The Rat Trap

[QUOTE=Grain56;5513858]My Tin Foil Hat Has Small Satellite Dishes Attached.

BB, granted, things change and those that jump back in are usually welcomed with open arms based on their past posts blended with their current contributions. Some fade in and out of the woodwork for various reasons as mentioned. What Trigg7272 said is good advice, check the posting history and make a call on that.

BUT with a lunatic out there hurting girls, everyone should be on alert to whom they give info to. That's good sense, not paranoia / conspiracy based and the main point of my throwing caution.

The names that were argumentative in the past and jump in after 2 years to argue again or support a low integrity / argumentative member (usually supporting the same member each time) then vanish back into obscurity are also more what I was also posting about to watch out for. The MHMP (Mulit-Handle, Multi-Persona) members remind me of Roger the Alien on American Dad, always has the right person available to step in when needed.

Adding on, one of these well-preserved long-stored away screen names from the past that are DM'ing members asking for Provider intel could be a clandestine alias of the culprit hurting providers. That IS Tin Foil Hat stuff BUT I'd rather be safe than sorry for the providers' sake.

I Pay You, your point is spot on as well that circumstances change and screen names are sometimes abandoned. Many that experience that usually start their new life on the Forum mentioning their past name to help gain some instant creds, unless they are wanted by or are under scrutiny by the FBI (Female Board Investigators, LOL) but the fact is that there are also a number of current screen names that ARE some of those "well known" members from that same era you mention using new names today and have entire battalions set up.

I posted my initial post to heed caution with whom you share info with if you don't do some background work to help protect the Providers safety.

Grain 56.



I think we ALL want to protect the Providers without a doubt.[/QUOTE]Thank you sir for all your knowledge and informative and sometimes very funny post. Duggic, you and I seem to have the same taste and views. Keep up the good work my friend.

From the Positive Review Thread.

[QUOTE=BeetRan;5520646]I know this is weird but can anyone recommend me any providers that BBBJ and GFE (no candy issue would be great) that are as close to brandon as possible? It is quite hard to find a good provider in my area.

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]BeetRan, you have 35 posts total and if my math is correct you have ONE single review of a provider that you admittedly said there are already a lot of reviews of her. In fact, there are so many, I could write a review about her and I've never even heard of her.

You other 34 posts are ASKS for information, mostly in Tampa. I am guessing you decided to hop onto the Orlando Threads since no one in Tampa is really helping you any more since you don't contribute over there. The Forum is a two way street and if you expect lots of help, you need to contribute to the board more than just ask, ask, ask.

Your post ASKING for information (posted in a Positive REVIEW Thread, BTW) is basically asking for one of the Orlando Members to send you the digits of an Enchanted Unicorn flying on Pegasus' back with a Leprechaun riding along, throwing Coins at you from the Pot of Gold he is holding to come to Valrico with a clean sexual dynamo to service you. A pretty big stretch if you ask me.

I will suggest that you take some of the information you've been given in the Tampa area and actually SEE some of these girls and report on them. Maybe you'll have to actually leave Valrico to date some of the girls since Valrico isn't exactly a hot spot for WG's that I know of anyway.

Good Luck.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=Grain56;5520851]From the Positive Review Thread.

BeetRan, you have 35 posts total and if my math is correct you have ONE single review of a provider that you admittedly said there are already a lot of reviews of her. In fact, there are so many, I could write a review about her and I've never even heard of her.

You other 34 posts are ASKS for information, mostly in Tampa. I am guessing you decided to hop onto the Orlando Threads since no one in Tampa is really helping you any more since you don't contribute over there. The Forum is a two way street and if you expect lots of help, you need to contribute to the board more than just ask, ask, ask.

Your post ASKING for information (posted in a Positive REVIEW Thread, BTW) is basically asking for one of the Orlando Members to send you the digits of an Enchanted Unicorn flying on Pegasus' back with a Leprechaun riding along, throwing Coins at you from the Pot of Gold he is holding to come to Valrico with a clean sexual dynamo to service you. A pretty big stretch if you ask me.

I will suggest that you take some of the information you've been given in the Tampa area and actually SEE some of these girls and report on them. Maybe you'll have to actually leave Valrico to date some of the girls since Valrico isn't exactly a hot spot for WG's that I know of anyway.

Good Luck.

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]Thank you for taking the time for calling out on these members who provide very little, mainly asking and not giving much. Plus asking on the wrong thread! I appreciate what you are doing!

RP.

