Grand Rapids Pugilistic Society

[QUOTE=JMaul;5818359]Hello all!

Been reading this chatter about Amanda and s client miscue and all I can say is welp.

It probably sounds like a hot mess, but since I was the client in the other room who had a nice relaxing session interrupted I figured I would give my 4 cents (sorry Gene, inflation is much higher now LOL).

I won't get into details, as we all should respect each other's privacy. But I will say this: you pay for the time you stay. Just like clients don't like GPS or upsell, you don't underpay a provider for time on the table.

A lot of you may think that's crazy, but I've heard of clients doing that from numerous masseuses. And while many of you don't like paying up front either, there are asshats who try and underpay. I don't get it, and while I've been in situations where my experience didn't go as I thought it would, you know the rules.

One of the most important ones? Time is money. How you spend that time is between a client and provider and none of my business unless that client is me.

I wasn't a complete outsider looking in, being buck ass naked standing in the doorway after the person left (always, always respect another client's anonymity, even the asshat ones), but I hope this doesn't negatively impact Amanda's stay in massage land. She seems like such a nice person, and since she didn't laugh at me standing buck ass naked in the doorway, I'm rooting for her to come back and give it another go.

All in all I think what happened tends to happen too frequently in this hobby, and it loses some good providers in the process. Hunter made quick work of the situation and it was a brief delay before I could go back to laying on the table and revisit some glorious time with the best masseuse in the hobby.

Stay safe out there. And I mean that for both clients and providers. The hobby doesn't exist without both parties and it seems like bad apples on both sides (in this case the client side) hurt it for others.[/QUOTE]CliffsNotes: The guy tried to underpay Amanda, and Jmaul was in the room next door.

Anyway. So there I was, blastin'.

The "outrage" about this Amanda situation is getting ridiculous. It's part of their doing business. Girls need to protect themselves just like the mongers who see them do. Trying to to a fucking PSA to "school" the other mongers on here like you're some sort of Ward Cleaver is getting to the stupid level. I really liked the "If I ever catch that guy" tag. Hahaha.

These people who hurt girls will get theirs. But you know what? I've been in this hobby for a very long time. It's my experience being on sites like this one, that although yes there are asshole mongers who do shit like this douchebag did, the girls are the ones doing most of the bad shit to the mongers such as robbing, cash & dash, or even false rape allegations and armed assaults. This is an illicit business these girls are in. They should be prepared that every single person they meet is going to try to rob them or harm them and they should prepare appropriately, just like the mongers should assume the same damn thing. Some of these monger's reactions show they are obviously new to this hobby and they act like it's the first time they've heard it really happening. And how many crack wh0re SW's died on the street in GRR last year? I know at least two did and I'm new to the area. Shit happens.

News flash: You're all scumbags paying for sex and they are all wh0res taking the money and doing the naughty deeds for that cash, and most of the girls reported on, on this site are doing drugs (NOT all!) and guess what. People die doing that shit every day. Get off your high horses and move the fuck on already. Worry about your own shit and stop trying to play sheriff. You won't get anywhere on this site doing that anyway. Pretty apparent that 99% of us are on the girls' side who are here, especially the senior members. You're preaching to the choir.

[QUOTE=JMaul;5818359]Hello all!

Been reading this chatter about Amanda and s client miscue and all I can say is welp.

It probably sounds like a hot mess, but since I was the client in the other room who had a nice relaxing session interrupted I figured I would give my 4 cents (sorry Gene, inflation is much higher now LOL).

I won't get into details, as we all should respect each other's privacy. But I will say this: you pay for the time you stay. Just like clients don't like GPS or upsell, you don't underpay a provider for time on the table.

A lot of you may think that's crazy, but I've heard of clients doing that from numerous masseuses. And while many of you don't like paying up front either, there are asshats who try and underpay. I don't get it, and while I've been in situations where my experience didn't go as I thought it would, you know the rules.

One of the most important ones? Time is money. How you spend that time is between a client and provider and none of my business unless that client is me.

