Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Sobe69;2848548]Have not been to the Tampa strip club scene in years. Last visit there was a 5 feet away law or something years ago. Is Mons still the spot? I'm actually with the significant other so looking for somewhere couple friendly where she won't see something in the back room that could get me banned from clubs LOL. Where we live there is no play in the clubs there and it's pretty tame![/QUOTE]I'm confused, because you say at your clubs at home there is no play and they are lame, but you're actually asking for a place that has no play so you don't get into trouble with your SO who will be with you? Am I correct?

If you want no play then Mons is your spot because they have no back rooms.

Thanks sent you a PM to clarify.

[QUOTE=DrPotato;2848559]I'm confused, because you say at your clubs at home there is no play and they are lame, but you're actually asking for a place that has no play so you don't get into trouble with your SO who will be with you? Am I correct?

If you want no play then Mons is your spot because they have no back rooms.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sobe69;2848548]Have not been to the Tampa strip club scene in years. Last visit there was a 5 feet away law or something years ago. Is Mons still the spot? I'm actually with the significant other so looking for somewhere couple friendly where she won't see something in the back room that could get me banned from clubs LOL. Where we live there is no play in the clubs there and it's pretty tame![/QUOTE]Me and my SO visited Emperors for the first time earlier in the week. It was Tuesday afternoon so was kinda dead. Only 4 dancers and 3 other older guys besides us. But we managed to chat up the only good looking girl there and ended up doing private dances in the back. She focused most of the attention on SO but it made for a fun time. Would like to see how well a busier club deals with couples though to see if it would be similar experience.

Guys,

My friend visiting, looking for fun (like BJ). Lipstixx is my all time fav. Place, but I don't want to take him there.

Do you guys suggest some places near brandon, adamo, fairgrounds. ?

Read few reviews, looks like Emperor's will meet my needs, can you suggest anything?

Thanks.

Mick.

Define fun. For chilling out and tipping the stage, Gold club. For dances, Scarlett's. For a mostly busted dayshift, Emp's.

Wait... BJs. Scarlett's for a higher chance of action from a dancer you actually want to bang. Emp's for the thrill of the hunt. But you will have to sift through a lot of debris.

[QUOTE=MickyRocky;2852643]Guys,

My friend visiting, looking for fun (like BJ). Lipstixx is my all time fav. Place, but I don't want to take him there.

Do you guys suggest some places near brandon, adamo, fairgrounds. ?

Read few reviews, looks like Emperor's will meet my needs, can you suggest anything?

Thanks.

Mick.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyRaw;2852715]Define fun. For chilling out and tipping the stage, Gold club. For dances, Scarlett's. For a mostly busted dayshift, Emp's.

Wait... BJs. Scarlett's for a higher chance of action from a dancer you actually want to bang. Emp's for the thrill of the hunt. But you will have to sift through a lot of debris.[/QUOTE]Thanks dude! Scarlett is my last option. Is there any sure place to go for other than lipstixxx.

[QUOTE=Roc69;2838554]I was in the area and went and saw a busty Cuban named China. Said she had been working there for 5 days. Speaks English but there was a little lost in the translation. Paid the $ . 22 and she upsold me in the room another. 4 to move on from BBBJ to FS. She was aggressive (in a good way) and the K9 was super enjoyable. Would recommend but I'd be sure to be clear what the donations are in the future. This was my first time there and maybe she took advantage of that.[/QUOTE]Usually $. 22 gets CBJ and CFS. I go there often.

[QUOTE=Rtkucf1;2849542]Me and my SO visited Emperors for the first time earlier in the week. It was Tuesday afternoon so was kinda dead. Only 4 dancers and 3 other older guys besides us. But we managed to chat up the only good looking girl there and ended up doing private dances in the back. She focused most of the attention on SO but it made for a fun time. Would like to see how well a busier club deals with couples though to see if it would be similar experience.[/QUOTE]I've been thinking about taking the SO to Emperors since we've had iffy luck with Atlantis, Bare Assets and a couple in Pasco County. Girls approach sometimes, not always and many are more reserved with a couple in a private dance than they would be with just a guy. Part of it is my problem as I don't want to rush into anything, but it would be helpful if the girls would approach more and let me know if they are game or not.

Had some friends in from out of town recently and they were hell bent on visiting the local titty bars, so I had to oblige. Did some research here on the forum and selected Risqué and Scarlett's Ybor as representatives from each class (alcohol and non-alcohol). We set out on our titty-seeking journey at around 11 pm on a Friday night.

Risqué: Tiny. I thought Mons Venus was tiny, but this place takes the cake. One small stage with an additional end-table like stripper pole for "warm-ups", I guess. What struck me first off was the lack of cleanliness in the place. Cigarette butts littered the floor, as well as a strong smoke / sweat miasma that permeated clothing upon contact. We sat at a small table and a rotten-toothed "waitress" came over to ask for our drink preference. A few beers set us back around $20 or so, unsurprising in strip clubs. That was the last we saw of the waitress in the 2 hours we were there (And yes, I did tip her for the first round). She was still working, just never came back to our table, despite there only being about 6 or 7 other patrons in the joint at any given time. Restrooms were actually pretty clean, with a paid attendant; a bit odd for such a tiny shitter, but eh. My biggest complaint here is that of the 5 or so dancers that we saw in the rotation, NOT ONE ever came over to our table to talk to us or offer up private dances. From what I could tell, they would just hang out up at the bar or around a few obvious regulars. As I began to pay more attention to this fact, I noticed that none of them seemed to want to be there in the first place. I mean not one smile. After a couple hours of this, we wound up leaving earlier than expected. Girls, you really lost out on a great deal of money. I'm a big damned spender.

