Stupid shit in St Louis

[QUOTE=Illinois;2943363]Don't know where to put this, so I guess I'll go with here. Put my feelers out to a few girls yesterday to try and schedule some late night fun. Most fell through. But one did not and I have seen her once before. Had spidey senses going off for two reasons. The first is because there were good amounts of time between our texts. I don't know why but it gave me a weird vibe. The second is because I told her I wanted a half hour. She said cool and asked how much I have. I said we would talk about it. She refused to give me her room number until I said how much I had. I turned around and went home. I'm guessing I did the right thing. I can see how guys can get themselves into trouble. It was extremely hard for me to give up and go home empty handed (no pun intended.).[/QUOTE]What was her name?

[QUOTE=CardMan1014;2945685]What was her name?[/QUOTE]Megan is her name.

[QUOTE=HappyGoLucky87;2949871]Jenna, located in Illinois anyone tried yet?[/QUOTE]Where did you find her.

I was recently traveleling and looking through USAG for the city I was in. Came across this week no and wanted to share. This dude is pretty awesoneawesome. [URL]https://youtu.be/gwYBshAScmE[/URL].

P.S. This is for A2. Can I please be lifted off my moderation? It's been almost a year. Thank you!

[blue]Depends, have you learned to play well with others, specifically guys you think are assholes?

In other words have you figured out the "Ignore Function?"

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[QUOTE=QueNine;2955569]I was recently traveleling and looking through USAG for the city I was in. Came across this week no and wanted to share. This dude is pretty awesoneawesome. [URL]https://youtu.be/gwYBshAScmE[/URL].

P.S. This is for A2. Can I please be lifted off my moderation? It's been almost a year. Thank you!

[blue]Depends, have you learned to play well with others, specifically guys you think are assholes?

In other words have you figured out the "Ignore Function?"

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Thank You. Been times that would have saved me a ton of $$.

[QUOTE=QueNine;2955569]I was recently traveleling and looking through USAG for the city I was in. Came across this week no and wanted to share. This dude is pretty awesoneawesome. [URL]https://youtu.be/gwYBshAScmE[/URL].

P.S. This is for A2. Can I please be lifted off my moderation? It's been almost a year. Thank you!

[blue]Depends, have you learned to play well with others, specifically guys you think are assholes?

In other words have you figured out the "Ignore Function?"

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]I haven't said a word to him or about him in a year.

[blue]Send me a PM

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Seriously? You post exactly the same thing disguised as a question and think this won't happen?

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Just wondering how many feel ads like this could be a set up? 420 F / Greek / New In Town - 3 Red Flags for me -.

New in Town ((Petite & Beautiful!!)) - Upscale Companion. INCALLS & OUTCALLS - 24.

[QUOTE=EddieBoy1;2963047]Just wondering how many feel ads like this could be a set up? 420 F / Greek / New In Town - 3 Red Flags for me -.

New in Town ((Petite & Beautiful!!)) - Upscale Companion. INCALLS & OUTCALLS - 24.[/QUOTE]Red flags for me too brother! I have seen other ads supposedly from party (p4 p) girls asking for you out of the blue to email them a a picture of your "party supplies", clear face pic, your address, your phone number, and some specify which municipality you should live in too because you must host. To some anonymous TOTAL stranger, over the internet. You might as well email them a close up pic of the word "stupid" that has to be glowing in neon orange and flashing across your forehead. LOL.

Some like naturally aspirated, but I'd rather be blown. TD

Just making everyone aware. Is st louis getting hot right now?

[URL]http://fox2now.com/2016/06/22/snapping-a-picture-of-your-hotel-room-could-help-stop-human-trafficking/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Turbodood;2963274]Red flags for me too brother! I have seen other ads supposedly from party (p4 p) girls asking for you out of the blue to email them a a picture of your "party supplies", clear face pic, your address, your phone number, and some specify which municipality you should live in too because you must host. To some anonymous TOTAL stranger, over the internet. You might as well email them a close up pic of the word "stupid" that has to be glowing in neon orange and flashing across your forehead. LOL.

Some like naturally aspirated, but I'd rather be blown. TD[/QUOTE]Be careful gentlemen. Not trying to discourage you, but sh at t is getting crazy. As another monger put it, it's an election year.

