Tats has never reopened since covid hit. I don't know what happened to Marta.
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Tats has never reopened since covid hit. I don't know what happened to Marta.
[QUOTE=Jinurso;5650047]Who is Carla? I don't recall ever seeing her on the CLM roster.[/QUOTE]She's listed on their roster right now. Look at Tuesday. They spell it with a 'K' on the site.
Has anyone seen grandma at 1290 lately?
[QUOTE=EdCarbone;5645606]I recall there were two. The short fat one has only been there less than a year and the tall blonde with a massive chest has been there a long time.[/QUOTE]Decent Swedish technique with Nat. She is a little shy but isn't crabby or cold like a lot of the older Euros. If you're a chest guy, they're reasonably youthful, large, and firm, which is probably the only plus to visiting that office.
[URL]https://chicago.rubratings.com/124214[/URL] / [URL]https://chicago.rubratings.com/138377[/URL].
Saw Tatiana / Tania (got two different names). Pictures on the ads are obviously fake, but the booker sent me some real pics (which were from about 10 years ago). Probably mid-30's, face wasn't bad, nice perky tits and ass.
The place is a dump. One bedroom basement that was pretty messy. It looked like someone lived in the living room and they used the bedroom for this. The bedroom didn't even have proper lighting so she had to leave the door open to let the living room light in.
220 house fee gets you a topless L1, even though I was told it would be body slides. Everything was an upsell. Panties off = $100. L2 = $200. L3 = $300. I didn't bother with anything extra. What really annoyed me is that she kept asking for tips throughout the session (for example, I touched her tits and apparently that also means tips).
She had decent L1 technique but I would avoid this place. Extremely overpriced for the service.
[QUOTE=Seraph2;5636590]I was at 7 H recently and had a great time. Seniors, PM me for details -- I have communicated with some of you before for info and I would not mind sharing with you gents. For the rest, I was there for 1 H and fun times were had and the masseuse had her fund too. .
S2.[/QUOTE]PMed you but no answer. Please read.
[QUOTE=Industrial;5669266]PMed you but no answer. Please read.[/QUOTE]The two Euros that work there are EMP veterans. They know the drill. Minimize or discard draping while acting as polite and relaxed as possible. They are suspicious of new faces. 80 at the door, double for more.
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5669735]The two Euros that work there are EMP veterans. They know the drill. Minimize or discard draping while acting as polite and relaxed as possible. They are suspicious of new faces. 80 at the door, double for more.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have been seeing Linda for years. Saw Veronica for the first time a few months ago also. What the original poster said he engaged in is a bit more than I have experienced there, so wanted to know a few more details. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Industrial;5671151]Yes, I have been seeing Linda for years. Saw Veronica for the first time a few months ago also. What the original poster said he engaged in is a bit more than I have experienced there, so wanted to know a few more details. Thanks.[/QUOTE]For V., you have to open your wallet a little wider for a nude session. Even then, I'm not convinced she'd ever offer FS.
I can't vouch for L., but I'm thinking it could've been the right mood, with the right person, in the right moment.
Does anyone know where Marta from Irenes is working now? I was told she doesn't work there anymore.
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5669735]The two Euros that work there are EMP veterans. They know the drill. Minimize or discard draping while acting as polite and relaxed as possible. They are suspicious of new faces. 80 at the door, double for more.[/QUOTE]How old are these veterans? 60's?
[QUOTE=ApplePiePussy;5671978]How old are these veterans? 60's?[/QUOTE]Linda is well into her 40's I don't know about V.
[QUOTE=Sully1234;5672189]Linda is well into her 40's I don't know about V.[/QUOTE]Similar for Veronica. I'd say somewhere in her 40's.
I'd love to hear all the juicy details behind this Yelp review from 07/21. It makes me wonder if the reviewer wasn't massage talent herself and has a beef with management:
[URL]https://www.yelp.com/biz/european-outcalls-massage-northbrook?utm_campaign=search_listing&utm_medium=partnership&utm_source=yahoo[/URL]
Wondering if these generic, templated EMP pages all lead back to that infamous blue-baller who still does massage in Park Ridge and Skokie. The Golf Road location on Google Maps looks familiar.
