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I've been to AMP's and seen rooms where they stay and there was garbage all over the place. Women can be bigger slobs then men when it comes to that. Getting back to your visit If its only juice then it should be flushed. This is lack of caring and training my the owner / manager if there is one. That's gross.

[QUOTE=SamSpade;3266749]Today I stopped by an AMP up in the far northern burbs. Never mind which one, it doesn't matter. The MT led me to the room, and I asked to use the washroom to pee and freshen up. So I'm aiming carefully and see the waste basket next to the toilet, and it is almost full with rolled up wads of tissues. Now understand, I didn't Need To Know, that happiness was available at this particular AMP. I'd been their twice before. But in every other AMP I've ever gone to, the washroom waste basket is kept pretty empty. I think you can understand why. Evidence of our happiness has to be gotten rid of. But something told me, the girls who work at this place aren't following common sense, standard operating procedures. So I lifted it up a little closer and the smell hit me. Yeah, that smell. The smell of your adolescent discovery years. Down it went, and I washed my hands twice with plenty of soap and hot water.

Then I went back to the room where the AMP gave me a nice massage and standard happiness. Finished cleaning me up and she left and headed towards the washroom, which was the right next door. I did not hear the toilet flush.

How can the MTs be so cautious in making sure you are not trouble, and then leave a waist basket full of evidence just standing their in the open? Besides uncle LEO, what about the customers? Hell, what about the girls? I can't believe they are so desperate to save water that they would just leave it out like that. Are they stupid, confident, or just sure that no the would bring in a basket full of shots on goal, wrapped in tissue paper into a courtroom?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SamSpade;3266749]Today I stopped by an AMP up in the far northern burbs. Never mind which one, it doesn't matter. The MT led me to the room, and I asked to use the washroom to pee and freshen up. So I'm aiming carefully and see the waste basket next to the toilet, and it is almost full with rolled up wads of tissues. Now understand, I didn't Need To Know, that happiness was available at this particular AMP. I'd been their twice before. But in every other AMP I've ever gone to, the washroom waste basket is kept pretty empty. I think you can understand why. Evidence of our happiness has to be gotten rid of. But something told me, the girls who work at this place aren't following common sense, standard operating procedures. So I lifted it up a little closer and the smell hit me. Yeah, that smell. The smell of your adolescent discovery years. Down it went, and I washed my hands twice with plenty of soap and hot water.

Then I went back to the room where the AMP gave me a nice massage and standard happiness. Finished cleaning me up and she left and headed towards the washroom, which was the right next door. I did not hear the toilet flush.

How can the MTs be so cautious in making sure you are not trouble, and then leave a waist basket full of evidence just standing their in the open? Besides uncle LEO, what about the customers? Hell, what about the girls? I can't believe they are so desperate to save water that they would just leave it out like that. Are they stupid, confident, or just sure that no the would bring in a basket full of shots on goal, wrapped in tissue paper into a courtroom?[/QUOTE]Possibly, but it could be evidence of self-service only being available. Now, if there were wadded-up C-notes with signed pictures of the donors, that would be a whole different issue.

[QUOTE=SamSpade;3266749]Today I stopped by an AMP up in the far northern burbs. Never mind which one, it doesn't matter. The MT led me to the room, and I asked to use the washroom to pee and freshen up. So I'm aiming carefully and see the waste basket next to the toilet, and it is almost full with rolled up wads of tissues. Now understand, I didn't Need To Know, that happiness was available at this particular AMP. I'd been their twice before. But in every other AMP I've ever gone to, the washroom waste basket is kept pretty empty. I think you can understand why. Evidence of our happiness has to be gotten rid of. But something told me, the girls who work at this place aren't following common sense, standard operating procedures. So I lifted it up a little closer and the smell hit me. Yeah, that smell. The smell of your adolescent discovery years. Down it went, and I washed my hands twice with plenty of soap and hot water.

Then I went back to the room where the AMP gave me a nice massage and standard happiness. Finished cleaning me up and she left and headed towards the washroom, which was the right next door. I did not hear the toilet flush.