[QUOTE=Illinois;2965757]Just making everyone aware. Is st louis getting hot right now?

[URL]http://fox2now.com/2016/06/22/snapping-a-picture-of-your-hotel-room-could-help-stop-human-trafficking/[/URL][/QUOTE]Most of the working girls seem to be on to that hotel room background App and are careful to shoot a pic on a white wall or some other generic scene that can't be identified. At least they should be now. The do-gooder mommies just can't stand the fact that these women are getting a lot more sex than they are.

[QUOTE=Illinois;2965757]Just making everyone aware. Is st louis getting hot right now?

[URL]http://fox2now.com/2016/06/22/snapping-a-picture-of-your-hotel-room-could-help-stop-human-trafficking/[/URL][/QUOTE]That would make my day. Wondering if there are any Stratford Inn Pics on that app? Or Jasmine Huda Pic Playing Sand Volley Ball. Halter Top. Those hot Volley ball shorts that leave nothing to the imagination. Big Ratings for Fox2.

Here is a cool little documentary about a black strip club in atlanta. This place is like the pink slip on steroids! Blunts, bottles, and fat ass. I love this type of atmosphere, which is why I like going to the slip. It's not for everyone, but I sure love it. But, I also love hip hop music. So, check out this documentary, it's pretty entertaining.

[URL]https://youtu.be/-RfRclWgIOg[/URL]

[QUOTE=EddieBoy1;2966506]That would make my day. Wondering if there are any Stratford Inn Pics on that app? Or Jasmine Huda Pic Playing Sand Volley Ball. Halter Top. Those hot Volley ball shorts that leave nothing to the imagination. Big Ratings for Fox2.[/QUOTE]Ahh yes, Jasmine Huda!! Speaking of, it would be really nice to get an Indian provider come through this town. As far as this app is concerned, I'm not worried about this targeting regular escorting--I think they are legitimately focused on stopping trafficking and underage girls, which I think is great. And you should be very leery of any girl who does not appear to be mid-20's or so. I was corresponding with a "21 year old" girl over email, which led me to her Facebook page showing she was only 17--no way am I getting mixed up in that.

What used to be a fantastic resource for checking photos posted on BP and CL has turned into nothing but garbage. In the past you could search a photo and find out the source and any place it was used on the web, including every ad it was ever used in on BP or anywhere else. Now a search just turns up results like "girl" or "underwear" or some spam site. I guess the do-gooders got to them after they realized how great it was for finding real WGs. Another reason to hate Google.

This is the first ad I have seen like this. I thought there would be more out there. If this gal is real I wouldn't mind looking at some other guys wanker in order to dip my wick in her! LOL.

[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/3-some-mfm/21474873[/URL]

[QUOTE=BillBradsky;2983675]What used to be a fantastic resource for checking photos posted on BP and CL has turned into nothing but garbage. In the past you could search a photo and find out the source and any place it was used on the web, including every ad it was ever used in on BP or anywhere else. Now a search just turns up results like "girl" or "underwear" or some spam site. I guess the do-gooders got to them after they realized how great it was for finding real WGs. Another reason to hate Google.[/QUOTE]The results are now below the most likely results instead of above. Or, from the Google POV, you need to scroll over the advertising content before you get your results.

Babe Ruth was crazy about prostitutes and loved frequenting brothels. Prostitutes, unlike most women who threw themselves at him, wanted nothing but money and were much less complicated for the star. Often during his career, St. Louis fans would be "touched" by the Babe as he would say he frequented "The House of the Good Shepherd. " Most assumed, given he was Catholic, he was going to church. Little did they know, "The House of the Good Shepherd" was a brothel in St. Louis.

[QUOTE=Wyghost;2993999]Babe Ruth was crazy about prostitutes and loved frequenting brothels. Prostitutes, unlike most women who threw themselves at him, wanted nothing but money and were much less complicated for the star. Often during his career, St. Louis fans would be "touched" by the Babe as he would say he frequented "The House of the Good Shepherd. " Most assumed, given he was Catholic, he was going to church. Little did they know, "The House of the Good Shepherd" was a brothel in St. Louis.[/QUOTE]Cool report, history is fascinating!

