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I travel in circles where I see a lot of naked men (don't even speculate) and am amazed at how many guys are growing a forest down there. While I don't do the Brazilian bikini wax like the women I see, I do keep it neat and trim. Women appreciate it. Might help eliminate some YMMV issues.
Getting back to the business at hand, it looks like Tammy is posting on CL again. I know she looks too good to be true, but still was wondering if anyone has seen her?
Just curious.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1076259632.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]I travel in circles where I see a lot of naked men (don't even speculate) and am amazed at how many guys are growing a forest down there. While I don't do the Brazilian bikini wax like the women I see, I do keep it neat and trim. Women appreciate it. Might help eliminate some YMMV issues.[/QUOTE]You drop a line like that and don't want us to speculate? LOL!! I have to agree though. If I want a nice BBBJ I think the least I can do is make sure I am not asking the girl to get a mouth of fur with it, paid or not.
She was an 18 y/o provider that got busted a couple of times and then got out of the business before she got her third arrest (which automatically becomes a felony). She did not offer anything oral. First time I met her, she told me that she did not offer anything oral after I got there. I let her perform her other skills and there was absolutely no tip offered. I love and expect oral. I told her that she should put this in her posts to be very clear. After that point, she did, but she lost a lot of business. At least the mongers knew what was on the menu. Some things are just assumed and I think oral is naturally assumed in this business (covered or uncovered is a reasonable option). Can you imagine seeing a provider that doesn't get undressed as part of her standard offering? Could she get away with that by simply saying that she didn't specify that gets naked in her post?
WOF
[QUOTE=SingleMoms]Make sure you collect your commission on your 5th or 6th or 7th time,,or whichever one you are on.[/QUOTE]
LoL.....no commission here.....just trying to help out since it was my review that got things started...
There should be no problems now since its all spelled out....and I'm a firm believer in "What ever floats your boat" and the power of "Choice"
[QUOTE=True Critic69]Over on TER their is a forum that ONLY providers have access too....Some of the providers I know would let me see what they talk about and that is one popular topic......"What do you do when you have a Hobbyist you dont like or are completely turned off by".........some of their responses are funny, but the main theme through them is......"Your body your choice....that hobbyist might get mad but those you have serviced well will not."
TC69[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but in my opinion, if a provider is turned off by a guy, her ONLY option is to refuse payment and refuse the session.
If a provider tells me, "I'm sorry, I'm not comfortable with this situation. I'm going to have to pass," I'm going to walk away, shaking my head and laughing a bit. But I won't be mad. I'll be glad I still have my money.
If a provider takes a man's money and thinks, "My body, my choice," and refuses to do something bare-bones simple expectations (a provider sucks and fucks, no questions asked) then there is NO WAY she can EVER claim she served someone well. If she took money and did not provide the most basic of expectations in her session, she is nothing more than a scammer and a rip-off. At least for that particular session.
And if she pulls that shit with someone like me, refuses to return my money and has made the mistake of having an enforcer around that wants to jump in if I start protesting her rip-off... Well that poor fucker will regret his decision to take that "job" the rest of his handicapped life.
[QUOTE=Mike Wazowski]Sorry, but in my opinion, if a provider is turned off by a guy, her ONLY option is to refuse payment and refuse the session.
If a provider tells me, "I'm sorry, I'm not comfortable with this situation. I'm going to have to pass," I'm going to walk away, shaking my head and laughing a bit. But I won't be mad. I'll be glad I still have my money.
If a provider takes a man's money and thinks, "My body, my choice," and refuses to do something bare-bones simple expectations (a provider sucks and fucks, no questions asked) then there is NO WAY she can EVER claim she served someone well. If she took money and did not provide the most basic of expectations in her session, she is nothing more than a scammer and a rip-off. At least for that particular session.
And if she pulls that shit with someone like me, refuses to return my money and has made the mistake of having an enforcer around that wants to jump in if I start protesting her rip-off... Well that poor fucker will regret his decision to take that "job" the rest of his handicapped life.[/QUOTE]
Hey Mike
I agree with you 100%........all this was said before any payment made....so the guy can leave if he doesnt like what's on the menu.
Trust me no rip-off here just a HUGE misunderstanding.
Thanks for everyone's comments.
They bring future improvement.
BTW, Ashlynn is nice and polite.
Just something new happend on that day and made me misunderstand her.