[URL]https://dianas-massage-therapy.business.site/[/URL]
[URL]https://diannas-massage-outcalls.business.site/[/URL]
[URL]https://diannasmassage.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5675562]I'd love to hear all the juicy details behind this Yelp review from 07/21. It makes me wonder if the reviewer wasn't massage talent herself and has a beef with management:
[URL]https://www.yelp.com/biz/european-outcalls-massage-northbrook?utm_campaign=search_listing&utm_medium=partnership&utm_source=yahoo[/URL]
Wondering if these generic, templated EMP pages all lead back to that infamous blue-baller who still does massage in Park Ridge and Skokie. The Golf Road location on Google Maps looks familiar.
[URL]https://dianas-massage-therapy.business.site/[/URL]
[URL]https://diannas-massage-outcalls.business.site/[/URL]
[URL]https://diannasmassage.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]I have heard of others saying she blue balls people. If you look on craigslist you will actually find her ad as well. I have not tempted to try her.
[QUOTE=DustyG;5677864]I have heard of others saying she blue balls people. If you look on craigslist you will actually find her ad as well. I have not tempted to try her.[/QUOTE]I unfortunately fell for her false ad over the summer. Read my post from 7/9/21 and the responses from others. I stupidly didn't get feedback from this forum before making a visit. She has been doing this same schtick for years apparently. Well, I learned my lesson.
[QUOTE=HeadsOfState;5635633]Don't really know how to sugar coat this, but from the pictures, Meghan looks rather. Masculine. If you catch my drift. Did you get a sense either way?[/QUOTE]I will admit, Meghan's pics aren't the best but I was pleasantly surprised. She is very pretty in person, has gorgeous long legs with a beautiful ass. As others have stated, she has small, perky A cups. I went for the edging and prostate massage. She also does a lot more in the dom world (ropes, pegging). She loves to talk dirty and is very easy to get along with. It is strictly a massage with L1 and whatever "L" you want to call her finger up your ass. She teased and kept me hard the whole time before I finally exploded. You can touch her body but her pussy is off limits, which by the way is fucking perfect. She has no problem sticking it near your face while she works her hands on your cock. Its a tease for sure but you know that going in. Safe neighborhood, nice apartment. I wanted to try something different then Asian massage / apartments and happy I did. $. 5 hhr. I will repeat and try more!
[QUOTE=YDiner14;5680469]I will admit, Meghan's pics aren't the best but I was pleasantly surprised. She is very pretty in person, has gorgeous long legs with a beautiful ass. As others have stated, she has small, perky A cups. I went for the edging and prostate massage. She also does a lot more in the dom world (ropes, pegging). She loves to talk dirty and is very easy to get along with. It is strictly a massage with L1 and whatever "L" you want to call her finger up your ass. She teased and kept me hard the whole time before I finally exploded. You can touch her body but her pussy is off limits, which by the way is fucking perfect. She has no problem sticking it near your face while she works her hands on your cock. Its a tease for sure but you know that going in. Safe neighborhood, nice apartment. I wanted to try something different then Asian massage / apartments and happy I did. $. 5 hhr. I will repeat and try more![/QUOTE]She definitely looks fine, but $250 L1 with just a smell of her pussy seems a bit high.
Damn, don't get my hopes up by refreshing this thread with anyone not Euro or Russian in nature. Take it to the general reports.
[QUOTE=Walker333;5680679]She definitely looks fine, but $250 L1 with just a smell of her pussy seems a bit high.[/QUOTE]There has been a fair amount written about here, some of it absurd but I don't recall anyone that actually saw her thought they were overcharged.
[QUOTE=Walker333;5680679]She definitely looks fine, but $250 L1 with just a smell of her pussy seems a bit high.[/QUOTE]I agree, that's why I did hhr for $150 - yes a bit high but as I said, was looking for something different and $150 was worth it for me.
