OPSEC. Operattional Security

[QUOTE=SonChi;6526940]Many of your apps are desperate for your location, so they use your phone's attept to connect to a wifi Hotspot to triangulate your position. Then your phone stores it and provides it to Google Maps. If your warden wanted to, she could show you where you have been over the past 7 days. I have been shown the data by a former warden.

Bluetooth is fine, it's a near field tech.

Mosaic in Fairfax is the site of many FCs.[/QUOTE]OMFG. I had no idea. Thanks for the explanation, I totally get it. I will be taking the step of turning off WiFi whenever I am away from home, the only place I use it. Not turning off my phone but turning off WIFI (so Google Maps has no idea) should not really alarm a tech-savvy warden, which thankfully mine is not.

And, I am an interloper on this thread, I live on the west coast, but there are few places where one can get accurate technical information.

I have recently become sensitized to the power of facial recognition sites, and the risk they pose to our anonymity in the sugar bowl. Not so much concerning the warden. There are posts all over here on that, including from me.

[QUOTE=SonChi;6526940]Many of your apps are desperate for your location, so they use your phone's attept to connect to a wifi Hotspot to triangulate your position. Then your phone stores it and provides it to Google Maps. If your warden wanted to, she could show you where you have been over the past 7 days. I have been shown the data by a former warden.

Bluetooth is fine, it's a near field tech.

Mosaic in Fairfax is the site of many FCs.[/QUOTE]One other question. Obviously, they know where your phone was based on which cell phone towers it pinged off of. Why doesn't the phone provide this to Google maps as well? Or if it does, it is truly the case that I can't have my phone on when I am off path of my usual habits.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6527394]One other question. Obviously, they know where your phone was based on which cell phone towers it pinged off of. Why doesn't the phone provide this to Google maps as well? Or if it does, it is truly the case that I can't have my phone on when I am off path of my usual habits.[/QUOTE]Just turn your location off. Then the the apps cannot print out the play by play. It will try to bridge gaps between when you had it on and off, but those specific places will not be there. And that's the point.

I say Google, because most of us have a Gmail but this goes for many apps, including Waze and others.

Again, do not ignore how tech savvy motivated wardens are. I will say this again: motivated SOs are not private investigators, they are archaeologists. Stay low!

[QUOTE=SonChi;6528031]Just turn your location off. Then the the apps cannot print out the play by play. It will try to bridge gaps between when you had it on and off, but those specific places will not be there. And that's the point.

I say Google, because most of us have a Gmail but this goes for many apps, including Waze and others.

Again, do not ignore how tech savvy motivated wardens are. I will say this again: motivated SOs are not private investigators, they are archaeologists. Stay low![/QUOTE]Agreed. Here is one that is lo-tech, but difficult to figure out a solution to. Lots of places have toll-based highways. You have to have an account in advance, you can get billed via your license plate, or a tag of some sort you put on your car. Each month I get a statement that gives the time I passed each of the tolling spots. Sometimes that might look funny to the SO. I do try to avoid getting time-stamped by that system when I can, but sometimes it is a balance between being able to get to work in a timely way (but using the tolled road).

This is one a lot of people would not think about, but of course you are vulnerable should the warden do so and dig in.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6528293]Agreed. Here is one that is lo-tech, but difficult to figure out a solution to. Lots of places have toll-based highways. You have to have an account in advance, you can get billed via your license plate, or a tag of some sort you put on your car. Each month I get a statement that gives the time I passed each of the tolling spots. Sometimes that might look funny to the SO. I do try to avoid getting time-stamped by that system when I can, but sometimes it is a balance between being able to get to work in a timely way (but using the tolled road).

This is one a lot of people would not think about, but of course you are vulnerable should the warden do so and dig in.[/QUOTE]I had to chuckle at this because the Mrs is definitely an archeologist and has snooped our EZ Pass account. Glad to have learned this before I started the hobby. So I'm stuck with adventures in areas without toll roads unless I have other justifiable business in those areas. Fortunately, I've learned there's a fly fishing and military surplus stores in the 2 areas I want to visit next.

[QUOTE=SonChi;6528031]Just turn your location off. Then the the apps cannot print out the play by play. It will try to bridge gaps between when you had it on and off, but those specific places will not be there. And that's the point.

I say Google, because most of us have a Gmail but this goes for many apps, including Waze and others.

Again, do not ignore how tech savvy motivated wardens are. I will say this again: motivated SOs are not private investigators, they are archaeologists. Stay low![/QUOTE]Could you provide a how-to for us to check our own mapping? Here's my guess. Log into the google account that goes w / our Android phone, and then go to google maps and see what it says.