I wasn't a complete outsider looking in, being buck ass naked standing in the doorway after the person left (always, always respect another client's anonymity, even the asshat ones), but I hope this doesn't negatively impact Amanda's stay in massage land. She seems like such a nice person, and since she didn't laugh at me standing buck ass naked in the doorway, I'm rooting for her to come back and give it another go.

All in all I think what happened tends to happen too frequently in this hobby, and it loses some good providers in the process. Hunter made quick work of the situation and it was a brief delay before I could go back to laying on the table and revisit some glorious time with the best masseuse in the hobby.

Stay safe out there. And I mean that for both clients and providers. The hobby doesn't exist without both parties and it seems like bad apples on both sides (in this case the client side) hurt it for others.[/QUOTE]Now that's how you b1tch. Well said, JMaul.

[QUOTE=HornyFlyer;5818835]Anyway. So there I was, blastin'.

The "outrage" about this Amanda situation is getting ridiculous. It's part of their doing business. Girls need to protect themselves just like the mongers who see them do. Trying to to a fucking PSA to "school" the other mongers on here like you're some sort of Ward Cleaver is getting to the stupid level. I really liked the "If I ever catch that guy" tag. Hahaha.

These people who hurt girls will get theirs. But you know what? I've been in this hobby for a very long time. It's my experience being on sites like this one, that although yes there are asshole mongers who do shit like this douchebag did, the girls are the ones doing most of the bad shit to the mongers such as robbing, cash & dash, or even false rape allegations and armed assaults. This is an illicit business these girls are in. They should be prepared that every single person they meet is going to try to rob them or harm them and they should prepare appropriately, just like the mongers should assume the same damn thing. Some of these monger's reactions show they are obviously new to this hobby and they act like it's the first time they've heard it really happening. And how many crack wh0re SW's died on the street in GRR last year? I know at least two did and I'm new to the area. Shit happens.

News flash: You're all scumbags paying for sex and they are all wh0res taking the money and doing the naughty deeds for that cash, and most of the girls reported on, on this site are doing drugs (NOT all!) and guess what. People die doing that shit every day. Get off your high horses and move the fuck on already. Worry about your own shit and stop trying to play sheriff. You won't get anywhere on this site doing that anyway. Pretty apparent that 99% of us are on the girls' side who are here, especially the senior members. You're preaching to the choir.[/QUOTE]You probably just explained there exactly why there are so many guys who prefer the massage experience, especially the parlor massage experience. Not once will you get robbed, cash and dash, falsely accused, nor robbed at gun point. But there are plenty of other ways to expose yourself to those interesting situations, if you like. Instead, in a massage, worst case you're going to get shorted a little time, yet you will get exactly what you expect and pay for.

But guys who do this aren't scum bags, and the gals are not whXres. They are consenting adults engaging in a fair and decent exchange. Why people bring their morals to a site like this? No idea.

I am curious what the altercation actually was. First reports were vague, basically that there was a disagreement, it got heated, and the guy was thrown out. And it was distressing enough that Amanda became at least somewhat uncomfortable with the biz. Jmaul added a bit of clarity, that the disagreement started over money, I guess.

Dead on post. Couldn't agree more!

[QUOTE=HornyFlyer;5818835]Anyway. So there I was, blastin'.

The "outrage" about this Amanda situation is getting ridiculous. It's part of their doing business. Girls need to protect themselves just like the mongers who see them do. Trying to to a fucking PSA to "school" the other mongers on here like you're some sort of Ward Cleaver is getting to the stupid level. I really liked the "If I ever catch that guy" tag. Hahaha.

These people who hurt girls will get theirs. But you know what? I've been in this hobby for a very long time. It's my experience being on sites like this one, that although yes there are asshole mongers who do shit like this douchebag did, the girls are the ones doing most of the bad shit to the mongers such as robbing, cash & dash, or even false rape allegations and armed assaults. This is an illicit business these girls are in. They should be prepared that every single person they meet is going to try to rob them or harm them and they should prepare appropriately, just like the mongers should assume the same damn thing. Some of these monger's reactions show they are obviously new to this hobby and they act like it's the first time they've heard it really happening. And how many crack wh0re SW's died on the street in GRR last year? I know at least two did and I'm new to the area. Shit happens.

