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[QUOTE=PeterNorth9;3097405]The answer to all your questions is "Who Knows? Everyday that goes by makes you think it is over. If the city, county, and state really want these places to go away, they have a host of ways they could do it. All depends on how much time and resources they want to put to the task. Then again, they may re-open this week. But how many mongers are going to stick their neck out and walk in an ERS or CLV when they reopen? Take the risk of having your mugshot and name posted all over the internet? I know there is a lot of tough talk on this board, but really, do you want to be in that position?
Too bad too. The women there were just trying to make a living just like everyone else.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure that if a business was not breaking the law and in compliance with code, it will be hard to keep them closed.
The AMPs are likely outside the law.
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Doubt it
[QUOTE=Pluto2;3152061]The obnoxious AMP signs, tourist visas, and whatever else they were doing there caused the problem.
ERS is a victim, think hard about what you post here unless you want to be subpoenaed.[/QUOTE]Admin has explained many times that there servers and your private information is not in a country that can be subject to any US jurisdiction. I am sure that Admin can go into more detail.
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[QUOTE=Steve4100;3152195]Admin has explained many times that there servers and your private information is not in a country that can be subject to any US jurisdiction. I am sure that Admin can go into more detail.[/QUOTE]It appears that they did.
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I really tried, some guys are hard headed. Not a great loss, 70 posts in 12 years comes to 1 post every two months most of them telling guys not to post.
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ERS Maybe??
So today while driving by ERS, saw way more cars out front than normal for the last few weeks. Also saw that big white Pickup with the Wisc plates that typically parks right in front of the door. As I slowed, I could see thru the tinted door that a couple of lights were on. Website has a different message. Rather than "opening soon" it said something more like. Working really hard to save our business and reopen. So maybe. The AMPs and CLV were dark dark. Might be an interesting time heading out on the ice and hoping it is safe and as fun of fishing spot as it had been a few months ago.
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"Subpoenas; Subpoena who? The servers? They are in Germany. If some the in Illinois wrote them and said "we want the data. " Ok, they would respond "Vell dots nice that chew vond I'd bud do chew hab a subena?
Oh god I read that and almost fell off my chair and lost my cookies. That was great! That made my day.
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ERS Needs to relocate!
As soon as the AMP's moved in right on Main St. The established (ERS & CLV) should have predicted the end was near.
There is a time and place for everything-flashing "Massage" signs right on the main thoroughfare is an embarrassment to LEO and the general public-eventually someone is going to make a stand.
ERS was just a great place to relax-hopefully they will open again-but at a different location and hopefully soon.
Just my opinion.
[QUOTE=RobStertag;3154982]So today while driving by ERS, saw way more cars out front than normal for the last few weeks. Also saw that big white Pickup with the Wisc plates that typically parks right in front of the door. As I slowed, I could see thru the tinted door that a couple of lights were on. Website has a different message. Rather than "opening soon" it said something more like. Working really hard to save our business and reopen. So maybe. The AMPs and CLV were dark dark. Might be an interesting time heading out on the ice and hoping it is safe and as fun of fishing spot as it had been a few months ago.[/QUOTE]
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Ers / c'est
As a long-time user of the Art of Massage nationwide, but particular in Michigan City Westward through MIL / Madison (since approx 1976), I would just like to add my history of these businesses. Back around early 80's, there was a few places in Rockford (Golden Hands was my favorite, when they were open in daytime) as well as Belvedere. Around late 81, early 82 Belvedere tightened things up for a while just like now. Didn't shut places down per se; however there was no finish available at either place, just massages, a bit of tease, then the horrible line we all hate "times up, thank you!" C'est before that time as a tad looser with rules, just hand but more roaming (but did not have showers available). ERS was no different than things were before the recent LEO involvement. Any other longtime hobbyists remember it my way? Good luck to all "out west. " Hopefully all works out and things get back to normal in Beautiful Downtown Belvedere!
TB out.
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Here's the thing
[QUOTE=Steve4100;3152195]Admin has explained many times that there servers and your private information is not in a country that can be subject to any US jurisdiction. I am sure that Admin can go into more detail.[/QUOTE][BLUE]This is another thing and it's not an accident. What private information? This is what we have, your posts, which are already public, and your email address.
If, and this is a big fucking if, they ever got all the way to getting me on a witness stand in the US, very fucking doubtful, this would be me spilling my guys
Prostitutor: Are you the admin of the USASG
Me: Yes sir
Prostitutor: Who is Steve4100?
Me: I dunno
Prostitutor: Do you mean to tell us you have no way of identifying your members?
Me: Yes sir. Oh wait, he likes fat chicks that can fart with their pussies. So if you find some guy pumping air into a fat chicks pussy holding a tape recorder that might be him.
That's kinda it.
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Secrets RLOL
[QUOTE=Admin2;3155953][BLUE]This is another thing and it's not an accident. What private information? This is what we have, your posts, which are already public, and your email address.
If, and this is a big fucking if, they ever got all the way to getting me on a witness stand in the US, very fucking doubtful, this would be me spilling my guys
Prostitutor: Are you the admin of the USASG
Me: Yes sir
Prostitutor: Who is Steve4100?
Me: I dunno
Prostitutor: Do you mean to tell us you have no way of identifying your members?
Me: Yes sir. Oh wait, he likes fat chicks that can fart with their pussies. So if you find some guy pumping air into a fat chicks pussy holding a tape recorder that might be him.
That's kinda it.
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Wow how did you know. All my secrets are now out in public. Guess I will have to find other fetishes. RLOL! . And girls that can fart though their pussy are tough to find. LOL
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Lmao
Thanks A2 for the best laugh that I've had in ages.
[QUOTE=Admin2;3155953][BLUE]This is another thing and it's not an accident. What private information? This is what we have, your posts, which are already public, and your email address.
If, and this is a big fucking if, they ever got all the way to getting me on a witness stand in the US, very fucking doubtful, this would be me spilling my guys
Prostitutor: Are you the admin of the USASG
Me: Yes sir
Prostitutor: Who is Steve4100?
Me: I dunno
Prostitutor: Do you mean to tell us you have no way of identifying your members?
Me: Yes sir. Oh wait, he likes fat chicks that can fart with their pussies. So if you find some guy pumping air into a fat chicks pussy holding a tape recorder that might be him.
That's kinda it.
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Ers
If you check the website, they are now looking for donations to pay their legal bills. They also have taken the schedules down; they were keeping them up to date up until now. Looks like the government has their claws in pretty deep.
PN9.
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Yep
Guys they won't be back. Move along down the interstate to new adventures.
[QUOTE=PeterNorth9;3157129]If you check the website, they are now looking for donations to pay their legal bills. They also have taken the schedules down; they were keeping them up to date up until now. Looks like the government has their claws in pretty deep.
PN9.[/QUOTE]
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Ers
[QUOTE=PeterNorth9;3157129]If you check the website, they are now looking for donations to pay their legal bills. They also have taken the schedules down; they were keeping them up to date up until now. Looks like the government has their claws in pretty deep.
PN9.[/QUOTE]Even if they did re-open, I'm sure they would get a less than favorable reception from the community. They would have to relocate and given their legal troubles I doubt a landlord would allow them to sign a lease.
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Crowd Funding
I think the chances of them making it through this and coming out operating on the other side is slim, but that said, wouldn't you think their fund raiser should have some incentives?
Donate $150 get your first session free.
Donate $500 and get first five sessions free.
Donate $2500 get half off sessions for first year.
Donate $5000 VIP for life.
I am not saying those are the right ones, but some type of carrot hung out there would likely greatly improve donations.