Agency Discussion and Reviews

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The security surveillance in AMPs usually works against them, as it provides usable evidence.

[/QUOTE]Your agency trust is a little too strong comrade, here's a nice breakdown of how that can all go wrong, whether you read it completely or not I offer it regardless. [URL=https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5754-Rants-Opinions-and-Totally-Pointless-Bullshit&p=7502318&viewfull=1#post7502318]Link here[/URL].

Anywho I don't want to promo a girl I haven't seen or have a strong reason to but I would like to make the post here useful so new girl, Noah popped up at SSG. I saw an interesting comment elsewhere that she was meant to go to California next so don't know if plans changed or if she's on a quick run like that time with Bobo. Can't promise I'll make it out there today if that's the case but good luck to anyone who does.

[QUOTE=Ayasaki;7502335]Your agency trust is a little too strong comrade, here's a nice breakdown of how that can all go wrong, whether you read it completely or not I offer it regardless. [URL=https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5754-Rants-Opinions-and-Totally-Pointless-Bullshit&p=7502318&viewfull=1#post7502318]Link here[/URL].

Anywho I don't want to promo a girl I haven't seen or have a strong reason to but I would like to make the post here useful so new girl, Noah popped up at SSG. I saw an interesting comment elsewhere that she was meant to go to California next so don't know if plans changed or if she's on a quick run like that time with Bobo. Can't promise I'll make it out there today if that's the case but good luck to anyone who does.[/QUOTE]Ok so let's say equal out the risk factor. The overall experiences are definitely night and day. When visiting an agency girl and describing her as AMP style it is most definitely in a negative sense. I would wager your all time best AMP experience as base line agency level service. The only exception would be if you favor a shitty massage above all else.

Snack lord was spot on. Second visit and she turned it up a notch which was hard to believe. Nearly three pops and god did she try for a third. Very personable and casual with passionate intimacy.

Maybe only we can share it but whatever. Loved her style and oh boy does she shake that ass. I kissed more butterflies than ever before haha. Hopefully she decides to come back through. Praying for some European independent baddies in our future.

[QUOTE=BravoFox;7501620]Agree, Angelina is a sweetheart and super easy to connect with. Glad she made a visit and she genuinely seemed into the whole session, especially the aerobics. Talk about starting the year with two bangers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoeB119;7475836]Heading up to NYC in a few weeks and wondering if anyone here might be able to point me to a good asian agency. I'm checking the boards and usual places and thought I'd see ifanyone here has a recommendation?[/QUOTE]RM and USASG are your best resources for NYC. I have been to so many over a course of about 10 years leading up to 2020 when Covid ending my traveling job. Back then RM was free, then went to $4. 99/ mo. It's way too high for me now. Most of the places I went shut down during covid, possibly something else has opened on their spot. So many different type spas and services there it will take some time to invest in what you want. I preferred the midtown spas most of those were a flat rate, at the time $$. 25- 50, FS, TS, BBBJ, cim, covered FS. Near Chinatown you could get what ever you wanted or didn't want and may not get rid of it. Mostly older Asians, but everything on the table for a cheap price. Including anal, BBBJ, cim, BBFS, some you could find for as Kittle as $ and up. Keep in mind this was 2010-2020.

Good luck.

Thanks for the tips, Vanilla. Made my way up to NY and was able to get verified at NYSE. If anyone heads up that way I can recommend. Unfortunately had scheduled a session with a highly reviewed provider and on confirming the day of my appt. She got sick so had to pivot. Instead of taking the recommendation of MMS, I opted for youth with a fresh arrival. Bad choice on my part. The provider was a beauty but service was less than hoped. Should have trusted the recommendation. At any rate with the location and ease with strong roster of talent, I will be returning next time I am up there. I will say that the recently arrived Noahat SSG is an alum of the agency and I hope to see her while she is here:

[URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/27895[/URL]

Please note, I am not yet recommending Noah as I have no 1st hand knowledge but I am hopeful.

