Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit

[QUOTE=ChampagneDaddy;3974943]Who cares if it's 100 for someone hot like geez don't be a cheap bastard trying to nickel and dime in the monger game.[/QUOTE]Much of it is perception. What one guy views as a dude being a cheap skate, another guy will view him as a master negotiator. If a guy can be too cheap, another can supposedly be too extravagant for the same provider. If a provider takes the perceived low-ball offer, it's just as much her fault for taking it as it is for the guy for suggesting it (perhaps they can take it to the Ho Union). It also follows that she doesn't have to service a guy just because he has the cost of entry, so it's the independent provider's business to manage as she chooses. SA has spoiled me on the rate situation since I've been able to get more bang for each entertainment buck that I ever could have imagined.

Who Cares (about the rate for a hot gal)? Well, the provider should. If her Requested Rate is outside the average for an area for similar gals, she needs to adjust accordingly. We don't all pay the same to the same providers and way too many factors go into that. Some mongers are getting for next to free what some are forking over 200/ hour for GFE MSOG fun, so it just matters what it's worth to you. Some dudes getting it for free would still try to talk the gals down from that (it's in that monger's negotiating DNA). The difference between her Requested Rate and her Accepted Rate varies significantly, but the gals who consistently take lower than market rates inadvertently hurt the business of other providers in the area (forcing them to adjust as well). It's all part of the process.

The ladies share information just as much as us mongers do (recent legislation has hampered their ability to share info though). They know who the arseholes are and all of us get a sense of the dudes with arsehole proclivities just by reading the forums.

If you look at all of the options available, it's just as easy for me to issue a hard pass instead of negotiating them down. I personally don't negotiate, her rate is her rate, and "No thanks" is a powerful complete sentence. It's a better method for me to merely keep it moving and try to refrain from admonishing a guy for being "too cheap" or another for "contributing to her GPS" since that's all about his pockets. I believe in tipping well for exceptional service though. Like many of you, I still strive to treat the ladies with respect and try to help them maintain a sense of dignity even when renting them by the hour.

I'm sure that what I have said is full of contradictions and hypocritical nuances, but the this game is built like that too. Determine what it's worth to you and proceed accordingly whether it's the minimum, maximum, or at your happy medium.

Happy hunting,

Milfman.

Observing the xxx buzz. A lot of dudes connecting with gals operating out of a notel room from SA without having to spring for an SA membership. Wondering if she's servicing dudes simply because they got the digits from who knows where and have the cost of admission as the vetting process. A history of guys mentioning various demons being at play with the provider. Makes one wonder if dudes are passing by each other coming and going. Could it be like a drive through lined up at the room; perhaps a line of cars queued up at that notel like rush hour traffic? It'd be hard for that not to garner some unwanted attention.

Monger confidently,

Milfman.

So after many many years as a monger last year I met someone on SA and we've been together since.

That said even though I don't play at all anymore I still lurk. While I do I see fellow mongers doing the same things over and over again.

Here is a small list of things that you can easily employ to save heartache.

1. don't think with your little head or your heart, she'll get you everytime.

2. If she's blowing up your phone, block her.

3. Never pay more than an agreed upon price. If you have $40 set aside spend that and nothing more.

4. Keep in mind someone else is taking those pics she posts, be careful on incalls.

5. Communicate with each other on this site, don't fight. It's set up for mongers not us.

6. They need us more than them. Mongers can control the market pricing if you stick together against GPS!

7. don't white knight! You are not her BF, handler, pimp, etc. She's a big girl and can speak for herself, and when you do this it means you let your heart in and that's a no no.

Jim.

Today was a total bust. I had prospects with 3 different girls off Seeking that I postponed for one girl that kind of stood out. She bailed so I was scrambling for backup. Nothing pans out. I had about 10 strikeouts before I called it quits.

Sometimes a dude has to be Captain Obvious instead of Captain Save-a-Ho. Ladies. ,. , if you have active warrants or are a bonafide Fugitive from Justice, it isn't a genius series of moments to put full-blown face pics on SA, SkipTheGames, or anywhere else you are trying to sell your pu.$$.y. Check the list, Initials DFD, for 08-NOV-2018. Idiotic. You know that there are actually volunteers who would agree for a meet-and-greet with you in a public place, make a positive ID, then remove themselves from the situation and summon LEO to take care of the rest. Those dudes feel like they are truly performing a public service. The creator of SA already said that he'd turn over any info on SA members (e.g., names, payments used, IP addresses, etc.) to LEO whether a warrant is issued or not since that's his public service to help fight trafficking; you don't a reason to think that he's kidding.

Press pay for play every day,. ,.

Milfman.