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5681499]Damn, don't get my hopes up by refreshing this thread with anyone not Euro or Russian in nature. Take it to the general reports.[/QUOTE]Yep, sorry, I was wondering that as well after I submitted the report but for some reason there are several reports on her in this thread. Probably got off on a tangent and went off the rails. LOL.
Long time lurker and new to the city, so hoping to contribute more. I had first seen Meghan's ad and definitively interested me, but for the price, I would have preferred L2. Had completely forgotten about it until I came across this profile on SA [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8c7154c3-e2c6-43ef-9dbc-936122e68a4c[/URL] . Profile looked good and familiar, and it finally clicked that it was Meghan from the ad. At the bottom though, one of the seeking prompts that is selected is "Seeking trans-friendly". I am not trying to stir up the pot here because honestly to each their own, but given some of the questions that others have brought up I thought I would share since some would like to know.
[QUOTE=PapiToni20;5682683]Long time lurker and new to the city, so hoping to contribute more. I had first seen Meghan's ad and definitively interested me, but for the price, I would have preferred L2. Had completely forgotten about it until I came across this profile on SA [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8c7154c3-e2c6-43ef-9dbc-936122e68a4c[/URL] . Profile looked good and familiar, and it finally clicked that it was Meghan from the ad. At the bottom though, one of the seeking prompts that is selected is "Seeking trans-friendly". I am not trying to stir up the pot here because honestly to each their own, but given some of the questions that others have brought up I thought I would share since some would like to know.[/QUOTE]That might explain YDiner's comment that " her pussy is off limits. " Moreover, looking closely at her photos I noticed that her breast doesn't look right to me, considering her age.
[QUOTE=Walker333;5682855]That might explain YDiner's comment that " her pussy is off limits. " Moreover, looking closely at her photos I noticed that her breast doesn't look right to me, considering her age.[/QUOTE]I had brought this up a while back as her legs are closed in pretty much every photo. That being said, someone mentioned that she stuck it in their face and that it looked perfect. But maybe it looked too perfect.
[QUOTE=PapiToni20;5682683]Long time lurker and new to the city, so hoping to contribute more. I had first seen Meghan's ad and definitively interested me, but for the price, I would have preferred L2. Had completely forgotten about it until I came across this profile on SA [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8c7154c3-e2c6-43ef-9dbc-936122e68a4c[/URL] . Profile looked good and familiar, and it finally clicked that it was Meghan from the ad. At the bottom though, one of the seeking prompts that is selected is "Seeking trans-friendly". I am not trying to stir up the pot here because honestly to each their own, but given some of the questions that others have brought up I thought I would share since some would like to know.[/QUOTE]Why would you post this to a Euro massage thread? There's an arrangement thread for this stuff.
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5681499]Damn, don't get my hopes up by refreshing this thread with anyone not Euro or Russian in nature. Take it to the general reports.[/QUOTE]Dr is right. Lucky to have well; at least some.
Euro options in the area. Many cities only see those girls in movies. Euro massage or emp, also is really a combination of technique, seduction, with a lovely woman. This contrasted against euro motel hags where it is just about one thing, slight bit seedier, etc. For those reasons, should def keep this to just euro offerings of the massage type.
[QUOTE=PeteMusk;5684736]Dr is right. Lucky to have well; at least some.
Euro options in the area. Many cities only see those girls in movies. Euro massage or emp, also is really a combination of technique, seduction, with a lovely woman. This contrasted against euro motel hags where it is just about one thing, slight bit seedier, etc. For those reasons, should def keep this to just euro offerings of the massage type.[/QUOTE]I was browsing the Nevada threads. Another member out there was asking how he can find a Russian girl for service. Another member told him to travel to Chicago.
I've always liked the idea of having a safe and clean utr office to visit at my leisure for relaxation. When I originally asked the moderator to add this thread to the Chicago board a few years ago, I did it knowing that Euro massage parlors are a special niche all their own.
