Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=DNut;5103514]Actually, only 8% of the budget (about $380 billion) goes to safety net programs, so it's really 2. 4% of your pay that goes to help people in need. That is about half of the $780 Billion per year corporate tax cuts passed into law in 2017. Repeal those cuts, and you will have more than enough money to fund safety net programs without affecting your paycheck.[/QUOTE]I pay about 30% of my check into SSI, FICA, MEDICAD or whatever they call it now! More then likely I will not get what is owed to me from SSI! I have to work to pay 1200 a month in health insurance for my family. Then pay all of the out of pocket stuff on top of it! I worked in Avondale for a few years in retail. I made some friends over the years there that were 3rd,4th and 5th generation on the public tit! All very capable of working, but all raised to take advantage of the system and programs! As I said all left / center / right folks think they have a say on the national level, when they barely have a say on a local level. Think about this, if you would. In Cincinnati 80% of the population rents their living space. Those 80% have a larger say in what a property owner pays in taxes. I don't have an issue helping those that really need a hand up and out of poverty or a bad situation at all. However, I do believe that if a person is able to do something with a useful skill, then a few years in the military would be a great way up and out of their issues. As I was taught, teach a man to fish is better then giving a man a fish daily!

[QUOTE=BelowMe;5104120]It goes to the Supreme Court where Trump just put 3 conservative judges. If they rule that PA, GA, MI changed election laws against the constitution (without a vote) or that they prove fraud with mail in voting, programmed election machines that changed votes they can invalidate the election. At that point it goes to congress where one elector per state votes along party lines for the president, and the Senate picks THE VP. It helps that 30 states are republican majority while 19 are run by Dems. If it goes this far Trump will win and it would be the 3rd time in our history that this has happened.[/QUOTE]America just wonders whether you MAGA Cucks are more eager to lick the leaking hair dye off Ghouliani's ugly face or sip whatever lies and delusions drip out of Loser Trump's shriveled 3-inch cock??

Peoples Temple of Jonestown or the Red Hat Retards, there really is no difference between these low IQ brainwashed pieces of shit.

[QUOTE=Daddy4U;5103003]Anyone that would vote for a senile idiot like sleepy Joe is a retard. Just wait until his master China invades Taiwan.

Because you know it's coming. Know telling what Russia, Iran and North Korea will do with Joe calling the shots. He will be worse then Jimmy Carter. Remember Jimmy he gave away the Panama Canal let the Shah of Iran fall to the radical Islamic. How is that working out for us? As far as anyone putting a gun in their mouth it will be the retarded Biden voter.

The only problem is someone will need to show them how to load and pull the trigger.

I'm sure there will be plenty of people help them.[/QUOTE]Tis better to be mentally handicapped and vote for Biden who has some common sense than be a person with common sense who voted for Trump who is most definitely mentally handicapped.

Trumps is a piece of shit and his cult are too. Biden will keep funneling money to the military industrial complex instead of taking care of the needs of working Americans, that's what they do. At least decency and sanity will be restored on the world stage, but I think the shit stain trump left in America's whitey tighties ain't coming out. Even with bleach. People won't forget that we elect folks like GW Bush and trump on a regular basis and the sane leadership is probably a fluke rather than the norm. On our side they have idiots too. We are the fat loud selfish folks across the pond. I agree with them, just scroll through the comments anywhere. "We are the BEST!" Ummm, not really.

[QUOTE=BelowMe;5104120]It goes to the Supreme Court where Trump just put 3 conservative judges. If they rule that PA, GA, MI changed election laws against the constitution (without a vote) or that they prove fraud with mail in voting, programmed election machines that changed votes they can invalidate the election. At that point it goes to congress where one elector per state votes along party lines for the president, and the Senate picks THE VP. It helps that 30 states are republican majority while 19 are run by Dems. If it goes this far Trump will win and it would be the 3rd time in our history that this has happened.

So, it ain't over.[/QUOTE]Isn't that sweet. Why, bless your punkin' heart. Want someone to read you some more fairy tales, hun?

[QUOTE=BelowMe;5104120]It goes to the Supreme Court where Trump just put 3 conservative judges. If they rule that PA, GA, MI changed election laws against the constitution (without a vote) or that they prove fraud with mail in voting, programmed election machines that changed votes they can invalidate the election. At that point it goes to congress where one elector per state votes along party lines for the president, and the Senate picks THE VP. It helps that 30 states are republican majority while 19 are run by Dems. If it goes this far Trump will win and it would be the 3rd time in our history that this has happened.

So, it ain't over.[/QUOTE]Below You.

I really like your posts and reviews, Below. But you need a drug test after THAT post.

SMH. (And I'm a Republican).

[QUOTE=Dillsborodave;5104275]Tis better to be mentally handicapped and vote for Biden who has some common sense than be a person with common sense who voted for Trump who is most definitely mentally handicapped.[/QUOTE]Thanks Einstein I knew that would get your attention. Let me take the inventory of a typical Democrat. They are arrogant thinking they are better and smarter then everyone else with a my way or the highway attitude. The truth is they are just assholes like the rest of us.

You should change your name to Lloyd Christmas.

Trust me. It's over. The Supreme's aren't accepting any of these cases.

Edit: You didn't answer my question: Do you honestly think Trump will be President on Jan 21?

