[QUOTE=NoseJelly;35634126]I like it when guys pull it out off my ass and cum on my face.[/QUOTE]That's gay.
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[QUOTE=NoseJelly;35634126]I like it when guys pull it out off my ass and cum on my face.[/QUOTE]That's gay.
[QUOTE=MetroRider;3566697]No One sucks as much dick as me!!![/QUOTE]Nothing to brag about Punk. If you didn't like the taste so much, I'd slap it out of your EastsiiiiDe Kid Rock mouth.
[QUOTE=MetroRider;3568262]Mommy! When you're done cutting the crust off my PB&J sandwich, will you trim my toenails again?.[/QUOTE]How embarrassing!
[QUOTE=FlowMaster1;3567806]Millennial's are stealing your jobs and SW's get use to it. Old men need not apply LOL.[/QUOTE]I make more money than most millennials your point is invalid.
[QUOTE=MrLovaLova1;3568650]I make more money than most millennials your point is invalid.[/QUOTE]Only for four years or after internship than your job. Kind of a sobering thought isn't it?
What the hell is going on with rates? $80-100 for ss 100-120 for hhr $175-200 for hr. Why the hell are people paying this? I don't mind paying $200 or more for quality pussy but 99% of these BP bitches are glorified street walkers with a phone. People ***** about gps then they are out encouraging it paying $100- $120 for hh which alot of times turns out to be nothing more than a BJ. Benz1 please chime in here. You people ever hear of negotiating? Espesially with BP all jacked up they can't advertise like before. I'm starting to see them on Craigslist now. I had one quote me 150 hr. I said no I would do 120 hr msog and she came to me. Now I'm a regular $80 for the hour. If she calls me it's 60 hr msog. C'Mon. Stop gps before it to late.
[QUOTE=Bth9318;3571679]What the hell is going on with rates? $80-100 for ss 100-120 for hhr $175-200 for hr. Why the hell are people paying this? I don't mind paying $200 or more for quality pussy but [b]99% of these BP bitches are glorified street walkers with a phone[/b]. People ***** about gps then they are out encouraging it paying $100- $120 for hh which alot of times turns out to be nothing more than a BJ. Benz1 please chime in here. You people ever hear of negotiating? Espesially with BP all jacked up they can't advertise like before. I'm starting to see them on Craigslist now. I had one quote me 150 hr. I said no I would do 120 hr msog and she came to me. Now I'm a regular $80 for the hour. If she calls me it's 60 hr msog. C'Mon. Stop gps before it to late.[/QUOTE]Very true, and if it wasn't for the internet the other 1% would be walking too. What it really comes down to is, 95% of hobbyist are just fucking dumb and spineless when it comes to pussy. They will negotiate the price of a new car, house, furniture, etc, but when it comes to pussy they won't even ask if it's CBJ or BBBJ. They just hope for the best.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;3568309]How embarrassing![/QUOTE]How is that embarrassing? She even make me meatloaf. - [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCYArey8ykU[/URL].
Maybe if your mother got her ass off Division for a night she might do something nice for you.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;3568303]Nothing to brag about Punk. If you didn't like the taste so much, I'd slap it out of your EastsiiiiDe Kid Rock mouth.[/QUOTE]1st it was lame as shit to copy me but with your use of the word "punk" I'm assuming your ass is old as fuck so I'll let it slide. 2nd Kid Rock is bad ass unlike that faggity ass Barry Manilow shit your boyfriend fucks your ass too.
[QUOTE=Bth9318;3571679]What the hell is going on with rates? $80-100 for ss 100-120 for hhr $175-200 for hr. Why the hell are people paying this? I don't mind paying $200 or more for quality pussy but 99% of these BP bitches are glorified street walkers with a phone. People ***** about gps then they are out encouraging it paying $100- $120 for hh which alot of times turns out to be nothing more than a BJ. Benz1 please chime in here. You people ever hear of negotiating? Espesially with BP all jacked up they can't advertise like before. I'm starting to see them on Craigslist now. I had one quote me 150 hr. I said no I would do 120 hr msog and she came to me. Now I'm a regular $80 for the hour. If she calls me it's 60 hr msog. C'Mon. Stop gps before it to late.[/QUOTE]First of all I would never make the appointment for anything more than 60 SS. I've been very successful at 30 and 40 if you do it right.