I regret to write such a controversial review which may affect her reputation and emotion.
Haha99
1St and foremost, any good provider can usually tell if the client is going to be an issue just by the conversation on the phone, in this business, you should never have to do anything that you don't feel comfortable with. I haven't come across any problems with anyone from this forum yet, with the exception of the client who came and at the end of the appointment, only had half of the donation.
If there is something that is within reason that you do not provide, your advertisement should state. Not f. S. In Boise, there is a provider that does strictly HJ and massage, however ads state GFE. This is clearly misleading.
2nd, please keep in mind that although a provider may seem independent, you don't always know what is going on when you are not there. A good friend of mine, sweet girl, great provider. She has a pimp, and he is an ass! Her clients are fooled, and believe she is independent, I have seen her reviews! Not all girls love this job, as much as I do! Some providers do what they have to do to get the cash for him, and get you out the door and on to the next.
3rd, example. Yesterday, I received a phone call from an ad of mine. It wasn't suspicious in the least, until the guy told me he was a basketball player. When I googled his name, NOTHING! Then I google his #, and up pops 2 CL ads, with a pic of a black male posted m4w, and m4m! Clearly, an unsafe situation, I figured it was some ploy to rob people, and is all out unsafe! The guy was pissed when I cancelled. Let me share this with you. My reviews are ok, I am clearly enjoying what I do, but yes, If it came down to it, I would use any means necessary to protect myself. I have also had clients get too rough, and they get carried away, and don't know when to stop.
My point, there are some providers who are not comfortable with certain clients. My advice, take a little extra time to chat, and get acquainted. Kindness in this business goes a long way. If I don't feel comfortable with you, or you show up and your nuts stink like you haven't bathed in a week, you won't get CBJ or BBBJ, you may even be offered a shower!
Hey guys,
This is Ashlynn (the provider this whole topic is about LOL), not quite sure what all the fuss is about it was understood before any services were performed what he was to expect. He had the opportunity to leave if he so chose. He did not he chose to stay, I would never and have never taken someones money then change rules/agreements etc, etc never have. That's a scam artist and that is something I am not. I have excellent respectful clientele and plan on continuing to deal with them. I do apologize for what is worth to him, however I made it clear in the beginning, I do not post I do anything in my ads whatsoever so wherever that rumor stemmed from it is just that. My ads are very basic and general we all know what we're here for. Uncircumcised men who feel it necessary to have service below should know and now know I would not be the right girl for them, I am sorry, but there is a lot more to the service then that. I could go on in further detail about the actual experience however I choose not to because I do not feel it is necessary, but I will say this I offer a safe, clean environment unrushed, totally relaxing and I am very open minded, I do not speak greek that is the only thing, so for those who do come to see me in the future great, can't wait to meet you. For those who will go solely by one experience based upon a misunderstanding then that is your choice as well no hard feelings. But I do not post I do anything so to assume is just ridiculous imo, this being with much respect to all of you who are customers be it regular or potential. It's like going to look at a car you aren't going to assume it has a cd player you ask before you buy it right? If it doesn't have what you like you leave right? I think it is that simple and plain.
I respect everyone's point of view and will keep all of the tips and ideas etc, etc in mind for the future thanks again.
Ashlynn
I got the idea.
Thanks a lot.
She is currently running an ad on bp.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/_4326_y_0_u_r_4326_d_r_e_a_m_4326_g_i_r_l_25/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1323407[/url]
Many of you know that I'm just a babe in the woods here and as such don't know too much about P4P but here is what I do know.
There is no such thing as a provider that gets enough "regular" customers that she can make a good steady income without a flow of new customers.
This is like saying a restaurant has enough customers they don't need anymore new customers. Do you know any restaurants like that in Orlando? I don't, in fact restaurants are closing ever day and providers leave every day as well and new ones take their place.
I watch the stats on E-R-O-S and you might find 10 out of nearly 200 girls on the site that were on there 6 months ago and this has been true for years.
If you consider yourself, do you see the same girl all the time? Do you see her every week, can she depend on you for steady income? Or are you looking for the ultimate experience and constantly seek pleasure with the next hot chick?
Any girl that is looking to be a "low volume" provider with only a group of "regulars" that she can have a "connection" with is deluding herself.
