew in the bag. At the end she told me you make me happy 2 times with a smile, I hope it's true and want to see her again if she's still there this weekend.
Damage was 7 (hr) + $4 (tip).
[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;6732309]As far as SH, which one is the famous Helen?
Are the ones with open menus old?[/QUOTE]Helen is not hard to find, she goes by the name "Helen". You waltz in and say "Helen please". She is the only survivor of the many changes, and always has a great attitude.
For menu's, its been said 1000 times, but YMMV. Most of the big time menu girls have left. Walk across the street next to KFK.
[QUOTE=Pineapples1;6732676]F this place. Went here on Tuesday and vowing to never again return.
I got a newish gal who offered me a BJ for 100 bucks. She asked me pay first and then give me 2 licks and that was it. I told her to keep sucking it and she said "no no" and proceeded to jack hammer.
Rip off. I wanted to punch her right there and then.[/QUOTE]I'm not a customer of this place but as a warning to others, what's her name and description?
[QUOTE=CivilBeast;6731137]
Continued down to Lucky Pavlov's. Pulled Emily. At a distance with her pig tails, short skirt and push up bra, looked alright. They divided up the big room in the back. Walls paper thin, all the grunting of arms. Gave entrance and she leaves. Think it was 35 hhr. Comes back in and does the boom boom dance. Offer 1. 2 and she leaves again. She comes back and starts with a BBJ. Air kisses along the shaft but eventually gets me full chub with ok suction. Let her know I'm ready and we switch. Face is average, body late 40's, B cup, square back, MILF stomach, but her attitude is good. Tasted the tuna. Not market fresh. Standing mission and she takes it nice, good eye contact and positive encouragement. Get some good strokes in and empty in the bag. OK massage for the rest of my time. Saw a tall looker on the way out in heels, jeans, hoop earrings with hair pulled up. Wanted to ask but she turned and shook her ass down the hall throwing a look over her shoulder. Management? Damn.[/QUOTE]Emily's a trooper for the slurping BBBJ and boom boom but she's a GILf. You can see it in her face and she admitted to being almost 60 but she is still more than a decade younger than perennial favorite, Jenny. Because of her attitude and her MILF looking bod, I've asked for her a few times over younger providers.
Alrighty then, so here's the deal. At first, Coco was a bit on the shy side. But as we chatted, she started to warm up. I asked her age, and she just straight-up said "26. " In the beginning, she was just doing her regular massage thing, but slowly, she started to add a few more special touches. When she lightly grazed my inner thighs, I didn't hold back and spread 'them a bit more. She seemed cool with it, and I let her know I'd tip extra for a bit more. Then she really got into the groove and added some B2 B action. The extra stuff later was like, maybe 1/3 HJ and the rest BBJ. What surprised me was how into the BBJ Coco got, which totally made up for the slow start. Lucky for me, I spotted that big Victoria Spa sign in Lake Forest on El Toro while I was driving around after a shopping trip in Happy Valley. Didn't miss a beat. So yeah, it started off a bit slow. I get it. But in the end, Coco totally turned the game around.
Bottoms up, fellas.
[QUOTE=Pineapples1;6732676]F this place. Went here on Tuesday and vowing to never again return.
I got a newish gal who offered me a BJ for 100 bucks. She asked me pay first and then give me 2 licks and that was it. I told her to keep sucking it and she said "no no" and proceeded to jack hammer.
Rip off. I wanted to punch her right there and then.[/QUOTE]Was it Lucy? Mindy has been offering but I haven't bit.
[QUOTE=Iislali938;6733044]Alrighty then, so here's the deal. At first, Coco was a bit on the shy side. But as we chatted, she started to warm up. I asked her age, and she just straight-up said "26. " In the beginning, she was just doing her regular massage thing, but slowly, she started to add a few more special touches. When she lightly grazed my inner thighs, I didn't hold back and spread 'them a bit more. She seemed cool with it, and I let her know I'd tip extra for a bit more. Then she really got into the groove and added some B2 B action. The extra stuff later was like, maybe 1/3 HJ and the rest BBJ. What surprised me was how into the BBJ Coco got, which totally made up for the slow start. Lucky for me, I spotted that big Victoria Spa sign in Lake Forest on El Toro while I was driving around after a shopping trip in Happy Valley. Didn't miss a beat. So yeah, it started off a bit slow. I get it. But in the end, Coco totally turned the game around.