Scarlett's Ybor: Immediately upon entering this place, I knew we were in a totally different environment than Risqué. I heard thumping music, laughter and conversation even while we were paying our cover charge. The interior is much more spacious and smoke-free. Evidently they have a dedicated "smoking area" upstairs, which keeps the main dance area rather fresh. Dancers and waitresses were far more abundant, as well. We selected a table near the stage and ordered up a round of high-priced Red Bulls. I could tell by the comings and goings in the private dance areas that we were on to something here. Not 5 minutes after we had sat down, I had two dancers hovering over me asking for private dances. Much better vibe. Based on what I've read here in the forum, I selected a smoking hot Latin (probably Cuban) dancer for my first private. My understanding is that you can probably get more mileage from the Cuban girls, and she was beautiful to boot. She escorted me up to the bar, where you pay the $10 club "room fee" & the barmaid tries to get you to buy the girl a drink (I politely declined the offer). I was then led to one of the private booth areas. Several stall-type booths with curtains were available, nice dim lighting. The seats in the stalls were awesome, as I was expecting a metal chair or somesuch and they were actually all outfitted with comfortable padded "wedges", for lack of a better term, that allowed for you to sit and recline while the dancers do their thing. My Cuban hottie immediately lost her top and we began a slow, grinding session. She let my hands fairly roam free, grabbing tits and rubbing her vaj over the bottoms. Second song she removed the bottoms and let me slide my finger across her lips on the outside before pulling away and making a purring noise. Confusing signal, that. I let her continue the grinding / titty grabbing through the third song, with the same results on touching the vaj. End of the third she stood up and thanked me, ready for the donation. No extras. Strike #1, but I was unfazed. I selected a pretty stout (not fat, just Amazonian) white girl for my second chance. Pretty much the same routine, though she told me that if I wanted to touch the vaj, it was $$ . 5 for 30 minutes in the VIP room. I passed. By now pretty damn horny, I selected a tall, full figured and tanned blonde. I had seen her doing chain-private dances and took this to be a good sign. Bingo. Before I knew it, we were naked in a booth with two of my fingers inside her while she stroked my cock through the leg of my shorts. I asked about upgrades and she held up 2 fingers. Assuming this was $$ for FS, I accepted (actually the upcharge was $ . 5 if you take into consideration the private dance itself was already. 5). She asked for the donation upfront as I unzipped Mr. Happy. Already rock hard from her ministrations, she slipped on a cover and began a CBJ. It was ok, but I'm just not a fan, covered, unless its fantastic. After a few minutes, I gently pulled on her arms, signaling that I was ready for some CG. She used some spit to wet the vaj, then suddenly tells me: "Sex is more. I thought you just meant for the BJ. ". Assuring her that was definitely not my intention for $$, she finally relented and rode me RCG for a few minutes before I popped in the cover. She redressed, grabbed her things and walked out like she was offended, leaving me there to remove and discard the used cover. Overall, I had a good time, certainly better than at Risqué, but for the cost I think I will stick to my regular girls from BP and the occasional SW.

[QUOTE=Fwiffo;2854194]Had some friends in from out of town recently and they were hell bent on visiting the local titty bars, so I had to oblige. Did some research here on the forum and selected Risqu and Scarlett's Ybor as representatives from each class (alcohol and non-alcohol). We set out on our titty-seeking journey at around 11 pm on a Friday night.

Risqu: Tiny. I thought Mons Venus was tiny, but this place takes the cake. One small stage with an additional end-table like stripper pole for "warm-ups", I guess. What struck me first off was the lack of cleanliness in the place. Cigarette butts littered the floor, as well as a strong smoke / sweat miasma that permeated clothing upon contact. We sat at a small table and a rotten-toothed "waitress" came over to ask for our drink preference. A few beers set us back around $20 or so, unsurprising in strip clubs. That was the last we saw of the waitress in the 2 hours we were there (And yes, I did tip her for the first round). She was still working, just never came back to our table, despite there only being about 6 or 7 other patrons in the joint at any given time. Restrooms were actually pretty clean, with a paid attendant; a bit odd for such a tiny shitter, but eh. My biggest complaint here is that of the 5 or so dancers that we saw in the rotation, NOT ONE ever came over to our table to talk to us or offer up private dances. From what I could tell, they would just hang out up at the bar or around a few obvious regulars. As I began to pay more attention to this fact, I noticed that none of them seemed to want to be there in the first place. I mean not one smile. After a couple hours of this, we wound up leaving earlier than expected. Girls, you really lost out on a great deal of money. I'm a big damned spender.