How can the MTs be so cautious in making sure you are not trouble, and then leave a waist basket full of evidence just standing their in the open? Besides uncle LEO, what about the customers? Hell, what about the girls? I can't believe they are so desperate to save water that they would just leave it out like that. Are they stupid, confident, or just sure that no the would bring in a basket full of shots on goal, wrapped in tissue paper into a courtroom?[/QUOTE]You never lived with a bunch of women have you? I have 5 sisters. I doubt that was the evidence of happiness. Probably more of the reminisce of Aunt Flow.

I've had a variety of experiences over the years, first living in MN and now IL. I've had SW, MT, higher end call girls and even swung with my first wife. But, at 55, I need a long warm up time to get anywhere. For me, ERS and CLV were perfect especially the former because they took their time. That's just how it is. I've tried a FS since ERS closed, but it did me no good. From the sounds of it, we will never see the golden age of Belvidiere again which is beyond sad for us older guys in the hobby. Would anyone be able to give some hints as to where a similar experience could be found. Your typical AMP isn't doing it for me. I understand, I'm not a senior yet. But I'm working towards that. Things look tough off there now and we all need to be more careful, so perhaps we won't see options like ERS and CLV again. If anyone wants to pm me, that's great. If not, I understand and will pay my dues.

[QUOTE=Dunkel;3273375]I've had a variety of experiences over the years, first living in MN and now IL. I've had SW, MT, higher end call girls and even swung with my first wife. But, at 55, I need a long warm up time to get anywhere. For me, ERS and CLV were perfect especially the former because they took their time. That's just how it is. I've tried a FS since ERS closed, but it did me no good. From the sounds of it, we will never see the golden age of Belvidiere again which is beyond sad for us older guys in the hobby. Would anyone be able to give some hints as to where a similar experience could be found. Your typical AMP isn't doing it for me. I understand, I'm not a senior yet. But I'm working towards that. Things look tough off there now and we all need to be more careful, so perhaps we won't see options like ERS and CLV again. If anyone wants to pm me, that's great. If not, I understand and will pay my dues.[/QUOTE]Yep, something that the younger guys don't understand. Once 50 hits, more time necessary to get the the goal line but too soon for the little blue pill. I started going to Belvidere about 25 years ago. Hadn't been there in a few years when they were shut down but it was perfect, especially if you found someone you clicked with. I'm terrified to try anything on back page. Not my thing.

Have you ever tried the lingerie shops downtown Rockford? There are several levels of service. The most basic option might close to what you are use to. Depending where you are, the lingerie shows in the near west Chicago suburbs have some possibilities.

[QUOTE=MayorQuimby;3274105]Yep, something that the younger guys don't understand. Once 50 hits, more time necessary to get the the goal line but too soon for the little blue pill. I started going to Belvidere about 25 years ago. Hadn't been there in a few years when they were shut down but it was perfect, especially if you found someone you clicked with. I'm terrified to try anything on back page. Not my thing.

Have you ever tried the lingerie shops downtown Rockford? There are several levels of service. The most basic option might close to what you are use to. Depending where you are, the lingerie shows in the near west Chicago suburbs have some possibilities.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply! I did try CL, just picked the wrong option for me. Thinking of heading back there. If so, I'll file a report for the guys who preferred the ERS level of service.

[QUOTE=Dunkel;3274861]Thanks for the reply! I did try CL, just picked the wrong option for me. Thinking of heading back there. If so, I'll file a report for the guys who preferred the ERS level of service.[/QUOTE]I've recently read that a few of the ladies from ERS are now actually over at CL. Liz & Jade. The name Teri is on the schedule page from the site. Not sure if its the same Teri from CLV or not. If it is I'd probably make the road trip for a visit.

Hope it goes well & look forward to hearing about it. If you see a Teri in the line up, let me know a brief description. The one from CLV is tall, very slim with a great butt & probably mid 30's. Have fun!

[QUOTE=MayorQuimby;3275432]I've recently read that a few of the ladies from ERS are now actually over at CL. Liz & Jade. The name Teri is on the schedule page from the site. Not sure if its the same Teri from CLV or not. If it is I'd probably make the road trip for a visit.