Text on a Tuesday between 10:30 and noon (checkout time) using a phone app on my hobby phone. The first text will be a negotiation I probably won't get, 30 ss or car date. Saying I want BBBJCIM ws. It rarely works on the first call, It usually fails.
I text again in another 10 min. Using my real hoby phone number and add 10 or 15 to my last offer with my other number. She didn't get any calls in between and it's a better offer than the last one I made from my phone app number. She usually says Yes how fast can you get here. I need room rent.
I love eating fine tasting pussy, I'm usually there hhr because they love it too.
The rate you set on the first visit usually holds for future appointments. But not on Friday or Saturday. Plan ahead, never be horny on a Friday or Saturday, you will usually get shorted or ripped off with bad service.
Never pay upfront, show her the money and put it back in your pocket. This will help secure the sevice negotiated and avoid upselling. Don't forget to pay at the end.
This only works on Tuesday and Wednesday. Business picks up later in the week and they are getting other calls, you will be ignored.
Always be willing to walk out on the upsell, when I say I want BBBJCIM I also tell them I'm recently showered too. I've been told cim is more money, while I'm laying on the bed with my pants off. I get up to leave, before my hand hits the doorknob they are retracting the upsell.
Negotiations in MP are the same process, when I say I need a BJ and they say HJ, I will only give 20 tip. They say 40, I say don't worry about it and start jerkin off, before I get to the 4th stroke they are doing it for 20. But never on a Friday or Saturday.
While they are giving me the BBBJ I do some upsell in of my own. "I just got one yesterday, this might take awhile. Have you ever given a prostrate massage?" No? "I can teach you". LOL, works most of the time.
Should I add this to my 12 step TOFTT Program?
No GPS for me, stay smart, stay safe.
[QUOTE=Benz1;3572633]First of all I would never make the appointment for anything more than 60 SS. I've been very successful at 30 and 40 if you do it right.
Text on a Tuesday between 10:30 and noon (checkout time) using a phone app on my hobby phone. The first text will be a negotiation I probably won't get, 30 ss or car date. Saying I want BBBJCIM ws. It rarely works on the first call, It usually fails.
I text again in another 10 min. Using my real hoby phone number and add 10 or 15 to my last offer with my other number. She didn't get any calls in between and it's a better offer than the last one I made from my phone app number. She usually says Yes how fast can you get here. I need room rent.
I love eating fine tasting pussy, I'm usually there hhr because they love it too.
The rate you set on the first visit usually holds for future appointments. But not on Friday or Saturday. Plan ahead, never be horny on a Friday or Saturday, you will usually get shorted or ripped off with bad service.
Never pay upfront, show her the money and put it back in your pocket. This will help secure the sevice negotiated and avoid upselling. Don't forget to pay at the end.
This only works on Tuesday and Wednesday. Business picks up later in the week and they are getting other calls, you will be ignored.
Always be willing to walk out on the upsell, when I say I want BBBJCIM I also tell them I'm recently showered too. I've been told cim is more money, while I'm laying on the bed with my pants off. I get up to leave, before my hand hits the doorknob they are retracting the upsell.
Negotiations in MP are the same process, when I say I need a BJ and they say HJ, I will only give 20 tip. They say 40, I say don't worry about it and start jerkin off, before I get to the 4th stroke they are doing it for 20. But never on a Friday or Saturday.
While they are giving me the BBBJ I do some upsell in of my own. "I just got one yesterday, this might take awhile. Have you ever given a prostrate massage?" No? "I can teach you". LOL, works most of the time.
Should I add this to my 12 step TOFTT Program?
No GPS for me, stay smart, stay safe.[/QUOTE]Yes well said. Same with metro rider I agree with that also. I love the don't be horny on the weekend. I would have posted in the BP section but worried about being censored. You never know around here. Maybe you should add to the tofft. Because sometimes when they are use to getting $120 hhr that that these bozo's are paying then they cop an additude with you or try to hurry you when you do talk them down.
[QUOTE=Benz1;3572633]First of all I would never make the appointment for anything more than 60 SS. I've been very successful at 30 and 40 if you do it right.[/QUOTE]Good info. My thoughts: Are these girls who you never hit up before or haven't in a Long time, who are "Meh"? Obviously not seemingly GPS, but ones who are a few steps lower than seemingly not GPS, and not ones you'd figure you'd repeat, but heard/remembered they were kosher (or TOFTT)?