I know this is a site geared towards the hobby, but I'm sure plenty of you have dabbled in dating apps at some point. I've had some success with Tinder and Plenty of Fish with cilivilans, but I'm curious if eHarmony or Match will be any better for random play.

[QUOTE=TrippinTB;4028835]Sharky, I don't know which lady on USAAC you are referring to, but I can state I'm not the guy she's referring to. I will say that I consider anything these ladies say with a healthy degree of skepticism. Many lie or embellish the truth to garner sympathy (which they often try to use to get you to give them more cash). Not sure if that's the case here.

So, the bottom line is to understand your agreement and for both parties to live up to it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBudda;4028595]If you would care to share more about the cat that pulled this stunt by pm I will make sure to watch for any request from them in the future.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sharky2;4028383]It's come to my attention when I saw a provider from usaac she tells me another monger here is trying to wheel and deal with her on price after the deal is done, the way I see it is if you agree to an hr, then pay the cost, don't try to short change the girl cause you can't last the full hour then.
[/QUOTE]It is definitely worth noting that Sharky is merely a messenger relaying what the provider claimed. Seems like "Ho Drama" and as TTB mentioned, it should be taken with a grain of salt since there are two sides to the story. Everyone doesn't pay the same rate to the same providers and providers take liberties with some mongers that they don't with others. If a guy pays for 1 hour, he should get that. ,. ,. , period. ,. , even if he just sits around and watches TV after his deed is done. She should have handled that with the monger herself instead of trying to solicit favor from a monger who had nothing to do with it. If the situation dealt with her being roughed up or something like that, I can understand saying something to a degree, but since it involved her money. ,. ,. , 0 f*cks should be given to that (likely met with "IDGAF about the money between a Ho and another monger"). Eh, seems like a provider that should be avoided to me. To the monger that did that .,., you should have worked that out beforehand brother or simply charge it to the game (being shorted time is poor customer service on her part, so just don't revisit).

The provider is a big girl trying to run a big girl business, so she should put on her big girl panties and handle said business like a professional. Just let the "Ho Drama" stay with the Ho's.

Press pay for play every day. ,.

Milfman.

Personally I don't talk to providers about other mongers or providers business and when a provider tries it, I change the subject. Unless it's something really serious that could affect us all, it's best to stay out it if you weren't there.

[QUOTE=TheLoad2;4029608]Personally I don't talk to providers about other mongers or providers business and when a provider tries it, I change the subject. Unless it's something really serious that could affect us all, it's best to stay out it if you weren't there.[/QUOTE]When ever a provider wants to talk about this site or another monger. I change the subject and most of the time that is the last time I see that provider.

To many other women that know their role and how to perform without the drama. But it still amazes me on how many members want to talk about this site to these girls. Please don't tell me your that dull that you feel the need to talk about this site and its members when you have a naked willing woman in front of you.

This has always been a problem but seems to be more so since SA has been on the rise. Different type of monger I guess.

[QUOTE=Skboy;4029752]When ever a provider wants to talk about this site or another monger. I change the subject and most of the time that is the last time I see that provider [/QUOTE]Yep, if theyre talking about the other guys to you they are also talking to the others about you.

Never let the girls know anything personal about yourself.

Recently I stumbled on a provider that I enjoyed in a dream. After the dream was over she proposed the idea that I could be a regular. She said she just wanted a few regulars and that was it. I thought it usually worked the other way. If a monger enjoyed the dream with her more than others he would just become a regular if he chose and she didn't refuse him. What are the thoughts of the group. Have other providers tried to get you as a regular? How did it work out?

As a regular, I enjoy a lower hourly rate. The frequency picks up. It's easier to come up with, say 200 rather than 300. More pussy for me. More money for her.

[QUOTE=Winston1984;4041993]Recently I stumbled on a provider that I enjoyed in a dream. After the dream was over she proposed the idea that I could be a regular. She said she just wanted a few regulars and that was it. I thought it usually worked the other way. If a monger enjoyed the dream with her more than others he would just become a regular if he chose and she didn't refuse him. What are the thoughts of the group. Have other providers tried to get you as a regular? How did it work out?[/QUOTE]

Hey guys, not sure if this is the correct forum, but I am looking for advice. Need a somewhat decent hotel preferably out West, or even something closer to Broadway.

I have a friend coming from out of state to visit family and I'm looking to book just one night, cash would be ideal but not required. Nothing too fancy but no roach motel either.

Thanks.

This post was originally posted by RockChild in the USAAC thread but I wanted to move it here so the rest of the board can openly comment in the appropriate location. Normally I would leave a lame ass post alone but this one is really over the top and I just have to add my two cents.