Scarlett's Ybor: Immediately upon entering this place, I knew we were in a totally different environment than Risqu. I heard thumping music, laughter and conversation even while we were paying our cover charge. The interior is much more spacious and smoke-free. Evidently they have a dedicated "smoking area" upstairs, which keeps the main dance area rather fresh. Dancers and waitresses were far more abundant, as well. We selected a table near the stage and ordered up a round of high-priced Red Bulls. I could tell by the comings and goings in the private dance areas that we were on to something here. Not 5 minutes after we had sat down, I had two dancers hovering over me asking for private dances. Much better vibe. Based on what I've read here in the forum, I selected a smoking hot Latin (probably Cuban) dancer for my first private. My understanding is that you can probably get more mileage from the Cuban girls, and she was beautiful to boot. She escorted me up to the bar, where you pay the $10 club "room fee" & the barmaid tries to get you to buy the girl a drink (I politely declined the offer). I was then led to one of the private booth areas. Several stall-type booths with curtains were available, nice dim lighting. The seats in the stalls were awesome, as I was expecting a metal chair or somesuch and they were actually all outfitted with comfortable padded "wedges", for lack of a better term, that allowed for you to sit and recline while the dancers do their thing. My Cuban hottie immediately lost her top and we began a slow, grinding session. She let my hands fairly roam free, grabbing tits and rubbing her vaj over the bottoms. Second song she removed the bottoms and let me slide my finger across her lips on the outside before pulling away and making a purring noise. Confusing signal, that. I let her continue the grinding / titty grabbing through the third song, with the same results on touching the vaj. End of the third she stood up and thanked me, ready for the donation. No extras. Strike #1, but I was unfazed. I selected a pretty stout (not fat, just Amazonian) white girl for my second chance. Pretty much the same routine, though she told me that if I wanted to touch the vaj, it was $$ . 5 for 30 minutes in the VIP room. I passed. By now pretty damn horny, I selected a tall, full figured and tanned blonde. I had seen her doing chain-private dances and took this to be a good sign. Bingo. Before I knew it, we were naked in a booth with two of my fingers inside her while she stroked my cock through the leg of my shorts. I asked about upgrades and she held up 2 fingers. Assuming this was $$ for FS, I accepted (actually the upcharge was $ . 5 if you take into consideration the private dance itself was already. 5). She asked for the donation upfront as I unzipped Mr. Happy. Already rock hard from her ministrations, she slipped on a cover and began a CBJ. It was ok, but I'm just not a fan, covered, unless its fantastic. After a few minutes, I gently pulled on her arms, signaling that I was ready for some CG. She used some spit to wet the vaj, then suddenly tells me: "Sex is more. I thought you just meant for the BJ. ". Assuring her that was definitely not my intention for $$, she finally relented and rode me RCG for a few minutes before I popped in the cover. She redressed, grabbed her things and walked out like she was offended, leaving me there to remove and discard the used cover. Overall, I had a good time, certainly better than at Risqu, but for the cost I think I will stick to my regular girls from BP and the occasional SW.[/QUOTE]Still way too much but at least you were persuasive and got what you thought you negotiated for. Specifically to YS, it is ok to be very direct about the type of fun you want. No need to be vague as 1) girls have heard it all before and those that perform won't be offended and 2) some will take advantage and try to not perform to vague expectations. Finally, after you agree to a price, show her the money and that you have it but don't pay the tip until you are left satisfied. Once the money is in her hands, you may not get what you wanted. So use my wasted dollars in experience to your benefit.

Also did a quick flyby Club Risque and got the same experience as previous posters. Didn't stay long as was dead and there are better options elsewhere.

[QUOTE=TimBones;2854085]I've been thinking about taking the SO to Emperors since we've had iffy luck with Atlantis, Bare Assets and a couple in Pasco County. Girls approach sometimes, not always and many are more reserved with a couple in a private dance than they would be with just a guy. Part of it is my problem as I don't want to rush into anything, but it would be helpful if the girls would approach more and let me know if they are game or not.[/QUOTE]Yea we didn't rush at all. We sat at the bar and took it all in for a bit. I let my SO chat it up with the dancer and get comfy. Then she told me when she was ready for the private dances and off we went. There was another dancer there that kept telling is she dances for couples all the time but we weren't interested in her so didn't partake. But the female manager on duty was very cool about things and was excited to see a female customer there.

[QUOTE=Fwiffo;2854194]Had some friends in from out of town recently and they were hell bent on visiting the local titty bars, so I had to oblige. Did some research here on the forum and selected Risqu and Scarlett's Ybor as representatives from each class (alcohol and non-alcohol). We set out on our titty-seeking journey at around 11 pm on a Friday night.

Risqu: Tiny. I thought Mons Venus was tiny, but this place takes the cake. One small stage with an additional end-table like stripper pole for "warm-ups", I guess. What struck me first off was the lack of cleanliness in the place. Cigarette butts littered the floor, as well as a strong smoke / sweat miasma that permeated clothing upon contact. We sat at a small table and a rotten-toothed "waitress" came over to ask for our drink preference. A few beers set us back around $20 or so, unsurprising in strip clubs. That was the last we saw of the waitress in the 2 hours we were there (And yes, I did tip her for the first round). She was still working, just never came back to our table, despite there only being about 6 or 7 other patrons in the joint at any given time. Restrooms were actually pretty clean, with a paid attendant; a bit odd for such a tiny shitter, but eh. My biggest complaint here is that of the 5 or so dancers that we saw in the rotation, NOT ONE ever came over to our table to talk to us or offer up private dances. From what I could tell, they would just hang out up at the bar or around a few obvious regulars. As I began to pay more attention to this fact, I noticed that none of them seemed to want to be there in the first place. I mean not one smile. After a couple hours of this, we wound up leaving earlier than expected. Girls, you really lost out on a great deal of money. I'm a big damned spender.

