Geneva IL

All the girls working need to be aware of any internet ad specials and honor those specials. I understand the language barrier but that's not your problem. I'm baffled by how well these ladies survive IN USA not knowing the language.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2804646]I took a ride over to Geneva tonight for the Chinese New Year special. I walked in and was greeted by a woman who was between 40 and 45 with curly hair. She took me to the room and I handed her. 8 for the 90 minute special. She had no clue what I was talking about and we spent about 5 minutes arguing about the CL ad because it was obvious that nobody told her about it. I finally just told her to forget it that I was leaving, and the she grabbed my arm and said "No No No. " At this point she left and I could hear her talking in the hallway in Chinese. After a minute the door opens and it was everybody's favorite MT, she came in and gave me a hug and asked me what was going on. I explained to her what was going on and she told me she would fix it. After a few minutes the older lady came back and started her rub. During the first few minutes she kept yawning so I offered to give her a massage. This didn't go so well because she was so tired she didn't want me to stop. She also had really dry skin so I had to spend like 15 minutes putting lotion on her and rubbing it into her dry skin. The very little part of the session that was for me, sucked. She was a total clock watcher and her hand technique could be best described as painful. I probably won't be able to go to an AMP for a week now because I am raw from her savage treatment of my little guy. The worst part about the whole thing is knowing that the All-Star was working and I ended about with a the league player. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

Like DMichaels says, there is no excuse for such poor service.

My only 2 cents is perhaps call ahead for an appointment. It's not new advice, of course, but I've always tried to get to know the owners and managers at places I go. Then I call at least a half hour ahead for an appointment and make sure who I will be getting. A well-run place wants to make sure they keep their regulars happy. They sometimes offer "unadvertised" specials. They make accommodations, sometimes including off hours appointments. Bring fruit or chocolate. Anything to make you popular among the workers. If she has dry skin use baby oil. Much slipperier. OR try a body-to-body massage. I promise you won't need her hand in that case. But really, it sounds like you had the wrong MT. So call ahead. Bob.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2804646]I took a ride over to Geneva tonight for the Chinese New Year special. I walked in and was greeted by a woman who was between 40 and 45 with curly hair. She took me to the room and I handed her. 8 for the 90 minute special. She had no clue what I was talking about and we spent about 5 minutes arguing about the CL ad because it was obvious that nobody told her about it. I finally just told her to forget it that I was leaving, and the she grabbed my arm and said "No No No. " At this point she left and I could hear her talking in the hallway in Chinese. After a minute the door opens and it was everybody's favorite MT, she came in and gave me a hug and asked me what was going on. I explained to her what was going on and she told me she would fix it. After a few minutes the older lady came back and started her rub. During the first few minutes she kept yawning so I offered to give her a massage. This didn't go so well because she was so tired she didn't want me to stop. She also had really dry skin so I had to spend like 15 minutes putting lotion on her and rubbing it into her dry skin. The very little part of the session that was for me, sucked. She was a total clock watcher and her hand technique could be best described as painful. I probably won't be able to go to an AMP for a week now because I am raw from her savage treatment of my little guy. The worst part about the whole thing is knowing that the All-Star was working and I ended about with a the league player. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

It really amazes me also. What makes a Chinese woman decide to come to America, without knowing any English. I always ask them about their homes and lives in China. Why did they come, etc. Many are divorced. It is possible to connect with someone without using any words. I met a woman five years ago at Yu's Foot Spa. Here six months when I met her. Divorced. But somehow we formed a connection. I came to the shop weekly. She would do this thing where she pulled my arm. So I'd pull back. She'd giggle. So it became a weekly joke. She'd do this thing on my shoulder three times. So I learned to count to three in Chinese while she did it. Then I would add numbers, and she would help me learn to count to ten. So she did the shoulder squeeze thing ten times while counting. And then she would high-five me. Our friendship progressed. I was learning Chinese from her and she was learning English from me. We'd go places on her day off. I taught her to drive my car. A year ago she moved to LA to be with her son. She speaks English and drives a car. We stay in touch. I have a standing invitation to visit her in California. I'm awed by the courage it takes to come the the USA with nothing. And somehow find the American dream. I don't think I would have the courage to do what they do. I'm glad I can help a couple of them along this journey. And yes. I get a lot in return. Bob.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2804881]All the girls working need to be aware of any internet ad specials and honor those specials. I understand the language barrier but that's not your problem. I'm baffled by how well these ladies survive IN USA not knowing the language.[/QUOTE]

