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[QUOTE=Xxofe; 1827252]My one trip to CLV went like this.
Pay for room and basic massage.
Lady comes in and strips to underwear.
Tip for top to come off.
Tip more to touch.
Tip for ending[/QUOTE]It is inappropriate to blanket all the girls at CLV as hagglers based on one experience. You're experienced enough to know there's always a chance to find a bad egg no matter where you go. Maybe I just find all the nice ones, but again, none of the 5 that I have seen did anything like that.
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Not to me either
[QUOTE=Teabagplain;1827288]It is inappropriate to blanket all the girls at CLV as hagglers based on one experience. You're experienced enough to know there's always a chance to find a bad egg no matter where you go. Maybe I just find all the nice ones, but again, none of the 5 that I have seen did anything like that.[/QUOTE]I have probably been to clv 10 times in the last 7 years. Never had it happen either. Normally once they offer to let you massage then the cloths come off. I will say there were a couple there that were on the older side that it may have been better if they had stayed clothed. LOL
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Complain
[QUOTE=Xxofe; 1827252]My one trip to CLV went like this.
Pay for room and basic massage.
Lady comes in and strips to underwear.
Tip for top to come off.
Tip more to touch.
Tip for ending[/QUOTE]Stop the massage and ask for another woman. Management will ask why and tell them. Say you never have a problem down the street. Be
Polite and firm. Rocket Dork
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Erotic Upsell
[QUOTE=Rocket Dork; 1827589]Stop the massage and ask for another woman. Management will ask why and tell them. Say you never have a problem down the street. Be
Polite and firm. Rocket Dork[/QUOTE]I beleive this happens from time to time in all forms of Erotic Entertainment. Strip Clubs, Massage Parlours, Escorts, Etc.
For Strip Clubs I usually spend a good deal of time of talking to and observing a girl before doing dances to gauge her personality and skills. I always do pay after dance and if anything bad like upsells or air dance happen I walk and don't pay.
That's why I think reviews of specific women in the eroctic industry on here are important.
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Erin at ERS
[QUOTE=Teabagplain;1800705]Saw a name on the ERS schedule I didn't recognize-Erin. (Or is it simply that it's been so long since I've been to ERS that I am starting to forget some of the girls.) Does anybody know anything about her?[/QUOTE]It took a while for me to get out that way, but am able to answer my own question now. White, mid-20s, shoulder-length brown hair, TINY-less than 5 feet tall and probably less than a 100 pounds. She's from the South (has an accent) , has a moderate number of tattoos-none that bothered me, and has evidence of kids. She has a really cute face, soft skin, B-cups, tiny bit of a belly (pregnancy leftover) , but is otherwise fairly trim. Her massage was okay. She obviously isn't trained, but tried to put some muscle into working my back-certainly better than some of the massages I've gotten there. The finish was okay. It wasn't bad, but didn't stand out either. I do wish she would have smiled once in a while.
If you like small women, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone smaller than her.
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Erin info
[QUOTE=Teabagplain; 1829400]It took a while for me to get out that way, but am able to answer my own question now. White, mid-20s, shoulder-length brown hair, TINY-less than 5 feet tall and probably less than a 100 pounds. She's from the South (has an accent) , has a moderate number of tattoos-none that bothered me, and has evidence of kids. She has a really cute face, soft skin, B-cups, tiny bit of a belly (pregnancy leftover) , but is otherwise fairly trim. Her massage was okay. She obviously isn't trained, but tried to put some muscle into working my back-certainly better than some of the massages I've gotten there. The finish was okay. It wasn't bad, but didn't stand out either. I do wish she would have smiled once in a while.
If you like small women, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone smaller than her.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great description. She sounds adorable (right up my alley). What is the current door charge / base fee at ERS? Thinking about heading up there for the first time later this week.
Thanks.
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Ers
[QUOTE=JclAhern; 1831293]Thanks for the great description. She sounds adorable (right up my alley). What is the current door charge / base fee at ERS? Thinking about heading up there for the first time later this week.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]The current door fee is $95.
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[QUOTE=MontataBoy;1833065]The current door fee is $95.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Just under the "I'll risk it on the street" amount.
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My 2 faves at CLV?