Layla, Stormy and now Rae. If you have accomplished to see all three, you are pretty fucking good! But your posts seem to be very generalized and available information. These are the top three girls we have here in Central Florida right now. My advise is to do a more detail post next time. I just want to make sure you are not making anything up and actually did see these girls. If you did, you are awesome! Now I know Layla very well and I like her allot. She has awesome performance. But there is something very unique and special about Layla. So can you tell me a few things about her like what does she wear when she opens the door, how long were you with her and what does she like to do. Also, can you provide me the last 4 digits of her direct number she gives after finishing a date? ONLY the last 4 digits. I don't want anyone else to have that number. Only Layla can give those digits out.

RP.

[QUOTE=ChrisXr;5519707]Great post mate. Agreeing with most of what you said. We should avoid bringing up information about each other. I understand this thread is meant to deal with petty disagreements and shit posting. However, we have to define a fine line between these junkies and the few gentlemen and johns.

I completely understand the reasoning for the Gatekeepers wanting to distance themselves from the others. The false illusion they share about keeping their fiendish-looking SW away from the general masses makes sense. I don't post about every encounter with these crackwhores and don't plan on changing it to please these "Gatekeepers🤡.

For the boomers, simps, and narcissists. I'm going to keep focusing on what I've been doing. I'm here to read up on the good, bad, and the unknown of this hobby. Just mentioning personal information about others trying to enjoy this hobby shouldn't be brought up. If you got issues with me, I don't fucking give a fuck. I'm here for the bitches, not you.[/QUOTE]It's all good, man. I agree; thus, why I didn't post any further information nor the photo of RP469. It wasn't something that I was actually looking for, but another member felt that I should have it privately. Turns out, he apparently rubs someone else the wrong way. Might be the reason as to why his main forte is easier street targets & not top-shelf tail. Small people embellish small things. At this point, I'd rather have that old guy that posts long tangent reviews with YouTube links than RPs odd garbage posts. He's trying too hard to force himself as viewed as some form of rolodex for prime real estate, but he's basically just trying to be a bouncer in front of a McDonalds. LOL.

[QUOTE=ChaseL;5524423]It's all good, man. I agree; thus, why I didn't post any further information nor the photo of RP469. It wasn't something that I was actually looking for, but another member felt that I should have it privately. Turns out, he apparently rubs someone else the wrong way. Might be the reason as to why his main forte is easier street targets & not top-shelf tail. Small people embellish small things. At this point, I'd rather have that old guy that posts long tangent reviews with YouTube links than RPs odd garbage posts. He's trying too hard to force himself as viewed as some form of rolodex for prime real estate, but he's basically just trying to be a bouncer in front of a McDonalds. LOL.[/QUOTE]ChrisXr, do you really support ChaseL's replies. He has only one post about Sabrina, may she RIP, and all the rest are replies. Practically every single one of them is worthless information. Now ChrisXr, I have seen your posts and you have been giving. That is why I have been providing you digits. If you want to support his so called "Supplementary Information", so be it. But before you do, I would read them. ChaseL provides worthless information. No worries, you have both made my avoid list. Oh, BTW ChaseL, Christina's digits have been down all this week. So you couldn't have contacted her by those digits. Your post on the SW thread is very generalized. Prove to me you actually saw her. She's not camera shy at all. So where are the pics? You are right when you said that you are not a begger, more like a cry baby who didn't get digits.

RP.

In reply from his earlier posts:

[QUOTE=Grain56;5516675]Dude, you seem to be luckier than a fat man at a buffet on Pork Chop night. Wow! Practically a civi AA girl in Maitland offering BBCIA for a pair of Jacks. Are you sure it wasn't Willow? Maybe the near-midnight MP girl?

Grain 56.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=OtwonPro;5517802]LOL that was funny AF. Man I don't know what happen to Willow. She headed back to Tampa and I never heard from her again. Oh well.

Yes you are absolutely correct. I got extremely lucky. I picked her up literally one block away from my place. Which is where we went.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=OtwonPro;5530945]Hey just to clear some things up. First I am not "demanding" anything, If someone wants to trade then cool. However after reading my own post back to myself, I guess I did sound kind of cocky hahaha. I am fully aware she has some ads up, as she did tell me she did, but I wasn't sure on which ones. As I said. I am not that active and trading with some of the other guys seems more appealing to me. Anyway. Ya'll enjoy your night.[/QUOTE]I guess I am going to have to start following this guy around Maitland. He gets all the girls he sees walking around on the streets to preform BBCI all holes for Fire Sale Pricing plus gets AMPs to stay open extra hours for him too. Like I said earlier, he must be the luckiest man in Orlando.

