[QUOTE=ChefDepartie;6573057]What are the crossroads? Pretty sure I saw Crystal at OB. One of my ATF.[/QUOTE]West Broadway Road.
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[QUOTE=ChefDepartie;6573057]What are the crossroads? Pretty sure I saw Crystal at OB. One of my ATF.[/QUOTE]West Broadway Road.
[QUOTE=DesertRat;6573532]1) Show up as no appt necessary. (Lunch times on Monday and Friday are busy, Sundays are very slow).
2) Ask to see lineup / who's available. (If they are busy you may only have a choice of one girl. I suggest visiting only the best places like Great Spa in Peoria or Aloha in Mesa.).
3) If no good. Say no thanks and leave? (Yes, if a Mama-san answers the windows and is the only one working just politely say no thank you and leave. If they are wearing scrubs leave.).
4) if staying pay standard massage fee for HH / HR. (60 for one hour and 40 for one half hour is standard).
5) Go to room. Is now the time to request specific services and negotiate? (Strip naked and lay face down on the table. Way until they ask you for flip over. Then touch her bum and negotiate. If they recoil at your touch you know there are no extras. A HJ is usually 60. BJ is usually 100. Sex is 140. Do NOT pay more than this rate.).
6) If agreed upon service / roses then possible pre-shower and then onto fun. (Some punters want to wait until after the deed. In a good place I am fine tipping in advance.).
7) If negotiation standstill then get standard massage and leave with blue balls. (Yes if they refuse to budge on above prices hit the door. If they lower the price you will get substandard care.).
Does this apply to both AMP and Latino? (No, Latino places usually rush or ignore the massage and just ask to fuck. Usually their prices are 100 over an AMP for everything above).
My best dream is Latino with banging body and MM's. Serviced with DFK, TUMA / Rim, and BBBJCIM finish. Is $$ to $$. 5 roses. (Yes that can happen at an MP or an escort.).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the additional info and clarification!
Called Top and confirmed Chloe was available. Set an appointment and arrived on time. Chloe is tiny with small MM's and very enthusiastic.
Didn't even talk about money.
Started with a great table shower with BBBJ and TUMA. In the room she spent time kneeling giving more BBBJ. Very nice. Ran through all the normal positions.
Did I mention she's tiny. Her hands made my dick look huge.
On the way out I saw Barbara and Lulu. Those three make a pretty good lineup. All great providers.
How is the independent game here? Any reccs for non AMP providers?
Well, little head won tonight and I drive him to this place. It was late and no way I'd make it to OB in time nor did I really want to add that drive time.
I had a similar experience. Probably same lady from your description.
The door chime was constantly going off and it was distracting. She stayed in the room but yammered to the other lady several times. Walls are very thin here. And some don't even extend up to the grid!
I stuck to our standard AMP prices and went for lip service after the table shower. Initially, she was shooting for double but came down without hesitation. Thanks for showing her the ropes!
That said, it went about as well as you predicted. But she's only making more work for herself by jumping right in without any warmup. She also likes to pinch nipples. Mine. Hard. Seemed ok in the moment but a little sore after the fact.
I may use in a pinch. Trading mediocre to poor service for convenience.
(Oh, and to the punter that came in and was ushered to a room and had to wait about 10 minutes, I'd suggest that you don't be a dick. If you can't wait, just leave. Don't berate the staff. And after he was rude, he ended up staying. I'm sure his visit was top notch.).
[QUOTE=Captain1954;6572113]Well I ignored a friendly private message from a fellow monger and decided to TOFT well good news door was open leading to reception so you don't have to stand outside exposed in a busy area, the facility is clean and freshly painted and decorated, that's the good news!
No line up, Nancy was chunky for my taste but on we go to TS fast hands but she did get to all the necessary "bits" although rimming did not seem to be on the menu (little English and her translation app couldn't translate rimming).
Back to the room lay face down an started a fast massage everything felt rushed plenty of teasing but rushed her script was her script no deviation, flip said boom boom and $$ I explained what I wanted and she started adding on 20 for each deviation it was like an ala cart menu I countered with 160 standard for a 5/10 looker no insisted on $$ by this time my little head had lost interest and I was just going to get a HJ but remembered the quick hands and didn't want a jackhammer got of table gave her 20 and started dressing through app she agreed to 160 but the time had passed and I left to much muttering.