For the most part I don't go to an AMP close to when they are close to closing because they are too tired. I recommend you try again during the day if you can. Since this place opened I have made 2 appointments which both
got cancelled right before I pulled into the parking lot so now I just go and if they are busy I go somewhere else. In my experience most of the girls who worked or work here spoke little to no English with some exceptions.
I have been a few times over the past couple months and I feel in general they have a good line up.
[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2804646]I took a ride over to Geneva tonight for the Chinese New Year special. I walked in and was greeted by a woman who was between 40 and 45 with curly hair. She took me to the room and I handed her. 8 for the 90 minute special. She had no clue what I was talking about and we spent about 5 minutes arguing about the CL ad because it was obvious that nobody told her about it. I finally just told her to forget it that I was leaving, and the she grabbed my arm and said "No No No. " At this point she left and I could hear her talking in the hallway in Chinese. After a minute the door opens and it was everybody's favorite MT, she came in and gave me a hug and asked me what was going on. I explained to her what was going on and she told me she would fix it. After a few minutes the older lady came back and started her rub. During the first few minutes she kept yawning so I offered to give her a massage. This didn't go so well because she was so tired she didn't want me to stop. She also had really dry skin so I had to spend like 15 minutes putting lotion on her and rubbing it into her dry skin. The very little part of the session that was for me, sucked. She was a total clock watcher and her hand technique could be best described as painful. I probably won't be able to go to an AMP for a week now because I am raw from her savage treatment of my little guy. The worst part about the whole thing is knowing that the All-Star was working and I ended about with a the league player. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2806221]For the most part I don't go to an AMP close to when they are close to closing because they are too tired. I recommend you try again during the day if you can. Since this place opened I have made 2 appointments which both
got cancelled right before I pulled into the parking lot so now I just go and if they are busy I go somewhere else. In my experience most of the girls who worked or work here spoke little to no English with some exceptions.
I have been a few times over the past couple months and I feel in general they have a good line up.[/QUOTE]I agree what you are saying about making appointments, but the 2 times I have tried to make appointments at 2 different AMP's, the language barrier was just too much to overcome. The women on the phone would just keep repeating the same phrases "See you soon honey" or "You come now honey. " I also agree that it is probably not a good idea to show up at the end of their 12 hour shift and expect great service. I have found that the best service is very early in the day. I guess it is true, early bird get's the worm. The problem is that between work and other obligations I can't alway's show up at an AMP at 10 AM on a Monday, even though this would be the ideal time. I have also had nights that I showed up at an AMP later then I would like because of the fact that I went to 3 other AMP's and was told that it would be a 1 hour wait. So by the time I finally get to an AMP that has a girl available it is 8 or 8:30. As I reported 2 week's ago, I had to go to 3 different AMP's before I could finally get a session at a place that had a girl available, and this was on a Wednesday night. So I ended up at an AMP that I didn't want to be at and had a lousy time to top things off. I guess the only solution is just to tell my boss that I just can't work Monday's anymore. SaintChuck.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2804646]I took a ride over to Geneva tonight for the Chinese New Year special. I walked in and was greeted by a woman who was between 40 and 45 with curly hair. She took me to the room and I handed her. 8 for the 90 minute special. She had no clue what I was talking about and we spent about 5 minutes arguing about the CL ad because it was obvious that nobody told her about it. I finally just told her to forget it that I was leaving, and the she grabbed my arm and said "No No No. " At this point she left and I could hear her talking in the hallway in Chinese. After a minute the door opens and it was everybody's favorite MT, she came in and gave me a hug and asked me what was going on. I explained to her what was going on and she told me she would fix it. After a few minutes the older lady came back and started her rub. During the first few minutes she kept yawning so I offered to give her a massage. This didn't go so well because she was so tired she didn't want me to stop. She also had really dry skin so I had to spend like 15 minutes putting lotion on her and rubbing it into her dry skin. The very little part of the session that was for me, sucked. She was a total clock watcher and her hand technique could be best described as painful. I probably won't be able to go to an AMP for a week now because I am raw from her savage treatment of my little guy. The worst part about the whole thing is knowing that the All-Star was working and I ended about with a the league player. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]Did you catch her name?