[QUOTE=Jeffc574;2991609]The results are now below the most likely results instead of above. Or, from the Google POV, you need to scroll over the advertising content before you get your results.[/QUOTE]Use [URL]www.tineye.com[/URL] Best free web search of all pics, you'll find what you are looking for, no ads.

Yes I have done my part helping newbies, as long long ago in a different century I was a newbie, but come on men, not a single post and wanting me to PM you info about a friend and help you get set up with her will never happen. I even have a working brain for being an old man.

Hope you understand, because I understand. I would like to help more, but would you send money and prepay for a girl you have never read a review about, or never met before, I would hope not.

I would like to help, and do quite often, post reports, ask questions, and give out info, but only to those that also help and post reports.

Looking for a fun time in the Lou this next week.

I am going to Vegas soon, so I spent some time checking out their page. There is an entire section on providers who offer BBFSCIP. So, are these guys / gals plain stupid, or are stds a lot harder to catch than we all think? I just don't understand it. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11166-Bareback-Beauties

[QUOTE=Illinois;2996020]I am going to Vegas soon, so I spent some time checking out their page. There is an entire section on providers who offer BBFSCIP. So, are these guys / gals plain stupid, or are stds a lot harder to catch than we all think? I just don't understand it. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11166-Bareback-Beauties[/QUOTE]Vegas is a gamble, and they believe what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

[QUOTE=Illinois;2996020]I am going to Vegas soon, so I spent some time checking out their page. There is an entire section on providers who offer BBFSCIP. So, are these guys / gals plain stupid, or are stds a lot harder to catch than we all think? I just don't understand it. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11166-Bareback-Beauties[/QUOTE]Was there 4th of July weekend.

Lots of good looking chicks offering any thing you want on menu, all BARE. A few even offering A T M!

Did not partake as had SO (dang). However Bare Back is a big NO NO in my book.

Be safe, think with the BIG head.

JAMESJ.

[QUOTE=Illinois;2996020]I am going to Vegas soon, so I spent some time checking out their page. There is an entire section on providers who offer BBFSCIP. So, are these guys / gals plain stupid, or are stds a lot harder to catch than we all think? I just don't understand it. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11166-Bareback-Beauties[/QUOTE]There are just a lot of crazy fuckers and we have a crap load of them here too. These dudes daily bombard these girls with questions about BBFS. And they try to play mind games on these girls to do it. They feed off their weakness and ignorance like maggots on a pile of diarrhea. Girls have shown me the text messages over the years. It's ridiculous!

[QUOTE=Illinois;2996020]I am going to Vegas soon, so I spent some time checking out their page. There is an entire section on providers who offer BBFSCIP. So, are these guys / gals plain stupid, or are stds a lot harder to catch than we all think? I just don't understand it. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11166-Bareback-Beauties[/QUOTE]There are valid reasons for guys going BB, besides the fact it feels better. One important reason, some guys (like me) find it hard (or impossible) to fire off a load wearing a condom. I am pushing retirement age, and while I don't want to catch an STD, I am not worried about transferring it to a significant other because I don't have one. In the last few years, I have fucked hundreds of girls BB and have not caught anything. I almost never get a BBBJ, because if you read this forum enough, you will find tons of guys who have caught an STD via BBBJ. The reason for this is simple, a typical worker will do like 5 times the number of BJ's vs FS, and a lot of guys / girls do BBBJ's, so it is likely that the typical girl is more likely to give you something via her mouth versus her pussy. I always wash up immediately afterward and piss too, and always use lube as it dilutes the nasties.

I am not being cavalier about this, chances are I will catch something someday. The worst fear is HIV, but if you look at the statistics, there is a 1 in 3,200 chance of a cut guy catching it from an HIV positive girl via normal intercourse.

I am fixed also, so there is no chance of any little Busters running around.

And if you think that the provider you are fucking doesn't go bareback, think again. On my last trip to St Louis, I fucked a half-dozen girls, and every one of them willingly went BB without batting an eye or asking for upcharge. I am finding about a 95% willingness rate with SW's, and about 75% with BP girls.