Scarlett's Ybor: Immediately upon entering this place, I knew we were in a totally different environment than Risqu. I heard thumping music, laughter and conversation even while we were paying our cover charge. The interior is much more spacious and smoke-free. Evidently they have a dedicated "smoking area" upstairs, which keeps the main dance area rather fresh. Dancers and waitresses were far more abundant, as well. We selected a table near the stage and ordered up a round of high-priced Red Bulls. I could tell by the comings and goings in the private dance areas that we were on to something here. Not 5 minutes after we had sat down, I had two dancers hovering over me asking for private dances. Much better vibe. Based on what I've read here in the forum, I selected a smoking hot Latin (probably Cuban) dancer for my first private. My understanding is that you can probably get more mileage from the Cuban girls, and she was beautiful to boot. She escorted me up to the bar, where you pay the $10 club "room fee" & the barmaid tries to get you to buy the girl a drink (I politely declined the offer). I was then led to one of the private booth areas. Several stall-type booths with curtains were available, nice dim lighting. The seats in the stalls were awesome, as I was expecting a metal chair or somesuch and they were actually all outfitted with comfortable padded "wedges", for lack of a better term, that allowed for you to sit and recline while the dancers do their thing. My Cuban hottie immediately lost her top and we began a slow, grinding session. She let my hands fairly roam free, grabbing tits and rubbing her vaj over the bottoms. Second song she removed the bottoms and let me slide my finger across her lips on the outside before pulling away and making a purring noise. Confusing signal, that. I let her continue the grinding / titty grabbing through the third song, with the same results on touching the vaj. End of the third she stood up and thanked me, ready for the donation. No extras. Strike #1, but I was unfazed. I selected a pretty stout (not fat, just Amazonian) white girl for my second chance. Pretty much the same routine, though she told me that if I wanted to touch the vaj, it was $$ . 5 for 30 minutes in the VIP room. I passed. By now pretty damn horny, I selected a tall, full figured and tanned blonde. I had seen her doing chain-private dances and took this to be a good sign. Bingo. Before I knew it, we were naked in a booth with two of my fingers inside her while she stroked my cock through the leg of my shorts. I asked about upgrades and she held up 2 fingers. Assuming this was $$ for FS, I accepted (actually the upcharge was $ . 5 if you take into consideration the private dance itself was already. 5). She asked for the donation upfront as I unzipped Mr. Happy. Already rock hard from her ministrations, she slipped on a cover and began a CBJ. It was ok, but I'm just not a fan, covered, unless its fantastic. After a few minutes, I gently pulled on her arms, signaling that I was ready for some CG. She used some spit to wet the vaj, then suddenly tells me: "Sex is more. I thought you just meant for the BJ. ". Assuring her that was definitely not my intention for $$, she finally relented and rode me RCG for a few minutes before I popped in the cover. She redressed, grabbed her things and walked out like she was offended, leaving me there to remove and discard the used cover. Overall, I had a good time, certainly better than at Risqu, but for the cost I think I will stick to my regular girls from BP and the occasional SW.[/QUOTE]Scarlett's has an UPSTAIRS? Never heard that. Wow. Been there many times. But if this is correct, really glad to hear the smoking is moved upstairs. Love my strip club visits but hate leaving smelling like an ashtray. Also, do you happen to remember the name of the tall blonde?

I know it's been mentioned in the past that they are some hot latin girls at YS that do extras. I'm looking for the 411. Names &/ or description, donation amount, best time / day / shift. I'm particularly looking for a good busty girl. Though I am particularly interested in Latinas at YS I am open to any good busty girl (latin or not) in any of the Tampa clubs. Feel free to PM me.

Up from FM and just in town for the night and stopped in at YS. Place was pretty empty.

Offered dances by each of the three dancers that night. Took Mercedes up on offer.

Standard deal 3 dances for. 5 plus. 1 for stall. Great talker, fun personality and large naturals. She.

Seemed to like to cover them when not dancing, but I found them great (large and natural). Alas, no extras available (at least to me LOL).

No touching below. Fun but probably better mileage with others. Did have an offer of OTC from another blonde and may consider for a future visit.

Did not get to negotiations so don't know the rate.

The place had completely emptied out before I left and with just me the only customer, nobody was dancing.

Also the definition of "a song" time seems to be variable. All in all, with cover, drink charge and room fee, it seems a little pricey as others have said.

I'm thinking bodyrub girls or AMPs might be a better deal for the next trip.

[QUOTE=Funsl;2856907]Up from FM and just in town for the night and stopped in at YS. Place was pretty empty.

Offered dances by each of the three dancers that night. Took Mercedes up on offer.

Standard deal 3 dances for. 5 plus. 1 for stall. Great talker, fun personality and large naturals. She.

Seemed to like to cover them when not dancing, but I found them great (large and natural). Alas, no extras available (at least to me LOL).

No touching below. Fun but probably better mileage with others. Did have an offer of OTC from another blonde and may consider for a future visit.

Did not get to negotiations so don't know the rate.

The place had completely emptied out before I left and with just me the only customer, nobody was dancing.

Also the definition of "a song" time seems to be variable. All in all, with cover, drink charge and room fee, it seems a little pricey as others have said.

I'm thinking bodyrub girls or AMPs might be a better deal for the next trip.[/QUOTE]Yes Mercedes does no xtras. Waist of time avoid her.

Hit up Scarlett's last night for one helluva good time. Expensive. Well worth it for stress relief alone. I got there relatively early, around 8:30 or so and there were only a few patrons & dancers in the joint. I picked an advantageous table, ordered up a $7 Red Bull and settled in to people watch.

As is gloriously the case at SY, I was soon approached by a lovely ebony dancer named "Princess". She related to me that she travels around the country dancing, as a lot of the strippers do. Finding her intelligent and eloquent as well as smoking hot, I elected to try out her private dances at 3 songs for the usual. 5 donation. I was NOT disappointed. Very relieved at the end of my 6-song set.

Back to my overpriced Red Bulls.

I chit-chatted with the majority of dancers on duty throughout the night, attempting to sort the gems from the chattel. My observations are that "Mercedes" indeed doesn't offer jack shit with her private dances. You can grab her boobs, but that's it. No sucking on them, no kissing anything, no touching of the vaj whatsoever. She's cute with nice, natural big titties but not worth a private. I also did privates with a few other dancers, though I am so bad at remembering names (they probably change weekly, anyway). One of the sturdy Amazon blondes was completely surprised that extras were even offered in the club, so strike out there. Another chunky white chic with long hair and glasses was willing to go CBJ for $, but I declined. Yet another tattoed bottle blonde was willing to go for extras, but only for the $$ . 5 champagne room dance.

I struck gold with one of the freaking hot Cuban dancers. Can't recall her name, but you will know her when you see her. Collagen-enhanced lips, nice man-made tits, long legs, long black hair and a nice set of pussy lips on her as well. She intimated that we would have a great deal of fun in the VIP room for the 30-minute private rate while we were in the booth together, so a bit later in the evening I pulled the trigger. I was definitely not disappointed, either. As I noticed 5 hours had passed, I dragged my weary ass out to the car and headed for home.