[QUOTE=BelowMe;5104120]It goes to the Supreme Court where Trump just put 3 conservative judges. If they rule that PA, GA, MI changed election laws against the constitution (without a vote) or that they prove fraud with mail in voting, programmed election machines that changed votes they can invalidate the election. At that point it goes to congress where one elector per state votes along party lines for the president, and the Senate picks THE VP. It helps that 30 states are republican majority while 19 are run by Dems. If it goes this far Trump will win and it would be the 3rd time in our history that this has happened.

So, it ain't over.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JimJaimes;5104371]Trumps is a piece of shit and his cult are too. Biden will keep funneling money to the military industrial complex instead of taking care of the needs of working Americans, that's what they do. At least decency and sanity will be restored on the world stage, but I think the shit stain trump left in America's whitey tighties ain't coming out. Even with bleach. People won't forget that we elect folks like GW Bush and trump on a regular basis and the sane leadership is probably a fluke rather than the norm. On our side they have idiots too. We are the fat loud selfish folks across the pond. I agree with them, just scroll through the comments anywhere. "We are the BEST!" Ummm, not really.[/QUOTE]Over the last four years I've chatted with a lot of people during travel overseas, and they all think, "you dipshit Americans elected a guy like that once, you'll do it again."

We aren't trustworthy anymore. Well, unless you're Israel and the evangelicals think you have special god status.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5104685]Over the last four years I've chatted with a lot of people during travel overseas, and they all think, "you dipshit Americans elected a guy like that once, you'll do it again."

We aren't trustworthy anymore. Well, unless you're Israel and the evangelicals think you have special god status.[/QUOTE]Well electing Biden is the dumbest of them all.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5104685]Over the last four years I've chatted with a lot of people during travel overseas, and they all think, "you dipshit Americans elected a guy like that once, you'll do it again."

We aren't trustworthy anymore. Well, unless you're Israel and the evangelicals think you have special god status.[/QUOTE]There are 6 billion people in this world. I doubt the few hundred people you have spoken too is enough to form a general consensus of world opinion. With that said I really don't care how other nations feel about our freedoms or lack there of, or quality of life.

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;5104143]I pay about 30% of my check into SSI, FICA, MEDICAD or whatever they call it now! More then likely I will not get what is owed to me from SSI! I have to work to pay 1200 a month in health insurance for my family. Then pay all of the out of pocket stuff on top of it! I worked in Avondale for a few years in retail. I made some friends over the years there that were 3rd,4th and 5th generation on the public tit! All very capable of working, but all raised to take advantage of the system and programs! As I said all left / center / right folks think they have a say on the national level, when they barely have a say on a local level. Think about this, if you would. In Cincinnati 80% of the population rents their living space. Those 80% have a larger say in what a property owner pays in taxes. I don't have an issue helping those that really need a hand up and out of poverty or a bad situation at all. However, I do believe that if a person is able to do something with a useful skill, then a few years in the military would be a great way up and out of their issues. As I was taught, teach a man to fish is better then giving a man a fish daily![/QUOTE]"I don't have an issue helping those that really need a hand up and out of poverty or a bad situation at all. ", is nice little soundbite that doesn't mean squat. Your entire post is against that one phrase. Your disdain for social programs is oozing from every other sentence. You cloak yourself in self-righteousness, while trying to tamp down those already hurting. You're the Christian that puts up, "Love thy neighbor" posters, but have zero problems denying food, healthcare, and housing to those that can't afford it. You one to claim to love America, but hate Americans.

Your social security payments isn't going to other people. That's being deposited into what amounts to a savings account that you will withdraw when you reach that age when you start to draw social security. Same thing with FICA and Medicare. You put in the money now so you won't be a burden to other people when you're old and can no longer earn a living wage. It's insurance for when you can no longer pay that 1200 a month.

[QUOTE=Bullet454;5104847]There are 6 billion people in this world. I doubt the few hundred people you have spoken too is enough to form a general consensus of world opinion. With that said I really don't care how other nations feel about our freedoms or lack there of, or quality of life.[/QUOTE]You probably don't understand much about random sampling, foreign affairs or any of that shit. I doubt we travel in the same socio-economic, educational, or experiential circles either. There's a difference in chatting with people exposed to other cultures and hanging out with your redneck bubbas on your pontoon boat with a trump flag. So just keep on not caring about any of that shit, since it's unlikely you contribute much to the greater conversation anyway.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5105068]You probably don't understand much about random sampling, foreign affairs or any of that shit. I doubt we travel in the same socio-economic, educational, or experiential circles either. There's a difference in chatting with people exposed to other cultures and hanging out with your redneck bubbas on your pontoon boat with a trump flag. So just keep on not caring about any of that shit, since it's unlikely you contribute much to the greater conversation anyway.[/QUOTE]Perfectly stated, Rog.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5105068]You probably don't understand much about random sampling, foreign affairs or any of that shit. I doubt we travel in the same socio-economic, educational, or experiential circles either. There's a difference in chatting with people exposed to other cultures and hanging out with your redneck bubbas on your pontoon boat with a trump flag. So just keep on not caring about any of that shit, since it's unlikely you contribute much to the greater conversation anyway.[/QUOTE]You know nothing about me or my educational background, or who I associate with. Instead you try to insult me to further your point. I have been around all kinds of people rich, royalty, and dirt poor. I have been talking to my friend who lives in Portugal. I don't think they own a pontoon boat though. Tomorrow I will ask the Italians I work if they like trump. I also understand about random sampling that is why I questioned your "I talked to people" comments. I am sure we don't travel in the same circles, nor would I want to.