Bottoms up, fellas.[/QUOTE]What was the damage? Or is this another one of your fictional posts?
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[QUOTE=Caribe;6732918]I'm not a customer of this place but as a warning to others, what's her name and description?[/QUOTE]Didn't bother getting her name and she scurried away and hid afterwards so I didn't see her again after. Hard to describe specifically, just the generic Chinese gal. Looks about 5'3-5'4 approx 145 pounds, mid 30's, black hair.
Also, the mms and pps usually thank me on the way out, but this time they avoided eye contact so they must be in on this scam. Times are tough and talent going downhill maybe they're desperate for a little extra cash. Rubbed me the wrong way and I will not be back.
On a positive note, I went to VIP Day Spa a couple times last week in Stanton and this place is phenomenal. All the girls are late 30's-early 40's Viets and give exceptional BJs. . 4 for HH and 1. 2 for BBBJCIM. 1. 8 for FS but I didn't partake in that.
[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;6733068]Was it Lucy? Mindy has been offering but I haven't bit.[/QUOTE]Correction *Lucky*.
[QUOTE=FeMaiden;6733168]What was the damage? Or is this another one of your fictional posts?[/QUOTE]Just got to ask man. For these level of services, I usually start with maybe about 130'ish in my head and then add / subtract from there as the session goes on. Regarding the post, I donated 120.
[QUOTE=Pineapples1;6733382]On a positive note, I went to VIP Day Spa a couple times last week in Stanton and this place is phenomenal. All the girls are late 30's-early 40's Viets and give exceptional BJs. . 4 for HH and 1. 2 for BBBJCIM. 1. 8 for FS but I didn't partake in that.[/QUOTE]Is there any massage included in session? Or strickly zexytime.
120 bbjcim, that's a Steal! Is that a spit or A Swallow?
I do miss the viet girls, mp been 98% Chinese for past 5 years.
[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;6733443]Correction *Lucky*.[/QUOTE]I'm with you, Penguin. Though I did take the bait with Lucky once. She's petite and cute enough for me but the extras menu is quite shallow. She was objecting to even my rubbing her leg during the massage. Maybe she's figured out the tips get bigger if she offers some surprises but I won't be requesting her any time soon to find out.
I'll reiterate, Cici will swallow your sword for a few minutes but not enough to get you over the finish line. Unless you're faster than a 3-minute egg timer.
Mr. P.
[QUOTE=OcAmper;6730790]Are there any Korean parlors these days? Seems they are all Chinese or Vietnamese in OC.[/QUOTE]When I want Kimchi I go to Sunnywell Wellness.
[QUOTE=MrPlumber;6733846]I'm with you, Penguin. Though I did take the bait with Lucky once. She's petite and cute enough for me but the extras menu is quite shallow. She was objecting to even my rubbing her leg during the massage. Maybe she's figured out the tips get bigger if she offers some surprises but I won't be requesting her any time soon to find out.
I'll reiterate, Cici will swallow your sword for a few minutes but not enough to get you over the finish line. Unless you're faster than a 3-minute egg timer.
Mr. P.[/QUOTE]I wonder what direction they are taking at BW, Mindy got rid of Coco and it seems like they are trying to get younger talent. It would be a riot of they went FS w / BW standard massage.
[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;6733840]Is there any massage included in session? Or strickly zexytime.
120 bbjcim, that's a Steal! Is that a spit or A Swallow?
I do miss the viet girls, mp been 98% Chinese for past 5 years.[/QUOTE]The first time, my provider gave me a pretty good massage. But the second time, it was straight to business. She swallowed both times for me.
I noticed a few MPs on Whittier Blvd and wondered if anyone has partaken?
Tia!
[QUOTE=MrPlumber;6732557]5 Star B & F?[/QUOTE]True care.