Poorer, but extremely smug and satisfied with my nocturnal adventure.

I dropped in to record a very positive review for her, but the gent ahead of me beat me to it. We were having a great time and totally lost track of dances. She let me select my fee. If you like her look, give her a try and see how she likes you. She's an auto go-to now if she's there, though if Raven is there I'd have to think about which one would be least offended that I'd chosen the other. Fortunately, I don't think they work the same shifts.

Visiting the area yesterday and today. Frustrated at my earlier fails, I stopped in at YS.

Met a cute Cubana named Diana, or DeeAnna. What is it with me running into girls named Diana tonight?

She had perfect, smooth, light brown skin, dark brown hair. She was about 5 ft 4 in, with bouncy C cup boobies, and cute pierced nipples.

Got a $20 dance from her behind the shear curtain. After warming me up, rubbing me through my pants, she asked me what I wanted. I said I wanted whatever she could do, just pull me out and do something. She said $300. I apologized and said I did not have that much. She offered $200. I again apologized and said I did not want to rip her off and we should just finished the dance. She said, no, you deserve a good time, how about $150. I said, OK with a smile on my face. Really enthusiastic HJ, with 30 seconds of SS, which I did not expect, finishing with more HJ, and her rubbing her cooch the whole time. Wow. Just wow. I think I was in there for 2 songs. Cleaned up with a napkin. Did not really plan ahead. LOL

She is a hustler, but funny and fun to be with.

Hey. Not sure if this is the right place but what the hell. I used to frequent the Pink Pony a LOT in the early 00's. Man what a good time that was. Got married and pumped the brakes for a while but now that's over so I'm diving back in.

Just curious if anyone remembers those days and maybe even knows what became of some of those girls. Tina, Pandora, Destiny, Angel. I doubt any of them are still working but if they are I'd love to know so I could take a trip down memory lane. Especially Tina. I'll gladly report back if you guys have any intel and any of those old school ladies or any I forgot to mention from the Pony back then.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=MojoMan;2882911]Visiting the area yesterday and today. Frustrated at my earlier fails, I stopped in at YS.

Met a cute Cubana named Diana, or DeeAnna. What is it with me running into girls named Diana tonight?

She had perfect, smooth, light brown skin, dark brown hair. She was about 5 ft 4 in, with bouncy C cup boobies, and cute pierced nipples.

Got a $20 dance from her behind the shear curtain. After warming me up, rubbing me through my pants, she asked me what I wanted. I said I wanted whatever she could do, just pull me out and do something. She said $300. I apologized and said I did not have that much. She offered $200. I again apologized and said I did not want to rip her off and we should just finished the dance. She said, no, you deserve a good time, how about $150. I said, OK with a smile on my face. Really enthusiastic HJ, with 30 seconds of SS, which I did not expect, finishing with more HJ, and her rubbing her cooch the whole time. Wow. Just wow. I think I was in there for 2 songs. Cleaned up with a napkin. Did not really plan ahead. LOL

She is a hustler, but funny and fun to be with.[/QUOTE]I think she is from PR not Cuba, but worth dancing with.

[QUOTE=IzzyG;2883760]Hey. Not sure if this is the right place but what the hell. I used to frequent the Pink Pony a LOT in the early 00's. Man what a good time that was. Got married and pumped the brakes for a while but now that's over so I'm diving back in.

Just curious if anyone remembers those days and maybe even knows what became of some of those girls. Tina, Pandora, Destiny, Angel. I doubt any of them are still working but if they are I'd love to know so I could take a trip down memory lane. Especially Tina. I'll gladly report back if you guys have any intel and any of those old school ladies or any I forgot to mention from the Pony back then.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Those were some of the best times I've EVER had in a club. The stuff going on in the back room was hilarious. I sure miss those days. I haven't kept in touch with any of the girls. It was never the same after it burnt down.

[QUOTE=TwoBit;2895566]There was a girl that danced at Mons for a day or two named Kylie or Kaylee. She was in her early 20's with dark hair and huge nipples, anyone know if she's still there?[/QUOTE]Don't know if it's the same one you're talking about. There was a Kay at YS last night. Small little thing with large nips. She said she was at Mons over the past few weeks.

My understanding is that the way it works at most of these clubs, the girls basically pay a fee for the right to dance there.

Doesn't this make them more of an independent vendor that's renting space in the club, rather than an employee?

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Visiting from Orlando and all I can say is WOW!! Mons Venus was the spot tonight. Beautiful girls, especially an ebony goddess who said she's from Vegas here for the summer. If anyone knows her name, please remind me. She got quite a few dances from me and it was worth it!

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2896733]My understanding is that the way it works at most of these clubs, the girls basically pay a fee for the right to dance there.

Doesn't this make them more of an independent vendor that's renting space in the club, rather than an employee?

[URL]http://www.tbo.com/news/crime/dancers-sue-tampa-strip-club-for-unpaid-wages-20160428/[/URL][/QUOTE]That's certainly the way the clubs would like to have and keep it. But labor law is a little more strict. It's can be especially so if you own a brick & mortar business.

Be honest. Would you go to a strip club or stay long if there were no dancers there? Probably not. So if the club requires dancers to be there during business hours, the they can technically be considered employees and not independent contractors.

Scarlett's recently settled a similar lawsuit, reaching an agreement to essentially pay back pay to any dancers who worked at any of the Scarlett's clubs in a certain time frame. Suits like these are becoming commonplace. Uber is in a similar suit arguing whether their drivers are contractors or employees based on drivers not having any control over what they charge for a ride.