Just FYI, BB sex is NOT as easy to find in Vegas! My last trip there, most of the SW's wouldn't do BB, and I didn't bother with casino girls as none of them will. So don't think Vegas is some hot bed of BB activity, it is not. St Louis is far easier to find BB action!

[QUOTE=BusterHymen;2996441]There are valid reasons for guys going BB, besides the fact it feels better. One important reason, some guys (like me) find it hard (or impossible) to fire off a load wearing a condom. I am pushing retirement age, and while I don't want to catch an STD, I am not worried about transferring it to a significant other because I don't have one. In the last few years, I have fucked hundreds of girls BB and have not caught anything. I almost never get a BBBJ, because if you read this forum enough, you will find tons of guys who have caught an STD via BBBJ. The reason for this is simple, a typical worker will do like 5 times the number of BJ's vs FS, and a lot of guys / girls do BBBJ's, so it is likely that the typical girl is more likely to give you something via her mouth versus her pussy. I always wash up immediately afterward and piss too, and always use lube as it dilutes the nasties.

I am not being cavalier about this, chances are I will catch something someday. The worst fear is HIV, but if you look at the statistics, there is a 1 in 3,200 chance of a cut guy catching it from an HIV positive girl via normal intercourse.

I am fixed also, so there is no chance of any little Busters running around.

And if you think that the provider you are fucking doesn't go bareback, think again. On my last trip to St Louis, I fucked a half-dozen girls, and every one of them willingly went BB without batting an eye or asking for upcharge. I am finding about a 95% willingness rate with SW's, and about 75% with BP girls.

Just FYI, BB sex is NOT as easy to find in Vegas! My last trip there, most of the SW's wouldn't do BB, and I didn't bother with casino girls as none of them will. So don't think Vegas is some hot bed of BB activity, it is not. St Louis is far easier to find BB action![/QUOTE]This is some scary shit, on many levels. I agree that it is more prevalent now; BP girls, SA and WYP girls, even at the strip club -BBFS offers / attempts without batting an eye. Guess I look clean. I am amazed at how many girls want to bring up std test results as a reason they can go BB. Sure that tells me you weren't hiv positive 3 months ago, but what have you done since? BB is Russian roulette with your dick; eventually there will be one in the chamber. Be safe everybody.

[QUOTE=BusterHymen;2996441]There are valid reasons for guys going BB, besides the fact it feels better. One important reason, some guys (like me) find it hard (or impossible) to fire off a load wearing a condom. I am pushing retirement age, and while I don't want to catch an STD, I am not worried about transferring it to a significant other because I don't have one. In the last few years, I have fucked hundreds of girls BB and have not caught anything. I almost never get a BBBJ, because if you read this forum enough, you will find tons of guys who have caught an STD via BBBJ. The reason for this is simple, a typical worker will do like 5 times the number of BJ's vs FS, and a lot of guys / girls do BBBJ's, so it is likely that the typical girl is more likely to give you something via her mouth versus her pussy. I always wash up immediately afterward and piss too, and always use lube as it dilutes the nasties.

I am not being cavalier about this, chances are I will catch something someday. The worst fear is HIV, but if you look at the statistics, there is a 1 in 3,200 chance of a cut guy catching it from an HIV positive girl via normal intercourse.

I am fixed also, so there is no chance of any little Busters running around.

And if you think that the provider you are fucking doesn't go bareback, think again. On my last trip to St Louis, I fucked a half-dozen girls, and every one of them willingly went BB without batting an eye or asking for upcharge. I am finding about a 95% willingness rate with SW's, and about 75% with BP girls.

Just FYI, BB sex is NOT as easy to find in Vegas! My last trip there, most of the SW's wouldn't do BB, and I didn't bother with casino girls as none of them will. So don't think Vegas is some hot bed of BB activity, it is not. St Louis is far easier to find BB action![/QUOTE]In the hobby, there is never a valid reason for BBFS. Never. The only time it's ok is if the chick is your wife, your girlfriend or you're in an tight arrangement where the only player is you or perhaps some other dude that you personally know. Any time the community is sharing a girl, it's just too dangerous to do BBFS. This is why it's publicly discouraged. This is why a girl known to do that will lose most of her business because the last thing a serious monger wants to do it take herpes, syphilis or hiv back to his S. O and family or spread that crap to other girls in the community.