I don't make appointments there anymore. I made two in the past and they were both cancelled just as I pulled in the parking lot. The first one because a monger wanted to extend their time and the other one because the monger was late.
If they are busy when I go, I end up going somewhere else.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2806985]I agree what you are saying about making appointments, but the 2 times I have tried to make appointments at 2 different AMP's, the language barrier was just too much to overcome. The women on the phone would just keep repeating the same phrases "See you soon honey" or "You come now honey. " I also agree that it is probably not a good idea to show up at the end of their 12 hour shift and expect great service. I have found that the best service is very early in the day. I guess it is true, early bird get's the worm. The problem is that between work and other obligations I can't alway's show up at an AMP at 10 AM on a Monday, even though this would be the ideal time. I have also had nights that I showed up at an AMP later then I would like because of the fact that I went to 3 other AMP's and was told that it would be a 1 hour wait. So by the time I finally get to an AMP that has a girl available it is 8 or 8:30. As I reported 2 week's ago, I had to go to 3 different AMP's before I could finally get a session at a place that had a girl available, and this was on a Wednesday night. So I ended up at an AMP that I didn't want to be at and had a lousy time to top things off. I guess the only solution is just to tell my boss that I just can't work Monday's anymore. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2807472]I don't make appointments there anymore. I made two in the past and they were both cancelled just as I pulled in the parking lot. The first one because a monger wanted to extend their time and the other one because the monger was late.
If they are busy when I go, I end up going somewhere else.[/QUOTE]Does this place offer head and FS or just HJ's?

SC, I've read your recent reviews and you seem to have the worst service at AMPs. Either you give off a bad vibe or you need to change your strategy. Twice I've seen the same curly hair girl at Geneva and had a great TS and massage each time. I agree her english isn't good but that can be said for 90% of the girls who work at AMPs. She was very sweet and definitely not a clock watcher. I think she has potential to over take their most popular MT.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2804646]I took a ride over to Geneva tonight for the Chinese New Year special. I walked in and was greeted by a woman who was between 40 and 45 with curly
hair. She took me to the room and I handed her. 8 for the 90 minute special. She had no clue what I was talking about and we spent about 5 minutes arguing about the CL ad because it was obvious that nobody told her about it. I finally just told her to forget it that I was leaving, and the she grabbed my arm and said "No No No. " At this point she left and I could hear her talking in the hallway in Chinese. After a minute the door opens and it was everybody's favorite MT, she came in and gave me a hug and asked me what was going on. I explained to her what was going on and she told me she would fix it. After a few minutes the older lady came back and started her rub. During the first few minutes she kept yawning so I offered to give her a massage. This didn't go so well because she was so tired she didn't want me to stop. She also had really dry skin so I had to spend like 15 minutes putting lotion on her and rubbing it into her dry skin. The very little part of the session that was for me, sucked. She was a total clock watcher and her hand technique could be best described as painful. I probably won't be able to go to an AMP for a week now because I am raw from her savage treatment of my little guy. The worst part about the whole thing is knowing that the All-Star was working and I ended about with a the league player. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaliScorpio;2808182]SC, I've read your recent reviews and you seem to have the worst service at AMPs. Either you give off a bad vibe or you need to change your strategy. Twice I've seen the same curly hair girl at Geneva and had a great TS and massage each time. I agree her english isn't good but that can be said for 90% of the girls who work at AMPs. She was very sweet and definitely not a clock watcher. I think she has potential to over take their most popular MT.[/QUOTE]I will admit that I have had some recent bad luck at AMP's, but if you read my posts you will see that 2 weeks ago I had a great visit in St. Charles. Also I don't think that we had the same woman in Geneva, because you stated that your girl was in her 20's, and the girl I had was probably 45. So we didn't have the same girl. In January I had a very happy visit to Geneva with everyone's favorite MT. If you want you can PM me and I will tell you her name, but there is no way we had the same girl. SaintChuck.

It is curious how the same (maybe?) person delivers a great massage for one person and a poor one for the other person. I guess everyone is saying the same thing. Like DMichaels, I normally go as early as possible. A couple before the shop opens. Girl lets me in the back door so the owner does not know I'm there. One place, I went every single weekday at 8:30, and I would book a 10:00 appointment. So we would have breakfast and "play" for 90 minutes before the appointment actually began. I use WeChat to confirm with the girl and the phone to confirm the appointment with the owner.

But, as was also stated here, certain times and certain days are traditionally slow. If you go early on a Tuesday, you may have more time than if you go a Saturday night. Maybe. So The Saturday girl is tired. Maybe busy and looking at the clock. The tenth dick of the day is probably less interesting than the first of the day. And, SChuck, if you really really want a specific woman, make sure and plan accordingly. Bob.

