General Reports

It IS a gang hang out, and has been going steadily further in that direction over the past few years, especially late on weekend nights. But if you really enjoy the thrill of danger, spend some quality time late at night at the 418. It's a miracle there hasn't been more violence there. But believe me, it's coming. In my opinion, 418 is the worst of the worst in terms of potential danger. And all the fat girls there are definitely NOT worth risking your life over! Do you know they actually promote it as a fat girl club? See [url]http://the418club.com/home.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Ben11]Whats the story on the 5th alarm?

I'm hearing its a gang hang out- but hell didnt someone get shot at MG recently?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gravitas69]It IS a gang hang out, and has been going steadily further in that direction over the past few years, especially late on weekend nights. But if you really enjoy the thrill of danger, spend some quality time late at night at the 418. It's a miracle there hasn't been more violence there. But believe me, it's coming. In my opinion, 418 is the worst of the worst in terms of potential danger. And all the fat girls there are definitely NOT worth risking your life over! Do you know they actually promote it as a fat girl club? See [url]http://the418club.com/home.html[/url][/QUOTE]Only one girl on that site strips at 418 regularly

It's an ass bar. Not a titty bar.

[QUOTE=Gravitas69]It IS a gang hang out, and has been going steadily further in that direction over the past few years, especially late on weekend nights. But if you really enjoy the thrill of danger, spend some quality time late at night at the 418. It's a miracle there hasn't been more violence there. But believe me, it's coming. In my opinion, 418 is the worst of the worst in terms of potential danger. And all the fat girls there are definitely NOT worth risking your life over! Do you know they actually promote it as a fat girl club? See [url]http://the418club.com/home.html[/url][/QUOTE]Looks like an interesting marketing gimmick anyway. I mean, EVERYBODY offers up hot young, in shape girls. So there's a niche for this I do suppose. Their website however, is pretty horrible. They don't even list their hours of operation. I would check the place out sometime if I happen to be in the Springfield area, but when are they open? Do they have a day shift? Sounds like it's too much trouble for what it's worth at night. Gang activity and such.

Yeah -- place sux! Only safe time to go is during the day. I hear the girls shoot up smack right in the club

[QUOTE=Garthy]Yeah.- place sux! Only safe time to go is during the day. I hear the girls shoot up smack right in the club[/QUOTE]I took a chance and walked into 5th alarm last night about 11.

Mind you I didn't check these responses to my post until today. Its a hole- like the 418 only bigger.

The place had some cute girls in there- young fun and WYLD! Got a few private dances from one of the girls in there-Carmen, Cuban and something else, she said it was only her second night stripping. Most of the girls are hoodish but this one was very sweet.

Talked with a good looking one thats been there a few years. She told me the place used to have alot of "rough" girls but that the manager is changing the image and getting cuter and younger workers.

ANyway towards the end of the dance a fight broke out in the dressing area which is kind of open and to the rear of the club. Two of the girls were fighting overe some guy (pimp? ). I saw my sweet Carmen with her street clothes. I gave her a little shrug of the shoulders like idk whats going on as she headed towards the exit.

I decided to get outta dodge also. Went to a nice regular bar for awhile.

Drove by 5th again on the way home- saw a cruiser parked out front.

During the day, both 418 and the mighty 5th are safe. I too would avoid them Friday and Saturday nights, but no more than the other d'town dance clubs. The cover charges sift the truly indigent among us out and that means you can get a seat and enjoy yourself, and not have knuckleheads craning in on your show.

Theres enough drug abuse going on at all the strip clubs-it doesn't bother me. Everybodys have to watch their valuables at all times anyways, right? And believe me, its the hottest chicks (conventionally speaking) that are the heaviest dopers. Thanks for the description of yr experience-yikes! Those couches were new not long ago! Black lights back there tell a million stories I guess. I always liked the 418 better-you ain't doin that in the 5th too often.