[QUOTE=Iislali938;6733044]Alrighty then, so here's the deal. At first, Coco was a bit on the shy side. But as we chatted, she started to warm up. I asked her age, and she just straight-up said "26. " In the beginning, she was just doing her regular massage thing, but slowly, she started to add a few more special touches. When she lightly grazed my inner thighs, I didn't hold back and spread 'them a bit more. She seemed cool with it, and I let her know I'd tip extra for a bit more. Then she really got into the groove and added some B2 B action. The extra stuff later was like, maybe 1/3 HJ and the rest BBJ. What surprised me was how into the BBJ Coco got, which totally made up for the slow start. Lucky for me, I spotted that big Victoria Spa sign in Lake Forest on El Toro while I was driving around after a shopping trip in Happy Valley. Didn't miss a beat. So yeah, it started off a bit slow. I get it. But in the end, Coco totally turned the game around.
Bottoms up, fellas.[/QUOTE]Went to Victoria Spa in LF last week based on the reviews here. Paid the door fee and got settled in the room. In comes the attendant and says " I get 200 per hour before she says hello. Negotiated to $145 for 45 minutes and then she proceeds with a pathetic warm stone massage that was so lame and the opposite of anyone's idea of erotic. I thought the best part was going to start any minute. Almost 30 min goes by with this lame stone rub and I questioned my sanity for being here. Got up off the table, told her I'm out of here and got dressed. She left and never came back. I would have given her some $ but it was a ghost town after that, so I just left, no tip. Sorry I forgot her name, mid 20's dark hair a bit pudgy weigh a bad attitude.
I only monger occasionally and I want to thank those who share their experiences, most have been very helpful, so here is my contribution. By the way there is no big Victoria Spa sign on El Toro anywhere, not on the street, not on the door. Its total BS as is, I suspect, the rest of the report. Sorry Iislai938. Don't go here.
Happy New Year you helpful mongers!
Anyone have any information on this joint? Used to be a favorite, I'm wondering if they've relocated.
The Good:
Many moons ago Mayflower massage was strictly legitimate Mom and Pop MP. However, it was sold and the new owners have kept the name and revamped it to FS. I've only been there once (2 weeks ago). I had a great session with, of all things, a Thai provider named "Liz"- early 40's, pretty face and decent body. Attitude was great!. I paid 60 for the hour and got a really good massage, plus to my surprise, all the extras offered. I opted for BBBJCIM-69 ($120).
The Bad:
Unfortunately Liz is going back to Thailand for 3 months as of the 28th of this month.
The Ugly:
I went back there on Christmas day hoping she would be there, but alas the woman working looked old and post-menopausal and didn't opt in.
I am reluctant to recommend this place because I fear the replacements will be more like the latter than the former.
I could be wrong.
-Baggens.
[QUOTE=AF1232;6734647]I noticed a few MPs on Whittier Blvd and wondered if anyone has partaken?
Tia![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Iislali938;6733598]Just got to ask man. For these level of services, I usually start with maybe about 130'ish in my head and then add / subtract from there as the session goes on. Regarding the post, I donated 120.[/QUOTE]And the big sign? It must be camouflaged.
Recently spotted this one down on main st in Santa Ana. I'd love the feedback of some fellow mongers who might've tried this one out!
Stopped by Green Sign yesterday to see what the new roster is like. Pulled Miki as I was waiting behind the screen divider.
Average looks, a bit cute when she smiles, squarish face. 5'4", natural full B's, a large ass, natural Bush that's maintained well but a bit on the coarser side. Miki's lightly tanned with no tattoos. Waist up she falls into the chasm between average and slim. Waist down she's thicc with a very healthy helping of ass with thighs that are plump and juicy. Keep in mind I don't mind a bit of meat on the girls I see so your take on her may not be as positive as mine.
Very good English, says she's been living in the States for a while now. DFK was nowhere to be seen, only got LFK and only when I initiated so not the best in that department. BBBJ was good and slow until it got toothy. Really killed it when that happened. Girls need to learn to differentiate between applying pressure with the soft tissue of their mouth and tongue versus using teeth to do so. Suited up and went straight for K9 as she had the physique that would lend a great view. I was not disappointed, plenty of places to admire, grab, squeeze, and hold. Flipped her to mish to get better access to her tits and get a clearer look of me going into her pussy. She's quite flexible which is nice. Popped in mish.