My first visit ever to the church did not go as planned. I booked appt and arrived one hour early because of poor timing on my part. I saw a few ladies get out of their expensive cars and looked promising. I headed downstairs about 10 min early and saw one lady talking to building contractor about basement renovation. The contractor said I hope not to offend but this basement looks like a dungeon. I agree, I expected more from a high net worth suburb. She asked me who I was seeing and I mentioned the place. She said someone should be arriving shortly. Well, shortly must mean one hour 15 min or more. While I waited in the outside area, I called one of the other places on that floor. I booked appt and thought, whoever arrives first Ill go with since I'm already here. Well the second appt arrived on time but shoot, I saw this girl before for outcall! She is not too attractive and one reason I visited the church was to experience something new. I exited quickly using a monger trick and did not return. By the way, the first lady I talked too had huge chest and was very nice. But since I've knew of the glove, no thanks. I pass. I will stick to my new Euro suburban place for euro ladies and visit some other Euros I am a client of. The church looks like 1970's decor in hallway. By the way, the contractor mentioned something that is common in basements if you have chipped lamanent / tiles in older buildings. On way back, I called another spa close to church but lady on phone sounded mean. I wont spend my dollar on mean.
[QUOTE=PeteMusk;5684736]Dr is right. Lucky to have well; at least some.
Euro options in the area. Many cities only see those girls in movies. Euro massage or emp, also is really a combination of technique, seduction, with a lovely woman. This contrasted against euro motel hags where it is just about one thing, slight bit seedier, etc. For those reasons, should def keep this to just euro offerings of the massage type.[/QUOTE]So I was thinking about this the other day. The only remaining EMP therapists are older and have been here a long time. There is no fresh young talent. They have all gone to the motel work. The motel work charges clients 160 hhr 200 hr. Out of that, the girls only keep 40 percent. So they are making 60 hhr 80 hr to give a crappy massage on a bed followed by an HJ. And the majority of them attempt to charge for simple upgrades like topless, nude, etc. They are trying to charge 40,100, etc. Crazy amounts for this. I'm sure some guys pay but most probably decline. But the reality is they would still rather work that job than the parlor. So the ultimate question is, what would you guys be willing to pay an hour for a younger Euro therapist to give a high quality massage with finish in a parlor? Because 70 with a 50 dollar tip is not going to cut it anymore. It probably needs to be 180 or 200 for them to even consider it.
[QUOTE=TheWimp;5687736]My first visit ever to the church did not go as planned. I booked appt and arrived one hour early because of poor timing on my part. I saw a few ladies get out of their expensive cars and looked promising. I headed downstairs about 10 min early and saw one lady talking to building contractor about basement renovation. The contractor said I hope not to offend but this basement looks like a dungeon. I agree, I expected more from a high net worth suburb. She asked me who I was seeing and I mentioned the place. She said someone should be arriving shortly. Well, shortly must mean one hour 15 min or more. While I waited in the outside area, I called one of the other places on that floor. I booked appt and thought, whoever arrives first Ill go with since I'm already here. Well the second appt arrived on time but shoot, I saw this girl before for outcall! She is not too attractive and one reason I visited the church was to experience something new. I exited quickly using a monger trick and did not return. By the way, the first lady I talked too had huge chest and was very nice. But since I've knew of the glove, no thanks. I pass. I will stick to my new Euro suburban place for euro ladies and visit some other Euros I am a client of. The church looks like 1970's decor in hallway. By the way, the contractor mentioned something that is common in basements if you have chipped lamanent / tiles in older buildings. On way back, I called another spa close to church but lady on phone sounded mean. I wont spend my dollar on mean.[/QUOTE]So, what is this "church" you speak of, and what suburban place with Euro ladies? Pickings are slim, would be nice to know vs trying to guess.
I was wondering the same.
[QUOTE=PeteMusk;5688883]So, what is this "church" you speak of, and what suburban place with Euro ladies? Pickings are slim, would be nice to know vs trying to guess.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PeteMusk;5688883]So, what is this "church" you speak of, and what suburban place with Euro ladies? Pickings are slim, would be nice to know vs trying to guess.[/QUOTE]I believe he is referring to the basement offices at Shermer and Church. I'm wondering which one of the therapists arrived eventually? If it was for Creative, Nat does have a wonderful rack, but she is not as young as she was when she started out. Irina down the hall would've provided a fantastic massage, but the chest is off-limits. I find that way more frustrating than the glove part. I'm also going to guess that he may have called either 7 H or Solar. Euros always sound irritable over the phone, haha.