Streetwalking, in St. Louis, is really as low as a girl can go. They are usually addicted to something like "H" and will do anything a monger wants to get their fix. It's highly discouraged to BBFS on one of those girls. It's just way to risky.

I agree with the % of BP girls willing to BBFS. A matter of fact, I think it's higher and if the one's you've seen have been addicted to "H," some other kind of crap or they're just plain naive, then you're probably looking at about an 85% rate.

Now as far as the numbers you've given about BBFS vs BBBJ, I can't agree with that and the last thing that any one of use want is for every Fucktard on these boards to think that they have a less likelihood of catching something doing BBFS than BBBJ. You can get rid of "Trick" from a BBBJ with meds, but you can't get rid of HIV because you were banging a needling hording "H" addict. And when you get Hiv, there is no amount of washing that you can do to get rid of that. It's game over.

Lastly, I've talked to a number of girls about this SH-I-AT! I hate when guys that love to BBFS talk crap about not wanting to wear a condom because they can't feel anything. That's bull! I'm a dude and that's the biggest bunch of crap I've ever heard in my life. They'll say anything to get in a chick's pants without protection. LOL Sure we all love boning chicks without condoms. Of course, it feels good! The solution is simple. Buy a box of Okamotos (they're so thin, they don't feel like they are on) and keep everybody else safe.

Again, I don't want to discourage members from posting their thoughts. This is a good topic. And if you like to BBFS, it's ok to speak up.

[QUOTE=FloydLeukins;2996731]This is some scary shit, on many levels. I agree that it is more prevalent now; BP girls, SA and WYP girls, even at the strip club -BBFS offers / attempts without batting an eye. Guess I look clean. I am amazed at how many girls want to bring up std test results as a reason they can go BB. Sure that tells me you weren't hiv positive 3 months ago, but what have you done since? BB is Russian roulette with your dick; eventually there will be one in the chamber. Be safe everybody.[/QUOTE]I don't care how hard it is for someone to get their rocks off. HPV, HIV, Herpes is simply not worth your or your family's health.

[QUOTE=AllNewTome;2996920]I don't care how hard it is for someone to get their rocks off. HPV, HIV, Herpes is simply not worth your or your family's health.[/QUOTE]The only difference between herpes and true love, herpes really is forever.

[QUOTE=Recapacitar;2996913]In the hobby, there is never a valid reason for BBFS. Never. The only time it's ok is if the chick is your wife, your girlfriend or you're in an tight arrangement where the only player is you or perhaps some other dude that you personally know. Any time the community is sharing a girl, it's just too dangerous to do BBFS. This is why it's publicly discouraged. This is why a girl known to do that will lose most of her business because the last thing a serious monger wants to do it take herpes, syphilis or hiv back to his S. O and family or spread that crap to other girls in the community.

Streetwalking, in St. Louis, is really as low as a girl can go. They are usually addicted to something like "H" and will do anything a monger wants to get their fix. It's highly discouraged to BBFS on one of those girls. It's just way to risky.

I agree with the % of BP girls willing to BBFS. A matter of fact, I think it's higher and if the one's you've seen have been addicted to "H," some other kind of crap or they're just plain naive, then you're probably looking at about an 85% rate.

Now as far as the numbers you've given about BBFS vs BBBJ, I can't agree with that and the last thing that any one of use want is for every Fucktard on these boards to think that they have a less likelihood of catching something doing BBFS than BBBJ. You can get rid of "Trick" from a BBBJ with meds, but you can't get rid of HIV because you were banging a needling hording "H" addict. And when you get Hiv, there is no amount of washing that you can do to get rid of that. It's game over.

Lastly, I've talked to a number of girls about this SH-I-AT! I hate when guys that love to BBFS talk crap about not wanting to wear a condom because they can't feel anything. That's bull! I'm a dude and that's the biggest bunch of crap I've ever heard in my life. They'll say anything to get in a chick's pants without protection. LOL Sure we all love boning chicks without condoms. Of course, it feels good! The solution is simple. Buy a box of Okamotos (they're so thin, they don't feel like they are on) and keep everybody else safe.