This guy must be a millennial. He wants to sit in his chair and watch porn and get spoon fed the info on who to see and why. Not only does he want recommendations, he wants an essay outlining the pros/cons and coaching him along the way.

This board is all about helping each other out but you need to help yourself first and let us know about your experience. There will be good times and bad times but that's just the nature of this game and life in general. To ask the rest of us us to coddle and coach you without lifting a figure is just plane lazy and cowardly. Grow a back bone and go into the big scary world and find your own way.

The way I see it, this guy has two options:

A) Go climb back under the rock you came from and never open your mouth again, or
B) Go find some pussy and report back to the rest of us on how it went.

Maybe you should go see this one, she'll help you open your eyes real quick:

[URL]http://knoxville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/you-should-come-dip-your-hand/383608258208[/URL]

To the rest of the board: stay safe and be cool.

[QUOTE=RockChild;4047463]So I just got out of a long relationship that ended in hell! Trying to move my mind forward and Mr. Happy up! I want to play and have some (FUN for a change "Head and Tales" games)! Also my ex was smoking hot. Like literally she did modeling gigs and photo shoots on the side. The only reason that I bring this up is that I really need a decently sexy chick or I just won't get turned on. I know that this is Knoxville, but I really need the best that we've got guys. Please! I've read my fellow brother mongers reviews of many lovely ladies and right now (on Sunday 12/02 in the early am) I would greatly appreciate some some unbiased advise from my USA monger brethren for a fellow newbie monger who is pulling the gun on USA for the very first time and really wants this to be a great experience. What I'm looking for is firstly good looks all around. Looking for a young hottie spinner type that's just straight up hot. But hey I love women in general "period" as long as they are sexy. Also I'm just as into women with curves in the right places (thick but no fatties at all. I just can't get turned on at all by a fatty. Also if a chick has severe baby damage please note. "Sorry if that offends any ladies, but I like what I like. " I am most definitely an ass man. That's what I mean by thick and curvy. I'm a sucker for a bomb ass with a tiny waist.) I prefer younger chicks, but can do a little older like 30's, but that's it. Just as long as she's truly sexy I don't discriminate! So on the ads board and from what I've read from other mongers "out of these chicks that I'm going to list" plus any personal favorites that are available tonight, but not on the board (if that's the case and she's not on the board tonight please pm me her number) who would you personally recommend? Also if you would, please please list pros and cons. Obviously we all want hotties, but that doesn't mean shit and it's really not that fun if she's got other issues going on. I just really want to have an unrushed good time, with good conversation and good vibe with a hottie who's having fun! Now I wouldn't mind just playing a head game for a deal as long as her face is sexy. Actually that sounds really good for tonight! On the other hand I'm not cheap either when it comes to true quality. I will pay for a quality dream, but it's really got to be top quality if I'm really spending or I'll just turn around and go home. So I'm sincerely asking my fellow monger brethren in your humble opinion out of all of the lovely ladies that are active right now tonight, which dream in your humble opinion would be the best dream that I could have? I'm an ass man at heart, but she can't be fat. I just love curves, but I definitely love thin also so long as she's fit and this goes without saying any candidate has to be sexy, and also I'm absolutely a sucker for a chick that's great at head games. I would love a dream where she can take it all in and I mean every bit of it in her mouth without any problems doing it for long periods of time. Any and all advice would be very much appreciated! Thank You my fellow Monger Brethren!

Rockchild!

List of potential candidates on the board tonight!

Charlie. The picture of that ass! Ohh!

Country. The reviews have been great, but I can't see her whole face.

Funandkinky69 - this chick looks really fit! Mmm!

Sugarbabybri. Looks really sexy, but I had read some negative reviews a few days back about "possible boyfriend" and or other people around! That's a problem for me!

Middlebrook Amber. She's not on the board tonight, but I've read some really good reviews in the past, but read a negative review today like she started acting different from normal or something. I don't know. Please advise![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RockChild;4047463]So I just got out of a long relationship that ended in hell! Trying to move my mind forward and Mr. Happy up! I want to play and have some (FUN for a change "Head and Tales" games)!. <snip>Please advise![/QUOTE]I'm delighted to advise .,., RTFF until you reach the end, join and play on some alternative lifestyle dating sites like Tinder, SeekingArrangement, WhatsYourPrice, and SecretBenefits, then come back with something to contribute. You could get eaten alive in this game. You likely offended some exceptional providers with your myopic diatribe. It actually feels good to relish in the fruits of your labors with something that you have actually earned. , , give it a try for once with information. ,. , you'll get a kick out of it. I'll give you a pass for being so butt hurt over losing your hot gal, but you definitely came out the gate the wrong way.

Press pay for play every day ,. ,

Milfman.