I stay on the north side, although I hear things can be quite heavenly in the burbs...
[QUOTE=ApplePiePussy;5688685]So I was thinking about this the other day. The only remaining EMP therapists are older and have been here a long time. There is no fresh young talent. They have all gone to the motel work. The motel work charges clients 160 hhr 200 hr. Out of that, the girls only keep 40 percent. So they are making 60 hhr 80 hr to give a crappy massage on a bed followed by an HJ. And the majority of them attempt to charge for simple upgrades like topless, nude, etc. They are trying to charge 40,100, etc. Crazy amounts for this. I'm sure some guys pay but most probably decline. But the reality is they would still rather work that job than the parlor. So the ultimate question is, what would you guys be willing to pay an hour for a younger Euro therapist to give a high quality massage with finish in a parlor? Because 70 with a 50 dollar tip is not going to cut it anymore. It probably needs to be 180 or 200 for them to even consider it.[/QUOTE]Short answer for pretty young euro offering massage and HJ: 120 in street clothes. 140-160 in lingerie. Up to 200 full nude. But it depends. Doesn't matter to me if parlor, motel or apartment although I prefer parlor with massage table because beds are uncomfortable with my neck issues.
I don't get your math. If they are getting 80/ hr for standard finish at a motel then how is that any different from a parlor where they get 1/2 the house plus tip (so 40+40 also comes back to 80/ hr for basic service). Toss in tips for topless, roaming, nude, etc and the two seem pretty similar. It just seems to me the reason we can't find young hotties at the parlors if that they go motel / agency and provide full service for significantly higher tips than what they can get at a parlor where activities are restricted. How many girls are willing to jerk off a stranger and let him play with her tits but not do more?
There are so many things that can change the calculus. Really good massage vs ok massage. Really good looking vs just the beauty of youth for us older guys. Really good personality vs just ok. Really nice parlor / room / table vs just average. I went to a place in Dallas a long time ago where you could grab a beer or a whiskey and hang out watching tv before / after if you had time to kill. Real massage lotion vs baby oil. And of course nudity and roaming not to mention that quality of the HJ that can vary tremendously. I have no problem paying 200/ hr or more for a massage and HJ but I usually don't unless the boxes are all ticked, and chicago Emp's don't currently tick all the boxes.
Always looking for new ideas if anyone has suggestions. Zz.
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5689118]I believe he is referring to the basement offices at Shermer and Church. I'm wondering which one of the therapists arrived eventually? If it was for Creative, Nat does have a wonderful rack, but she is not as young as she was when she started out. Irina down the hall would've provided a fantastic massage, but the chest is off-limits. I find that way more frustrating than the glove part. I'm also going to guess that he may have called either 7 H or Solar. Euros always sound irritable over the phone, haha.
I stay on the north side, although I hear things can be quite heavenly in the burbs...[/QUOTE]Dr. Manhattan. You are correct about the location. Lana is the one who showed up. PM me if interested and I'll send you her link. Yes Solar was the one I called after bailing at the church. The lady sounded like a b-h. I expected more from Northbrook but the church ended up being meh.
I can afford apartment prices but prefer European Spa's and Independent European therapists. The success rate at any apartment is 100%. There is no challenge. I am not looking for FS. I know going to any apartment visit that I'm getting what I pay for. I only visited one Euro apartment on Belmont Ave and drew the tall Polish blonde with tattoo markings. There was no challenge and a lot of risk (by law and by disease). I prefer a spa or independent Euro because (for the new girls) I am not sure I will get my needs met. Its exciting to book appointment with someone new and figure out if it will happen at time of session. If it doesn't happen, I don't mind because at least I got rubbed by a semi attractive Euro. I've failed many times, most recently with a hot Euro who adverts on thumbtk. But it wasn't a waste because I ended up going out to lunch with her and met a nice person. Also, for me there is no art of seduction or trying to treat them differently. I'm there for a massage and something else. I'm not looking to marry or date casually. The European ladies are better looking than Latina's and AMP therapists. I would rather pay 140 total for massage and standard finish over 200 for FS at apartment because I'm not interested in FS at all. European Spas are the safest route to go for my mongering needs. Also. Experience mongers know that once they get their needs met with a therapist, its on to the next adventure. The therapists know this as well. I think the Euro scene is dead and nothing like the three or four years of Lisunia Spa existence. That place should be the benchmark of Euro spas. The owner has since moved on to the restaurant business and is a very successful wealthy man.