[QUOTE=VanillaStick;7504448]RM and USASG are your best resources for NYC. I have been to so many over a course of about 10 years leading up to 2020 when Covid ending my traveling job. Back then RM was free, then went to $4. 99/ mo. It's way too high for me now. Most of the places I went shut down during covid, possibly something else has opened on their spot. So many different type spas and services there it will take some time to invest in what you want. I preferred the midtown spas most of those were a flat rate, at the time $$. 25- 50, FS, TS, BBBJ, cim, covered FS. Near Chinatown you could get what ever you wanted or didn't want and may not get rid of it. Mostly older Asians, but everything on the table for a cheap price. Including anal, BBBJ, cim, BBFS, some you could find for as Kittle as $ and up. Keep in mind this was 2010-2020.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]

Nice updates on CCG. I might have to revisit later this month.

Alyssa & Ellen.

Alyssa is definitely on my radar. I liked Angelina, and I usually love the Latinas, but maybe chemistry wasn't all there. Maybe it was the age, not sure. Don't get me wrong, GFE, but it wasn't a repeat for me. I did repeat with JP and thought she was insanely hot, but I like those fit MILF types.

[QUOTE=Stim69;7504686]Nice updates on CCG. I might have to revisit later this month.

Alyssa & Ellen.[/QUOTE]

Well just sharing a point of reference of photos going beyond filtering to out and out AI creations. Check out the last image of Hatti at SS88 in her white silk lingerie. I can't post a screen shot just now but if you look at her feet, this is clearly an AI creation:

[URL]https://sakuraspa88.com/view/28355[/URL]

Maybe someone can screenshot and share before they take it down.

To the point of of previous discussions, perhaps it doesn't really matter anyway. What's the difference between using someone else's photos, strong filters, photoshopped, or ai images? We should just be open to TOFTT for the girl that is there. Just don't rely on the online pics as a source of truth.

[QUOTE=JoeB119;7505047]Well just sharing a point of reference of photos going beyond filtering to out and out AI creations. Check out the last image of Hatti at SS88 in her white silk lingerie. I can't post a screen shot just now but if you look at her feet, this is clearly an AI creation:

[URL]https://sakuraspa88.com/view/28355[/URL]

Maybe someone can screenshot and share before they take it down.

To the point of of previous discussions, perhaps it doesn't really matter anyway. What's the difference between using someone else's photos, strong filters, photoshopped, or ai images? We should just be open to TOFTT for the girl that is there. Just don't rely on the online pics as a source of truth.[/QUOTE]I noticed that last night. I was like is hmm. The only time I have ever seen real pics is from independent escorts on Twitter and Tyrst. They have their own personal website but those ladies charge much more.

[QUOTE=JoeB119;7505047]Well just sharing a point of reference of photos going beyond filtering to out and out AI creations. Check out the last image of Hatti at SS88 in her white silk lingerie. I can't post a screen shot just now but if you look at her feet, this is clearly an AI creation:

[URL]https://sakuraspa88.com/view/28355[/URL]

Maybe someone can screenshot and share before they take it down.

To the point of of previous discussions, perhaps it doesn't really matter anyway. What's the difference between using someone else's photos, strong filters, photoshopped, or ai images? We should just be open to TOFTT for the girl that is there. Just don't rely on the online pics as a source of truth.[/QUOTE]Well you've nailed the real challenge of reporting in a small city with low trust. And why this creates a nearly impossible scenario for us. There is a school of thought that the ads photos should simply be ignored and they are useless. Intel from real users is paramount. I agree but actually getting that intel is the issue.

I want to go in detail but I'll shorten it to this (unless requested). If we assume all photos are worthless, then what becomes the deciding factor between going to see SS88 Hatti, SS88 Mimi, SSG Noah, and CCG Angelina. If it is review count, you will never see anyone at SS88 or SSG lol. So let me just scratch out CCG, what are my reasons to go see Hatti vs Noah? China vs Japan? So for me if I'm TOFTT, I just prefer it to be Japanese basically and I find their photos while often edited, most give me something if I have nothing else to go on. Sometimes (maybe 30%) you reverse search the Japanese girls and get a more realistic photo from their time at a delivery health / soap / etc place.

I'm good with the Chinese girls too, SS88 Angela was well reviewed and I liked her a ton. And deep down I still kinda want to see SSG Mary and Yaya again. But I'm not going to TOFTT across AMPs and two agencies every week lol.