Again, I don't want to discourage members from posting their thoughts. This is a good topic. And if you like to BBFS, it's ok to speak up.[/QUOTE]It is OK to disagree with me, that is your choice. You said there is no valid reason for BBFS, are you over 60? Try being 60+, and have no significant other to worry about infecting, and not worrying about fathering young ones. If it comes down to getting off or not, methinks you might reconsider.

I worry about both HIV and HSV, not HPV, because I most likely already have it, and so do you. (it is estimated that 75+% of adult males have it already.) HIV is hard for a guy to catch, pretty low odds even with an infected partner.

It's a tough call to report it or not. You want to warn everyone but then again when you do, the girl gets popular. I've had providers tell me they get requests daily almost. I think the numbers are higher than anyone wants to admit.

As far as SA girls. More are willing to do BBFS than are not in my experiences.

[QUOTE=JimmyJohn1987;2997410]It's a tough call to report it or not. You want to warn everyone but then again when you do, the girl gets popular. I've had providers tell me they get requests daily almost. I think the numbers are higher than anyone wants to admit.

As far as SA girls. More are willing to do BBFS than are not in my experiences.[/QUOTE]If you are concerned about being with a girl that does BBFS, then you need to get out of the hobby. Virtually all of the workers in St Louis will readily do BBFS. There are plenty of guys that "test" girls to see if they readily give up BBFS, because they do not want to do a girl that does BBFS. A lot of girls know this, so there are a LOT of girls that will tell you they don't do BBFS when you are negotiating with them. When I ask a girl, and she says she doesn't do it, then I politely tell her I understand, and then offer to drop her off (if a SW) or start to leave (if a BP girl). However, once I start to do this, they change their story most of the time. Or say, OK, but want to charge more. And, a lot of girls don't want to get pregnant, so being fixed has an advantage. And I get tested every 3 months and carry paperwork for the high-end escorts. Also, there are lots of girls that won't do BBFS with young guys, but will with older men. I am nice, clean, polite, fairly good looking for an old dude, and I pay well. If it comes between getting a good payday from me, versus a greasy, young, shady dude that treats her like shit and needles her down for a 20 buck blowjob, what is better for her?

Like I said, all 6 girls I fucked when I was in St Louis went BBFS. Half were resistant at first, but warmed up to it like I said above. I have never pressured anyone to do something against their will. They simply won't get my money, it is their choice.

Just FYI, one pretty young lass in St Louis, once we finished, told me to please come back and see her, because most of the guys in St Louis are dirtbags that treat girls like shit. It isn't your city, it is the same in most cities, that a lot of mongers are cheap-ass dirtbags that treat girls like shit. And then they come on these forums about nice guys like me that come into town and jack prices up. Treat girls nicely and pay them well, and most will accommodate whatever you want.

[QUOTE=BusterHymen;2997354]It is OK to disagree with me, that is your choice. You said there is no valid reason for BBFS, are you over 60? Try being 60+, and have no significant other to worry about infecting, and not worrying about fathering young ones. If it comes down to getting off or not, methinks you might reconsider.

I worry about both HIV and HSV, not HPV, because I most likely already have it, and so do you. (it is estimated that 75+% of adult males have it already.) HIV is hard for a guy to catch, pretty low odds even with an infected partner.[/QUOTE]Marital status nor age justifies BBFS when the community is sharing the same girls. You're only thinking about your own self-gratification and that comes with a price. The price might not be paid by immediate family members because you have no one to worry about, but it will be paid by other mongers that share this philosophy if you happen to get hiv, herpes or some other sh-I-at or some unlucky fucker whose condom breaks while trying to do things the safe way.

[QUOTE=BusterHymen;2997540]If you are concerned about being with a girl that does BBFS, then you need to get out of the hobby. Virtually all of the workers in St Louis will readily do BBFS. There are plenty of guys that "test" girls to see if they readily give up BBFS, because they do not want to do a girl that does BBFS. A lot of girls know this, so there are a LOT of girls that will tell you they don't do BBFS when you are negotiating with them. When I ask a girl, and she says she doesn't do it, then I politely tell her I understand, and then offer to drop her off (if a SW) or start to leave (if a BP girl). However, once I start to do this, they change their story most of the time. Or say, OK, but want to charge more. And, a lot of girls don't want to get pregnant, so being fixed has an advantage. And I get tested every 3 months and carry paperwork for the high-end escorts. Also, there are lots of girls that won't do BBFS with young guys, but will with older men. I am nice, clean, polite, fairly good looking for an old dude, and I pay well. If it comes between getting a good payday from me, versus a greasy, young, shady dude that treats her like shit and needles her down for a 20 buck blowjob, what is better for her?