[QUOTE=CaliScorpio;2808182]SC, I've read your recent reviews and you seem to have the worst service at AMPs. Either you give off a bad vibe or you need to change your strategy. Twice I've seen the same curly hair girl at Geneva and had a great TS and massage each time. I agree her english isn't good but that can be said for 90% of the girls who work at AMPs. She was very sweet and definitely not a clock watcher. I think she has potential to over take their most popular MT.[/QUOTE]

They were still honoring the New Year special as of yesterday. I followed up on recent recommendation about new girl there and was not disappointed. And if you like a very good massage, by a cute young and very pleasant AMP, you will like her too. Did not once ask for a tip. English is very bad. Not a whole lot else to report but Seniors can PM for additional info.

If I'm setting up an appointment, I usually text. The AMP's pretty much all operate off modern phones, so they can take a normal text, run it through an online translation program, and no language barrier. Doesn't stop them from cancelling if a customer decides to opt for a longer session, but it does spare you the frustration of having to try to explain what you're wanting without the required language skills on either end of the conversation.

What? You get to go before the shop opens and get to "play" with the girl for 90 minutes even before your actual appointment begins. Thats more like a "Bob special" I doubt would get extended to others. LOL.

[QUOTE=Bob521;2808406]I normally go as early as possible. A couple before the shop opens. Girl lets me in the back door so the owner does not know I'm there. One place, I went every single weekday at 8:30, and I would book a 10:00 appointment. So we would have breakfast and "play" for 90 minutes before the appointment actually began. Bob.[/QUOTE]

Its my understanding that this place may close soon because of the lack of business which is not surprising.

Yes you are correct. She's a close friend. Legit masseuse. Driving lessons, hotel rooms, trips into Chicago. She's the one who was threatened and I spent 11 hours with that one time. I see her 4-5 days a week, several hours a day. Refuses to accept tips, so I buy groceries and she cooks for me. It's not a business relationship at all. Bob.

[QUOTE=Lebruno;2810861]What? You get to go before the shop opens and get to "play" with the girl for 90 minutes even before your actual appointment begins. Thats more like a "Bob special" I doubt would get extended to others. LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2813434]Its my understanding that this place may close soon because of the lack of business which is not surprising.[/QUOTE]It would not be a surprise if they closed. When I drive by there at night I never see any vehicles there. The parking situation there is just awful, and I am sure that a lot of people aren't interested in going to the AMP that holds the Kane county record for most times getting busted. The other problem they might have is the fact that they are a very short drive from 6 other AMP's. I never understood how all these places could stay open in an area that has pretty low population rates. SaintChuck.

[QUOTE=Lebruno;2810861]What? You get to go before the shop opens and get to "play" with the girl for 90 minutes even before your actual appointment begins. Thats more like a "Bob special" I doubt would get extended to others. LOL.[/QUOTE]I used to do the same thing but I would ask to see her after work. Being that many of these girls "live" in the spa for weeks on end I would ask to see her after work. I would get there maybe 10 minutes after closing and she would usually ask me to give her a TS after a hard days work, followed by a massage and then we would lay down and watch some tv together and mess around. I did this with maybe 4 girls and was busy every week for over a year with them. Total cost $0. Of course, I would bring them gifts to show my appreciation and sometimes we would go out to dinner or something.

That was about 3 years ago and I am still "friends" with all of them however 2 of them are now out of state but they call every week. The other 2 still work doing massage here in Chicago but I don't see them much anymore because my life has changed, but we still talk every week and get together every once in a while. They are truly wonderful and nice girls.

It pays to be nice to them. You don't have to marry them but many are truly lonely and really appreciate a true friendship.

It never occurred to me that the AMP girls practically "live" in the Spa. Perhaps they have very limited social life outside of the Spa. I guess it'd be totally natural for them to establish a "personal" connection with the regulars that extends beyond a business appointment. If one has the time and some patience to go with it, it seems like greater mileage can be achieved at many AMPs.

[QUOTE=AvgJoe;2813675] Being that many of these girls "live" in the spa for weeks on end I would ask to see her after work. I would get there maybe 10 minutes after closing and she would usually ask me to give her a TS after a hard days work, followed by a massage and then we would lay down and watch some tv together and mess around. I did this with maybe 4 girls and was busy every week for over a year with them. Total cost $0. [/QUOTE]

It's sometimes worse than you can imagine. Not only do some girls literally live in the spa (and pay rent for the privilege), the shower, cooking, and other conditions are often limited. They must keep the lights off so the spa appears empty. Imagine being alone in an environment like that. Afraid of the dark and spending every night alone in the dark. I bought two friends flashlights and night lights. How's that for romantic? I bought (cheap $60) hotel rooms weekly for one so she could spend one night a week with lights, tv, hot shower. Taken them to zoos, museums, parks, dinner, just so they would have a little fun. Lucky for me the spa owners appreciate my business and look the other way when I hang around. The "mileage" is unlimited, for what it's worth. But I invest a huge amount of time, and the emotional toll is also huge. So I don't know if I could recommend it. But maybe, if you meet one person that you click with you can make a real change in both of your lives. Bob.

