Casino girls

[QUOTE=Vegasmark]Nytro…you probably just saved yourself from being robbed, maybe worse. I’m guessing you were en route to Motel 6 on Trop? My guess is she never had any intention of providing a service, either location.

Had you gone to your room, it would be a ‘trick roll’. NEVER pay a CG up front, prior to reaching your room. Always have your hobby money separate from your wallet, use a money clip.

Never ever leave a CG unattended in your room!! If she wants you to take a shower, say ‘after you’ or ‘lets shower together’. If you need to use a restroom first, use a public one on the way to your room.

Never allow a CG to watch you enter your PIN in an ATM or watch you open your room safe. CG’s have an amazing ability to remember 4 digits, almost like Rain Man!

I’ve taken trick roll reports where the time span between entering the hobbyist’s room and leaving with his wallet, Rolex and safe contents was 90 seconds. Had her on camera exiting the elevator with her John, then re-entering the elevator bank less than two minutes later. Victim said the CG was massaging his neck as he opened his safe, then left to take ‘a nice shower, baby, I’ll wait for you”.

The record amount I’ve personally seen taken from a John is $7,000, but I have heard figures much higher.

One important thing to remember, when a trick roll goes home or talks with other local tourists, he’s telling everyone “I got robbed at XYZ Casino”, not “I got stupid and some hooker took my money”

So yea, we want them out of our casinos. People coming to Vegas looking for sex aren’t spending serious money in a casino anyway.[/QUOTE]

Vegas Mark I completly disagree with your last remark. I do not need to go to Vegas for action. In fact here in PHX the providers are cheaper and whole lot better than the action LV has to offer. However, when I do go to Vegas, the casino that I am staying at, I frequent their bars, poker tables and sometimes the slots. However, I also want be staying at a casino that I know has puntang being thrown my way. Are we savy?

In fact, here in AZ we have some really good indian casinos that for the most part are no different than some of the establisments that LV has to offer. What has seperated LV from other places is the sin.

Let me give you a history lesson. During the times of the wild wild west and the era of the cattle drives. The towns that ended up being successful were the ones that offered salons, gambling, and brothels. Why because all the cowboys wanted to fequent those type of cattle towns. The cattle towns that tried to run "clean" towns ended up being ghost towns. Those that run the casinos in LV need to pull their heads out of theirs asses and realize a little bit of history and that the only thing LV has to offer is sin.

I also have to disagree with Vegasmark's comment about bigger casino players not looking for puntang. I spend enough to get comped in most major casinos and am usually the biggest player on the tables and always monger when I travel to LV. Several of my friends play at or near my level and also partake in the Harrahs-frowned upon 'adult activities' as so eloquently put by a fellow monger. True, I only had 3 girls this time but I lost and was hindered by some 'civilian' girls who joined me over the weekend.

On several trips, including this past one, I have seen some of the high rollers(dropping well over 10k/buy in) openly looking and chasing CG's. Of course, this last guy I saw was a complete idiot when it came to betting and looked like he had to pay to get any kind of pussy but it still proves my point.

IMO, I think people who like to gamble, have a higher risk tolerance which tends to carry over to other aspects of life, such as business and mongering.

Like most of the others who have addressed the topic, I think the casinos are missing the boat if they discourage CGs in the belief that the money would otherwise go on the gamoing tables. As a fairly frequent visitor (about 20 times), the availability of local talent is one of the draws---nowadays gaming can be found anywhere. I suspect that most, like me, have separate budgets for gaming and mongering, and money not spent on an accomodating lady goes home, not on the tables. In fact, I can remember the time when some casinos reputedly provided female companionship as part of the comp provided to high rollers. To be sure, I can understand casinos not wanting blatant accosting that is a turnoff to family-oriented customers (like the cards hawked feverishly on the strip), and I can understand that having guys rolled is bad for business, but, IMHO, CGs who are subtle and provide an honest swervice in exchange for the donation are a boon to business.

