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[QUOTE=Robertin75;4899932]I can only speak for myself.
It's terrible. Full of scammers, flakes, no shows, online / pics only, run down girls (ex-BP) and a bunch of immature kids who never have the intention to ever meet in person.
Problem is it's getting worse and there seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel.
I saw that there's a 30% discount on premium membership but I passed. Not even worth it at $60 bucks / month.[/QUOTE]For me. Scammers and online only galore. It does seem to be getting worse.
But.
Have met this week with 2 newbies. EXCELLENT. I will be repeating with both.
If you have the time, patience and are gentlemanly at all times there are gems to be found.
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My Two Cents
My experience on the site has seen some of what why'all are talking about, but my success has over weighed it. Currently I have 3 different girls I see and one more in the works.
I don't jump right to "what are you here for" or "how much do you want", I have good conversation with them and I'm upfront about my marriage and what I am looking for. If I find that a girl has GPS or wants to only sell pics, I laugh at them and move on.
Attractiveness does play a role:
I've had babies show me some of the guys that message them and how the conversation goes and we have a good laugh together. Remember, 90% of these girls aren't workers, and you should be able to tell the ones that are fairly easily.
Stop going for under 18-24 yrs old:
You'll get nowhere with that generation. They grew up watching IG models and influencers. They feel they have entitlement because that is what they see.
I just saw my most recent baby yesterday. She's 41 and a knockout. Everything about her is amazing. We looked through her phone together and I asked her "why me". She stated that my conversation was awesome and my looks are too. She said that she can't picture herself with someone she wouldn't normally be with. This isn't the first one to say that. We agreed on 5 a month. All I have to do is give her a heads up when I want to come over.
Am I a hunk? No, I'm a little overweight in my early 40's, but I know how to talk and I keep my appearance good. Conversation is key! Remember, if you go into it looking for SW or escort, that is what you'll find. Just my 2 cents.
BTW, I will not share my girls info because they don't do volumes.
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Paid Up Front?
[QUOTE=BobDino1;4905318]My experience on the site has seen some of what why'all are talking about, but my success has over weighed it. Currently I have 3 different girls I see and one more in the works.
I don't jump right to "what are you here for" or "how much do you want", I have good conversation with them and I'm upfront about my marriage and what I am looking for. If I find that a girl has GPS or wants to only sell pics, I laugh at them and move on.
Attractiveness does play a role:
I've had babies show me some of the guys that message them and how the conversation goes and we have a good laugh together. Remember, 90% of these girls aren't workers, and you should be able to tell the ones that are fairly easily.
Stop going for under 18-24 yrs old:
You'll get nowhere with that generation. They grew up watching IG models and influencers. They feel they have entitlement because that is what they see.
I just saw my most recent baby yesterday. She's 41 and a knockout. Everything about her is amazing. We looked through her phone together and I asked her "why me". She stated that my conversation was awesome and my looks are too. She said that she can't picture herself with someone she wouldn't normally be with. This isn't the first one to say that. [b]We agreed on 5 a month.[/b] All I have to do is give her a heads up when I want to come over.
Am I a hunk? No, I'm a little overweight in my early 40's, but I know how to talk and I keep my appearance good. Conversation is key! Remember, if you go into it looking for SW or escort, that is what you'll find. Just my 2 cents.
BTW, I will not share my girls info because they don't do volumes.[/QUOTE]Nevermind. I read that wrong.
Is 500/month about the right average?
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I'd say its been terrible lately, but I'm also looking for something in particular when on there. If I wanted a drugged up escort or stripper, I'd go that route. If I wanted an average looking 35 - 45 year old woman, I'd go to a bar any evening and pick one up. I used to go on there for younger, near model level people or women with attributes like giant natural boobs (without the stomach to go along with it) that you rarely see on the street, just for variety. You just don't really see that on there anymore outside of people looking for online only. A big part IS losing Windsor though, women on that side of the border were generally fitter and more attractive.
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[QUOTE=FunnyBoner;4906973]Nevermind. I read that wrong.
Is 500/month about the right average?[/QUOTE]Curious as well what this monger means by $500 a month.
Most of the sugar babies who want a monthly allowance will ask for $2,000-$3,000 per month. A few crazy ones will ask for $4,000 or more. Go figure!
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I'd say the average price asked for is 300 per date, so monthly would probably at least be 1500+, given that they automatically would feel like they'd be putting more time into it to keep it going. 500 is basically 125 per date, which I haven't really seen from anyone with a full set of teeth.
[QUOTE=Robertin75;4907779]Curious as well what this monger means by $500 a month.
Most of the sugar babies who want a monthly allowance will ask for $2,000-$3,000 per month. A few crazy ones will ask for $4,000 or more. Go figure![/QUOTE]
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Monthly vs PPM
[QUOTE=BrandoM;4908247]I'd say the average price asked for is 300 per date, so monthly would probably at least be 1500+, given that they automatically would feel like they'd be putting more time into it to keep it going. 500 is basically 125 per date, which I haven't really seen from anyone with a full set of teeth.[/QUOTE]I don't know who you guys are seeing, but I have rarely come across those $2500 / month women. Now I have paid $300 ppm for only ONE chick from the site and that's because she was an absolute knockout. Like the kind that no one would question. She's a yoga instructor and sex addict admittedly. Everyone else I may pay $200-250 if they are good looking or if they agree to meet at there place. But for the most part its $150-200. And that for women who average 6. 5-7 to 9 on the looks scale. I don't really even bother with the young 18-24 yr old hot ones because they seem to only want to seel pics and vids. Or want more than what I'm willing to offer. That 18 yr old diamond in the rough I found a few months ago. Ghosted me after 3 meet ups. She finally responded and said she had met someone willing to pay her more. I told congrats and good luck.