What REALLY SUCKS about the Fifth-

1. 3/4 of the bartenders are lazyass mushheads-fucking up the change, yakking with buddies instead of serving drinks

2. The foul mens room is beyond comprehension. You have to walk on pee, then walk onto carpeting, which the girls walk barefoot on. Its not that tough to mop once a fucking day, chrissakes. Theres a whole building full of hobos next door who would do it for cheap-cmon management!

Best thing about the Fifth:

The big metal detector everyones have to walk through.

Snailtrail

Good for you for checking it out B7-Personally I like the mix of type: hotties, chubbies and the truly unfortunate CAN co-exist in peace spreading for bread. I don't post much, but I didn't want the myth of them being 'dangerous places' stop anyone. These girls need your dollars, guys.

At 12midnight the cops are there every night-the station is around the corner-there doesn't have to be any trouble.

I'm not pro-pimp, but the beefs in the bar don't have anything to do with them. It takes next to nothing to get these chicks to fight each other.no exaggeration. All hoodrat level respect-issue stuff.

Go during the day if you can. They (and 418) open at 12 but usually no one shows up til 1ish to dance. As you might guess, I love both places! You never know who's gonna be there (aside from the 'reliable' contingent, which is pretty small).

Oh yeah-the 418 has a righteous place to crap: a big plus for me after a night of chicken wings. And they sweep broken glass up from the parking lot.

The fifth lot- watch good for glass, especially across the street. And don't fear the hobos or hoes approaching, just be polite and keep moving.

Snailtrail

Ps. It used to be a lot worse, honest.

Thanks guys for all the great info, especially about the clubs and extra services. I wanted to ask about one of the CL girls who work out of Springfield named Katie. Her posts on CL don't include a pic and she claims she's a college student. She has good rates (I talked to her) but for some reason the no-pic thing makes me nervous. She's in Springfield now. Anyone tried her out? can you give me a report?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Cheeckymonkey]She has good rates (I talked to her) but for some reason the no-pic thing makes me nervous. She's in Springfield now. Anyone tried her out? can you give me a report?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Gotta tell her to send a pic to your email.

I've met quite a few girls from cl. Dont have any info on that katie cl girl. But about cl i do want to say, as much as people are iffy about it i have never had a problem with it. Of course besides some girls being shady- upselling or under preforming. For the most part i find the girls are just as worried about me being LE as i am that I've walked into a sting.

One thing i always do is ask to touch a body part before ANY discussion. Not sure why but i heard LE cant touch or let you. And im also as vague as possible whenever i call or write an email. When it comes to LE i am more afraid of being caught with a sw in my car. And lastly-I reserve the fucking right. if i get there and its a 200lbs stump and her picture was from ******* 4 years ago then i bail. (Quality control starts with us) these tips have worked for me with chat lines and Cl.

Anyone got any tips? Anyone know anything about the asking to touch them thing? Is it legit?

[QUOTE=Cheeckymonkey]Thanks guys for all the great info, especially about the clubs and extra services. I wanted to ask about one of the CL girls who work out of Springfield named Katie. Her posts on CL don't include a pic and she claims she's a college student. She has good rates (I talked to her) but for some reason the no-pic thing makes me nervous. She's in Springfield now. Anyone tried her out? can you give me a report?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I can't say I know what your into but. She's not thick and curvy, SHE'S FAT UNSEXY and does not carry weight well.

Please Don't take my word for it and go look at her for yourself.

It's fun, but does not protect you in any legal sense. le can take your money, fuck you in the ass, and then arrest you if they want to. Sound illegal? What's your point, that le never does anything illegal en route to a bust? Who will be believed, the upstanding officer or the slimy pervert trying to pay for sex in a dingy motel?

You can protect yourself by seeing escorts who have been reviewed on a reputable site, or taking the advice of trusted comrades. Every time you see someone off CL, local adult newspaper, etc, you are taking one for the team. Does your cop check method work? Yes, right up until the time it doesn't work.

