Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=BlackRod82;5709586]I climbed the mountain this eve and I had Amy for a hour started about 5 minutes into it and started talking about how they celebrate years eve where she from while talking coco came in while I was in my mountain gear like it was normal LOL I wanted her to take me to the top of the mountain but I think she looked at the gear I had and it was to much I guess so Amy took me and what a climbed it was I noticed while climbing I seen the door was open coco walked like two time while we was climbing LOL.

Once at the top I throw up and Amy turn around and freak out sayin to much 🤪 next time going to see if I can get coco can't wait.

Stay safe and have fun.[/QUOTE]I found myself being a bit confused while reading this. Comfort has an Amy and a Coco and in reading this the Mountain does as well. It just seems too much of a similarity, so I thought that maybe I overlooked something and they are referring to the same place, but I checked and they have separate addresses. Are they owned by the same person and the girls rotated between?

[QUOTE=MountainLover;5709822]I found myself being a bit confused while reading this. Comfort has an Amy and a Coco and in reading this the Mountain does as well. It just seems too much of a similarity, so I thought that maybe I overlooked something and they are referring to the same place, but I checked and they have separate addresses. Are they owned by the same person and the girls rotated between?[/QUOTE]They are not owned by the same person. Totally separate, different providers.

[QUOTE=MountainLover;5709822]I found myself being a bit confused while reading this. Comfort has an Amy and a Coco and in reading this the Mountain does as well. It just seems too much of a similarity, so I thought that maybe I overlooked something and they are referring to the same place, but I checked and they have separate addresses. Are they owned by the same person and the girls rotated between?[/QUOTE]No, man there are probably 5 Coco's and 5 Amy's in Virginia. Common names used by the girls.

[QUOTE=BlackRod82;5709586]I climbed the mountain this eve and I had Amy for a hour started about 5 minutes into it and started talking about how they celebrate years eve where she from while talking coco came in while I was in my mountain gear like it was normal LOL I wanted her to take me to the top of the mountain but I think she looked at the gear I had and it was to much I guess so Amy took me and what a climbed it was I noticed while climbing I seen the door was open coco walked like two time while we was climbing LOL.

Once at the top I throw up and Amy turn around and freak out sayin to much 🤪 next time going to see if I can get coco can't wait.

Stay safe and have fun.[/QUOTE]If this is the young one then she may only be BJ only. At least that is what she told me a ways back. This is also the young one that used to go by a different name (can't recall what) but then changed to Coco she told me when I remembered her by a different name.

So long story short. Who knows these days.

[QUOTE=ThomasDay2;5708386]What you say is true, in general, but Vickie went to NOVA because, and I quote "business is bad here."[/QUOTE]It probably has more to do with the Ahole who owns the place. Most girls leave after he treats them like shit. I gave a girl a ride there one time. She called me the next day to come get her because the Ahole raped her. I drove her a place in VB after that. The girls can't report him and he knows it.

[QUOTE=JayCramer80;5710035]It probably has more to do with the Ahole who owns the place. Most girls leave after he treats them like shit. I gave a girl a ride there one time. She called me the next day to come get her because the Ahole raped her. I drove her a place in VB after that. The girls can't report him and he knows it.[/QUOTE]Why can't they? Are they all here illegally?

[QUOTE=JayCramer80;5710035]It probably has more to do with the Ahole who owns the place. Most girls leave after he treats them like shit. I gave a girl a ride there one time. She called me the next day to come get her because the Ahole raped her. I drove her a place in VB after that. The girls can't report him and he knows it.[/QUOTE]I can't speak to the owner part but it's certainly possible he plays a role in this. I also think she might believe business will be better elsewhere. There was a discussion earlier about how Richmond seems to have activity in multiple areas which is not the norm in most parts of the country. We have multiple MPs offering a wide variety of services, plenty of girls advertising on multiple sites, traveling girls (they wouldn't come here if business was not worth it) several strolls for SWs and quite a few options in the sugar bowl. Not to mention the UTR and non-pro activity that can be easily found on dating apps. Seems like there is a healthy balance of supply and demand in Richmond. I know we don't always think we have it very good here but it's better than we give it credit for.