Hope it goes well & look forward to hearing about it. If you see a Teri in the line up, let me know a brief description. The one from CLV is tall, very slim with a great butt & probably mid 30's. Have fun![/QUOTE]Hoping to get out there this week; will let you know! I love that the company I worked for has a Rockford office.

[QUOTE=MayorQuimby;3275432]I've recently read that a few of the ladies from ERS are now actually over at CL. Liz & Jade. The name Teri is on the schedule page from the site. Not sure if its the same Teri from CLV or not. If it is I'd probably make the road trip for a visit.

Hope it goes well & look forward to hearing about it. If you see a Teri in the line up, let me know a brief description. The one from CLV is tall, very slim with a great butt & probably mid 30's. Have fun![/QUOTE]Hi. Could have been the Teri I had a session a CL a few weeks ago. Great body,. Maybe late 30's. PM with any specific questions.

Tech and privacy are a hobby of mine. Sudo is a free app that allows up to nine names, email addresses and phone numbers and is suppose to be private. It can be locked down by finger print on iPhone bThere are several mentions of it and a more extreme version talkatone. If used with a trustworthy VPN it should be a reasonable alternative to a physical burner phone. Opinions?

Going to be in that area next week for work and wondering if anyone has current info available? Not really trusting what I see on RM with the same website / address being listed for Secret Fantasies and The Spa. Plus the LaSalle board is dead with no posts. Safe to assume Morris or Minooka would be a better stop?

-w.

[QUOTE=Wenger;3306929]Going to be in that area next week for work and wondering if anyone has current info available? Not really trusting what I see on RM with the same website / address being listed for Secret Fantasies and The Spa. Plus the LaSalle board is dead with no posts. Safe to assume Morris or Minooka would be a better stop?

-w.[/QUOTE]You might want to try the Spa in Spring Valley. Closer than Morris or Minooka and will get the job done for you.

Stinky Out.

[QUOTE=MrStinky;3307065]You might want to try the Spa in Spring Valley. Closer than Morris or Minooka and will get the job done for you.

Stinky Out.[/QUOTE]Would that be the one at the corner of St. Paul and Spalding? And thanks,

-w.

[QUOTE=Wenger;3308368]Would that be the one at the corner of St. Paul and Spalding? And thanks,

-w.[/QUOTE]Not sure of the streets, but it's in downtown Spring Valley. The massages are really good. And you'll be happy.

Mei worked there a year ago (gave no HE) but the most noteworthy thing to us was they would not permit the heat to be turned on. Mei caught pneumonia. I drove out and brought her home to her "hostel" and then we spend two weeks in bed together. We really bonded as two human beings. Sort of alone together on an island. I also caught pneumonia. But it was worth it. Bob.

[QUOTE=MrStinky;3308599]Not sure of the streets, but it's in downtown Spring Valley. The massages are really good. And you'll be happy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;3308801]Mei worked there a year ago (gave no HE) but the most noteworthy thing to us was they would not permit the heat to be turned on. Mei caught pneumonia. I drove out and brought her home to her "hostel" and then we spend two weeks in bed together. We really bonded as two human beings. Sort of alone together on an island. I also caught pneumonia. But it was worth it. Bob.[/QUOTE]I remember seeing the post about the heat and pneumonia. Nothing worse than a cold spa in my opinion.

-w.

I'm posting this here too since the LaSalle thread seems to be pretty much dead. So I was in Peru for work and stopped by Spring Valley as suggested. Thank you Stinky!! Had a great session with Amy, a mid-late 30's MILF with almost no english. She gave a great massage that alternated between strong and teasing regularly. There was some unexpected teasing involved that was greatly appreciated by me. No issues on the flip, no concerns about the tip and most importantly for me didn't short on time. There's a small stand up shower in the back by the washing machines if needed. Weather was warm so don't know about the heat, no problems in my room. If you're in the area I would definitely recommend it especially if you're looking for the massage too. $65 for the hour plus a little over standard tip.

-w.

Not sure if this is appropriate, but I got a kick out of it and had to share.

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This is so good it's worth reposting in Illinois. Originally posted by Senior member JoesGarage.

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How much should you tip for 4 hands massage? Let's say 45 min.