Please correct if needed. I will do this first w / my burner account, because it might be the case that logging into the google account that goes w / my IRL cell phone might trigger some security alerts, and who knows where those might go.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6528293]Agreed. Here is one that is lo-tech, but difficult to figure out a solution to. Lots of places have toll-based highways. You have to have an account in advance, you can get billed via your license plate, or a tag of some sort you put on your car. Each month I get a statement that gives the time I passed each of the tolling spots. Sometimes that might look funny to the SO. I do try to avoid getting time-stamped by that system when I can, but sometimes it is a balance between being able to get to work in a timely way (but using the tolled road).

This is one a lot of people would not think about, but of course you are vulnerable should the warden do so and dig in.[/QUOTE]If your warden is already sniffing around, then it means you have already fucked up and given her reason to be suspicious. Once they get suspicious, it's too late to do anything about it other than lay low for a while.

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;6529395]If your warden is already sniffing around, then it means you have already fucked up and given her reason to be suspicious. Once they get suspicious, it's too late to do anything about it other than lay low for a while.[/QUOTE]I completely agree on this one.

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;6529395]If your warden is already sniffing around, then it means you have already fucked up and given her reason to be suspicious. Once they get suspicious, it's too late to do anything about it other than lay low for a while.[/QUOTE]Agreed, but it still pays to take some basic precautions to avoid a trail they can use to retroactively track your activities. Simple things like checking "Avoid Tolls" and activating Incognito Mode in Google Maps can prevent future unpleasantness.

[QUOTE=IntrepidSailor;6529887]Agreed, but it still pays to take some basic precautions to avoid a trail they can use to retroactively track your activities. Simple things like checking "Avoid Tolls" and activating Incognito Mode in Google Maps can prevent future unpleasantness.[/QUOTE]The first part of your post, what's your point?

What is that mode in GM? Is that on your phone? Or on the website?

I did what I said I was going to do, log into google w / the email address for my burner account and try to get location info. I was unable to find anything in my timeline, which I took as a good thing.

Technical details welcome.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6530731]The first part of your post, what's your point?

What is that mode in GM? Is that on your phone? Or on the website?

I did what I said I was going to do, log into google w / the email address for my burner account and try to get location info. I was unable to find anything in my timeline, which I took as a good thing.

Technical details welcome.[/QUOTE]Incognito Mode is a setting in your browser (or GM application) that stops it from saving your search history, site data, and cookies to your local device. This by no means make you untraceable, but at least prevents a casual inspection of your device from revealing your recent activity.

[QUOTE=IntrepidSailor;6531128]Incognito Mode is a setting in your browser (or GM application) that stops it from saving your search history, site data, and cookies to your local device. This by no means make you untraceable, but at least prevents a casual inspection of your device from revealing your recent activity.[/QUOTE]OK, of course IK this setting, I always use it whenever I am doing anything w / sugar on a browser, just didn't know that name. 'Private' is the setting I most often see.

I also always use a VPN into a large organization's server (I work for).

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6528750]Could you provide a how-to for us to check our own mapping? Here's my guess. Log into the google account that goes w / our Android phone, and then go to google maps and see what it says.

Please correct if needed. I will do this first w / my burner account, because it might be the case that logging into the google account that goes w / my IRL cell phone might trigger some security alerts, and who knows where those might go.[/QUOTE]On Android, go to your settings, and click on Location, then click Location Services. You will then see a menu where you can choose to display Location History and Location Sharing among others. Take a peek and see what you are sharing. Stay low!

[QUOTE=SonChi;6531997]On Android, go to your settings, and click on Location, then click Location Services. You will then see a menu where you can choose to display Location History and Location Sharing among others. Take a peek and see what you are sharing. Stay low![/QUOTE]I did post what I found on my burner account, and it was nothing, but that is not surprising to me, I don't have location services activated on my burner.

I also don't have location services activated on my IRL phone. I still would like to check if there is anything in my history.

So I am wondering about * From time to time doing DD I have run into SBs who have OF pages.

So going to OF, I can sign up, but most of the content is Adult in nature and thus OF requires one to verify they are 18-yo to see such adult stuff. Shoot looked a several profiles of hot ladies, but because I'm not age verified, can't see the public posts, some of which appears to be quite x-rated (from the description).

I looked around the 'net and it looks like there is no way around this age verification requirement by OF. So. That means one has to provide a valid I'd to sign up. Not something I normally do. I don't mix IRL info with Sugar Dating or my Sugar Identity.

So from an OpSec perspective the only two things I can think of are:

1) Create an entirely new identity for OF purposes only and do not tie that in any way to the Sugaring or Mongering activity. Look but don't touch!

2) Get a fake I'd card and try to use that for age verification purposes on OF.

I think the first approach would not allow me to take conversations from the OF to the Sugaring I'd and create a link between them, so it becomes a 'look, but don't touch' proposition. The second approach, fake I'd could fail, especially if OF has some connection to state D / L databases and can verify if the info on the fake I'd is indeed fake!

Has anyone had this same OpSec problem and has a solution? TIA!