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[QUOTE=GT750E;3235839]Formerly a pet salon / grooming business, I was both surprised and hopeful when I saw Hiya. Didn't go until recently, greeted by the young, petite, attractive therapist ("Lisa" Signed up for 60 minutes. I think the posted rate is $70. Saw the prominent signage in the room, undressed, face down. Room was adequately lit but not overly, but unlike at other places, Lisa didn't further dim the lights after re-entering. Didn't try to over-analyze it. It was an hour, approximately 45 minutes face down and all therapeutic. On the flip (with continued towel concealment), a light teasing-type of touch, which raised my hopes and would have raised more than that, but alas, she stopped after about 5 seconds, not nearly enough time for the desired biofeedback. *sigh* So at that point, I pretty much realized that either (A) Hiya is competing with Massage Envy for therapeutic-only business, or (B) I will need to return x-number of times for them to get to know me better / feel comfortable enough to differentiate themselves from, say, a chiropractor's office. I've been around; I get it. I understand the circumstances and it's just too bad we still have to operate certain businesses and portions of our private lives under veils of suspicion and fear.
Anyway, not a whispered anything. I would have been thankful even to have the chance for self-service in Lisa's presence, but no go.
They have a loyalty program. After 10 visits you get one hour free.
Although Lisa is compelling and her technique is good (not great), I just can't see myself going back again, and I also don't know how they'll truly stay in business mid- to long-term. Unless there is a steady supply of new customers who don't know what I now know. That said, many of these businesses exist and stay open. Just my opinion. Not because they're turning profits, but rather because they're a financial front for other entities.[/QUOTE]I can confirm that additional visits with Lisa will not lead to Xtras.
NP.
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[QUOTE=NotParticular;3236770]I can confirm that additional visits with Lisa will not lead to Xtras.
NP.[/QUOTE]Good to know my intuition is still good. Thanks for that reply, NP. I've lived and worked in Hong Kong, my client being the biggest China-based financial institution in the world. I think I can say the following with some smidgen of authority. Korean-owned / managed / operated AMPs are pretty much good bets, though as usual, YMMV. Chinese-owned / managed / operated places are simply not going to be customer-service oriented. Just my 2 yen.
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[QUOTE=GT750E;3237394]Good to know my intuition is still good. Thanks for that reply, NP. I've lived and worked in Hong Kong, my client being the biggest China-based financial institution in the world. I think I can say the following with some smidgen of authority. Korean-owned / managed / operated AMPs are pretty much good bets, though as usual, YMMV. Chinese-owned / managed / operated places are simply not going to be customer-service oriented. Just my 2 yen.[/QUOTE]Do we have Korean ones around here?
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[QUOTE=VBacon;3237566]Do we have Korean ones around here?[/QUOTE]Yes, there are, but candidly, I am new to the GSP scene and will post reports accordingly. Stay tuned. Maybe even later this evening.
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[QUOTE=GT750E;3237394]Good to know my intuition is still good. Thanks for that reply, NP. I've lived and worked in Hong Kong, my client being the biggest China-based financial institution in the world. I think I can say the following with some smidgen of authority. Korean-owned / managed / operated AMPs are pretty much good bets, though as usual, YMMV. Chinese-owned / managed / operated places are simply not going to be customer-service oriented. Just my 2 yen.[/QUOTE]Oh, and BTW, which every monger here will applaud (at least I surely hope so), it's q. P. q. (quid pro quo) . No extras from Lisa (any Lisa, not just the "Lisa" at HiYa), then no extras from me.
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[QUOTE=MrIthaca;3236110]Went to Lilys on Augusta Road yesterday (off exit 46.) Suzy let me in the side door and led me to the room. Very clean. I paid her, got naked and lay down on the table. She came back and started the massage / rub. After a few minutes I told her how I wanted it and she changed to suit my desires. Suzy is not gorgeous but in my opinion is fairly good looking, maybe about 32 or so, but one thing anybody can agree on is that she has a smoking body. Firm, nice tits, tight ass, etc. On the flip we agreed on $ and she immediately stripped, got on top of me and started kissing me down my body, rubbing those magnificent tits all over me. CBJ, FIV, no ass play, DATY if I wanted it and don't know about FS because I didn't ask for it. Left very relaxed and satisfied. They have a table shower but I passed on that.[/QUOTE]H.
Mr. Ithaca, with all due respect (seriously), Lilys on Augusta has been closed down 'forever' - even rub maps dot com lists it as closed more than a year. Can you clarify, or correct? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=GT750E;3238532]H.
Mr. Ithaca, with all due respect (seriously), Lilys on Augusta has been closed down 'forever' - even rub maps dot com lists it as closed more than a year. Can you clarify, or correct? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sorry I interject, they (re) opened a little bit down the road, same side. Never tried but looks like the entrance is on the side of the building.
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Lilys
[QUOTE=GT750E;3238532]H.
Mr. Ithaca, with all due respect (seriously), Lilys on Augusta has been closed down 'forever' - even rub maps dot com lists it as closed more than a year. Can you clarify, or correct? Thanks.[/QUOTE]This is a new Lilys which has been open for about 4 months, advertises on BP. When you get off exit for Augusta Road, turn left instead of right and it is on the right about 1/4 mile.
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[QUOTE=MrIthaca;3238955]This is a new Lilys which has been open for about 4 months, advertises on BP. When you get off exit for Augusta Road, turn left instead of right and it is on the right about 1/4 mile.[/QUOTE]Excellent Thanks!