[QUOTE=JacknCoke;3409056]How much should you tip for 4 hands massage? Let's say 45 min.[/QUOTE]What areas do the hands manipulate, and how many of them are joining in on the effort? What are your 2 hands doing while all this is going on? What is the base service price? What can you afford?

[QUOTE=ReadyForRub;3409412]What areas do the hands manipulate, and how many of them are joining in on the effort? What are your 2 hands doing while all this is going on? What is the base service price? What can you afford?[/QUOTE]Full body massage. Generally 30-40 tip. X2 that could be a bit much.

3 weeks ago I was at the batting cages and did something to my back. It's been the worst pain I've ever been in. For the first week I literally couldn't even get out of bed. I belonged in the hospital but being stubborn as I am (I didn't want to pay $500 (deductible) for an ambulance to come pick me up nor $600 (deductible) to the emergency room, I toughed it out. Finally this week I'm getting back to normal. Which brings my (kinda weird) question and you being in the biz I figured you may know the answer.

During that time my toe nails grew too long. I didn't want to ask my son to clip them so finally this morning I did it myself. But I'm wondering if asking a MT to do that would be out of the question. I've asked them to do some pretty weird shit but never that. In all the years I've been going to MP's, I can never remember being offered that service.

That's a service I would gladly tip for if I thought it was on the menu, legit spa or not.

Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=HeadFirst;3417011]3 weeks ago I was at the batting cages and did something to my back. It's been the worst pain I've ever been in. For the first week I literally couldn't even get out of bed. I belonged in the hospital but being stubborn as I am (I didn't want to pay $500 (deductible) for an ambulance to come pick me up nor $600 (deductible) to the emergency room, I toughed it out. Finally this week I'm getting back to normal. Which brings my (kinda weird) question and you being in the biz I figured you may know the answer.

During that time my toe nails grew too long. I didn't want to ask my son to clip them so finally this morning I did it myself. But I'm wondering if asking a MT to do that would be out of the question. I've asked them to do some pretty weird shit but never that. In all the years I've been going to MP's, I can never remember being offered that service.

That's a service I would gladly tip for if I thought it was on the menu, legit spa or not.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]A couple of things. First, if you happen to be diabetic, never cut your own toe nails. You run the risk of cutting your toes and that ain't good. A lot of podiatrists have 'nail techs' that will take care of trimming and buffing your toe nails. Usually runs about 40 bucks. Don't go to the nail places in the mall or stand alone stores. They don't always give you fresh foot bath water. A legit MT MAY do it, if she's licensed. In Illinois, you have to be licensed to cut ANYTHING. Check around, I'm sure you will find someone.

Stinky Being Helpful.

[QUOTE=HeadFirst;3417011]3 weeks ago I was at the batting cages and did something to my back. It's been the worst pain I've ever been in. For the first week I literally couldn't even get out of bed. I belonged in the hospital but being stubborn as I am (I didn't want to pay $500 (deductible) for an ambulance to come pick me up nor $600 (deductible) to the emergency room, I toughed it out. Finally this week I'm getting back to normal. Which brings my (kinda weird) question and you being in the biz I figured you may know the answer.

During that time my toe nails grew too long. I didn't want to ask my son to clip them so finally this morning I did it myself. But I'm wondering if asking a MT to do that would be out of the question. I've asked them to do some pretty weird shit but never that. In all the years I've been going to MP's, I can never remember being offered that service.

That's a service I would gladly tip for if I thought it was on the menu, legit spa or not.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]In the past I've had MTs pop my back pimples and blackheads, crack my neck, trim my fingers and toenails, and take a rough stone to the clauses on my feet. All without asking. But I think you have to pick the right one. For instance, the younger and hotter ones know they don't need to even give a good massage to get the money out of you. The older ones, I'm betting you'd have better luck with. Just be nice about it. I've recently had a pinched nerve that really aches my neck and shoulders. Pointed that out to the MT at the spa in Geneva, and she not only worked that area carefully and professionally, she let me feel her up while she was doing it. And she wasn't bad looking either.