Miki's pleasant and with a fun personality. Overall, I would place her a little above average compared to other AMP girls I've seen. One thing to note is that while I very much enjoyed and appreciated her English skills, the constant broken record of "I love your cock, honey" and the like while fucking her was a distraction than sexy encouragement. I prefer a good sensual moan than stock porn one liners.
$50 for hhr and $140 tip.
[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;6734354]I wonder what direction they are taking at BW, Mindy got rid of Coco and it seems like they are trying to get younger talent. It would be a riot of they went FS w / BW standard massage.[/QUOTE]I doubt that will ever happen. Mindy would have to get rid of her 3 best producers. I totally doubt Andie, Anna or Jessica would ever do that.
[QUOTE=BraveNuPengwin;6733840]Is there any massage included in session? Or strickly zexytime.
120 bbjcim, that's a Steal! Is that a spit or A Swallow
I do miss the viet girls, mp been 98% Chinese for past 5 years.[/QUOTE]I went there today. Not much massage. On the flip she ask me what I want. I say mouth than she ask me how much. I say 1. 2. Than she give me a bbjcim and I think she swallow it. I didn't ask for FS so not sure sure the damage.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;6735216]Stopped by Green Sign yesterday to see what the new roster is like. Pulled Miki as I was waiting behind the screen divider.
Average looks, a bit cute when she smiles, squarish face. 5'4", natural full B's, a large ass, natural Bush that's maintained well but a bit on the coarser side. Miki's lightly tanned with no tattoos. Waist up she falls into the chasm between average and slim. Waist down she's thicc with a very healthy helping of ass with thighs that are plump and juicy. Keep in mind I don't mind a bit of meat on the girls I see so your take on her may not be as positive as mine.
Very good English, says she's been living in the States for a while now. DFK was nowhere to be seen, only got LFK and only when I initiated so not the best in that department. BBBJ was good and slow until it got toothy. Really killed it when that happened. Girls need to learn to differentiate between applying pressure with the soft tissue of their mouth and tongue versus using teeth to do so. Suited up and went straight for K9 as she had the physique that would lend a great view. I was not disappointed, plenty of places to admire, grab, squeeze, and hold. Flipped her to mish to get better access to her tits and get a clearer look of me going into her pussy. She's quite flexible which is nice. Popped in mish.
Miki's pleasant and with a fun personality. Overall, I would place her a little above average compared to other AMP girls I've seen. One thing to note is that while I very much enjoyed and appreciated her English skills, the constant broken record of "I love your cock, honey" and the like while fucking her was a distraction than sexy encouragement. I prefer a good sensual moan than stock porn one liners.
$50 for hhr and $140 tip.[/QUOTE]
I don't like how the the girls here are no longer defaulting to DFK. I always come here expecting it and want uniform service but I went during the weekend and pulled Maya who was a bit over the top in acting and didn't DFK. It ruined the vibe for me, but I guess they either want a bigger tip or just avoiding it due to flu season. I also gave 1. 4 like I always do for a HH but I'll probably have to replace this place for somewhere else that guarantees DFK every time.
[QUOTE=Pineapples1;6735471]I don't like how the the girls here are no longer defaulting to DFK. I always come here expecting it and want uniform service but I went during the weekend and pulled Maya who was a bit over the top in acting and didn't DFK. It ruined the vibe for me, but I guess they either want a bigger tip or just avoiding it due to flu season. I also gave 1. 4 like I always do for a HH but I'll probably have to replace this place for somewhere else that guarantees DFK every time.[/QUOTE]Dude hold the line or they will get 160-180. The pandemic started that shit and now that it's over that shits got to stop. When I hear 160 I reluctantly say say no. They say no and I say ok no. Then a BJ for 100 and again I say no just continue the massage. When she says no to that I get up start getter ng dresses and ask for for my half hour back. That greedy shit don't even deserve a 10 $ tip. I hate the greedy shit going on now. You guys should also. Get them back in touch with reality and refuse that bs. Next year if you continue those crazy tips it'll just go higher.
Watch out for next year guys / gals it's going to get crazy again. There is no inflation over 20 ! Get a massage and tip them 10.