News flash: You're all scumbags paying for sex and they are all wh0res taking the money and doing the naughty deeds for that cash, and most of the girls reported on, on this site are doing drugs (NOT all!) and guess what. People die doing that shit every day. Get off your high horses and move the fuck on already. Worry about your own shit and stop trying to play sheriff. You won't get anywhere on this site doing that anyway. Pretty apparent that 99% of us are on the girls' side who are here, especially the senior members. You're preaching to the choir.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TigerEye2525;5818081]My insecurity leaps off the screen?! Bahaha you crack me up with your assumptions. Sounds like you're the guy who thinks everyone is for sale. Maybe on this side of the tracks they are. Cool. I'm glad you know my financial status and you know for a fact I can't afford the "menus" of these providers LOL. Oh if only you knew what I've had with a certain provider that everyone raves about.Wthout having to pay a dime. Well other than the door fee of course. And trust me, I'm not full of bs when I say that. Stay healthy my friend and throw that payyyyperrrr. :[/QUOTE]Everyone is for sale, they just cost a lot more on my side of the tracks. There are two types; those who admit they are for sale and those who have never been presented with a bona fide offer that changes their circumstances.

You are the one who came on this board whining about not being able to afford playing with the hot girls because of child support. Then you jump to conclusions about a rich guy thinking he could buy whatever he wanted with the Amanda siutuation. I had no knowledge of what happened but intelligence guided by experience told me that it was far more likely that some monger tried to avoid paying. Now you double down on stupid and talk about getting more than what is advertised. I am sure the Blonde who runs the show will be thrilled with that publicity. First rule about off-menu services is that you keep your mouth shut. Dumbass.

After all that drama below, I figure some of you might be in the mood for a provider with a bonafide six pack the likes of which I've never seen. I'm sure these pics will be legendary.

I'm mostly out of the game these days, boys, but be safe and remember to keep it light. You aren't getting extra days as you get older.

A serious six pack provider:

[URL]https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/bbw-looking-to-make-you-cummm/045460923853[/URL]

[QUOTE=GMacMan;5838680]After all that drama below, I figure some of you might be in the mood for a provider with a bonafide six pack the likes of which I've never seen. I'm sure these pics will be legendary.

I'm mostly out of the game these days, boys, but be safe and remember to keep it light. You aren't getting extra days as you get older.

A serious six pack provider:

[URL]https://chicago.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/bbw-looking-to-make-you-cummm/045460923853[/URL][/QUOTE]Does she have a handler with a password. The back of their heads all look the same. Asking for a friend.

[QUOTE=Blackfire;5838733]Does she have a handler with a password. The back of their heads all look the same. Asking for a friend.[/QUOTE]Welp, she does have the right looks for that.

[QUOTE=WaltK;5823476] First rule about off-menu services is that you keep your mouth shut. Dumbass.[/QUOTE]Exactly. And if you get let in on the secret, you keep it. A lesson this n00 b hasn't learned, which we all will keep in mind. .

[QUOTE=HornyFlyer;5840557]Exactly. And if you get let in on the secret, you keep it. A lesson this n00 b hasn't learned, which we all will keep in mind. .[/QUOTE]Yeah, maybe blackfire should re-read that rule too.

[QUOTE=Tommey;5840602]Yeah, maybe blackfire should re-read that rule too.[/QUOTE]Are you promoting the suppression of information? Exactly who benefits from that? Would've good to hear from others too on this topic. Does it benefit the guys on the board to not provide information that would help them to know what they are buying?

Is that really a board "rule"?

I don't know how many of you know, but there is a political party that believes that prostitution should be decriminalized and honored as a legitimate profession. That means no more lurking about in the dark areas of the city, cleaning up the ones on crack, no more dirty hotels and sheets (how many times do they change the sheets at a hotel in a day? Anyone ever think about that? How many other guys sweat and banged on those sheets before you got there at 9 pm? Just sayin') If you get robbed during a transaction, you can report it to the police, if a girl gets beat up, she can call the cops and have the guy arrested. We all vote and November is election time. It is long overdue time to start thinking about the changes we want and supporting those candidates that are willing to go against the feminists, the religious zealots, and stand up for liberty to choose how you want to live.