[QUOTE=Pacer317;2897593]That's certainly the way the clubs would like to have and keep it. But labor law is a little more strict. It's can be especially so if you own a brick & mortar business.

Be honest. Would you go to a strip club or stay long if there were no dancers there? Probably not. So if the club requires dancers to be there during business hours, the they can technically be considered employees and not independent contractors.

Scarlett's recently settled a similar lawsuit, reaching an agreement to essentially pay back pay to any dancers who worked at any of the Scarlett's clubs in a certain time frame. Suits like these are becoming commonplace. Uber is in a similar suit arguing whether their drivers are contractors or employees based on drivers not having any control over what they charge for a ride.[/QUOTE]Clubs should diversify, and also call their businesses dance studios giving girls some work skills. Pay the greedy chicks and then take it right back from them for dance classes. Most of them need dance lessons, pay the good dancers more to be instructors.

[QUOTE=Pacer317;2897593]That's certainly the way the clubs would like to have and keep it. But labor law is a little more strict. It's can be especially so if you own a brick & mortar business.
Be honest. Would you go to a strip club or stay long if there were no dancers there? Probably not. So if the club requires dancers to be there during business hours, the they can technically be considered employees and not independent contractors.
[/QUOTE]I understand where you're coming from, but I think that would come down to the courts interpretation of "required" to be present at work. Most dancers have told me they don't have to be there, it's just that there is a "fee" required in certain cases, for example showing up after a certain hour, then leaving before closing time. For example coming to work before 8 pm, leave early if you want with no penalty, but come after that and there's a fee for leaving before closing time.

I'm not sure that's any different than something like a hair salon renting out chairs to independent stylists who rent the chairs. The owner doesn't want a stylist to schedule a chair rental, then not show up, because they could have rented the chair to someone else that day. Not much different than canceling a routine dentist appointment with inadequate notice, the dentist might reserve the right to charge a fee because they lost money on the no-show. I'm not saying hair salons even usually rent that way (some do but I think weekly rental fee is more common), but some do.

In other words the purpose of the penalty is simply for scheduling sanity and to prevent the business owner from getting screwed on over/under scheduling issues by wacky ladies changing their mind too much or leaving early for takeout or whatever.

I guess a lawyer could spin that to sound the same as an employee / employer relationship, but with lawyers of equal skill on the side of the strip club, I think they would lose.

Then again put it in front of a judge who has a problem with strip clubs and would like to see them go away, and I suppose anything is possible.

Been going there for many years on and off when I am in town. Went back during a week night last week and met a cute ebony girl. Forget her name. No real contact but very sweet. Enjoyed the private dance. She seems to draw out the experience to encourage more dances. A guess.

Had a fun time in a private dance with a blond named Vicky (Down to earth and doesn't take herself too seriously which is great.

Saw a taller blond named Taylor (?) Attractive but I did not dance with her. Curious about her private performances.

Then there was a tattooed girl with thick blond streaked hair. Can't remember her name either. She had a sensual way about her but I did not get a chance to partake.

Will be going back a few more times in the next few weeks or months. Anyone have some reports on these fine girls or any recommendations would be appreciated. I do my own research but find that the players often change since the time they are posted about in the forum. Thanks.

[QUOTE=LazyBones;2899855]Been going there for many years on and off when I am in town. Went back during a week night last week and met a cute ebony girl. Forget her name. No real contact but very sweet. Enjoyed the private dance. She seems to draw out the experience to encourage more dances. A guess.
Had a fun time in a private dance with a blond named Vicky (Down to earth and doesn't take herself too seriously which is great.
Saw a taller blond named Taylor (?) Attractive but I did not dance with her. Curious about her private performances.
Then there was a tattooed girl with thick blond streaked hair. Can't remember her name either. She had a sensual way about her but I did not get a chance to partake.
Will be going back a few more times in the next few weeks or months. Anyone have some reports on these fine girls or any recommendations would be appreciated. I do my own research but find that the players often change since the time they are posted about in the forum. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Taylor is a dud unless you want to pay her to sit there on your lap for the song. Tells me guys pay her to sit there and talk. Next!

Saw Vicky but never got a dance. Looks real cute and always pleasant and not pushy.

Kendra is a nice time. She's a Southern twang girl. Rosie is a redhead and usually a fun time but all business.

Karmen is a good time. She takes no sh! T. Cracks me up.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2897866]I understand where you're coming from, but I think that would come down to the courts interpretation of "required" to be present at work. Most dancers have told me they don't have to be there, it's just that there is a "fee" required in certain cases, for example showing up after a certain hour, then leaving before closing time. For example coming to work before 8 pm, leave early if you want with no penalty, but come after that and there's a fee for leaving before closing time.

I'm not sure that's any different than something like a hair salon renting out chairs to independent stylists who rent the chairs. The owner doesn't want a stylist to schedule a chair rental, then not show up, because they could have rented the chair to someone else that day. Not much different than canceling a routine dentist appointment with inadequate notice, the dentist might reserve the right to charge a fee because they lost money on the no-show. I'm not saying hair salons even usually rent that way (some do but I think weekly rental fee is more common), but some do.

In other words the purpose of the penalty is simply for scheduling sanity and to prevent the business owner from getting screwed on over/under scheduling issues by wacky ladies changing their mind too much or leaving early for takeout or whatever.

I guess a lawyer could spin that to sound the same as an employee / employer relationship, but with lawyers of equal skill on the side of the strip club, I think they would lose.

Then again put it in front of a judge who has a problem with strip clubs and would like to see them go away, and I suppose anything is possible.[/QUOTE]Your entire post is correct but the last sentence says it all. Despite the dancers qualifying as independent contractors, by any reasonable person's evaluation, ruling them as employees is the courts' way of eliminating strip clubs without the controversy of declaring them illegal. The employee status will end every club that has to do it as these girls can't follow a schedule or even imagine being told what to do.