Even the very high priced local providers like Sindy and Paris Bouvier, girls with outstanding TER reviews still advertise and on C/L to boot.
I'm betting that this young lady Ashlynn won't be around six months from now.
Many young girls come and go in this business because it is one hell of a lot harder than they think it is, they can only delude themselves for so long until reality sets in.----VS
[QUOTE=VerySlowly]Many of you know that I'm just a babe in the woods here and as such don't know too much about P4P but here is what I do know.
There is no such thing as a provider that gets enough "regular" customers that she can make a good steady income without a flow of new customers.
This is like saying a restaurant has enough customers they don't need anymore new customers. Do you know any restaurants like that in Orlando? I don't, in fact restaurants are closing ever day and providers leave every day as well and new ones take their place.
I watch the stats on E-R-O-S and you might find 10 out of nearly 200 girls on the site that were on there 6 months ago and this has been true for years.
If you consider yourself, do you see the same girl all the time? Do you see her every week, can she depend on you for steady income? Or are you looking for the ultimate experience and constantly seek pleasure with the next hot chick?
Any girl that is looking to be a "low volume" provider with only a group of "regulars" that she can have a "connection" with is deluding herself.
Even the very high priced local providers like Sindy and Paris Bouvier, girls with outstanding TER reviews still advertise and on C/L to boot.
I'm betting that this young lady Ashlynn won't be around six months from now.
Many young girls come and go in this business because it is one hell of a lot harder than they think it is, they can only delude themselves for so long until reality sets in.----VS[/QUOTE]
You hit that nail right on the head, VS.
I've met many girls, over the course of my two decades of mongering, who want to see "just a few guys." If I'm on a friendly basis with them, I always try to explain that not every guy is going to have the money to spend on her once a week or more. And a lot of guys who DO have the money to play every week are looking for variety.
I've run into a few girls I've been into enough to find myself calling once a week. Every one of them has acted pissed the first time I miss a week. Then they wonder why I miss every week from that point on.
[QUOTE=True Critic69]Hey Mike
I agree with you 100%........all this was said before any payment made....so the guy can leave if he doesnt like what's on the menu.
Trust me no rip-off here just a HUGE misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]
Like someone else mentioned, TC69, I'm not talking about this specific girl. Just the generalization of providers with the attitude of "my body my choice... He might get mad but not if you service him well."
To that, I'm just saying the girl needs to either buck up and provide (that's what "providers" do) or call off the session.
She needs to just end it. Not try to get by with an excuse about not giving head to a guy who is expecting it.
As for guys showing up skanky and smelly... If that's anyone reading this forum, get your shit together and take a nice shower before you see a girl! We should not even have to worry about a girl finding out after everyone is "comfortable" that giving head isn't going to be pleasant and something to avoid.
[QUOTE=Mike Wazowski]Like someone else mentioned, TC69, I'm not talking about this specific girl. Just the generalization of providers with the attitude of "my body my choice... He might get mad but not if you service him well."
To that, I'm just saying the girl needs to either buck up and provide (that's what "providers" do) or call off the session.
She needs to just end it. Not try to get by with an excuse about not giving head to a guy who is expecting it.
As for guys showing up skanky and smelly... If that's anyone reading this forum, get your shit together and take a nice shower before you see a girl! We should not even have to worry about a girl finding out after everyone is "comfortable" that giving head isn't going to be pleasant and something to avoid.[/QUOTE]
I'm with you on that Mike......had me laughing on the "skanky & smelly part...lol
[QUOTE=Mustangmac]She is currently running an ad on bp.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/_4326_y_0_u_r_4326_d_r_e_a_m_4326_g_i_r_l_25/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1323407[/url][/QUOTE]
Accepts all major credit cards? You are required to enter personal information into "her secure web site". So, are you going to hand out your credit card number and personal identity information to engage in an illegal activity? What if she winds up dead and your info is entered into her website that day? Maybe that is a little too dramatic. Most likely it is just an identity thief.
Any info on Luna, been advertising for a couple of weeks now.
Thanks guys
On another note, there used to be a lot of ads from Sophia's Girls and talk about them, now nothing.
[quote]-:¦:- M -:¦:- I -:¦:- N -:¦:- D -:¦:- B -:¦:-L-:¦:-O-:¦:-W-:¦:-I-:¦: - w4m (ORLANDO)
Reply to: [email]pers-dzaqy-1077050665@craigslist.org[/email] [Errors when replying to ads?]