I think it just depends on what you are lookimg for. Like the other guy who posted recently, I deal now mostly with older women 35-45. Most are not about games. And I have noticed they seem to be more open to letting me do things to them the young girls frown upon. (cumming on face, anal, rimming. Etc). I'm seeing a single mom now, 43, great body, about a 7 in the face. But she's so lonely when her kids are away that she'll call me over to f*ck and won't even charge me. She told me she'll only charge when I call her. But if she calls me, it's on the house. Ill take that instead of a young hot chick with GPS any day.
I still see Carter on occasion. Great body. Great performance and she only asks for $150. Although she's 27, no one could argue her body isn't as tight as a 21 yr old.
You just got to find them. Their out there.
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[QUOTE=BrandoM;4908247]I'd say the average price asked for is 300 per date, so monthly would probably at least be 1500+, given that they automatically would feel like they'd be putting more time into it to keep it going. 500 is basically 125 per date, which I haven't really seen from anyone with a full set of teeth.[/QUOTE]Well, she reneged on our agreement after she learned the ropes. Saw her twice for the 500 and then she said she wanted more. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
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Always something
Argh. I go to update my membership with Seeking and get my account suspended for doing so. Just curious if anyone else has had this problem recently.
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[QUOTE=HungaryMan;4913814]Argh. I go to update my membership with Seeking and get my account suspended for doing so. Just curious if anyone else has had this problem recently.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by account suspended just by updating your membership?
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Just that
[QUOTE=Robertin75;4913893]What do you mean by account suspended just by updating your membership?[/QUOTE]Exactly what I wrote here. I went to upgrade, entered card info, and next screen was that my account was suspended. I checked the card to see if an amount was posted and no, nothing was posted.
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[QUOTE=JohnInv;4912209]I don't know who you guys are seeing, but I have rarely come across those $2500 / month women. Now I have paid $300 ppm for only ONE chick from the site and that's because she was an absolute knockout. Like the kind that no one would question. She's a yoga instructor and sex addict admittedly. Everyone else I may pay $200-250 if they are good looking or if they agree to meet at there place. But for the most part its $150-200. And that for women who average 6. 5-7 to 9 on the looks scale. I don't really even bother with the young 18-24 yr old hot ones because they seem to only want to seel pics and vids. Or want more than what I'm willing to offer. That 18 yr old diamond in the rough I found a few months ago. Ghosted me after 3 meet ups. She finally responded and said she had met someone willing to pay her more. I told congrats and good luck.
I think it just depends on what you are lookimg for. Like the other guy who posted recently, I deal now mostly with older women 35-45. Most are not about games. And I have noticed they seem to be more open to letting me do things to them the young girls frown upon. (cumming on face, anal, rimming. Etc). I'm seeing a single mom now, 43, great body, about a 7 in the face. But she's so lonely when her kids are away that she'll call me over to f*ck and won't even charge me. She told me she'll only charge when I call her. But if she calls me, it's on the house. Ill take that instead of a young hot chick with GPS any day.
I still see Carter on occasion. Great body. Great performance and she only asks for $150. Although she's 27, no one could argue her body isn't as tight as a 21 yr old.
You just got to find them. Their out there.[/QUOTE]That may be the difference. I think I cut off my search at 30 or so, and haven't really met anyone over, say, 26.
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LOL, that's meant, you were reported by a girl who felt you treated like a hooker. LOL again.
You shouldn't offer money or say the word hook up. You must use fwb, nsa and allowance.
[QUOTE=HungaryMan;4914527]Exactly what I wrote here. I went to upgrade, entered card info, and next screen was that my account was suspended. I checked the card to see if an amount was posted and no, nothing was posted.[/QUOTE]
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Swap numbers
Just moved here, already met and hooked up with about 5 sbs from seeking. Screw that other site. Seeking is where it's at. It's just a full tome job sometimes it seems because you REALLY have to filter out the fakes, cashapp scammers, and pros. If anyone wants to TRADE numbers pm me. Trade, not receive for free or I'll gladly give you one when I meet one bs. If you know cute white girls under 30 from seeking that you have met, aren't on the gps and are dtf cool girls then lmk.
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Actually no
[QUOTE=VirCof;4916370]LOL, that's meant, you were reported by a girl who felt you treated like a hooker. LOL again.
You shouldn't offer money or say the word hook up. You must use fwb, nsa and allowance.[/QUOTE]I had no contact with anyone recently as I did not yet have an upgraded account. I made contact with the site and they said sometimes the AI triggers something to shut down an account. Kinda scary that can happen at any time. Just imagine you upgrade and 2 days later you are kicked off for no reason. They reinstated my account though. Not sure I want to upgrade now.