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[QUOTE=JayCramer80;5607446]The owner is probably still abusing the girls. He rapes them and threatens them if they won't fuck him. There are plenty of places to go without us supporting some piss ant abusive MF.[/QUOTE]I have yet to find 3rd, and was hoping I could try it out. But if this is true then I will definitely not be supporting this piece of trash by going.
[QUOTE=SouthrnGuy;5607083]So the area around LJs is changing and wonder if for the best and maybe we should change some lingo to reflect this.
To start there is a new restaurant opened right across the parking lot. Doesn't seem to have much business as of yet. The old LJs has been refurbished and is now open serving Cajan food. Ahh the drawbacks of gentrification I hope the owners do no complain or call attention to the function of the neighbors.
So If LJs is no longer a clear land mark or point of distinction perhaps we should update our reference to to the operation. I recommend Crawdaddy. Love to see and hear other suggestions.
Be safe and happy hunting.
Peace our.
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[QUOTE=BkrGuyRva;5607392]This used to be my "go to" place until earlier this year when they replaced the young girl with an older woman, probably in her very late 50's, who appeared impaired. One visit with her was enough. In August I checked the place and, much to my enjoyment, the young girl was back. Three weeks later she was replaced with a cute petite lady in her 50's who gave an excellent massage (not a body rub) allowing liberal OTC. I visited today and she has been replaced with a tiny lady in her 50's. She placed me in the room, held up two fingers, and said "10 minutes". Which turned into 35 minutes. Mediocre asymmetrical body rub. Rubbed shoulder to feet on the left side but skipped most of the back on the right side. Communicating with her about wanting a harder rub and to finish my back was useless as her English vocabulary is limited to very few words: yes, no, 10 minutes, sorry, tip, fifty-dollars, forty. Absolutely no OTC allowed. During the massage she left to talk to one customer and took five calls staying in the room to complete three of them. One while still rubbing me. On the flip she did a light neck to foot rub which was very arousing the said to me "tip", handed me my pants (I did not ask her to do this) and said $50. I said no. She said $40, I said no (too many interruptions and poor massage). She accepted $30. By then I had lost any desire and finished 10 minutes early. While YMMV, I recommend that you save your money and go elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I'm with you on this place. The range there from visit to visit has been so wide. I've stopped bothering. I get that at most of these places, it is a game of roulette to see who is working. But for most places, the overall experience remains within a general acceptable range. Here, after a couple of extremely disappointing visits, I've got dropped this place off my rotation. I'd rather go to one of my legit AMPs and get a proper massage without a HE than go there and hope.
[QUOTE=JayCramer80;5607446]The owner is probably still abusing the girls. He rapes them and threatens them if they won't fuck him. There are plenty of places to go without us supporting some piss ant abusive MF.[/QUOTE]I have read these comments. I do know quite well some of the all star girls that have worked there, and have heard a different version of events specific. That being said, I always error on the side of the girl's story.
So I had a dream I was in an AMP and the lady said for $ she'll remove top and pants with the HE. I was short a fifth of that but said Ok this time only. And she wore bra and panties and allowed me to expose nipples to enjoy (rather perky, but was limited with the amount of butt meat she had in stock. Great massage, lots of OTC prior to the UTC. Is $ the going rate? Don't want to overspend, and leave some room for negotiation. Anyway, stay safe playas!
Had a dream about some Sisters and found a lot of Joy in doing so. Dreamed for an hr, a room in the front with a closed door. Seems like all rooms had doors and not billowing curtains which is great. Body felt great 7/10 and was Joyful when my wish for more pressure was granted. On the flip, no negotiating, no Brazilian jitsu's, but was allowed to see and feel the bags of fun (large pepperonis! Which I love.). Had a great handshake and was rewarded with a large water bottle and mint. Gratuities were at my discretion. Overall, would repeat.