[QUOTE]Negotiations in MP are the same process, when I say I need a BJ and they say HJ, I will only give 20 tip. They say 40, I say don't worry about it and start jerkin off, before I get to the 4th stroke they are doing it for 20. But never on a Friday or Saturday.[/QUOTE]But what about the situation where they don't rule out BJ, but throw out two separate prices on each? In your example, it covers the HJ for 20 instead of 40, right? So what if she says 60 if you want me to kiss it, but to touch it, it's 40 ? What angle do you play there?
[QUOTE=Charlie441;3572795]Good info. My thoughts: Are these girls who you never hit up before or haven't in a Long time, who are "Meh"? Obviously not seemingly GPS, but ones who are a few steps lower than seemingly not GPS, and not ones you'd figure you'd repeat, but heard/remembered they were kosher (or TOFTT)?
But what about the situation where they don't rule out BJ, but throw out two separate prices on each? In your example, it covers the HJ for 20 instead of 40, right? So what if she says 60 if you want me to kiss it, but to touch it, it's 40 ? What angle do you play there?[/QUOTE]The 20 HJ is for your typical rub and tug. My cock is just one more muscle for them to massage, They should do their job without attitude! After I tip them 20 I don't plan on seeing them again.
It's rare to find a girl with great massage skills in GR, I'm very picky. I can only think of two girls in GR that have the right skills, and attitude worth rewarding more than 20. Amy at Healthy Habits I've seen her a few times and she is well worth the matching door fee that is expected for a great massage and stellar ending. The other one is Natasha (Queen of Panacea) I have not seen her yet, our schedules haven't worked out and hopefully someday I will have the opportunity to see her. Natasha has had continuous rave reviews from multiple sources over many years, those reviews from many including our seniors have made the statement: she does not require the tip up front and the experience is repeatedly awesome. Do not short these women, just because they don't ask upfront. They are both a rare find in GR, keep them happy with at least a matching door fee.
Answering the HJ / BJ question: The BJ price I will pay reflects a few things, was the massage good, if no I apply the escort price, I can get a BJ for 40 because I don't know if this girl has BJ or prostrate massage skills, I already know she doesn't have the massage skills for me to return. If her massage skills suck she probably has a lousy rushed BJ too. That's why its 40 max.
Do I want to return and get the same great service and she is offering BJ? Will she take direction well? BLS, Swallow and tell you how good you taste, let you see it dripping off her chin then use her finger to swipe it back into her mouth with a slurp and a grin? That girl gets a good tip. At least 60. Those girls no how to work it and end up with sugar daddies.
This is being written on the fight tread so here we go.
A good example of MP GPS is Brittany25. She wants 80 for a half hour, that's 40 for the hhr and 40 tip upfront. I don't get to decide if it was worth tipping and she could be having a rushed or bad day. Sorry I don't play that way. Brittany will never get my business with GPS.
Comment and White Knight her if you want too. It won't change my opinion of a girl that demands tip up front. That is GPS.
Add Linda at Pacific 44th. Everything you described below is her.
[QUOTE=Benz1;3572911]
It's rare to find a girl with great massage skills in GR, I'm very picky. I can only think of two girls in GR that have the right skills, and attitude worth rewarding more than 20. Amy at Healthy Habits I've seen her a few times and she is well worth the matching door fee that is expected for a great massage and stellar ending. The other one is Natasha (Queen of Panacea) I have not seen her yet, our schedules haven't worked out and hopefully someday I will have the opportunity to see her. Natasha has had continuous rave reviews from multiple sources over many years, those reviews from many including our seniors have made the statement: she does not require the tip up front and the experience is repeatedly awesome. Do not short these women, just because they don't ask upfront. They are both a rare find in GR, keep them happy with at least a matching door.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bth9318;3572715]Yes well said. Same with metro rider I agree with that also. I love the don't be horny on the weekend. I would have posted in the BP section but worried about being censored. You never know around here. Maybe you should add to the tofft. Because sometimes when they are use to getting $120 hhr that that these bozo's are paying then they cop an additude with you or try to hurry you when you do talk them down.[/QUOTE]If they want 120 hhr, let some other fool pay that. If we unite on pricing they will have to move to Kalamazoo or Detroit but not Lansing, Lansing mongers won't pay those prices and the girls know it. So it can be done, they also don't share very many links or reviews publicly, you have to earn your stripes to receive the hidden treasures of Lansing.
The choice is ours, they will charge as much as we let them. If roles were reversed, we would do the same, so we can't blame them if they think one or two fools set the price.