So I had an appointment with my favorite girl at CLV today and what do I stumble upon. My favorite girl from ERS. Nina is now at CLV. What is a guy to do. Book a 2 girl! Honestly, I'm kind of torn. Both ladies are awesome. I guess I'll just have to take turns.
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CLV Jamie
Visited with the other new lady at CLV Jamie and a standard good time was had by all. If you are a leg and ass man you need to check this out. Does anyone know this lady from any of the other stops?
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As always and based on.
Current conditions, YMMV.
Now I go waaay back in the day at both CLV and ERS (even when GT in Rockford was open in afternoon). I can remember getting more then expected once at CLV (girl was leaving, said she enjoyed my time and gave me a little extra, got same once in Madison at that Sun place in late 80's). Also remember getting nothing more than a hot tub tease at ERS. Then found that out for a month or so, things were dicey so nothing but massage was available. That again was, if I remember, late 80's. That's when I started to go to Whatever Nancy Rae's, Northside was before those names.
That's why I always take with a grain of salt what is true and not on any board. Because things happen.
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[QUOTE=Tradewins;1836209]Visited with the other new lady at CLV Jamie and a standard good time was had by all. If you are a leg and ass man you need to check this out. Does anyone know this lady from any of the other stops?[/QUOTE]I remember a Jamie from a few years ago in ERS. She was great. Looks like I have to check out CLV soon. Especially since Nina is also there. I have never been to CLV (always to ERS). What is the door fee there?
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[QUOTE=Klt5944;1837872]I remember a Jamie from a few years ago in ERS. She was great. Looks like I have to check out CLV soon. Especially since Nina is also there. I have never been to CLV (always to ERS). What is the door fee there?[/QUOTE]Door fee is 85.
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As a first timer at either ERS or CLV, how much cash would any of you veterans suggest I have on me?
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[QUOTE=GotMilf;1840159]As a first timer at either ERS or CLV, how much cash would any of you veterans suggest I have on me?[/QUOTE]Can't talk about CLV as I haven't been there in years. At ERS the only money you NEED is the door fee. Ladies shouldn't, and in my experience never ask for a tip. That being said I always tip anywhere from 20-40 depending on the quality of service on that individual day.
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[QUOTE=Xxofe;1840784]Can't talk about CLV as I haven't been there in years. At ERS the only money you NEED is the door fee. Ladies shouldn't, and in my experience never ask for a tip. That being said I always tip anywhere from 20-40 depending on the quality of service on that individual day.[/QUOTE]Cool. Thanks.
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Amanda at ERS
I last saw Amanda several months ago. At that time, I reported that I wasn't really impressed with her massage. Just wanted to update that she has really improved her massage skills since then. She's certainly not up to the level of a good CMT, but I was still pleasantly surprised. It was one of the better massages I've had at ERS--and a vast improvement compared to the massage I got from her in the spring.
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Oldest / Youngest
Since I have made up my mind only place I'm going from here on out is ERS since I feel its the safest. Question, who is the oldest and who is the youngest at ERS?
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ERS Visit. Help Please
I really hate to ask this. But I hope someone provide an answer. I am planning a trip to ERS from the Milwaukee area (I have my card, but it's been years). And am looking for a specific type: Older, not younger, not a spinner, Taller as opposed to shorter (5'8 or better) a good midwestern girl with a little meat on her. Real hips and not too skinnny legs. Also the perfect girl would have smaller breasts as opposed to large "melons'.
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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Samantha or dawn.
[QUOTE=Mr Old Style; 1843825]I really hate to ask this. But I hope someone provide an answer. I am planning a trip to ERS from the Milwaukee area (I have my card, but it's been years). And am looking for a specific type: Older, not younger, not a spinner, Taller as opposed to shorter (5'8 or better) a good midwestern girl with a little meat on her. Real hips and not too skinnny legs. Also the perfect girl would have smaller breasts as opposed to large "melons'.
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Both older then 35. The difference dawn is more on the spinner side with a nice pair of Bolt on's. Samantha is thicker the. Dawn but nice body none the less. Nice set of natural see's. Cuba chick with brown frizzy hair. U can't go wrong with either if you want older. This is ers. Go and see Jenna at CLV if tits and thick is your game. Older lady that is 49 and there is now way In hell she looks it. More like 40. She has dark hard and is a hard core italian. Again, she is not fat but has some meat to her. Natural see's as well. All 3 will never be a disappointment.