Now he wants to broker openly advertising girls phone numbers in exchange for your Top Secret, cream of the crop girls digits. Oh, plus it's non-negotiable. LOL. I do agree with the Forum member that says not all shared digits need to be shared only with Senior Members, but when a new member comes out of the gate like a madman on a rocket sled, it doesn't help his creds.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=Grain56;5531733]In reply from his earlier posts:

I guess I am going to have to start following this guy around Maitland. He gets all the girls he sees walking around on the streets to preform BBCI all holes for Fire Sale Pricing plus gets AMPs to stay open extra hours for him too. Like I said earlier, he must be the luckiest man in Orlando.

Now he wants to broker openly advertising girls phone numbers in exchange for your Top Secret, cream of the crop girls digits. Oh, plus it's non-negotiable. LOL. I do agree with the Forum member that says not all shared digits need to be shared only with Senior Members, but when a new member comes out of the gate like a madman on a rocket sled, it doesn't help his creds.

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]That's funny.

[QUOTE=Grain56;5531733]In reply from his earlier posts:

I guess I am going to have to start following this guy around Maitland. He gets all the girls he sees walking around on the streets to preform BBCI all holes for Fire Sale Pricing plus gets AMPs to stay open extra hours for him too. Like I said earlier, he must be the luckiest man in Orlando.

Now he wants to broker openly advertising girls phone numbers in exchange for your Top Secret, cream of the crop girls digits. Oh, plus it's non-negotiable. LOL. I do agree with the Forum member that says not all shared digits need to be shared only with Senior Members, but when a new member comes out of the gate like a madman on a rocket sled, it doesn't help his creds.

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]OMG I just pictured this in my mind.

[URL]https://youtu.be/tsqDQkl4QxA[/URL]

[QUOTE=NightAudit;5533113]OMG I just pictured this in my mind.

[URL]https://youtu.be/tsqDQkl4QxA[/URL][/QUOTE]When I saw there was a link attached to your post, I though that maybe his experiences reminded you of a song. LOL.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=Grain56;5531733]In reply from his earlier posts:

I guess I am going to have to start following this guy around Maitland. He gets all the girls he sees walking around on the streets to preform BBCI all holes for Fire Sale Pricing plus gets AMPs to stay open extra hours for him too. Like I said earlier, he must be the luckiest man in Orlando.

Now he wants to broker openly advertising girls phone numbers in exchange for your Top Secret, cream of the crop girls digits. Oh, plus it's non-negotiable. LOL. I do agree with the Forum member that says not all shared digits need to be shared only with Senior Members, but when a new member comes out of the gate like a madman on a rocket sled, it doesn't help his creds.

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]I never got any AMP's to stay open later for me. Where did you hear that?

So I am going to say this with complete honesty. I walked into a wall like an idiot on my original post. So I would like to send out my apologies, especially to the senior members.

Obviously I wasn't thinking in the most functional manner when I made that post. I am usually better than that. I enjoy the mongering like everyone else.

I suppose my thinking was that I already established a certain amount of "cred" managing strip clubs for the last 25 years (including one here locally) and somehow that automatically.

Translates over to the board, LOL. Clearly it does not.

Sorry guys, Ill do better.

[QUOTE=OtwonPro;5533846]I never got any AMP's to stay open later for me. Where did you hear that?

So I am going to say this with complete honesty. I walked into a wall like an idiot on my original post. So I would like to send out my apologies, especially to the senior members.

Obviously I wasn't thinking in the most functional manner when I made that post. I am usually better than that. I enjoy the mongering like everyone else.

I suppose my thinking was that I already established a certain amount of "cred" managing strip clubs for the last 25 years (including one here locally) and somehow that automatically.

Translates over to the board, LOL. Clearly it does not.

Sorry guys, Ill do better.[/QUOTE]From a member that's had to eat some crow for stupid shit that I posted, I applaud you for what you did. Sometimes you just have to man up and apologize when you screw up. Keep giving info and you will get your cred. My. 02.

[QUOTE=Vino7373;5534116]From a member that's had to eat some crow for stupid shit that I posted, I applaud you for what you did. Sometimes you just have to man up and apologize when you screw up. Keep giving info and you will get your cred. My. 02.[/QUOTE]I agree Vino, spot on as usual. We've all made stupid posts. It's not at all a lost cause for the new Member. Another recently new to the Board member comes to my mind that started off the same way a short bit back. They took some advice and started posting really helpful posts that helped gain some creds. A second one I can think of unfortunately didn't work out as well for them though as they came on announcing to the Board that they have a new screen name therefore deserved instant creds because of their past posts under their old name, which they gave out in the post. Usually this would help, but when you read the old posts on that old screen name, this dude didn't contribute with that name at all and was famous for asking for info without providing any value in return, so him getting help was (and still is somewhat) strained.