[QUOTE=SamSpade;3417561]In the past I've had MTs pop my back pimples and blackheads, crack my neck, trim my fingers and toenails, and take a rough stone to the clauses on my feet. All without asking. But I think you have to pick the right one. For instance, the younger and hotter ones know they don't need to even give a good massage to get the money out of you. The older ones, I'm betting you'd have better luck with. Just be nice about it. I've recently had a pinched nerve that really aches my neck and shoulders. Pointed that out to the MT at the spa in Geneva, and she not only worked that area carefully and professionally, she let me feel her up while she was doing it. And she wasn't bad looking either.[/QUOTE]Cindy at Kings in OP will do so. She trimmed my toe nails the other day.

[QUOTE=MrStinky;3417199]A couple of things. First, if you happen to be diabetic, never cut your own toe nails. You run the risk of cutting your toes and that ain't good. A lot of podiatrists have 'nail techs' that will take care of trimming and buffing your toe nails. Usually runs about 40 bucks. Don't go to the nail places in the mall or stand alone stores. They don't always give you fresh foot bath water. A legit MT MAY do it, if she's licensed. In Illinois, you have to be licensed to cut ANYTHING. Check around, I'm sure you will find someone.

Stinky Being Helpful.[/QUOTE]Actually, I am diabetic (type 2). And. I Did cut one of my toes while doing it myself. Damn thing has been hurting ever since.

But I was thinking there may be better ways to use your psychic abilities.

First we could meet up at the racetrack. If all goes well there then we could find a stock market broker. Finally, finish the day with a trip to a lottery terminal and plug in some #'s. Haha.

I'm sorry I've been out of touch. I just got back from China. Three week trip. I wanted to see what it was like. Someday I might move there with Mei. Another post on China another time. Suffice it to say it is a pretty amazing place. They are very nice to Americans. Some incredibly beautiful women there. I was with American wife, and I stayed out of trouble.

So, on the nail front, I could certainly ask Mei, but I know she would decline. Over the years I have known MTs who also had training in nails. There's a nail spa three doors down from me. (SW corner of Weiland and Deerfield in Buff Grove). I'm sure they could do something for you, plus they are trained. There's another store across the street, a few doors down from the defunct Yedam. I'm also Diabetic but so far I've managed to avoid severely high A1 C results. So far none of the bad shit has happened to me.

[QUOTE=HeadFirst;3417011]3 weeks ago I was at the batting cages and did something to my back. It's been the worst pain I've ever been in. For the first week I literally couldn't even get out of bed. I belonged in the hospital but being stubborn as I am (I didn't want to pay $500 (deductible) for an ambulance to come pick me up nor $600 (deductible) to the emergency room, I toughed it out. Finally this week I'm getting back to normal. Which brings my (kinda weird) question and you being in the biz I figured you may know the answer.

During that time my toe nails grew too long. I didn't want to ask my son to clip them so finally this morning I did it myself. But I'm wondering if asking a MT to do that would be out of the question. I've asked them to do some pretty weird shit but never that. In all the years I've been going to MP's, I can never remember being offered that service.

That's a service I would gladly tip for if I thought it was on the menu, legit spa or not.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;3426389]I'm sorry I've been out of touch. I just got back from China. Three week trip. I wanted to see what it was like. Someday I might move there with Mei. Another post on China another time. Suffice it to say it is a pretty amazing place. They are very nice to Americans. Some incredibly beautiful women there. I was with American wife, and I stayed out of trouble.
[/QUOTE]Something I've thought about too. In fact last Summer me and my son were actually buckled up on a flight to Bejing but had to deboard due to some technical issues with our Chinese traveling companions. Long story.

Never been there so it's still on our radar. Since this is the general section, maybe you could brief us on how friendly they actually are to Americans once over there. My biggest fear was being in a foreign country and not knowing 1 word of the language. I've been told that the country is very tourist friendly and also that most written signs are in both Chinese and English. That would be helpful.

The Great Wall and other spots of interest were all on our list of things to do but I must admit the women of China are also a strong draw. For many years I've been trying to kick this fetish I have of Asian women but so far with no luck. I may eventually just throw in the towel and move there too. I know a guy that's done that already and he's living happily ever after. Hmmm.

[QUOTE=SamSpade;3417561]Pointed that out to the MT at the spa in Geneva, and she not only worked that area carefully and professionally, she let me feel her up while she was doing it. And she wasn't bad looking either.[/QUOTE]In a strange but subtle way, that's a pretty hot scenario. High 5.