[QUOTE=Lebruno;2813956]It never occurred to me that the AMP girls practically "live" in the Spa. Perhaps they have very limited social life outside of the Spa. I guess it'd be totally natural for them to establish a "personal" connection with the regulars that extends beyond a business appointment. If one has the time and some patience to go with it, it seems like greater mileage can be achieved at many AMPs.[/QUOTE]

My weekend ski trips have been good. The latest was a young girl (30) , very good massage. She did give me a count down but did not hinder the experience.

I had not been here in a a few months. I went back and drew a nice lady, on the taller side, a little thick but I found her attractive. Started the massage. The outside door opens, she leaves the room and it was a couple that wanted a couples massage. She tells them 30 minutes, they decided to wait.
She starts talking to another girl doing a massage in the room next to ours in Chinese so I figured they were trying to figure out how to get rid of them. A few minutes later the other girl goes out and ask what they want. I hear her say, 45 minutes, then I don't speak English, then the couple leaves.
My lady finishes giving me a kick ass strong massage, very good standard finish. No tipping issues, no shorting on time, kick ass massage, sweet, friendly lady.

On my most recent ski trip, nice trip more of a rub as opposed to other trips. This ski instructor was a bit on the thick side, average looks, not too bad. Very good English, very sweet and friendly, no clock watching, no tipping issues.
At this point I would say this tourist destination is back on my recommend list.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69]My weekend ski trips have been good. The latest was a young girl (30) , very good massage. She did give me a count down but did not hinder the experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2825106]On my most recent ski trip, nice trip more of a rub as opposed to other trips. This ski instructor was a bit on the thick side, average looks, not too bad. Very good English, very sweet and friendly, no clock watching, no tipping issues.
At this point I would say this tourist destination is back on my recommend list.[/QUOTE]Is this the resort next to the Ace Hardware? If so, I haven't visited since late summer. May have to give it another look.

Has anyone visited Gem Spa on Wilson in Batavia if so what was the experience like?

Has anyone visited Gem Spa on Wilson in Batavia if so what was the experience like?

Very nice older lady, for me legit massage only.

[QUOTE=Thor23;2825427]Has anyone visited Gem Spa on Wilson in Batavia if so what was the experience like?[/QUOTE]

This morning I went to Best Massage in St. Charles. I walked in and there were 2 new girls that I have never seen before. As I was paying with my credit card another monger walked in, so I figured that rush hour was about to start. The girl I had was between 30 and 35 and about 5 ft. 3 and weighed about 120 or 130. She was ok looking. During the massage she had to keep leaving to answer the door, which was a major wood kill. On the flip I didn't say anything, she just took care of business. As I was leaving I saw another monger sitting on the couch and when I opened the door to leave I almost hit this old lady with the door. This white lady in her 60's went on in. When I got to my vehicle I saw another monger sitting in his car waiting for his turn. Then I saw the old woman walk out, they must of told her to beat it. This place has been so busy lately that you can forget about making an appointment or trying to beat the rush and showing up early on a Monday morning. If the massage light is on, they are busy. If you are in the area and they have time to see you, it is ok. I wouldn't go out of my way though. There are better options that are very close to this place. SaintChuck.

[QUOTE=WhiteRookDown;2783814]I'm sure everyone would agree we need MORE massage parlor women in French Maid or Nurse outfits![/QUOTE]Mmm. Wouldn't mind seeing some of those older, middle aged women in maid outfits myself.

I am sad to report that the spa at 1550 E. Main St. Has had a sharp decline in customer service lately. On a recent visit I had my 1 hour session cut in half because another monger came in and wanted a session. If they want to pull that crap so that they can increase their profits, good for them. But they need to put a sign up stating that they only do half hour sessions. I am fairly certain that I am not the only one that this has happened to recently. Hopefully about 8 or 9 more AMP's open in St. Charles this year, to keep up with the recent spike in Monger activity and the shortage of HAND'S. SaintChuck.