[QUOTE=TheWimp;5689347]I can afford apartment prices but prefer European Spa's and Independent European therapists. The success rate at any apartment is 100%. There is no challenge. I am not looking for FS. I know going to any apartment visit that I'm getting what I pay for. I only visited one Euro apartment on Belmont Ave and drew the tall Polish blonde with tattoo markings. There was no challenge and a lot of risk (by law and by disease). I prefer a spa or independent Euro because (for the new girls) I am not sure I will get my needs met. Its exciting to book appointment with someone new and figure out if it will happen at time of session. If it doesn't happen, I don't mind because at least I got rubbed by a semi attractive Euro. I've failed many times, most recently with a hot Euro who adverts on thumbtk. But it wasn't a waste because I ended up going out to lunch with her and met a nice person. Also, for me there is no art of seduction or trying to treat them differently. I'm there for a massage and something else. I'm not looking to marry or date casually. The European ladies are better looking than Latina's and AMP therapists. I would rather pay 140 total for massage and standard finish over 200 for FS at apartment because I'm not interested in FS at all. European Spas are the safest route to go for my mongering needs. Also. Experience mongers know that once they get their needs met with a therapist, its on to the next adventure. The therapists know this as well. I think the Euro scene is dead and nothing like the three or four years of Lisunia Spa existence. That place should be the benchmark of Euro spas. The owner has since moved on to the restaurant business and is a very successful wealthy man.[/QUOTE]Those were the days. Many years ago. Lisunia Spa existence North Harlem. Very tall gal can't remember name. Lithuanian I think.
[QUOTE=Gopher88;5689372]Those were the days. Many years ago. Lisunia Spa existence North Harlem. Very tall gal can't remember name. Lithuanian I think.[/QUOTE]Ivana (Ivonka). Polish. 5’10”. Now married to fellow non attractive European.
[QUOTE=PeteMusk;5688883]So, what is this "church" you speak of, and what suburban place with Euro ladies? Pickings are slim, would be nice to know vs trying to guess.[/QUOTE]Where abouts.
Some of you seem to be confused with my previous post. You seem to think that I am comparing Euro motel FS agencies like the 262, MA to EMPs like Maria's, Irene's, Solar, etc. That is incorrect and those are apples and oranges. My post regarding Euro motels was about the agency that is bringing attractive young Euro girls to Chicago who offer HJ only with some clothing upgrades like topless, nude etc. There is no FS available openly on the menu. I'm pretty sure I made this clear in my previous post. I think some of you have a mental association with FS and motels. Understand that before the 262 went FS, it was bodyrub only, along with 2 other agencies (530 and 773) and the draw was the challenge of getting more. After a few visits, the menu would open up for many of these girls and it didn't always come with a price tag. But that is a discussion for another day.
The current Euro non-FS massage market is bifurcated. There is nobody under 45 doing parlor work. It's just that simple. Most are a 6 or lower in looks. Many are overweight. If visiting these women is a challenge to you, by all means enjoy it. I am simply asking what you would be willing to pay to have the same time of service but with a 25 to 35 year old instead of a 45 to 65 year old. Because the current rates are not attracting that type of talent. And in 5 to 10 years time, simply based on the current age of the women working, the market will have completely disappeared due to retirement.
Meanwhile we have a steady supply of younger talent working the motels who are not making a ton of money unless guys tip them to take their clothes off. But of course, they are not expected to give a quality massage, so the toll on their bodies is less at the end of the day. I'm sure there is a sweet spot price that would make at least some of them want to work the parlors.