[QUOTE=HeadFirst;3435669]Something I've thought about too. In fact last Summer me and my son were actually buckled up on a flight to Bejing but had to deboard due to some technical issues with our Chinese traveling companions. Long story.

Never been there so it's still on our radar. Since this is the general section, maybe you could brief us on how friendly they actually are to Americans once over there. My biggest fear was being in a foreign country and not knowing 1 word of the language. I've been told that the country is very tourist friendly and also that most written signs are in both Chinese and English. That would be helpful.

The Great Wall and other spots of interest were all on our list of things to do but I must admit the women of China are also a strong draw. For many years I've been trying to kick this fetish I have of Asian women but so far with no luck. I may eventually just throw in the towel and move there too. I know a guy that's done that already and he's living happily ever after. Hmmm.[/QUOTE]From Beijing to Shanghai to Hong Kong the Chinese people were very friendly, and went out of their way to help us get around. You'd be amazed at the amount of English spoken. It is the primary foreign language studied, and people love to practice their skills.

I had a great time in China. It was a 19 day trip. Small group, great guide. His name was "Kevin" and the tour company was China Spree.

Saw Beijing, Xian, Gulin, Chengde, Changsha, Yiyang, a 3 day cruise on the Yangtze River, Suszho, and Shanghai. I'm leaving stuff out but it was very good.

The Chinese people were great. The government goes a long way to make sure tourists are well treated. In planes, etc, the announcements were in Chinese and English. The Chinese version seemed like a 5 minute speech (I recognized a few words, like Meguiren / American) But the English announcements were like 15 seconds. So my guess is they were telling the Chinese people something they were not telling us. LOL. Our guide told us there's a selective enforcement of crime. If a Chinese person robs another Chinese person. Maybe a couple months in jail. But if he robs an America, it's like ten years in jail. So guess what? The Criminals don't go after Americans. I'm sure that's not exactly true. But I understand the concept. Food was incredible. People were extremely friendly. In many places people would ask to take their picture with you. They wanted pictures of Americans. (Like were a rarity.) Tourism is a massive huge industry there. Both foreigners and Chinese. Bring bottled water. The tap water is not quite safe. And the public toilets are. Well - 80% of them are called squatty potties. No seat. Just a hole. Also toilet paper was rarely in the public toilets. Major malls, Hotels, high class restaurants were fine. Beautiful women everywhere. Changde was especially notable for beautiful women everywhere. To answer the obvious question, no I did not go looking for "trouble" so I can't offer any feedback on that aspect of China. But don't be afraid to visit. Its an amazing country. Really glad I went. Bob.

[QUOTE=HeadFirst;3435669]Something I've thought about too. In fact last Summer me and my son were actually buckled up on a flight to Bejing but had to deboard due to some technical issues with our Chinese traveling companions. Long story.

Never been there so it's still on our radar. Since this is the general section, maybe you could brief us on how friendly they actually are to Americans once over there. My biggest fear was being in a foreign country and not knowing 1 word of the language. I've been told that the country is very tourist friendly and also that most written signs are in both Chinese and English. That would be helpful.

The Great Wall and other spots of interest were all on our list of things to do but I must admit the women of China are also a strong draw. For many years I've been trying to kick this fetish I have of Asian women but so far with no luck. I may eventually just throw in the towel and move there too. I know a guy that's done that already and he's living happily ever after. Hmmm.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;3442715]I had a great time in China. It was a 19 day trip. Small group, great guide. His name was "Kevin" and the tour company was China Spree.

Saw Beijing, Xian, Gulin, Chengde, Changsha, Yiyang, a 3 day cruise on the Yangtze River, Suszho, and Shanghai. I'm leaving stuff out but it was very good.

The Chinese people were great. The government goes a long way to make sure tourists are well treated. In planes, etc, the announcements were in Chinese and English. The Chinese version seemed like a 5 minute speech (I recognized a few words, like Meguiren / American) But the English announcements were like 15 seconds. So my guess is they were telling the Chinese people something they were not telling us. LOL. Our guide told us there's a selective enforcement of crime. If a Chinese person robs another Chinese person. Maybe a couple months in jail. But if he robs an America, it's like ten years in jail. So guess what? The Criminals don't go after Americans. I'm sure that's not exactly true. But I understand the concept. Food was incredible. People were extremely friendly. Bob.[/QUOTE]I also got back from 19 days in China 2 weeks ago. The bath houses are a must to experience and crossing the roads are dangerous because the roads belong to the drivers. I agree with Bob521 about the food and all.