[QUOTE=Pineapples1;6735471]I don't like how the the girls here are no longer defaulting to DFK. I always come here expecting it and want uniform service but I went during the weekend and pulled Maya who was a bit over the top in acting and didn't DFK. It ruined the vibe for me, but I guess they either want a bigger tip or just avoiding it due to flu season. I also gave 1. 4 like I always do for a HH but I'll probably have to replace this place for somewhere else that guarantees DFK every time.[/QUOTE]I hear ya Pineapples, I just got back from one of new apartment bordelloz and same shpeele. 200 mangos: hot young maybe 23-25 the most China doll import: bbj, dato, DT til gag (pushed ever so gently) she was cute, fun, and enjoyed me eating her ass and then plunging her hairy seashell (one thing I don't like about the ones that are fresh off the boat).
But here's the catch she wanted another 100 for DFK! Maybe they are covidiots or something.
I went to the nature in Santa Ana after reading the reports here. I got coco and would like to say it was a great exp. She mention that she's going to be in LA soonish so check it out while you still can.
[QUOTE=Pineapples1;6735471]I don't like how the the girls here are no longer defaulting to DFK. I always come here expecting it and want uniform service but I went during the weekend and pulled Maya who was a bit over the top in acting and didn't DFK. It ruined the vibe for me, but I guess they either want a bigger tip or just avoiding it due to flu season. I also gave 1. 4 like I always do for a HH but I'll probably have to replace this place for somewhere else that guarantees DFK every time.[/QUOTE]Yep. I have been the saying thing. Even Nancy Reagan said it: "Just say no". Or as I say "Sticker shock? Time to walk". If you have ever bought a blanket in TJ, this same strategy often results in a counter offer that is more budget friendly. If enough customers refuse to accept higher prices, then they get the message that they will lose customers if they are too greedy. Its all about supply-and-demand. They control the supply and we control the demand.
Long time member here. I've been to nature a handful of times and have got the standard bbj and cfs service but I read reports of you guys get great dfk. How do I request that since most don't speak English. Every time I have gone the girl gets straight to bbj. I would like a little warm up before we hit 2nd gear.
And also I've done daty but I would like to do datyfrom behind in doggy.
How do I request such things. I don't want to seem to aggressive or pushy. I don't want to ruin the mood.
Should I ask the mama San before I arrive.
Any advice.
[QUOTE=OrangeGoku;6735983]Long time member here. I've been to nature a handful of times and have got the standard bbj and cfs service but I read reports of you guys get great dfk. How do I request that since most don't speak English. Every time I have gone the girl gets straight to bbj. I would like a little warm up before we hit 2nd gear.
And also I've done daty but I would like to do datyfrom behind in doggy.
How do I request such things. I don't want to seem to aggressive or pushy. I don't want to ruin the mood.
Should I ask the mama San before I arrive.
Any advice.[/QUOTE]This why I stopped going to AMPs. You can ask the girl in the begin. You may to use a translator app. Sadly, I've only gotten LFK from AMPs.
I now just go to AAMPs. True its more expansive, but you do get a better experience. It's also nice getting a shower and a large bed.
[QUOTE=ShyBraveOC;6735285]I doubt that will ever happen. Mindy would have to get rid of her 3 best producers. I totally doubt Andie, Anna or Jessica would ever do that.[/QUOTE]While most of the BW ladies have lovers over time, I doubt it will ever become a place known for FS while Mindy owns it. Why would she risk it? She's always busy and the girls love working for her, often times because it's not a full service place. Same with SH down stairs. Steven says don't, then looks the other way while he's taking our cash.
If it ain't broke.
[QUOTE=OrangeGoku;6735983]Long time member here. I've been to nature a handful of times and have got the standard bbj and cfs service but I read reports of you guys get great dfk. How do I request that since most don't speak English. Every time I have gone the girl gets straight to bbj. I would like a little warm up before we hit 2nd gear.
And also I've done daty but I would like to do datyfrom behind in doggy.
How do I request such things. I don't want to seem to aggressive or pushy. I don't want to ruin the mood.
Should I ask the mama San before I arrive.
Any advice.[/QUOTE]In my own experience, anytime I've had to ask it was a no go. It's an attraction thing really or they are so ashamed because let's be frank "they suck dick for a living" honestly you don't want to know where her mouth has been. Try and make out, if she doesn't want to, another girl will. Sometimes girls will toss your salad without asking bro, it's real life (luck of the draw). IMHO.