[QUOTE=BravoFox;7504077]Snack lord was spot on. Second visit and she turned it up a notch which was hard to believe. Nearly three pops and god did she try for a third. Very personable and casual with passionate intimacy.

Maybe only we can share it but whatever. Loved her style and oh boy does she shake that ass. I kissed more butterflies than ever before haha. Hopefully she decides to come back through. Praying for some European independent baddies in our future.[/QUOTE]Hey all! Stopping in for a visit in the next few weeks. Some Latina sounds perfect but it looks like she isn't on the website. Assuming she rotated out but if there is another spot to look would appreciate the info. Also interested in any other good Latina references anyone might have. Appreciate it and DMs always open as well.

I am going to throw this out there as a consideration on this topic. Photos may be directed by providers and agencies are arms length. Hear me out, I've had some conversations with a few girls at different agencies none of whom I will name. From what I was told, they are responsible for compensating the agencies and not the other way around. And that includes cleaner bro. That means if they don't get enough clients, then they don't have enough to "pay the rent". Also sounds like the agencies are somewhat beholding to the girls and their plans. As such, I think it is not a stretch to think the agencies are very happy to keep themselves very separate from any provider and likely do not even verify photos. As long as they provide the needed support, it's a symbiotic relationship.

Bottom line. It's the girls and not the agencies driving the photos. Agencies have the reputation for future engagements so do not want to see anything reflecting so poorly that will keep people away but within reasonableness, I don't think anyone cares.

Just 2 c.

[QUOTE=Ayasaki;7505247]Well you've nailed the real challenge of reporting in a small city with low trust. And why this creates a nearly impossible scenario for us. There is a school of thought that the ads photos should simply be ignored and they are useless. Intel from real users is paramount. I agree but actually getting that intel is the issue.

I want to go in detail but I'll shorten it to this (unless requested). If we assume all photos are worthless, then what becomes the deciding factor between going to see SS88 Hatti, SS88 Mimi, SSG Noah, and CCG Angelina. If it is review count, you will never see anyone at SS88 or SSG lol. So let me just scratch out CCG, what are my reasons to go see Hatti vs Noah? China vs Japan? So for me if I'm TOFTT, I just prefer it to be Japanese basically and I find their photos while often edited, most give me something if I have nothing else to go on. Sometimes (maybe 30%) you reverse search the Japanese girls and get a more realistic photo from their time at a delivery health / soap / etc place.

I'm good with the Chinese girls too, SS88 Angela was well reviewed and I liked her a ton. And deep down I still kinda want to see SSG Mary and Yaya again. But I'm not going to TOFTT across AMPs and two agencies every week lol.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoeB119;7505630]

Bottom line. It's the girls and not the agencies driving the photos. Agencies have the reputation for future engagements so do not want to see anything reflecting so poorly that will keep people away but within reasonableness, I don't think anyone cares.

[/QUOTE]I haven't had those conversations, although I almost wish I had gotten more info from Yuria, she had shared a cosplay photoshoot she did. Anyway, I would agree.

But back to the photos, the girls are the source but I'm also sure they can be influenced if it becomes known that a community prefers to see a certain type of photos. I do want to be clear, I'm not saying they all have to dox themselves, but when you do something better one place and worse somewhere else, it probably hurts your sales.

So my comments aren't going to change an entire system haha. Heck it is done in their home country (bonus photo attached) so I can't even hope to suggest that it become a rule. But that's why I try to give credit to the girls that make that step.

But here's one final bonus. As much as we review them, we are also being reviewed I'm sure (as a city, not a guy), so I'm also not going to say skip every girl with studio only photos. Or every girl with real photos but isn't perfect. But I think we are picking up momentum that Columbus, OH might have given up, so making the girls happy like some of you did with Sana in December, matters. And why was Sana so successful? I had zero influence on that one.

New people reviewing. Lots of photos. All of the few reviews said photo accurate. I mean there had to be some reason you guys favored her and ignored Sai haha.