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Ers
I agree with biscuit. 2 good choices. But Dawn is still my fav.
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[QUOTE=Bigguyfromfort;1842887]Since I have made up my mind only place I'm going from here on out is ERS since I feel its the safest. Question, who is the oldest and who is the youngest at ERS?[/QUOTE]See posts below about Samantha and Dawn for oldest. I am guessing Dawn is a little older, but don't know for sure. Youngest may be tough to figure out exactly because there are a bunch of girls there about the same age. Erin is 26. Amanda is 24 or 25. Don't know how old Kelly or Danielle are, but they are probably in the same neighborhood.
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What's a good excuse
Thinking of giving ERS a try.
Normally, my excuse for a long drive is to go to a shooting range in Addison, that takes over 2hrs.
Is there a shooting range or gun store in Belvidere or similar?
I don't play golf, so, I have no such equipment to be seen, or even fishing poles.
Only my gun.
What's your excuse?
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Excuses
Working late,
Going for a movie with friends,
Watching a game with friends,
Probably used this once: Getting the breaks done.
[QUOTE=Poogee; 1856600]Thinking of giving ERS a try.
Normally, my excuse for a long drive is to go to a shooting range in Addison, that takes over 2hrs.
Is there a shooting range or gun store in Belvidere or similar?
I don't play golf, so, I have no such equipment to be seen, or even fishing poles.
Only my gun.
What's your excuse?[/QUOTE]
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ERS Kayla
Has anybody seen the new girl Kayla? Description?
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Kayla at ERS
[QUOTE=MontataBoy;1861398]Has anybody seen the new girl Kayla? Description?[/QUOTE]Mid 20s. I think she's Latina, but not sure. Brown hair to shoulders. The ends of her hair are blonde. I don't know if this was a style decision or if she had bleached her hair previously and was now letting it grow out-I suspect the latter. She is a bit on the thick side in the hips and thighs. Probably about 5'8 or 5'9. Large natural chest. Her massage was decent. Being a bigger girl, she has some muscle she can put into her strokes. She did an especially good job on my legs. I also liked her finish technique. She starts out slow and builds things up-didn't feel rushed at all. She is very quiet-no small talk at all. I don't talk much either, so this wasn't a problem for me. Overall, she's okay, but I tend to prefer the petite girls.
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CLV rate increase
On a side note, CLV increased their rate to 95 / hr, same as ERS. Makes ERS the cheaper option if you go enough to take advantage of the punchcard.
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CLV door fee
[QUOTE=Teabagplain;1863174]On a side note, CLV increased their rate to 95 / hr, same as ERS. Makes ERS the cheaper option if you go enough to take advantage of the punchcard.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I'm going to go out on a limb, I have always preferred CLV over ERS. I always have a great time at both places but I get better massages at CLV hands down. The door fee used to be 95 a couple years ago but apparently the owner decided it was time to go back.
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Rockford Ranges
[QUOTE=Poogee; 1856600]Thinking of giving ERS a try.
Normally, my excuse for a long drive is to go to a shooting range in Addison, that takes over 2hrs.
Is there a shooting range or gun store in Belvidere or similar?
I don't play golf, so, I have no such equipment to be seen, or even fishing poles.
Only my gun.
What's your excuse?[/QUOTE]I tell her Bullet Stop in Rockford or Kap Guns in Loves Park. Kap has a small indoor range.
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Erin ERS
Very friendly and very pretty face.
Great ass
I would say she was a 7
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Excuses
[QUOTE=Poogee; 1856600]Thinking of giving ERS a try.
Normally, my excuse for a long drive is to go to a shooting range in Addison, that takes over 2hrs.
Is there a shooting range or gun store in Belvidere or similar?
I don't play golf, so, I have no such equipment to be seen, or even fishing poles.
Only my gun.
What's your excuse?[/QUOTE]Hey Poogee. You gripe that you do not play golf and only have your gun as an excuse. Its simple dude. START MORE HOBBIES. That's it. Find some you can at least bear a little and build your excuse list. I added going to the gym a year ago and that is hands down THE BEST. Why. SHOWER TIME! So take up weight lifting. Take up movie going. Take up golf. Get a cheap set of clubs and dammit take up golf. Remember. You are not doing these things to enjoy them but to build a repertoire of excuses!