I stopped by and had an average massage. On the flip she started a lame ending that I had her stop. I tipped her for the massage. She looked at it and said "its not enough", I said that was all today. She said "no good". I said your right, it was no good. As I was walking out she was mumbling something in Chinese.

Not good. You would think the spa's would treat you with respect due to your repeat business in the fox valley area.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2833848]I am sad to report that the spa at 1550 E. Main St. Has had a sharp decline in customer service lately. On a recent visit I had my 1 hour session cut in half because another monger came in and wanted a session. If they want to pull that crap so that they can increase their profits, good for them. But they need to put a sign up stating that they only do half hour sessions. I am fairly certain that I am not the only one that this has happened to recently. Hopefully about 8 or 9 more AMP's open in St. Charles this year, to keep up with the recent spike in Monger activity and the shortage of HAND'S. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]Yes, with the increase in the number of spa's there is getting to be a shortage of working girls.

Several spa's have now gone to 1/2 hour sessions to accommodate more customers and increase profits with fewer complaints. Also, several owners have started calling girls who left and are working out of state to come back with the offer of a better deal. I personally know of 3 who are having a hard time finding staff.

And, you know what happens to prices when demand exceeds supply. This is not rocket science. LOL.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2834138]I stopped by and had an average massage. On the flip she started a lame ending that I had her stop. I tipped her for the massage. She looked at it and said "its not enough", I said that was all today. She said "no good". I said your right, it was no good. As I was walking out she was mumbling something in Chinese.[/QUOTE]I have done that twice in recent months. Both times at the Best Massage in see'Ville. One time she apologized and sent in a real closer (Linda) the other time I just left with a minimal tip. Sucks this is the current state of affairs. World Spa in Algonquin is pretty much my goto right now.

YMMV,

YM.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2833848]I am sad to report that the spa at 1550 E. Main St. Has had a sharp decline in customer service lately. .[/QUOTE]Oddly enough there is a new review of this location in RMs. It seems that monger thought that Hong the was excellent. I tend to believe St Chuck.

[QUOTE=Beast42;2834603]Oddly enough there is a new review of this location in RMs. It seems that monger thought that Hong the was excellent. I tend to believe St Chuck.[/QUOTE]I read that review and I found it to be a little on the shady side. First off, raspy voice couldn't give a real massage if her life depended on it. Prime example, last week when I was there I must have been taking too long to flip so she was basically doing CPR on my back. The part that raises an eyebrow is when he claimed that he left the tip on the table and left. I have had several visits with her and that's not how it goes down. You hand her the tip and she counts it before you leave the room, and if the tip is not to her liking she is going to let you know. This is just my opinion based on several visits with her. After my visit with her last week I will be taking a break from that place. SaintChuck.

Right now St Charles is in desperate need of an AMP that does a kick ass consistently good massage with all the requisite people skills and good manners so that everyone would be excited about it.
Geneva may be close to that but I'm looking for that WOW factor. I think someone could make a killing in St Charles with the right skill set and attitude.

[QUOTE=Beast42;2834603]Oddly enough there is a new review of this location in RMs. It seems that monger thought that Hong the was excellent. I tend to believe St Chuck.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely right. She has no massage skills. If she did she would not have to gravel for more money. I don't think that place will be there much longer. She told me business is very slow and its no surprise given her attitude.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2834873]I read that review and I found it to be a little on the shady side. First off, raspy voice couldn't give a real massage if her life depended on it. Prime example, last week when I was there I must have been taking too long to flip so she was basically doing CPR on my back. The part that raises an eyebrow is when he claimed that he left the tip on the table and left. I have had several visits with her and that's not how it goes down. You hand her the tip and she counts it before you leave the room, and if the tip is not to her liking she is going to let you know. This is just my opinion based on several visits with her. After my visit with her last week I will be taking a break from that place. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

EVERY town is in desperate need of an AMP such as you described. The AMP experience is not an experience, it's a ripoff and a joke.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2834885]Right now St Charles is in desperate need of an AMP that does a kick ass consistently good massage with all the requisite people skills and good manners so that everyone would be excited about it.
Geneva may be close to that but I'm looking for that WOW factor. I think someone could make a killing in St Charles with the right skill set and attitude.[/QUOTE]

On the topic of St. Charles, I wish that the Swiss All-Star would hurry up and open that new place in St. Charles. I am pretty sure that the place would be good if the entire staff has the same level of commitment to customer service that she has. If I make an AMP visit this weekend it seems like I will have to leave the friendly confines of the Fox Valley and venture out to new ground. SaintChuck.