It was my third trip there to visit a friend I met through the hobby. We are good friends and I stay at her house. China is very friendly toward Americans.

[QUOTE=Bob521;3442715]I had a great time in China. It was a 19 day trip. Small group, great guide. His name was "Kevin" and the tour company was China Spree.

Saw Beijing, Xian, Gulin, Chengde, Changsha, Yiyang, a 3 day cruise on the Yangtze River, Suszho, and Shanghai. I'm leaving stuff out but it was very good.

The Chinese people were great. The government goes a long way to make sure tourists are well treated. In planes, etc, the announcements were in Chinese and English. The Chinese version seemed like a 5 minute speech (I recognized a few words, like Meguiren / American) But the English announcements were like 15 seconds. So my guess is they were telling the Chinese people something they were not telling us. LOL. Our guide told us there's a selective enforcement of crime. If a Chinese person robs another Chinese person. Maybe a couple months in jail. But if he robs an America, it's like ten years in jail. So guess what? The Criminals don't go after Americans. I'm sure that's not exactly true. But I understand the concept. Food was incredible. People were extremely friendly. In many places people would ask to take their picture with you. They wanted pictures of Americans. (Like were a rarity.) Tourism is a massive huge industry there. Both foreigners and Chinese. Bring bottled water. The tap water is not quite safe. And the public toilets are. Well - 80% of them are called squatty potties. No seat. Just a hole. Also toilet paper was rarely in the public toilets. Major malls, Hotels, high class restaurants were fine. Beautiful women everywhere. Changde was especially notable for beautiful women everywhere. To answer the obvious question, no I did not go looking for "trouble" so I can't offer any feedback on that aspect of China. But don't be afraid to visit. Its an amazing country. Really glad I went. Bob.[/QUOTE]I was there for 2 weeks. Fantastic place, fantastic people, very inexpensive, hotels were Marriot, Sheraton. 15 days was 1700 dollars. I saw a trip from Chicago, 8 days for 499! The ad said it was not a misprint. Also saw 10 day trip for $645 from Chicago. I understand the Chinese government is subsidizing the trips. I printed a copy of the 499 trip so people would believe and I didn't make it up. LOL Rocket Dork.

[QUOTE=RocketDork;3442745]I was there for 2 weeks. Fantastic place, fantastic people, very inexpensive, hotels were Marriot, Sheraton. 15 days was 1700 dollars. I saw a trip from Chicago, 8 days for 499! The ad said it was not a misprint. Also saw 10 day trip for $645 from Chicago. I understand the Chinese government is subsidizing the trips. I printed a copy of the 499 trip so people would believe and I didn't make it up. LOL Rocket Dork.[/QUOTE]Those are really cheap prices! How is the "hobbying" there? Would love to go and get laid EVERY day! How dangerous is hobbying? I know the govt. Is very strict. Hate to be that guy on the news for 14 months.

[QUOTE=MwmChicago;3443738]Those are really cheap prices! How is the "hobbying" there? Would love to go and get laid EVERY day! How dangerous is hobbying? I know the govt. Is very strict. Hate to be that guy on the news for 14 months.[/QUOTE]Funny store I read in english paper over in China. Scalpers were arrested by Disneyland in China. Article stated the scalpers were given a 8 hour lecture by the police and the scalpers had to write an apology letter and promised never to do it again. LOL!

[QUOTE=RocketDork;3443868]Funny store I read in english paper over in China. Scalpers were arrested by Disneyland in China. Article stated the scalpers were given a 8 hour lecture by the police and the scalpers had to write an apology letter and promised never to do it again. LOL![/QUOTE]I'm sorry Mister Officer. I didn't mean to stick my dick in that girls mouth and then give her $25. I just slipped and fell and she was there with her mouth open. I'll never do it again. Maybe. Well, I'll try.