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No Excuse
Poogee, Luckily I don't need one anymore. I commend you for driving that far to sooth the itch.
[QUOTE=Poogee; 1856600]Thinking of giving ERS a try.
Normally, my excuse for a long drive is to go to a shooting range in Addison, that takes over 2hrs.
Is there a shooting range or gun store in Belvidere or similar?
I don't play golf, so, I have no such equipment to be seen, or even fishing poles.
Only my gun.
What's your excuse?[/QUOTE]
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ERS Jennifer
Had a great time with Jennifer on Saturday. Very nice and easy going and good conversation.
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NinaatCLV
[QUOTE=Klt5944;1837872]I remember a Jamie from a few years ago in ERS. She was great. Looks like I have to check out CLV soon. Especially since Nina is also there. I have never been to CLV (always to ERS). What is the door fee there?[/QUOTE]I went to CLV last week to see Nina. It was very nice to see her again, after the little break. It was a nice little catch up with her.
This was my first trip to CLV. The door fee is 95 now.
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Excuses
Now this is a fun topic. My hobbies always backfire on me because my wife eventually gets interested in my hobbies and makes them hers (meaning ours). Now I have so many hobbies, that I don't have enough time for one of my favorite hobbies. I have found a couple things she can't tolerate, so I have maybe 2-3 days a month to go out and play. And definately not enough time to trek all the way out to ERS. So there you have it. Hobbies for the hobbyist. Also, I go for regular therapeutic massages, and that excuse works well too.
[QUOTE=Poogee; 1856600]Thinking of giving ERS a try.
Normally, my excuse for a long drive is to go to a shooting range in Addison, that takes over 2hrs.
Is there a shooting range or gun store in Belvidere or similar?
I don't play golf, so, I have no such equipment to be seen, or even fishing poles.
Only my gun.
What's your excuse?[/QUOTE]
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Question for all of you
So I go to CLV a couple days ago, made no appointment and decided to take a girl I don't normally see, I won't mention who because its not my place to. Well anyways, I'm getting my massage, chit chatting and all of the sudden she starts talking about other girls, and saying that their all mean to her and this and that and I finally asked her to stop. Does anyone beside me find this inappropriate or is it just me?
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Yes, this totally distracts from the experience. I went to a place in the burbs where all the girl did was say how fat all the other girls were. Really bad attitude.
[QUOTE=Ohyou812;1874744]So I go to CLV a couple days ago, made no appointment and decided to take a girl I don't normally see, I won't mention who because its not my place to. Well anyways, I'm getting my massage, chit chatting and all of the sudden she starts talking about other girls, and saying that their all mean to her and this and that and I finally asked her to stop. Does anyone beside me find this inappropriate or is it just me?[/QUOTE]
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Yes you're right but.
[QUOTE=Ohyou812;1874744]So I go to CLV a couple days ago, made no appointment and decided to take a girl I don't normally see, I won't mention who because its not my place to. Well anyways, I'm getting my massage, chit chatting and all of the sudden she starts talking about other girls, and saying that their all mean to her and this and that and I finally asked her to stop. Does anyone beside me find this inappropriate or is it just me?[/QUOTE]I agree that it's inappropriate but that was a good opportunity to get to know her.
That may have sounded weird. This will too and maybe you did this. It was a good time to understand her personality and hose of the other girls. There are other opportunities this could open up if you have game. Every situation is an opportunity. I won't say anything here but I hope U-turned that situation into something good for both of you.
I also agree with you asking her to stop. It's just about how you do it so that both parties are comfortable and you both get to enjoy the session even more.
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[QUOTE=Rubenme2; 1875506]I agree that it's inappropriate but that was a good opportunity to get to know her.
That may have sounded weird. This will too and maybe you did this. It was a good time to understand her personality and hose of the other girls. There are other opportunities this could open up if you have game. Every situation is an opportunity. I won't say anything here but I hope U-turned that situation into something good for both of you.
I also agree with you asking her to stop. It's just about how you do it so that both parties are comfortable and you both get to enjoy the session even more.[/QUOTE]Honestly, the session was okay, and I actually was okay with how the session went but I will not repeat with her again because of that reason. It was just the first time I have ever experienced this at any place I have been to.
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Ers
Was looking at the schedule and I don't see Erin on it this week, was going to go this week and try her. Anyone know if she is still around?