All in all will not be repeating and should have taken the advice of a fellow monger.
The hunt for the "Unicorn "goes on!!
Happy Mongering.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JayLake;6575178]How is the independent game here? Any reccs for non AMP providers?[/QUOTE]Maya in Tempe, Renee hartz on the west side, Lindsay in Glendale all very good imo.
[QUOTE=KesterDiamond;6575517]Maya in Tempe, Renee hartz on the west side, Lindsay in Glendale all very good imo.[/QUOTE]Maya and Renee are over rated limited menus! I have no experience with Lindsay. Samantha the body builder might be worth checking.
How much therapeutic do you want vs extras? And how do you want your happy ending?
There are several different options. Some folks may not like a hands-only option (Renee, Lindsey) for example. But if that's known up front, and that's what you want, then they are awesome options.
[QUOTE=JayLake;6575178]How is the independent game here? Any reccs for non AMP providers?[/QUOTE]
Anyone been to Spring in Gilbert lately?
[QUOTE=NativeAz53;6575770]Maya and Renee are over rated limited menus! I have no experience with Lindsay. Samantha the body builder might be worth checking.[/QUOTE]Renee gives a great massage with a handshake and is not over rated. Maya has earned a great reputation for a reason, though she is a lot pricier than she was years ago.
[QUOTE=NativeAz53;6575770]Maya and Renee are over rated limited menus! I have no experience with Lindsay. Samantha the body builder might be worth checking.[/QUOTE]Neither are overrated, you go to them for a great sensual massage with he. You know what you are paying for, and they provide what they advertise and do it well. There is zero surprise or disappointment with them unless you think they will do more than they advertise which is on you.
I've seen that body builder, a bit pricey but definitely provides more. Not my thing at all, her look is way too manly, but ain't judging those who like her.
[QUOTE=PowerZ;6574691]Called Top and confirmed Chloe was available. Set an appointment and arrived on time. Chloe is tiny with small MM's and very enthusiastic.
Didn't even talk about money.
Started with a great table shower with BBBJ and TUMA. In the room she spent time kneeling giving more BBBJ. Very nice. Ran through all the normal positions.
Did I mention she's tiny. Her hands made my dick look huge.
On the way out I saw Barbara and Lulu. Those three make a pretty good lineup. All great providers.[/QUOTE]FYI, Blue will be at TOP in September. I got a massage from her last week at Great Spa and she was fantastic.
[QUOTE=KesterDiamond;6576233]Neither are overrated, you go to them for a great sensual massage with he. You know what you are paying for, and they provide what they advertise and do it well. There is zero surprise or disappointment with them unless you think they will do more than they advertise which is on you.
I've seen that body builder, a bit pricey but definitely provides more. Not my thing at all, her look is way too manly, but ain't judging those who like her.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link for Maya. Found a couple on TER but didn't match what's described here.
[QUOTE=DesertRat;6545110]The late model Toyota is idling outside of the AMP. It was there when I arrived and I didn't think much of it. As I turn to walk down the strip mall the car backs out and starts pacing me in the parking lot. I walk into the parking lot of the Applebee's and the car stays behind me a few feet. I go into the delivery entrance of the Applebee's and the car pulls into a spot and middle aged man in a polo shirt and jeans gets out and starts walking towards the entrance where I just came in. I hot foot it out the front entrance and head across the street to the Dental Clinic that is catty-corner on 59th Avenue and Peoria Avenue. The dude follows me over there and now I know something is up. I finally went behind the strip mall and hung out in the Post Office parking lot until the coast was clear. I don't think the dude was LE but he clearly had no so good intentions. Thinking about it now I should have just went back in the AMP and used their cameras to wait him out.[/QUOTE]I had something similar happen in Tucson this month. Another monger actually followed me across town. I think some people get a little carried away with the love games that the providers play sometimes. The situation ended up being harmless, but there are some strange people out there. Stay safe.
I had time to kill in Tempe and thought I should check out Datang Foot Spa on Warner and Kyrene based on their ads. There was a guy meditating on the floor when I waliked in. He told me to come back in 15 but I had to keep moving. I went a few doors down to 90210 and found a couple of women on their 40's-50's so I decided to pass. Total bust for me. I'm curious if anyone else has had different experiences.