Stinky Apologetic. Again.

[QUOTE=HeadFirst;3435669]The Great Wall and other spots of interest were all on our list of things to do but I must admit the women of China are also a strong draw. For many years I've been trying to kick this fetish I have of Asian women but so far with no luck. I may eventually just throw in the towel and move there too. I know a guy that's done that already and he's living happily ever after. Hmmm.[/QUOTE]If you are trying to kick the "Asian" fetish you better stay away because it will only get worse if you go. There are so many incredibly stunning women there you will be amazed and they are everywhere you go. You can't get away from them and the best thing is they are friendly, not this GPS they have here.

Ever see a natural blond Chinese girl with blue eyes? Or a natural Chinese redhead with bright green eyes where the carpet matches the drapes? Or just that tall thin stunning girl with long black hair and a short black skirt smiling at you as you just walk down a sidewalk? They are all there just waiting for you. Beautiful girls, 10 plus on the scale, waiting in every part of the country, just for you. Haha.

The most beautiful AMP girl I have ever seen in this country pales in comparison to what you see just walking down the street in any city of China on any given day. I have been there over 30 times for both business and personal reasons and I never cease to be amazed at the combination of friendliness and beauty.

I highly recommend and I will repeat. Your mileage will NOT vary!

AJ.

[QUOTE=AvgJoe;3444832]If you are trying to kick the "Asian" fetish you better stay away because it will only get worse if you go. There are so many incredibly stunning women there you will be amazed and they are everywhere you go. You can't get away from them and the best thing is they are friendly, not this GPS they have here.

Ever see a natural blond Chinese girl with blue eyes? Or a natural Chinese redhead with bright green eyes where the carpet matches the drapes? Or just that tall thin stunning girl with long black hair and a short black skirt smiling at you as you just walk down a sidewalk? They are all there just waiting for you. Beautiful girls, 10 plus on the scale, waiting in every part of the country, just for you. Haha.

The most beautiful AMP girl I have ever seen in this country pales in comparison to what you see just walking down the street in any city of China on any given day. I have been there over 30 times for both business and personal reasons and I never cease to be amazed at the combination of friendliness and beauty.

I highly recommend and I will repeat. Your mileage will NOT vary!

AJ.[/QUOTE]Everyone is extremely nice and polite. Anyone would try to help you if you had any questions. Women did look hot! Rocket Dork.

[QUOTE=Bob521;3442715]I had a great time in China. It was a 19 day trip. Small group, great guide. His name was "Kevin" and the tour company was China Spree.

Saw Beijing, Xian, Gulin, Chengde, Changsha, Yiyang, a 3 day cruise on the Yangtze River, Suszho, and Shanghai. I'm leaving stuff out but it was very good.

The Chinese people were great. The government goes a long way to make sure tourists are well treated. In planes, etc, the announcements were in Chinese and English. The Chinese version seemed like a 5 minute speech (I recognized a few words, like Meguiren / American) But the English announcements were like 15 seconds. So my guess is they were telling the Chinese people something they were not telling us. LOL. Our guide told us there's a selective enforcement of crime. If a Chinese person robs another Chinese person. Maybe a couple months in jail. But if he robs an America, it's like ten years in jail. So guess what? The Criminals don't go after Americans. I'm sure that's not exactly true. But I understand the concept. Food was incredible. People were extremely friendly. In many places people would ask to take their picture with you. They wanted pictures of Americans. (Like were a rarity.) Tourism is a massive huge industry there. Both foreigners and Chinese. Bring bottled water. The tap water is not quite safe. And the public toilets are. Well - 80% of them are called squatty potties. No seat. Just a hole. Also toilet paper was rarely in the public toilets. Major malls, Hotels, high class restaurants were fine. Beautiful women everywhere. Changde was especially notable for beautiful women everywhere. To answer the obvious question, no I did not go looking for "trouble" so I can't offer any feedback on that aspect of China. But don't be afraid to visit. Its an amazing country. Really glad I went. Bob.[/QUOTE]Bob, when did you go on your trip? I was just there for 15 days. Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen and Hong Kong. Would have been nice to have met up with you over there. Curious, which wife did you take with you.