WA Brings his Own Coffin Nails to the Party
[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6045658]Are you fucking serious?..
...It's simply a higher level of safety.
Dream was raped, robbed, assaulted, and stiffed because she didn't want to follow simple safety measures.
This is Kween's first bad experience....
...Kween and I have a very strong friendship and I responded as any friend would.[/QUOTE]Are you fucking serious? You DM'd me a bit back and told me that queen MADE UP that she was raped. Filed a false Police Report. Put you in a bad spot. Now you're back on here saying that she was raped. Which is it? Your integrity is on the Rocket Sled to PR469 Town. You and he can compare notes and combine your files on the info you've gathered on the mongers when you get there. HE has a fancy computer he uses to monitor his endeavors. Maybe he will let you upload into his hard drive. You can probably put your data into his computer as well.
Guys, if you even consider giving info to WhineyAshley OR P. Richie 469, you are insane. You can clearly see that they put Ho's before Bro's when it comes to data, intel and other info. Not to even mention their stalky, creepy behaviors. There is a fine line between helping a UTR and being a Pimp. The first line you crossed is when you decided you needed to promote SWs as a UTR girl. That's where your troubles began if you recall.
He claims he does this for the safety of "his girls". I would be more worried about the Monger's safety in dealing with (just about) anyone in his Harem.
The more WA talks, the hole he digs for himself gets deeper and deeper.
Back to your comments above and reading your older posts, I would say that Kween's FIRST bad experience is not this event; it was hooking up with you.
Now in your own words, you are admitting to having relationships with all these girls in your Pimp Harem. Sounds a LOT like you're getting into the same territory of your S. C. I cohort, Ritchie. You're sounding like you are just on the edge of holding girls against their will. A serious question, will Kween be moving in with you soon? If so, where are you two registered so I can pick out a lovely housewarming gift for you both. LOL.
BTW, Bianca doesn't think too highly of you. I see you still "promote" her though. Even bigger LOL.
Grain 56.
WhineyAshley On the Prowl for More Girls to Pimp Out
Pulled over from the SW Thread:
[QUOTE=NightAudit;6040933]Met a BSW names Rose by the new exercise store. White bikini top with a mini skirt and no panties. Said she was here from Texas but will be heading to Miami by middle of next month and then leaving the state. Beautiful body and breasts. Even had a good conversation and by the end I felt so much better and in 2022, that is needed.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6045697]Need more info.
BSW isn't much to go on.
Description, rates, etc.[/QUOTE]Easy there, Pimp-Quasi.
I got plenty of info from NightAudit's description. Maybe he didn't give a rate, but his description seemed pretty straight forward. If you genuinely needed a rate, you could use a DM to do that, but my guess would be that it was in line with the area. NightAudit is a longtime member that has more Forum Integrity in his Desk Bell than you and your cohort have in your entire bodies. Combined.
I'd say that any BSW between the Mall area and down to the OQ wearing a White Bikini Top, Mini Skirt and no Panties that is from Texas that has a beautiful body and breast and is named Rose would be her. Yes, actual size and height would be helpful. Beautiful body suggests she was fit. Also, I know, girls do change clothes, sometimes.
Even with that, I feel that she would be easy to spot based on the info given. The Texas girls were already discussed earlier in the Thread as well. I would guess that she is part of that group.
Even more with that, you don't even see girls anymore, you just manage them. Why would you need her rate? Are you hoping to Pimp her out? I am sure she has a Pimp already and he's from Texas. Is it that, or are you just trying to be a Thread Bully to try to garner your desired approval from the Forum?
Grain 56.
My take on the Kween, Bertox, Jenna, Wayne, issue.
Post from Wayne:
I have the texts both from Kween and you and from you to me.
You agreed to $375/2 hr you spent four hours with her.
She greatly reduced her threesome rate from $300 an hour, even after you cancelled last minute on her the night before, because she's gay af and was horny af.
Your girl paid because as a working girl she realized that the debit was legit.
You pay for their time. If it took you four hours to realize that the date wasn't going to go your way you're a special kinda stupid.
I also have your text to me saying if you had been with your girl she would not have sent any money. So don't try to bs now and say you covered it. Your girl did.
Kween has seen a few members here, not one single bad review or complain. But somehow she chose you to twirl? BS.
Everyone who has seen her will tell you that she professional, personable and DTF. She even went against her standard practices to fit into this group.
You fucked her over but your girl stepped up and made it right and I gave her 50 for the aggravation I caused by not only giving you her number but actually recommending you based on your being a gatekeeper.
As far as I'm concerned it's over.
But next time you threaten to meet me, show the fuck up.
Vino's opinion on the matter:
IF what Bertox claimed is true and you don't really dispute that fact, Wayne, then he is not on the hook for the time that Kween wasted and stalled on them. Especially when they both kept trying to get her to do what she was going to be paid to do. Bertox posted that they both tried again and again, to get Kween into the bedroom to start the fun. She refused. He's also not on the hook for Kween's initial fee. This is because she refused to do the services promised. We all state that we "pay these girls gifts for their time. " But the reality of it is we pay them for their time and for their service. It sounds to me like Kween got messed up, started screwing around and wasting time, then was too buzzed (or whatever,) to do the date. That fact changes everything. Telling Bertox to then, "take me back home so I can feed my dog. Oh, and you owe me extra gifts for the extra time I wasted and didn't give you any services for, BTW," simply is not acceptable.