Date: 2009-03-16, 8:34AM EDT
LUNA
HI GUYS I AM LUNA : (407) *** 4 5 5 - 8 3 4 1 ***[/quote]
If I were you, I'd AVOID any provider that is using a "verification" method. I was burned, and it took me several months to clear my account. This is a scam.
My .02.
[QUOTE=Mustangmac]She is currently running an ad on bp.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/_4326_y_0_u_r_4326_d_r_e_a_m_4326_g_i_r_l_25/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1323407[/url][/QUOTE]
Yesterday, I decided to give Ashlynn a call when I got off work. The first thing I told her was that I scrubbed up real good before punching out. She had a good chuckle out of it, and politely told me that she was booked for the day. She told me that she tried to keep it to four sessions per day, and that she usually booked up fast. In return, I told her that In the near future, I'd call her in the morning to make my afternoon appointment.
Five minutes later, she called me back to advise me of a cancellation. Unfortunately for me, the time that I was quoted would've put me way past my window of activity, and I had to decline. She is definitely on my short list of providers to see.
Nnms46.
Guys, there's a new provider advertising in Maitland. The new gimmick is "the first 5-10 minutes are free". She calls herself Selena. However, she looks an awful lot like Summer. Remember her? She ran with Angelica's crew, but was eventually let go because of her lackluster performances. She was the one who had a boyfriend, and thought it would be cheating only if she enjoyed a session while PROVIDING. Hopefully, she ended that relationship, and is ready to sink her teeth ( pun intended ) into her work.
Nnms46.
I enjoyed your posting and would like to find out more about Ashlyn. I did a search on her name in Craigslist and the Back Page and it found nothing. Would you like to share with us?
[QUOTE=Nnms46]Yesterday, I decided to give Ashlyn a call when I got off work. The first thing I told her was that I scrubbed up real good before punching out. She had a good chuckle out of it, and politely told me that she was booked for the day. She told me that she tried to keep it to four sessions per day, and that she usually booked up fast. In return, I told her that In the near future, I'd call her in the morning to make my afternoon appointment.
Five minutes later, she called me back to advise me of a cancellation. Unfortunately for me, the time that I was quoted would've put me way past my window of activity, and I had to decline. She is definitely on my short list of providers to see.
Nnms46.[/QUOTE]
Her name is Ashlynn.
[QUOTE=Loving302]I enjoyed your posting and would like to find out more about Ashlyn. I did a search on her name in Craigslist and the Back Page and it found nothing. Would you like to share with us?[/QUOTE]
NEW BLONDE F*** DOLL NICE & TIGHT C U M PUT IT IN HERE - w4m - 24 (S.ORLANDO)
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1077904085.html[/url]
Has anyone seen this one?
[QUOTE=Mike Wazowski]I've run into a few girls I've been into enough to find myself calling once a week. Every one of them has acted pissed the first time I miss a week. Then they wonder why I miss every week from that point on.[/QUOTE]There are also those girls that get annoyed when they hear through the grape vine that you've seen another girl; or they just assume that when you see them weekly and miss a week.
If it's because they hear you've seen another girl, I tell them it's because the other provider offered greek (or another service that they don't offer) Usually that has 2 common results: They either shut up, or they offer up da butt.
Either is perfectly fine with me :D
Your rent a girlfriend sounds like wife. She needs to get over herself. All providers should have enough sense to know that variety is the spice of life.
Your "relationship" ends when you walk out the door or she does. There are alot of girls who are stuck on themselves and cannot imagine that you ever need to see anyone but them. They do not last long.
I am getting on a plane and coming down to orlando if she is real for $$.
Thats a Julianne huff look alike.
Honestly, to good to be true, but I am going to call her.
Smiling Fox
According to Victoria! She is a sweet, young & sexy girl visiting our incredible city for a little while & looking forward to meeting some of Orlando's gentlemen while here.
I would love to be one of those gentlemen if anyone has seen her. There are no reviews on TER. Her link is below:
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1077806869.html[/url]
Her photo is also attached.
[QUOTE=Sir Loin]There are also those girls that get annoyed when they hear through the grape vine that you've seen another girl; or they just assume that when you see them weekly and miss a week.
If it's because they hear you've seen another girl, I tell them it's because the other provider offered greek (or another service that they don't offer) Usually that has 2 common results: They either shut up, or they offer up da butt.