[QUOTE=Random420;5608743]So I had a dream I was in an AMP and the lady said for $ she'll remove top and pants with the HE. I was short a fifth of that but said Ok this time only. And she wore bra and panties and allowed me to expose nipples to enjoy (rather perky, but was limited with the amount of butt meat she had in stock. Great massage, lots of OTC prior to the UTC. Is $ the going rate? Don't want to overspend, and leave some room for negotiation. Anyway, stay safe playas![/QUOTE]I don't know if it is the "going rate" - but the couple of times I've paid $, it has been top, bra, pants and panties are sitting on the floor. Those times I agreed no FS, but I definitely wanted to "pet the kitty" with proper access.
Then again, last time I got offered the $ rate. I passed because I can get FS for that.
Usually if I'm willing to pay $ for non-FS is based on: (1) her hotness; (2) my horniness; and (3) if I think more might be available next time.
[QUOTE=BowTieGuy394;5608806]I don't know if it is the "going rate" - but the couple of times I've paid $, it has been top, bra, pants and panties are sitting on the floor. Those times I agreed no FS, but I definitely wanted to "pet the kitty" with proper access.
Then again, last time I got offered the $ rate. I passed because I can get FS for that.
Usually if I'm willing to pay $ for non-FS is based on: (1) her hotness; (2) my horniness; and (3) if I think more might be available next time.[/QUOTE]Guys if you pay for this bullshit then they will continue to increase prices. I mean $ in an AMP is for full service. Now these b&tches are trying to ask for $ just to take off clothes with no FS. That is stupid. Guys please don't do it. They are continuing to suck more money out of us for the fat ugly women who provide crappy service. Stay strong men!
[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;5609524]Guys if you pay for this bullshit then they will continue to increase prices. I mean $ in an AMP is for full service. Now these b&tches are trying to ask for $ just to take off clothes with no FS. That is stupid. Guys please don't do it. They are continuing to suck more money out of us for the fat ugly women who provide crappy service. Stay strong men![/QUOTE]For the older road hard and put wet girls, I agree with you. For the Young hot good looking ones who only offer FS to limited number of clientele, Being cheap doesn't get me what I want.
[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;5609524]Guys if you pay for this bullshit then they will continue to increase prices. I mean $ in an AMP is for full service. Now these b&tches are trying to ask for $ just to take off clothes with no FS. That is stupid. Guys please don't do it. They are continuing to suck more money out of us for the fat ugly women who provide crappy service. Stay strong men![/QUOTE]I agree. If it's a busy place these girls are clocking a grand a day tax free. Not a bad gig.
[QUOTE=JayCramer80;5609549]For the Young hot good looking ones who only offer FS to limited number of clientele, Being cheap doesn't get me what I want.[/QUOTE]My problem is all the AMPs I go to I never see Young hot good looking ones.
[QUOTE=BattleBot61;5609681]My problem is all the AMPs I go to I never see Young hot good looking ones.[/QUOTE]They are fewer and in between for sure. There are some up near Fred and Stafford. I used to see a good looking girl at Brokke Rd. But she's in Philly now. And back when the Mountain first opened. YoYo was petite and cute too.
[QUOTE=Rvarva2969;5609577]I agree. If it's a busy place these girls are clocking a grand a day tax free. Not a bad gig.[/QUOTE]I know several girls. They aint making that much. I try to avoid the ones who are f**king anything that walks through the door. Plus some days during the week they only get a customer or two. The weekends are their busy days. They usually have to pay the store rent for staying there too or the store rents them a room somewhere. At 40-60 tip they'd have to dobalot massages to make 1000 a day. One girl I know makes about 3000 a month in tips.
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My second session with Sindy for her Nuru. Such talent and skill. She's fun to talk with as well. Treat her kindly.
New AMP in Food Lion strip building in Deer Run on Hull St. I stopped in for a quick visit. Place is newly built all brand new. One girl working, She was in 30's, slender, spoke some English. I didn't have time for massage si I don't know what services are offered. Open 9 am to 9:30 pm. I'll try and TOFTT soon.