If Vicky worked in a market with a lot of demand and little supply she might be used to having more business and getting better tips. Here we have options and tipping doesn't seem necessary to be serviced the way we want. Hopefully it stays this way. Business can't be that bad based on the multiple reports of massages being interrupted, difficulty reaching someone, ghosting, etc. I'd rather say goodbye to someone unhappy with our good economic position then find myself needing to schedule days in advance and tip to get priority.

Best of luck to Vicky and should she return, we will be happy to come see her again.

Stay safe.

RR.

[QUOTE=RomanRich;5710287] Business can't be that bad based on the multiple reports of massages being interrupted, difficulty reaching someone, ghosting, etc. I'd rather say goodbye to someone unhappy with our good economic position then find myself needing to schedule days in advance and tip to get priority.[/QUOTE]I would visit an AMP and see all the cars in the lot and think business must be good. But then I think why do the raved about ones end up leaving "for NY" and not coming back. And the ones getting busted aren't 10's, 9's or even 7 and 6's. I'm tryng with all the AMPs around here that I visit, to think of who I see on a regular basis, and I can't think of any. They all end up leaving after a few months.

The difficulty reaching people and ghosting are results of monkey habit IMHO and not necessarily because business is good.

Most women in the AMPs are here working in essentially indentured servitude. This is also true for many many immigrants (by far mostly Asians, especially Chinese and Korean) who work low wage menial jobs here like housekeeping, food service, manual labor and all the jobs Americans don't want to take. To get to America they take a loan out from someone who does this sort of business. They don't have money or ability to get here so they get help and a loan from someone. When they get here they are put to work likely in a pre arranged situation to pay back the loan with low wages and at high interest. They probably get screwed hard.

For the AMP women there must be promise of making more than they would cleaning or working in a restaurant etc, probably seems like a good way to make the money back more quickly.

When they are here many of them are essentially sex-trafficked between various locations by their handlers. They are told where to work and for how long. They are moved around constantly not because of some business or market reason, but it is so they don't make strong connections with the clients. If they stayed in one spot very long, one of us would sweep them off their feet, marry them and then the handlers are out a girl. They move them so we don't fall in love and start dating them and take them out of the business. Honestly I figure it's largely Chinese and Korean mafias running places where the girls don't stay long. That's the other thing is what they do where is largely jurisdictional, so they may do FS in one place and only he another. But we can assume the youngest hottest one are kept between the best paying markets I. E. Not RVA.

But, there are places that appear to have a different set up. One I know for sure that's a bit different is Choctaw. They are really nice ladies there and I believe one of them is the owner, that's what she told me. Now she might own it with her husband but still. The women there don't move much at all, I have been enjoying sucking on the same huge pair there for years. They also can actually give a good massage and I have had very little problems there. We should patronize shops like this. Please post if you know of any other shops that seem like this and the girls stick around at.

Wait I mean how does it go here, no Choctaw is really bad don't go there! LOL.

With Vickie leaving now does anyone know of any others who will do BBFS.

Has any one know if there is new talent at ljs.

[QUOTE=QHoldem;5711779]Most women in the AMPs are here working in essentially indentured servitude. This is also true for many many immigrants (by far mostly Asians, especially Chinese and Korean) who work low wage menial jobs here like housekeeping, food service, manual labor and all the jobs Americans don't want to take. To get to America they take a loan out from someone who does this sort of business. They don't have money or ability to get here so they get help and a loan from someone. When they get here they are put to work likely in a pre arranged situation to pay back the loan with low wages and at high interest. They probably get screwed hard.

For the AMP women there must be promise of making more than they would cleaning or working in a restaurant etc, probably seems like a good way to make the money back more quickly.

When they are here many of them are essentially sex-trafficked between various locations by their handlers. They are told where to work and for how long. They are moved around constantly not because of some business or market reason, but it is so they don't make strong connections with the clients. If they stayed in one spot very long, one of us would sweep them off their feet, marry them and then the handlers are out a girl. They move them so we don't fall in love and start dating them and take them out of the business. Honestly I figure it's largely Chinese and Korean mafias running places where the girls don't stay long. That's the other thing is what they do where is largely jurisdictional, so they may do FS in one place and only he another. But we can assume the youngest hottest one are kept between the best paying markets I. E. Not RVA.