While I'm not an attorney, I believe the fact that the girls are told when to get up on stage, when they can or can't take a break, and when they are allowed to leave (leave early or arrive late) despite paying the house fee or rent, squarely and accurately makes them employees.

[QUOTE=MikeWazowski;2900616]Your entire post is correct but the last sentence says it all. Despite the dancers qualifying as independent contractors, by any reasonable person's evaluation, ruling them as employees is the courts' way of eliminating strip clubs without the controversy of declaring them illegal. The employee status will end every club that has to do it as these girls can't follow a schedule or even imagine being told what to do.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LazyBones;2899855]Been going there for many years on and off when I am in town. Went back during a week night last week and met a cute ebony girl. Forget her name. No real contact but very sweet. Enjoyed the private dance. She seems to draw out the experience to encourage more dances. A guess.

Had a fun time in a private dance with a blond named Vicky (Down to earth and doesn't take herself too seriously which is great.

Saw a taller blond named Taylor (?) Attractive but I did not dance with her. Curious about her private performances.

Then there was a tattooed girl with thick blond streaked hair. Can't remember her name either. She had a sensual way about her but I did not get a chance to partake.

Will be going back a few more times in the next few weeks or months. Anyone have some reports on these fine girls or any recommendations would be appreciated. I do my own research but find that the players often change since the time they are posted about in the forum. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Taylor sucks. Avoid. Vicky is great.

[QUOTE=Wikip777;2901176]While I'm not an attorney, I believe the fact that the girls are told when to get up on stage, when they can or can't take a break, and when they are allowed to leave (leave early or arrive late) despite paying the house fee or rent, squarely and accurately makes them employees.[/QUOTE]I'm not an attorney either, but personally I can't see that one flying in court. In pretty much any industry I'm aware of, a 1099 independent contractor that does work for a corporation is subject to the exact same rules (often and then some) as the W2 employees of that company, including the business hours they operate under, computer and network policies, etc. Contractors are often held to a higher standard in some companies than what the standard employee handbook policies say. Just like employees, they may be required to show up for meetings in a conference room at a given time, etc. (analogous to the girls being required to get up on stage). Do they HAVE to? No, they can decide they don't want to do business with that client any more at any time. They can't be "fired" in the true sense (stripped of benefits etc) because they brought they fund their own benefits presumably, being independent contractors. But depending on the terms of contract they can be told their services are no longer needed, etc.

I tend to agree with you, but here are a few of the IRS's 20 criteria for defining an independent contractor that seem to feel differently.

1. A worker who is required to comply with instructions about when, where, and how he or she must work is usually an employee.

2. If a worker's services are integrated into business operations, this tends to show that the worker is subject to direction and control and is thus an employee. This is the case particularly when a business's success or continuation depends to a large extent on the performance of certain services.

3. If a worker's services must be rendered personally, there is a presumption that the employer is interested in the methods by which the services are accomplished as well as in the result, making the worker an employee.

4. A continuing relationship between a worker and an employer, even at irregular intervals, tends to show an employer-employee relationship.

5. An employer who sets specific hours of work for a worker exhibits control over the worker, indicating that the worker is an employee.

6. If a worker is working substantially full-time for an employer, the worker is presumably not free to do work for other employers and is therefore an employee.

7. Work performed on an employer's premises suggests the employer's control over a worker, making the worker an employee. If a worker is required to perform services in an order or sequence set by an employer, the employer has control over the worker that demonstrates an employer-employee relationship.

8. An employer's right to discharge a worker tends to show that the worker is an employee.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2901899]I'm not an attorney either, but personally I can't see that one flying in court. In pretty much any industry I'm aware of, a 1099 independent contractor that does work for a corporation is subject to the exact same rules (often and then some) as the W2 employees of that company, including the business hours they operate under, computer and network policies, etc. Contractors are often held to a higher standard in some companies than what the standard employee handbook policies say. Just like employees, they may be required to show up for meetings in a conference room at a given time, etc. (analogous to the girls being required to get up on stage). Do they HAVE to? No, they can decide they don't want to do business with that client any more at any time. They can't be "fired" in the true sense (stripped of benefits etc) because they brought they fund their own benefits presumably, being independent contractors. But depending on the terms of contract they can be told their services are no longer needed, etc.[/QUOTE]

The issue I see however is that the IRS rules are designed for one purpose only, to determine taxation. A case like this would more likely be subject to scrutiny by the US Dept. Of Labor or Florida specific labor laws, not the IRS. Unless something about the class action lawsuit came up that involved sketchy / faulty payment of taxes, the IRS would have zero skin in this game.

At this link are the Florida classification rules that would most likely be used: [URL]http://dor.myflorida.com/dor/taxes/rt_employee.html[/URL].

If I look at those items 1-10, subjectively I feel that the typical stripper arrangement is more like that of an independent contractor. Objectively, even without being a lawyer, I could do a pretty good job of rationalizing how a stripper meets the criteria for an independent contractor, in or out of a courtroom. A real attorney or more convincing speaker might beat me in court, but my point is there is a great deal of ambiguity.

For example:

"(5) Whether the employer or the worker supplies the instrumentalities (for example: equipment, vehicle, materials), tools, and the place of work for the person doing the work. Independent contractors are generally expected to provide or purchase everything they need to do the job. Employees are not expected to provide their own workplace, materials, tools, and supplies, or to otherwise invest their own money in the business. ".

Well I think most dancers pay for their own breast implants, outfits, shoes and panties, the rest of their "supplies" are their natural assets that they own, they are not property of the hiring business. But then another lawyer might come along and say they need a stage or a pole or the music of a DJ to do what they do. Its important to think about what that rule is really designed to do... it's not designed to nitpick over pre-existing written contracts and classification of contractor vs employee, it's designed to keep businesses from taking advantage of those who are clearly employees by forcing them to purchase their own business equipment (holding them hostage, i.e. "buy your own laptop for work or you're fired"... that sort of thing).