Either is perfectly fine with me :D[/QUOTE]
I say she gave me an offer I could not refuse. :)
I've been wanting to relive some stress from some time and I think tonite I'm finally going to take the dive but even before I do I want to try and be safe but I can't seem to find anything about these two girls here are they legit?
Any responses are appriciated and thank you for your help in advance.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1079885510.html[/url]
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1079710203.html[/url]
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1079924730.html[/url]
Anybody had the pleasure of meeting this lady?
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1080333194.html[/url]
She has been posting for a long time now and still no reviews which is usually a bad sign. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Orl Stud26]I've been wanting to relive some stress from some time and I think tonite I'm finally going to take the dive but even before I do I want to try and be safe but I can't seem to find anything about these two girls here are they legit?
Any responses are appriciated and thank you for your help in advance.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1079885510.html[/url]
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1079710203.html[/url]
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1079924730.html[/url][/QUOTE]I have heard nothing but bad things in the few post i can recall about her.
[QUOTE=Misfits]Anybody had the pleasure of meeting this lady?
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1080333194.html[/url]
She has been posting for a long time now and still no reviews which is usually a bad sign. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
The only thing I saw was post #3102 by the beautiful fun and sexy Chocolate Nikk, whom I highly recommend by the way.
Has any body seen this girl?
KATIEluvsGFE
I want to give her a try.
[QUOTE=Orl Stud26]I've been wanting to relive some stress from some time and I think tonite I'm finally going to take the dive but even before I do I want to try and be safe but I can't seem to find anything about these two girls here are they legit?
Any responses are appriciated and thank you for your help in advance.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1079885510.html[/url]
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1079710203.html[/url]
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1079924730.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Read the forum newb. However, if your too lazy to do that, then I would go with this one. Mia the school teacher.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1079924730.html[/url]
Have fun
I see this one is back again.
Save yourself the trouble - that's not her in the picture.
See my report #2602
[QUOTE=Orl Stud26]I've been wanting to relive some stress from some time and I think tonite I'm finally going to take the dive but even before I do I want to try and be safe but I can't seem to find anything about these two girls here are they legit?
Any responses are appriciated and thank you for your help in advance.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1079885510.html[/url]
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1079710203.html[/url]
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1079924730.html[/url][/QUOTE]
There is little information on any of them and the style of thier ads do not give me the vibe of a great experience.
I did a little detective work and this is what I came up with:
I can't find any information here or TER on the first one (Holly and Alyssa).
The second one's (Daisy) phone number matches that of Miley, who did not get a good review on TER. Not sure if it is the same woman, but see post #2092 in this thread.
The last one is Mia the teacher and there clearly are negative reports on her in this thread (see post # 2782) and on TER.
[QUOTE=Warpfactor69]There is little information on any of them and the style of thier ads do not give me the vibe of a great experience.
I did a little detective work and this is what I came up with:
I can't find any information here or TER on the first one (Holly and Alyssa).
The second one's (Daisy) phone number matches that of Miley, who did not get a good review on TER. Not sure if it is the same woman, but see post #2092 in this thread.
The last one is Mia the teacher and there clearly are negative reports on her in this thread (see post # 2782) and on TER.[/QUOTE]
What is wrong with you? Can't you see I was setting him up for failure as punishment for being too lazy to read the forum. I read the forum and new Mia was a waste of time, but he didn't, because he would rather just ask a question, than have to look it up himself. Here you are, doing all his homework for him. You even gave him the post numbers to find out what was said.
I would never do that to anyone who contributes, even if it was only one or two postings, but somethings got to give. Let me make a suggestion. When the guy SAYS he has been reading the forum for years, but just never posted, assume that is BS. Make his ass read. What if it is Leo? I say, just in case it is him, you send him to the Raw Deal type of girls, and get them outta here. I know we all started somewhere, but first time posts should be better than asking a question. At least confirm someone else's posting or something.
I was wondering if anyone know anything about this girl. Looks new to CL and wanted to see if she was legit.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1080892971.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Warpfactor69]The only thing I saw was post #3102 by the beautiful fun and sexy Chocolate Nikk, whom I highly recommend by the way.[/QUOTE]I have had the pleasure of being with Chocolate Nikki a couple of times. And she was bangin both times.