Think about it guys (and girls).

[QUOTE=HornyFlyer;5818835]Anyway. So there I was, blastin'.

The "outrage" about this Amanda situation is getting ridiculous. It's part of their doing business. Girls need to protect themselves just like the mongers who see them do. Trying to to a fucking PSA to "school" the other mongers on here like you're some sort of Ward Cleaver is getting to the stupid level. I really liked the "If I ever catch that guy" tag. Hahaha.

These people who hurt girls will get theirs. But you know what? I've been in this hobby for a very long time. It's my experience being on sites like this one, that although yes there are asshole mongers who do shit like this douchebag did, the girls are the ones doing most of the bad shit to the mongers such as robbing, cash & dash, or even false rape allegations and armed assaults. This is an illicit business these girls are in. They should be prepared that every single person they meet is going to try to rob them or harm them and they should prepare appropriately, just like the mongers should assume the same damn thing. Some of these monger's reactions show they are obviously new to this hobby and they act like it's the first time they've heard it really happening. And how many crack wh0re SW's died on the street in GRR last year? I know at least two did and I'm new to the area. Shit happens.

News flash: You're all scumbags paying for sex and they are all wh0res taking the money and doing the naughty deeds for that cash, and most of the girls reported on, on this site are doing drugs (NOT all!) and guess what. People die doing that shit every day. Get off your high horses and move the fuck on already. Worry about your own shit and stop trying to play sheriff. You won't get anywhere on this site doing that anyway. Pretty apparent that 99% of us are on the girls' side who are here, especially the senior members. You're preaching to the choir.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blackfire;5841073]Are you promoting the suppression of information? Exactly who benefits from that? Would've good to hear from others too on this topic. Does it benefit the guys on the board to not provide information that would help them to know what they are buying?

Is that really a board "rule"?[/QUOTE]Dude. You're the worst offender here. You consistently post after others reviews that you disagree with what we paid for service at a high end spa. Then you attempt to prevent more reviews by saying our posts are "getting old" because we feel the experience is worth sharing. So please take your own advice and stop trying to suppress those of us who actually leave reviews.

In the meantime everyone should look back and see your post history. ONLY ONE REVIEW out of the last 50 posts. The other 49 were either asking us to provide more data (so you can mock our choices) or other drama posts. Dude. Stop being a troll and start being a monger.

I'm tired of your crap.

G2.

[QUOTE=Gene2;5842454]Dude. You're the worst offender here. You consistently post after others reviews that you disagree with what we paid for service at a high end spa. Then you attempt to prevent more reviews by saying our posts are "getting old" because we feel the experience is worth sharing. So please take your own advice and stop trying to suppress those of us who actually leave reviews.

In the meantime everyone should look back and see your post history. ONLY ONE REVIEW out of the last 50 posts. The other 49 were either asking us to provide more data (so you can mock our choices) or other drama posts. Dude. Stop being a troll and start being a monger.

I'm tired of your crap.

G2.[/QUOTE]Gene, I know you are so highly respected by everyone here for your obvious intelligence and high rolling style, so therefore I hate to disagree with you, but here goes.

I think the suppression of information has been bad for the massage parlor section. I certainly can understand why some don't like me to post my "questions", especially if those questions touch on sensitive areas that may point out things they would rather not be brought to light. So do I get it why some might get "touchy" when I ask what services were received for that $180, especially if the poster is one who is posting with ulterior motives (to gain favor with a girl, or is associated with the business in a marketing function, maybe is a lady posing as a guy hobbyist). So while Gene and Boatguy and "tommey" may not like me asking what services BBU offers for $180/ hr, and that guy who was marketing girls for freebies may not like me pointing that out and helping to bring it out into the light of day, I understand it why they may want to suppress the information. As for me, I'll continue to try to encourage the information to get out to the other members by asking my questions and / or pointing out what others also see but for their own reasons chose not to post about it on the board. For the sake of the board not being overrun with the fake marketers I encourage everyone who is a real hobbyist to ask the questions that should be what the board is about. What services, how much did you pay, was it safe.