It could be debated ad infinitum, but at the end of it all the rules say it's going to come down to whatever written agreement was decided between the parties, unless it is decided that the written agreement is too contradictory to the basic classification rules. That's the way it works in most states, the written contract the girls signed will generally take precedence unless someone can really prove that it flew directly in the face of existing laws, and I think reading through those 1-10 items, one could agree that's going to be a real challenge as long as the lawyers the strip club hires are reasonably competent.

[QUOTE=Wikip777;2902647]I tend to agree with you, but here are a few of the IRS's 20 criteria for defining an independent contractor that seem to feel differently.

1. A worker who is required to comply with instructions about when, where, and how he or she must work is usually an employee.

2. If a worker's services are integrated into business operations, this tends to show that the worker is subject to direction and control and is thus an employee. This is the case particularly when a business's success or continuation depends to a large extent on the performance of certain services.

3. If a worker's services must be rendered personally, there is a presumption that the employer is interested in the methods by which the services are accomplished as well as in the result, making the worker an employee.

4. A continuing relationship between a worker and an employer, even at irregular intervals, tends to show an employer-employee relationship.

5. An employer who sets specific hours of work for a worker exhibits control over the worker, indicating that the worker is an employee.

6. If a worker is working substantially full-time for an employer, the worker is presumably not free to do work for other employers and is therefore an employee.

7. Work performed on an employer's premises suggests the employer's control over a worker, making the worker an employee. If a worker is required to perform services in an order or sequence set by an employer, the employer has control over the worker that demonstrates an employer-employee relationship.

8. An employer's right to discharge a worker tends to show that the worker is an employee.[/QUOTE]

Very good points, JeezLizard. It's nice to have some civilized discourse on the internet. Hard to come by lately. Cheers.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2903233]The issue I see however is that the IRS rules are designed for one purpose only, to determine taxation. A case like this would more likely be subject to scrutiny by the US Dept. Of Labor or Florida specific labor laws, not the IRS. Unless something about the class action lawsuit came up that involved sketchy / faulty payment of taxes, the IRS would have zero skin in this game.

At this link are the Florida classification rules that would most likely be used: [URL]http://dor.myflorida.com/dor/taxes/rt_employee.html[/URL].

If I look at those items 1-10, subjectively I feel that the typical stripper arrangement is more like that of an independent contractor. Objectively, even without being a lawyer, I could do a pretty good job of rationalizing how a stripper meets the criteria for an independent contractor, in or out of a courtroom. A real attorney or more convincing speaker might beat me in court, but my point is there is a great deal of ambiguity.

For example:

"(5) Whether the employer or the worker supplies the instrumentalities (for example: equipment, vehicle, materials), tools, and the place of work for the person doing the work. Independent contractors are generally expected to provide or purchase everything they need to do the job. Employees are not expected to provide their own workplace, materials, tools, and supplies, or to otherwise invest their own money in the business. ".

Well I think most dancers pay for their own breast implants, outfits, shoes and panties, the rest of their "supplies" are their natural assets that they own, they are not property of the hiring business. But then another lawyer might come along and say they need a stage or a pole or the music of a DJ to do what they do. Its important to think about what that rule is really designed to do... it's not designed to nitpick over pre-existing written contracts and classification of contractor vs employee, it's designed to keep businesses from taking advantage of those who are clearly employees by forcing them to purchase their own business equipment (holding them hostage, i.e. "buy your own laptop for work or you're fired"... that sort of thing).

It could be debated ad infinitum, but at the end of it all the rules say it's going to come down to whatever written agreement was decided between the parties, unless it is decided that the written agreement is too contradictory to the basic classification rules. That's the way it works in most states, the written contract the girls signed will generally take precedence unless someone can really prove that it flew directly in the face of existing laws, and I think reading through those 1-10 items, one could agree that's going to be a real challenge as long as the lawyers the strip club hires are reasonably competent.[/QUOTE]

In an industry I am involved in, where all of the workers were independent contractors for workmans comp issues, it was the IRS that went after businesses to switch them to employees. Easy to write off against self employment tax, hard to avoid withholding.

[QUOTE=ParkerAve;2904713]In an industry I am involved in, where all of the workers were independent contractors for workmans comp issues, it was the IRS that went after businesses to switch them to employees. Easy to write off against self employment tax, hard to avoid withholding.[/QUOTE]I'm not saying the IRS wouldn't do it in cases where there's an opportunity for them to increase their tax collection opportunities. I'm just saying in this particular case the dancers have formed a class action lawsuit that doesn't really seem to benefit the IRS as far as I can see, so the IRS would be disinclined to lift a finger in this case.

Because of the risks of coming out of this with nothing, I'm actually surprised a lawyer would take this case on unless trading pro-bono for pro-boner. LOL. Legal services for free hummers.

One of those broads is 46 years old, do you think maybe she's figured out she's done as a dancer and would like to milk the cow for what she can? That's how I would look at it if I were a judge (but yes, it's probably a good thing that not all judges are chauvinistic like me...).

Part of the lawsuit said something about wanting $280 k for using their photos without authorization. They might have a valid case there, for all I know. That will probably come down to how many photos they can prove were lifted without authorization, and how much they evidence they can provide of prior per-photo payment for their modeling services (or some other quantifiable metric). But there's another part of the case that brings into question the classification of independent contractor status vs. employee status, and in my opinion they have a better chance at winning the lottery, meanwhile some crusty lawyer somewhere is probably getting service-for-service quid-pro-quo action from some has-been dancers that have overvalued themselves.