[QUOTE=Clarence]It's fun, but does not protect you in any legal sense. le can take your money, fuck you in the ass, and then arrest you if they want to. Sound illegal? What's your point, that le never does anything illegal en route to a bust? Who will be believed, the upstanding officer or the slimy pervert trying to pay for sex in a dingy motel?

You can protect yourself by seeing escorts who have been reviewed on a reputable site, or taking the advice of trusted comrades. Every time you see someone off CL, local adult newspaper, etc, you are taking one for the team. Does your cop check method work? Yes, right up until the time it doesn't work.[/QUOTE]

Great advice Clarence. To see this is true, one should just read the police report from when they did undercover investigations of the 2041 Club in Meriden, CT. The myth that LE can't touch, or be touched, is a thing of the past.

[url]http://www.mysunforums.com/content/RJ/content/myrj/Documents/PoliceReport.pdf[/url]

Are these customers the stupidest people alive? They just give up info on their regular stop? I wouldn't admit to getting a bj, hj or fs unless they proved I did it.

Thanks for the report, Wolfman.

[QUOTE=Wolfman Jack]Great advice Clarence. To see this is true, one should just read the police report from when they did undercover investigations of the 2041 Club in Meriden, CT. The myth that LE can't touch, or be touched, is a thing of the past.

[url]http://www.mysunforums.com/content/RJ/content/myrj/Documents/PoliceReport.pdf[/url][/QUOTE]

What is this?!? Action on the Springfield forum? A discussion? A visit from the Wolfman?

Wow... what a day! I took this as a sign from the Lord and went cruising. A lot girls out in the daylight. Some real old timers too. But none in the good way. As I told Steel not too long ago, I just don't have the energy, desire or need to stop for crap! Especially if it could result in BAAAAD things occurring.

So, I counted 8 SWs. Ironically, if I added up the numbers, they ranked about an 8 in total. Okay-- maybe one of them was a 3.

Go to it, Springfield!

The Meriden police report on the brothel down there was enlightening, but did not scare me off from SWs. The cop goes in with a mic and asks whats on the menu, and pays the basic fee. The girl strips and puts her hand in his pants and starts rubbing. Gee, if that's what being a cop is like, I might enroll in the police academy!

Anyway, I appreciate the post, but it's not necessarily relevant to picking up a girl. I always follow my 10 basic rules for safety:

1. Nod or signal the girl, then pull around the corner or into a parking lot half a block away. Never stop and negotiate through the window. That's a sure set up for a sting.
2. Unlock the door and wait for the girl to get into the car. If it's a sting, she probably won't get in.
3. Ask something innocuous like, "Would you like a ride somewhere?" Then drive off to safer place to conduct negotiations.
4. Do a cop check: Ask her if she's a cop. If she says no, then ask her to show you she's not. She'll probably expose her tits, or invite you to feel them (not a bad way to evaluate the goods prior to negotiations).
5. Before I touch her, I always invite her to touch me first. This puts her at ease, and is again a pretty good way of erasing any lingering doubts that she's an undercover cop.
6. Once all this business is done, or even before, she may ask you "What are you looking for?" I never answer until I've done all the checks. I like to respond with, "What's on the menu?".
7. Ask her to give you a price for a service first. I never make the first offer. If you name a price, it's difficult to go lower. If she names a price, you can offer her less.
8. Read the last few months of posts so you know what the going rate is. This is valuable info that your brethren here on the board have gone to bat to get for you. Use it!
9. Pick out a safe spot in advance that you are comfortable with to do the deed, that isn't too far away. She doesn't want to waste a lot of time driving to some remote spot and then coming back - all time she could be on the street making her next sale.
10. Be wary if she wants to take you to her favorite spot. I'm always looking for good spots, so I'll sometimes go along. If I'm uncomfortable when I see it, then I say, "Let's go to my spot - this feels too risky to me".

There's a great post with 22 rules for safe street mongering that is definitely worth reading. It covers some of the same ground that I did, but is missing a few key points. Here's the link: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/a...geringrules.php[/url]

Finally, be careful out there... be safe and you'll have a great time; be careless and your evening (and many following days) will be ruined.