Agree wholeheartedly, but.
[QUOTE=JellyJam;6339812]Not only can they lie, they do it a lot in order to charge someone. They're allowed to lie and you are not. Being that the rules of the game are unfair, don't play. Never talk to police and don't answer questions. Immediately ask for a lawyer if detained or arrested.... [/QUOTE]Very good advice, and for the reason you stated, "police are allowed to lie in the course of and investigation or interrogation to gain evidence of a crime. " I learned this from an attorney regarding another topic who was teaching a class on Virginia gun laws in self defense claims. He preached this and pointed out the importance of saying clear and concise that you wish to exercise your 5th Amendment rights and not answer any questions without an attorney.
But. The thread started based on entrapment situations. Can law enforcement create a scenario for people to break the law and deny being law enforcement then arrest the person for committing the crime they created opportunity to commit? This question will take the clarification of an attorney to gain an accurate answer.
Does advertising constitute asking?
[QUOTE=JellyJam;6341675]. That's entrapment because they essentially goated/ berated you into doing something illegal.
In general them asking you to do something illegal and you doing it means you're busted.
But the more they have to ask the harder it will be to convict you. That's why they try to get the target to say as much as possible with as little or as vague asking as possible.
Like previously mentioned the rules of the game are not fair. So don't play. 5th amendment.[/QUOTE]So would them advertising the business, especially many ads, then once there asking or offering to do more than legitimate massage be the same as gating one to indulge in behaviour, and therefore be entrapment?
Asking mainly because why do providers and some mongers, ask if the other is law enforcement if it doesn't protect them from entrapment?
Re: Why do they ask if someone is law enforcement?
[QUOTE]Asking mainly because why do providers and some mongers, ask if the other is law enforcement if it doesn't protect them from entrapment?[/QUOTE]They ask because they are under the false impression that it protects them from entrapment. It's basically an old wives tale that's been around for a long time. I think cops can even lie to you and say that they have eye witnesses ready to testify against you and you may as well confess, but the reality is that they have no witness at all. Then once you've confessed, it's too late.
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[QUOTE=JellyJam;6345277]Once again not a lawyer, but I don't think that would be entrapment because they're not specifically targeting any one person. Also, real providers also continuously post ads so compared to the normal course of events for things it's not really out of the norm.
I have no idea if this is true but I did hear somewhere that they're not allowed to quote prices they have to make you say the price. But I have not been able to verify that.
In general they have a stronger case the more they get their target to explicitly describe the terms and and prices for services to be rendered. And it's exactly right that it's essentially an old wives tale that somehow gained traction as being generally accepted at true when it is not. Tv shows and movies always do this.
They can lie and make things up all the time. Cops standard operating procedure is lying to judges to get warrants on a daily basis.[/QUOTE]Stay polite. Don't be a Richard to 50. The G0 verment can punish you by process. Referred as "Punishment by Process".
It's 50 job to make the arrest and the Judge applies the law.