Too many times new-to-post members (most are not always new to mongering) forget that the Board as a whole can't see your storied past (good or bad) prior to your first posts. We have to see how you meld in here over some time. The way they come on and "speak" makes all the difference. A new member might be a great guy and also might be a real Dick-weed. The Board Members have to determine that based on the posts they make and the manner in which they conduct themselves. Not saying a new Member should walk on pins and needles or that it's not OK to have some swagger at times, but info is generally free for those that read and contribute.

Girls that sometime we think are new to the game or are new, exclusive finds are actually long time providers that others probably know well. I thought I found new girls several times only to realize they were yesterday's news 9 out of 10 times. When you actually find that elusive provider that doesn't advertise and have something special, the UTR Thread is there to share your experiences with those girls. On there, you can be a gatekeeper so-to-speak and filter mongers before you share info. I will say this though, if you do ever find that UTR gem, your filtering needs to be a lot more stringent than simply saying if you give me a hidden provider's number, I will give you my hidden provider's number. That's where the creds you build over time shows what type of person you are. Careful filtering also helps protect the girls from possible harm or even turns off the UTR from the business altogether.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=Grain56;5534223]I agree Vino, spot on as usual. We've all made stupid posts. It's not at all a lost cause for the new Member. Another recently new to the Board member comes to my mind that started off the same way a short bit back. They took some advice and started posting really helpful posts that helped gain some creds. A second one I can think of unfortunately didn't work out as well for them though as they came on announcing to the Board that they have a new screen name therefore deserved instant creds because of their past posts under their old name, which they gave out in the post. Usually this would help, but when you read the old posts on that old screen name, this dude didn't contribute with that name at all and was famous for asking for info without providing any value in return, so him getting help was (and still is somewhat) strained.

Too many times new-to-post members (most are not always new to mongering) forget that the Board as a whole can't see your storied past (good or bad) prior to your first posts. We have to see how you meld in here over some time. The way they come on and "speak" makes all the difference. A new member might be a great guy and also might be a real Dick-weed. The Board Members have to determine that based on the posts they make and the manner in which they conduct themselves. Not saying a new Member should walk on pins and needles or that it's not OK to have some swagger at times, but info is generally free for those that read and contribute.

Girls that sometime we think are new to the game or are new, exclusive finds are actually long time providers that others probably know well. I thought I found new girls several times only to realize they were yesterday's news 9 out of 10 times. When you actually find that elusive provider that doesn't advertise and have something special, the UTR Thread is there to share your experiences with those girls. On there, you can be a gatekeeper so-to-speak and filter mongers before you share info. I will say this though, if you do ever find that UTR gem, your filtering needs to be a lot more stringent than simply saying if you give me a hidden provider's number, I will give you my hidden provider's number. That's where the creds you build over time shows what type of person you are. Careful filtering also helps protect the girls from possible harm or even turns off the UTR from the business altogether.

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]The last part about the UTR's and even some not UTR's leaving the biz because of lowlife scummers really hits home. I've seen so many girls that were amazing that just couldn't take it anymore and quit. It's not even from boinking weird guys, either. The number one complaint was No Calls, No Shows. I spelled it out to make sure that guys' see it and know what I'm talking about. So many of these girls have guy's that make a date and then don't even have the common courtesy to contact the girl to cancel. Some of the girls have to come up with coin for a motel room, then make three or four dates, only to have all of them flake out. Hate to say it, but USASG guy's are notorious for it.

If you can't make a dream with a girl, call or text her to let her know. Also, don't make the date if you are unsure if you can make it there on time. Pretty simple. Yes, we all have lives, jobs, SO's, etc but just take ten seconds to send a text. My. 02.

I remember feeling froggy getting an incall one time and she got stood up by every one except me who urged her to get one. She was so frustrated and swore to never due it again. I think she didn't lose money but she wasted a bunch of time. Can't treat people like that.

We have to do better!

Stay safe and have fun!

[QUOTE=Vino7373;5534507]The last part about the UTR's and even some not UTR's leaving the biz because of lowlife scummers really hits home. I've seen so many girls that were amazing that just couldn't take it anymore and quit. It's not even from boinking weird guys, either. The number one complaint was No Calls, No Shows. I spelled it out to make sure that guys' see it and know what I'm talking about. So many of these girls have guy's that make a date and then don't even have the common courtesy to contact the girl to cancel. Some of the girls have to come up with coin for a motel room, then make three or four dates, only to have all of them flake out. Hate to say it, but USASG guy's are notorious for it.

If you can't make a dream with a girl, call or text her to let her know. Also, don't make the date if you are unsure if you can make it there on time. Pretty simple. Yes, we all have lives, jobs, SO's, etc but just take ten seconds to send a text. My. 02.[/QUOTE]