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[QUOTE=GT750E;3237394]Good to know my intuition is still good. Thanks for that reply, NP. I've lived and worked in Hong Kong, my client being the biggest China-based financial institution in the world. I think I can say the following with some smidgen of authority. Korean-owned / managed / operated AMPs are pretty much good bets, though as usual, YMMV. Chinese-owned / managed / operated places are simply not going to be customer-service oriented. Just my 2 yen.[/QUOTE]I am reluctant to post any Xtras from CAMPs since girls get in trouble with owners and may lead to LE visits. KAMPs are fair game though as everyone knows that Cyrus are almost always available.
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I went there yesterday, as I needed a really good massage plus some extras. Susie met me at the door. She's got a very naughty MILF look about her. We were the only people there. Ushered me to a room and took the fee after she tried to upset me for an hour. And when she returned, I was on the table. She then began something I can't really call a massage. It was more prodding. Just pushed on my back and arms. Almost damaged my neck from pushing on it while my head was turned (no face hole in the table). I thought I asked for 30 min but she continued this for that whole time, and she didn't tell me we were through, so I figured I paid for an hour. Fine. Then, surprisingly, her work on my hands and feet was pretty good. Not great, but almost worth the door fee.
My hands were roaming over her thighs and butt under her short dress so at 45 minutes in she left. Wait wait wait. 5 minutes later she comes back with hot towel and says we're done. I have to go home. I kiss her. She kisses back. DFK. She has great, full, soft lips and it's enticing. Then the negotiation starts. She wants 150 for FS and I tell her no, 100. We argue. Offers oral for 100. I say no, FS. She asks for the cash. I say afterward. She says no, now. A real buzzkill but I give it. And SHE LEAVES! I hear her greet another customer. She returns 5 minutes later and takes off her dress in about. 4 seconds. She climbs onto me and DFK some more, then kisses down to my ding dong and puts a cover on thicker than the smokescreen around the Obama administration. Suck suck suck, I think. Hard to tell with a tire on my cock. She slides back up and guides me into her ladyparts and rides for about 30 seconds and asks if I've cum. No. I flip her over for mish and she says "no, you have to finish. " The hell I do. So I work mish for 20 seconds with her trying to squirm away from me because see, she's got this other customer waiting. While pumping, I remind her that I tipped for this. Not what she wanted of course, but I work harder for my money than she does for hers, so I plow a little more and then pop. She wipes me down and disappears again while I dress. Then she comes back all sunshine and puppies while leading me to the door and DFK me again before I go.
I still need a great massage, on a table with a face hole, so if you have a suggestion, I'm open to it.
[QUOTE=MrIthaca;3238955]This is a new Lilys which has been open for about 4 months, advertises on BP. When you get off exit for Augusta Road, turn left instead of right and it is on the right about 1/4 mile.[/QUOTE]
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Magic Hands on Woodruff Rd or Ching Ching in Spartanburg both offer awesome massages for $50/ hour. Magic Hands is known for upselling extra time. Ching Ching is all business and won't try to upselling.
[QUOTE=Zauriel;3243805]I went there yesterday, as I needed a really good massage plus some extras. Susie met me at the door. She's got a very naughty MILF look about her. We were the only people there. Ushered me to a room and took the fee after she tried to upset me for an hour. And when she returned, I was on the table. She then began something I can't really call a massage. It was more prodding. Just pushed on my back and arms. Almost damaged my neck from pushing on it while my head was turned (no face hole in the table). I thought I asked for 30 min but she continued this for that whole time, and she didn't tell me we were through, so I figured I paid for an hour. Fine. Then, surprisingly, her work on my hands and feet was pretty good. Not great, but almost worth the door fee.
My hands were roaming over her thighs and butt under her short dress so at 45 minutes in she left. Wait wait wait. 5 minutes later she comes back with hot towel and says we're done. I have to go home. I kiss her. She kisses back. DFK. She has great, full, soft lips and it's enticing. Then the negotiation starts. She wants 150 for FS and I tell her no, 100. We argue. Offers oral for 100. I say no, FS. She asks for the cash. I say afterward. She says no, now. A real buzzkill but I give it. And SHE LEAVES! I hear her greet another customer. She returns 5 minutes later and takes off her dress in about. 4 seconds. She climbs onto me and DFK some more, then kisses down to my ding dong and puts a cover on thicker than the smokescreen around the Obama administration. Suck suck suck, I think. Hard to tell with a tire on my cock. She slides back up and guides me into her ladyparts and rides for about 30 seconds and asks if I've cum. No. I flip her over for mish and she says "no, you have to finish. " The hell I do. So I work mish for 20 seconds with her trying to squirm away from me because see, she's got this other customer waiting. While pumping, I remind her that I tipped for this. Not what she wanted of course, but I work harder for my money than she does for hers, so I plow a little more and then pop. She wipes me down and disappears again while I dress. Then she comes back all sunshine and puppies while leading me to the door and DFK me again before I go.
I still need a great massage, on a table with a face hole, so if you have a suggestion, I'm open to it.[/QUOTE]
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K AMPs
So which ones are Korean?
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Magic Hands
[QUOTE=Mauldin42;3244337]So which ones are Korean?[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure that Magic Hands is Chinese. I was there on Saturday for the $45 pre-noon special and got a terrific massage with a lot more roaming than I was used to. I think if I'd paid for another half hour, I might have gotten a H. E. - she was playing with Jr and the boys for about 15 minutes and then abruptly said "times up".
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[QUOTE=RFagen;3244346]... - she was playing with Jr and the boys for about 15 minutes and then abruptly said "times up".[/QUOTE]That's their way of telling you to do it yourself I've come to learn.