But, there are places that appear to have a different set up. One I know for sure that's a bit different is Choctaw. They are really nice ladies there and I believe one of them is the owner, that's what she told me. Now she might own it with her husband but still.[/QUOTE]Maybe you have been watching a few too many movies or getting RVA confused with big city prostitution rings. RVA doesn't have this situation, majority of the ladies come and go as they please and only have loose agreements with the manager or owner of the shop. In fact, the majority of the shops are the same, ok massage and if you get to know the shop, ie become a regular and are decent to the worker, you can get a little extra action, for a little extra tip.

If it's a FS shop, all you guys know and they are few and far between and it's only because the workers are willing to take the risk to get a little bit more tip. Think about it, the owner gets the same fee regardless of what the girl does behind closed doors.

[QUOTE=ThomasDay2;5712231]Maybe you have been watching a few too many movies or getting RVA confused with big city prostitution rings. RVA doesn't have this situation, majority of the ladies come and go as they please and only have loose agreements with the manager or owner of the shop. In fact, the majority of the shops are the same, ok massage and if you get to know the shop, ie become a regular and are decent to the worker, you can get a little extra action, for a little extra tip.

If it's a FS shop, all you guys know and they are few and far between and it's only because the workers are willing to take the risk to get a little bit more tip. Think about it, the owner gets the same fee regardless of what the girl does behind closed doors.[/QUOTE]I agree, I personally know about a dozen of these AMP girls. Not a single one took out a loan to get here. None of them are sex Traffic. They are not indebted to anyone. They come here because they make a ton more money than they can make at their old job in China. They all have hopes of finding an American husband. Some of them were abused in China and divorced their Ahole husband. All the girls I know had regular jobs in China making a few hundred per month. Here they make a few thousand a month. They are very frugal and save most of their money. I've had two women offer to buy me a house if I marry them. Most of them want to marry and stay here permanently. Treat them nice, they are good women when you get to know them.

[QUOTE=JayCramer80;5712929]I agree, I personally know about a dozen of these AMP girls. Not a single one took out a loan to get here. None of them are sex Traffic. They are not indebted to anyone. They come here because they make a ton more money than they can make at their old job in China. They all have hopes of finding an American husband. Some of them were abused in China and divorced their Ahole husband. All the girls I know had regular jobs in China making a few hundred per month. Here they make a few thousand a month. They are very frugal and save most of their money. I've had two women offer to buy me a house if I marry them. Most of them want to marry and stay here permanently. Treat them nice, they are good women when you get to know them.[/QUOTE]This is spot on. I have experienced the same. Most are very sweet.

[QUOTE=QHoldem;5711779]Most women in the AMPs are here working in essentially indentured servitude. This is also true for many many immigrants (by far mostly Asians, especially Chinese and Korean) who work low wage menial jobs here like housekeeping, food service, manual labor and all the jobs Americans don't want to take. To get to America they take a loan out from someone who does this sort of business. They don't have money or ability to get here so they get help and a loan from someone. When they get here they are put to work likely in a pre arranged situation to pay back the loan with low wages and at high interest. They probably get screwed hard.

For the AMP women there must be promise of making more than they would cleaning or working in a restaurant etc, probably seems like a good way to make the money back more quickly.

When they are here many of them are essentially sex-trafficked between various locations by their handlers. They are told where to work and for how long. They are moved around constantly not because of some business or market reason, but it is so they don't make strong connections with the clients. If they stayed in one spot very long, one of us would sweep them off their feet, marry them and then the handlers are out a girl. They move them so we don't fall in love and start dating them and take them out of the business. Honestly I figure it's largely Chinese and Korean mafias running places where the girls don't stay long. That's the other thing is what they do where is largely jurisdictional, so they may do FS in one place and only he another. But we can assume the youngest hottest one are kept between the best paying markets I. E. Not RVA..[/QUOTE]This is not accurate at all in RIC. I know many if not most of who owns the various RIC AMPs and this is not the case here. Many own more than one. They were providers, saved money, worked out the logistics. Permitting. Lease with an American boyfriend or husband and bought a shop. There are a few who build them out and flip them. There is a story behind every provider. There are worse bosses than others. They will leave and not go back to those places but if they say they are coming for a month they lose face if they bail out. One post said they move around all the time. Well, not as much as they used to. Covid etc. Same girls at Chester Sq. , Comfort, GF, XF, Choctaw. Jasmine, Downtown, Azalea etc.