Like I said, all 6 girls I fucked when I was in St Louis went BBFS. Half were resistant at first, but warmed up to it like I said above. I have never pressured anyone to do something against their will. They simply won't get my money, it is their choice.

Just FYI, one pretty young lass in St Louis, once we finished, told me to please come back and see her, because most of the guys in St Louis are dirtbags that treat girls like shit. It isn't your city, it is the same in most cities, that a lot of mongers are cheap-ass dirtbags that treat girls like shit. And then they come on these forums about nice guys like me that come into town and jack prices up. Treat girls nicely and pay them well, and most will accommodate whatever you want.[/QUOTE]All girls do BBFS. That's only logical. The problem is if they do it with any random fucker that's willing to give them an extra $20. Many of us know who these girls are and we either make sure we suit up when seeing them or head the other direction. Even though all girls will do BBFS, they won't all do it with some random fucker they've never met. There are actually some smart working girls that don't fall for that bull.

I've taught a few girls about the "fear of loss" tactic which you use. All good salespeople use it. The women that do this generally don't care how good you look. Their intent is not to marry you. They simply want your cash. You are a meal ticket to get them what they need. So if a girl is in need whether it's to get her sh-I-at or to take care of some expenses, then if you're the only fucker that she's had all day that called then she's probably going to reconsider and that's the unfortunate thing.

Girls that understand the game, don't let themselves get caught up into the BBFS cycle. Girls that are hooked on something lack that management system and therefore are unable to give the BBFSer the middle finger and send him on his way. They fall for things like: 45, white, married or 65, fixed and widowed. LOL. This is true! I've seen it time after time. And some girls fall for it! Like these guys can't carry the hiv virus.

One thing that girls must understand, is if a guy has the balls to ask for BBFS the first time he has met you, then he's asking a bunch of other broads that might be accepting the deal and it's just nasty. Guys, if a girl let's you BBFS her, you are not special to her! I guarantee she is boning someone else without protection and who's to say who else or what else that other guy is sticking his picker inside.

Again BBFS with your wife, girlfriend, sugarbaby or tightly shared girl is the safest bet. I'm not putting BBFSers down, they just shouldn't be banging girls the rest of the community is banging unless they wrap it up.

[QUOTE=BusterHymen;2997540]If you are concerned about being with a girl that does BBFS, then you need to get out of the hobby. Virtually all of the workers in St Louis will readily do BBFS. There are plenty of guys that "test" girls to see if they readily give up BBFS, because they do not want to do a girl that does BBFS. A lot of girls know this, so there are a LOT of girls that will tell you they don't do BBFS when you are negotiating with them. When I ask a girl, and she says she doesn't do it, then I politely tell her I understand, and then offer to drop her off (if a SW) or start to leave (if a BP girl). However, once I start to do this, they change their story most of the time. Or say, OK, but want to charge more. And, a lot of girls don't want to get pregnant, so being fixed has an advantage. And I get tested every 3 months and carry paperwork for the high-end escorts. Also, there are lots of girls that won't do BBFS with young guys, but will with older men. I am nice, clean, polite, fairly good looking for an old dude, and I pay well. If it comes between getting a good payday from me, versus a greasy, young, shady dude that treats her like shit and needles her down for a 20 buck blowjob, what is better for her?

Like I said, all 6 girls I fucked when I was in St Louis went BBFS. Half were resistant at first, but warmed up to it like I said above. I have never pressured anyone to do something against their will. They simply won't get my money, it is their choice.