[QUOTE=Lip Licker]
IMO, I think people who like to gamble, have a higher risk tolerance which tends to carry over to other aspects of life, such as business and mongering.[/QUOTE]
This is spot-on. A buddy sometimes used to go with me and gamble big-time (I love gambling, but am a wuss compared to him). He would go 4-5 times per year, but no longer goes as on back-to-back trips his casino ran CGs away – I think it was Harrah$ & Flamingo, but I always see them at Flamingo. He also used to love Cheetah's, but since they have gone down hill mileage wise, and with the door goons everywhere, he takes his gambling and other action elsewhere.

Seen this thread any locations you say to go or stay away from. I agree that I have money for both of my hobbies setup and couldn't think a better way of getting rid of some stress from the tables than with a lovely lady

Pm or post thanks,

Nefan

Perhaps we have different definitions of 'high roller'.

I'm talking about the Europeans and Asians we deal with that have stacks of yellow and purple chips on the table (yellow=$1000, purple = $5000).

My personal record is taking $200K worth of chips to one player. Twice.

Not sure how many here fall into this category, but these guys neither need nor want common street walkers.

It was customer complaints - and the Gaming Commission - that resulted in our crackdown on CG and pimps, just that simple.

[QUOTE=Lip Licker]I also have to disagree with Vegasmark's comment about bigger casino players not looking for puntang. I spend enough to get comped in most major casinos and am usually the biggest player on the tables and always monger when I travel to LV. Several of my friends play at or near my level and also partake in the Harrahs-frowned upon 'adult activities' as so eloquently put by a fellow monger. True, I only had 3 girls this time but I lost and was hindered by some 'civilian' girls who joined me over the weekend.

On several trips, including this past one, I have seen some of the high rollers(dropping well over 10k/buy in) openly looking and chasing CG's. Of course, this last guy I saw was a complete idiot when it came to betting and looked like he had to pay to get any kind of pussy but it still proves my point.

IMO, I think people who like to gamble, have a higher risk tolerance which tends to carry over to other aspects of life, such as business and mongering.[/QUOTE]

The situation you describe is not "risk" tolerance, it's "spending" tolerance. If someone can afford to drop 10k, he can certainly afford some nice providers. Of course gambling is inherently high risk, but that has little to do with being able to get CGs.

[QUOTE=buddhahead]The situation you describe is not "risk" tolerance, it's "spending" tolerance. If someone can afford to drop 10k, he can certainly afford some nice providers. Of course gambling is inherently high risk, but that has little to do with being able to get CGs.[/QUOTE]

Agree with both you and L.L.

Whether they are more risk or spending tolerant, either way, these are visitors that the town should want to take care of, and the ladies can do that.

I wonder how many big bettors, whales, there are that frequent vegas and read this board and learn how to get the best bang for the buck in vegas thanks to the collective wisdom. I toast them all.

[QUOTE=Vegasmark]It was customer complaints - and the Gaming Commission - that resulted in [b]our[/b] crackdown on CG and pimps, just that simple.[/QUOTE]


OK, I'll ask again. Who is 'our'? I would really like to know the name of this property so I don't stay there next time I visit.

[QUOTE=Vegasmark]Perhaps we have different definitions of 'high roller'.

I'm talking about the Europeans and Asians we deal with that have stacks of yellow and purple chips on the table (yellow=$1000, purple = $5000).

My personal record is taking $200K worth of chips to one player. Twice.

Not sure how many here fall into this category, but these guys neither need nor want common street walkers.

It was customer complaints - and the Gaming Commission - that resulted in our crackdown on CG and pimps, just that simple.[/QUOTE]

"Complaints!" You want to know where those complaints come from? The actual people that live in Vegas. The same people that complained about smoking in the casinos and passed a propisition to ban smoking in the casinos are same ones that complain about everything else. Fortunatly, the smoking ban that was suppossed to go in effect in Dec 2009 was overturned. Hmmm, lets think about who was behind that, maybe the casinos.

The point is back in the day the casinos actually had real balls and could give a f*ck what the people of vegas thought. Organized crime knew and understood what the customers wanted, and their was a happy median with the casinos and they did it with class. Now, the casinos are being a bunch of pussies and giving into complaints. Watch, you will see this will eventually be Vegas's demise.