[QUOTE=Ayasaki;7505724]But back to the photos, the girls are the source but I'm also sure they can be influenced if it becomes known that a community prefers to see a certain type of photos. I do want to be clear, I'm not saying they all have to dox themselves, but when you do something better one place and worse somewhere else, it probably hurts your sales.[/QUOTE]I can't speak for everyone, when I look at the photos, there is (or needs to be) something that I find seductive in the shoot that gets my juices flowiing. It could be face, body type, clothing. It really doesn't take much but then my mind keeps going to that one thing. I was really curious to see Yuki a few weeks ago, with her leggy slender body. Hattie pics had me too until I saw the feet, now I can't unsee it. LOL. However Ellen over at CCG could be interesting from her reviews but pics do not sound accurate.

[QUOTE=Ayasaki;7505724]. But that's why I try to give credit to the girls that make I mean there had to be some reason you guys favored her and ignored Sai haha.[/QUOTE]Case in point, given the 2 images you shared, I would have chosen Sai over Sana- just find the look more appealing. I never got to see Sai while she was here, can't remember why, maybe I had other things going on or Kimmie was in town or someone else had slightly more allure. Personally for me I'd say the biggest turn off is the misrepresentation of age- which happens everywhere. Not that there is anything wrong with a 40 yo beautiful Asian lady, just when I'm ramped up going in expecting 25 and get 40, it's a huge letdown.

[QUOTE=JoeB119;7505822]I can't speak for everyone, when I look at the photos, there is (or needs to be) something that I find seductive in the shoot that gets my juices flowiing. It could be face, body type, clothing. It really doesn't take much but then my mind keeps going to that one thing. I was really curious to see Yuki a few weeks ago, with her leggy slender body. Hattie pics had me too until I saw the feet, now I can't unsee it. LOL. However Ellen over at CCG could be interesting from her reviews but pics do not sound accurate.

Case in point, given the 2 images you shared, I would have chosen Sai over Sana- just find the look more appealing. I never got to see Sai while she was here, can't remember why, maybe I had other things going on or Kimmie was in town or someone else had slightly more allure. Personally for me I'd say the biggest turn off is the misrepresentation of age- which happens everywhere. Not that there is anything wrong with a 40 yo beautiful Asian lady, just when I'm ramped up going in expecting 25 and get 40, it's a huge letdown.[/QUOTE]Hmm well you got me beat there LOL. I guess I just see that "style" too much and it just starts to blend in. And this is only with 6 months frame of reference, imagine people who've been seeing this for years haha. [URL=https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33082-Agency-Discussion-and-Reviews&p=7376220&viewfull=1#post7376220]This post happened over in NOVA[/URL] if you just want to see what I see.

Age is something I'm fairly negotiable on but I get it. I know some places don't list ages usually so. Can't lie if you never tell haha.

But let me deal with what I do know, SSG ages are also off but they are in a range. A very specific range. And I ran across a post recently discussing the concept of "Yoshiwara Age". Should be safe to link since I've seen people reference this site. But I'll drop an image here too. [URL]https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/why-are-soapland-prices-and-ages-so-confusing.31502/[/URL].

Now SSG isn't *actually* Japanese, but the idea just might be accepted. I think it has likely matched up with this version, and not the 5 ages version. I don't have everyone recorded because of mistakes. But:

* 20 (20-22): Karen, Hana, Nana, Kara, Emma, Mika, Erika, Ami, Momo.

* 21 (23-25): Aona, Jolie, Rumi, Elsa, [B]Sena[/B], Rei, Riri, Sai, Noah, Yaya, Mei Harusaki.

* 22 (26-28): Otani Momo, Haru, Yuria, Yuki, Yuna, [B]Miyako[/B], Sana, Momona.

* 23 (29-31): Viki, Jia, Alex.

* 24 (32-34): Qiqi, Mary, Jojo, Grace (Bella).

If I account for those adjustments, it's a lot more realistic. Since 25 has never been used, I assume it's really 32+ for that category. I suspect the 23 age Koreans probably should also be moved up. And the two highlighted. Well I never saw Miyako so no guarantee there but as bad as I am about ages, Sena definitely should be in the "24" group. No insult to her, I still liked her, but I share this so maybe you can see if this helps you get a hint the next time it comes up. Perhaps SS88 follows suit, Angela was "23" after all.