If anything, Bertox should've taken her back home and maybe given her a small gift for the date that didn't work out. But that's it.
If Kween was too buzzed to do the date, then perhaps other agreements could've been made for the future. Shit happens. It didn't sound like any counter-offers were made by either party.
I think the big error of the evening was Bertox not asking to do this longer date with OFC time factored in, until after he had seen Kween at least a couple of times before. This type of thing should never be attempted on a first date. But I guess he trusted that she would be good for it and was mistaken.
I certainly wasn't there and I'm just voicing my. 02, based upon the posts made by Wayne and Bertox. I am not busting on anyone involved in this incident. It just sounds like a plan that didn't work out. I will say that if Kween (and Wayne,)think she deserves escort coin for enjoying a nice dinner and singing songs and nothing else, that they couldn't be more wrong in the matter. That goes against every single principle this great Forum was ever founded upon. Not one single monger on this great Forum would EVER think that a girl deserved escort coin for simply, "hanging out," and not doing anything else.
My .02, for what it's worth.
As always, there's two sides to a story and the truth is somewhere in the middle.
[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6046166]The problem is that this completely is contrary to what Kween is saying.
And I have in fact disputed his version of the story
The story she is telling is that she tried to engage him but he was playing on his phone while she and the girl hit it off.
The fact that the girl paid tells me that she saw it as a legit bill, and if it took him four hours to figure out he was getting twirled, he wasn't getting twirled. This is especially true of a seasoned monger.
Kween's reputation as an eager initiator is unquestioned.
She is one of those who truly does enjoy what she does and I know she was looking forward to the date. I just didn't know that it was with one of us because we don't discuss those details.
The only thing that rings true in his whole story is her infatuation with her music.
I'm actually in contact with an Emmy award winning producer about that, he operates out of Chicago among other places. Just sayin.[/QUOTE]NP. As I stated, I wasn't there.
I wish Kween good luck on her music dreams.
My experience over the years with an HOA
Brought over from the SW Thread.
[QUOTE=WayneAshley380;6048707]WARNING NOT HOA APPROVED: Bianca hmu again asking me to give out her number.
It's the same number as last time *5835*.
Hmu if you need it.[/QUOTE]In the 25+ years that I've lived in a HOA neighborhood that the people who complain the most (Whiney) and are the loudest complainers (Ashley) about a HOA, are the same ones that violate the rules the most and think that these rules and guidelines need to apply to them. Reality is they usually make the neighborhood a better place to live.
For Example:
You didn't like that you can't post about you wanting to discuss Trannies on the Forum. You got even madder when you found out that you certainly can't Pimp them out on the Forum as you tried to do.
You didn't like that and the Forum Rules state that you can't post phone numbers openly on the Forum, even though it says not to in multiple places, including the place where you post comments in the Threads. You still got your panties in a wad about that when it was mentioned to you in private.
You decided you wanted to start Pimping out SWs on the Threads as your exclusive UTRs, going against the very definition of a UTR girl. Then you got mad and became extremely defensive when someone mentioned that to you.
You then posted for Members to "HMU" for dates with SWs that can easily be found out and about. Nothing wrong about sharing digits as was told to you repeatedly BUT when you would not reveal the general areas where someone COULD find one of these SW girls without needed to hit you up where actually you admitted several times that you would THROUGHLY screen the Forum Member, help the SW set rates and decide if the member warranted getting the digits of a girl that gets into unvetted, random guy's cars all day long. Your troubles as Pimp-Quasi really began from that. You didn't like that you were called out on those Pimpish behaviors and got mad. Very mad.
You denied being a Pimp. You denied your behaviors were extremely Pimpy. However: You admitted that you "represent" several girls on the Streets. You admitted you aren't clients of them, just vet, promote, gather post-date intel for filing away data for your own use and worst of all, help negotiate rates for them. You even step-in with threats and accusations when a date doesn't go right, and the girl comes back with less than she needed to earn to pay everyone off. That's defined as Pimping. You got even more mad that you were called out about those behaviors. Fact is, Pimping is generally not a behavior that is looked upon favorably when you promote girls to benefit from the transaction on the Forum. Remember, there are past referenced posts (we can still see them) that you made that would support these facts 100%.
There are several more examples of these Forum rules, quorum and intent abuses from you in your posts, but these are enough to make the point. Deflect all you want, make up nicknames for others all you want. Pointing out someone's abuse of the Forum or an abuse of a WG isn't a bad thing done by members. In fact, those calling out those abuses are the things that actually make the Forum and Mongering Safer for all. It's not safer because WhinyAshley is trying to save each working girl, one at a time. It's too bad he is one of the types that can't grasp the motive behind the Forum. Go back to putting members "back" on ignore. We ALL know you'll still regularly look at the posts. It's like a car accident. You can't help but to look.
As far as comparing the Forum to an HOA is concerned: Those that don't like the rules set up by the Administration of the Forum, I mean Association, can always leave and start their own Forum or Association. They can run it how they want, invite extremely vetted people to join to avoid any conflicts or issues with compatibility and see how the Membership roll just flows from the walls and explodes. Please confer with PR469 for more on how well THAT worked out for him. LOL.
Whine on WhinyAshley, whine on.
Grain 56.