[QUOTE=StreetFiend]"Complaints! " You want to know where those complaints come from? The actual people that live in Vegas. The same people that complained about smoking in the casinos and passed a propisition to ban smoking in the casinos are same ones that complain about everything else. Fortunatly, the smoking ban that was suppossed to go in effect in Dec 2009 was overturned. Hmmm, lets think about who was behind that, maybe the casinos.[/QUOTE]This is what locals complain about! How about the "Girls Girls Girls" sign on the truck going up and down the strip. Or better yet the porn slappers on the strip. I would have no problem with them cleaning that up.

[QUOTE=StreetFiend]The point is back in the day the casinos actually had real balls and could give a f*ck what the people of vegas thought.organized crime knew and understood what the customers wanted, and their was a happy median with the casinos and they did it with class. Now, the casinos are being a bunch of pussies and giving into complaints. Watch, you will see this will eventually be Vegas's demise.[/QUOTE]Here, here. Hopefully this is short lived. Getting the look is what makes Vegas fun.

Hi everyone,

I'm travelling over at the end of the month for most of July to do a bit of gambling partying etc

I am gonna be staying in Caesars for a few weeks then a couple weeks elsewhere on the strip probably Ballys as it's location is good.

I was just wondering if you would be able to offer me some advice on where to find the best CG and where to stay away from please.

I'm looking to spend no more than $$$ and obviously want to avoid getting rolled, I have picked up some of the basics from reading through this thread.

Just want some up to date advice on the girls at the present time. I've only just joined today and see there are some girls that advertise here who sound like they are the best value. I have to make a number of reports first though. What is that exactly?

Thanks in advance.

Hi,

I'm travelling to Vegas for a month in a couple weeks. I will be staying at Caesars for a fortnight then most likely Ballys for a week and Harrahs for a week.

I've gotten a lot of good information already from the earlier posts right back to pg 50 or something where I started reading (thanks guys)

I was just wondering if you would be able to give me some up to the minute advice on where to look for CGs either Asian or BCGs in the $1.5-$$$ range.

I also see some girls advertise here and you are required to be screened or have reports. How do I go about getting this sorted as they seem to be the kind of girls who are great to deal with.

Thanks in advance

I respectfully disagree with buddha and stick to my original statement that it is all risk tolerance. You take a risk when mongering whether it is with STD's, ROB's, assault, arrest, poor service, etc. You take a risk when gambling legally or illegally. The underlying thread is having a risk taking personality IMHO. I didn't infer that having a high tolerance for risk had anything to do with your ability to get girls, but rather how prone one would be to engage in the activities of a monger.

I'm a little curious as to where Vegasmark is referring to also. Purple chips are $500 in all the casino's I've seen except for Vegas Club(what a shithole), where their $500 chips are grey with yellow and black stripes. Brown or 'chocolate' chips are 5K with the exception of Bellagio which I think uses white for 5k. A lot of the high rollers I have noticed are american or middle eastern but maybe that's just my limited experience. The last high roller I saw was comp'd something in the order of 50K worth of chips(not the jackass whom I mentioned in the prior post). According to the dealers, he had just lost over 750K the previous night. Looked and sounded like a middle-aged american businessman with a definite type-A personality.

I agree that the casinos shouldn't be chasing away the independent girls. They are a big part of the draw for me. If anything, vice, the local PD, and security should go after the agencies and the ROB's.

Back to the thread: I did see a nice blonde working girl zipping through Paris late at night but she was the only obvious one I've ever seen in Bally's/Paris and I couldn't find her once I left the table. Most of the working girls I have seen just walk outside on the sidewalk from PH to Bally's and go north on the strip. Wynn and Bellagio had a lot more CG's in the wee hours of the morning. The quality of CG's at Wynn is what I believe all Vegas Casinos should encourage. Security doesn't seem to hassle them at all.

Sorry guys, I wasn't aware how things worked on the boards with regards to posts being checked before put up.

Lesson learned