Just FYI, one pretty young lass in St Louis, once we finished, told me to please come back and see her, because most of the guys in St Louis are dirtbags that treat girls like shit. It isn't your city, it is the same in most cities, that a lot of mongers are cheap-ass dirtbags that treat girls like shit. And then they come on these forums about nice guys like me that come into town and jack prices up. Treat girls nicely and pay them well, and most will accommodate whatever you want.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your honesty, it really is appreciated. And thanks to everyone else for being civil. BBFSCIP is a huge fetish for me. Nothing better than burying a huge load super deep. But, I will never do it in the hobby. I, unlike you, have a lot to lose.

It's not a good thing when mongers feel that unsafe practices is no big deal!! I do agree that providers are open and reckless with sex acts because financial hardship or the feeling of desperation. But also be aware that drug addiction is very prominent in the business which makes health and diseases are really at the forefront of this behavior. So if you remove the fantasy aspect or the ideal of doing something naughty which excites you. Then this having fun can become a true nightmare!! Reconsider playing roulette with your health!

[QUOTE=BigDaveCotton;2998311]It's not a good thing when mongers feel that unsafe practices is no big deal!! I do agree that providers are open and reckless with sex acts because financial hardship or the feeling of desperation. But also be aware that drug addiction is very prominent in the business which makes health and diseases are really at the forefront of this behavior. So if you remove the fantasy aspect or the ideal of doing something naughty which excites you. Then this having fun can become a true nightmare!! Reconsider playing roulette with your health![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Recapacitar;2998067]Marital status nor age justifies BBFS when the community is sharing the same girls. You're only thinking about your own self-gratification and that comes with a price. The price might not be paid by immediate family members because you have no one to worry about, but it will be paid by other mongers that share this philosophy if you happen to get hiv, herpes or some other sh-I-at or some unlucky fucker whose condom breaks while trying to do things the safe way.[/QUOTE][BLUE]I gotta jump in. Either wrapping it up works or it doesn't. If it does then it doesn't matter what they do, if it doesn't then you may as well go bare yourself.

You can't tell them that you wrap it up in order to play safe and that they should do the same, then in the same breath tell them that them that not wrapping it up makes it more likely for you to catch something with your wrapped up dick. Be honest, you think they should wrap it up because that's what you do and you enjoy arguing with people who don't do what you think is right. This has nothing to do with controlling the spread of disease.

I will add, I'm a wrap it up guy, 100% of the time, no exceptions. That's what I do with MY dick. If one of these guys is borrowing my dick to fuck some chick then they need to wrap up my dick while they are borrowing it. If they are using their own dick then how they use their dick is their business and not mine, nor is it yours.

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[QUOTE=BusterHymen;2997540]If you are concerned about being with a girl that does BBFS, then you need to get out of the hobby. Virtually all of the workers in St Louis will readily do BBFS. There are plenty of guys that "test" girls to see if they readily give up BBFS, because they do not want to do a girl that does BBFS. A lot of girls know this, so there are a LOT of girls that will tell you they don't do BBFS when you are negotiating with them. When I ask a girl, and she says she doesn't do it, then I politely tell her I understand, and then offer to drop her off (if a SW) or start to leave (if a BP girl). However, once I start to do this, they change their story most of the time. Or say, OK, but want to charge more. And, a lot of girls don't want to get pregnant, so being fixed has an advantage. And I get tested every 3 months and carry paperwork for the high-end escorts. Also, there are lots of girls that won't do BBFS with young guys, but will with older men. I am nice, clean, polite, fairly good looking for an old dude, and I pay well. If it comes between getting a good payday from me, versus a greasy, young, shady dude that treats her like shit and needles her down for a 20 buck blowjob, what is better for her?

Like I said, all 6 girls I fucked when I was in St Louis went BBFS. Half were resistant at first, but warmed up to it like I said above. I have never pressured anyone to do something against their will. They simply won't get my money, it is their choice.

Just FYI, one pretty young lass in St Louis, once we finished, told me to please come back and see her, because most of the guys in St Louis are dirtbags that treat girls like shit. It isn't your city, it is the same in most cities, that a lot of mongers are cheap-ass dirtbags that treat girls like shit. And then they come on these forums about nice guys like me that come into town and jack prices up. Treat girls nicely and pay them well, and most will accommodate whatever you want.[/QUOTE]To your knowledge, why do they deny BBFS with younger guys? I'm just curious.