Massage Therapists

[QUOTE=DrMajikLuv69;2612142]Hey thanks Seeker963.

Just wanted to share my honest opinion. I "thought" that MSOG two and three shots were the the standard practice by all the young hot and cute LMTs I've seen. It was only my perception because it is something that I have been getting for a long time now. When I say "long time", I mean some LMTs over 8 years. I thought that because I was getting MSOG that it must be the standard practice and that every Tom Dick and Harry was getting it too. I think the girls especially the younger hot LMTs are intrigued with a dude that can MSOG 2 or 3 times in 60 minutes. Lots of Love.

Note: some are no longer in the LMT MSOG HE practice because they've move out of state. Some come and go. When they come back to the 808, they text me or the mama text me.

However I just want to make it clear that there are some LMTs that you shared in a previous post that are only one shot deals. What I've noticed is the older LMTs only give me one shot HE, and the younger LMTs give me MSOG 2 x or 3 x HJ HE.

And when it's four hand it's 99 percent of the time MSOG 2 x or 3 x shot HJ HE.

This is a YMMV type of hobby, and there are so many variables involved such as 1) physiology / looks 2) attractive physical condition 3) generosity and 4) personality. The young hot LMT are different in mentality from the AMP girl mentality, and it takes all of the variables listed above to create the perfect "mood" that the girl would get wet and horn knee enough to want to MSOG HE on a stud or at least give a one shot deal.

Anyway thanks for understanding about keeping the LMTs identities confidential.[/QUOTE]Thanks for responding. I guess what I am hearing from basically everyone else on the site is that one pop is standard for everyone. I agree that appearances and personality go a long way, but I think the most important part of your story is the investment of 8 years and thousands of dollars. I'm sure they goes a long way beyond a smile and being in shape.

In my experience I guess I found the opposite in that old providers are more apt to give better service and multiple pops. But again that is my experience, not yours.

I am glad tho that I cleared up the mango multiple pops issue. Maybe after 8 years ago I can expect it as standard, but before that it's one pop Jack hammer.

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I saw this girl at Leelawadee in Wahiawa. She is good looking. Can anyone give me info on her? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Seeker963;2613080]Thanks for responding. I guess what I am hearing from basically everyone else on the site is that one pop is standard for everyone. I agree that appearances and personality go a long way, but I think the most important part of your story is the investment of 8 years and thousands of dollars. I'm sure they goes a long way beyond a smile and being in shape.

In my experience I guess I found the opposite in that old providers are more apt to give better service and multiple pops. But again that is my experience, not yours.

I am glad tho that I cleared up the mango multiple pops issue. Maybe after 8 years ago I can expect it as standard, but before that it's one pop Jack hammer.[/QUOTE]Yes eight years total of mongering LMTs. However it did not take eight years to develop a relationship of trust with the LMT. Most of the LMTs (90 percent of the times) the MSOG HE HJ was on the very first visit. There were a hand full that took 2 or 3 visit.

Most of the four-hand MSOG HJ HE were on the first visit too (at least 95 percent of the time), there is a method of "paired association" that I used to create the tag team of cute LMTs. I think I've shared this in PM. The "paired association" method is fairly simply and almost common sense. Therefore to summarize it did not take thousands of dollars over the total course of 8 years, because the vast majority of the MSOG HE HJ happened in the first visit.

There is however a significant different in being "faithful" to a system that works. This is a YMMV hobby and not all moves and grooves, systems work for every dude trying to get even a single pop from an LMT, let alone a young hot cute LMT that includes MSOG. This maybe be hard to believe but the young cute LMTs actually enjoy watching a freak of nature. "Amazing!" Or "Wow!" Or "Awesome" or what ever there impression. I think the initial visits is what counts. First appearance are what really matter IMO.

If it doesn't not happen on the first visit for me then I just move on. There are so many girls out there.

I've had older LMTs and they were and technique jack hammer type; in fact I've had a hand full of those, but the vast majority of the younger cute LMTs are more sensual. I guess it all depends. So much factors and variables involved YMMV.

My actually LMT mongering started about 17 years ago, however the MSOG HE were only within the last eight years.

Hope that sheds more light on the endless possibilities!

Never got a pm from you, maybe you could try it again and we can continue the conversations there.

90% msog first visit seems high to me. It's also weird that no one on this site is saying anything close that. Not even better than 50% msog on the first visit.

I'm wondering if the system is to quick shot it in the first 60 seconds so that a msog would make sense because you have all this time left.

Sure there are older ones that Jack hammer but as a general rule of thumb in mongering older more Experienced providers equates to better service. I think some of it out of necessity, and some of it because they are more experienced and have learned the craft.

It's just weird to me that you've been at this for so long yet your results seem so contrary to the General experience of people on this site both in this state and others. That's why I'm hoping you can shed some light into why that is and teach the board what ever it is that you are actually doing beyond just investing more time and money.

90% msog is such a large stat.

[QUOTE=DrMajikLuv69;2613183]Yes eight years total of mongering LMTs. However it did not take eight years to develop a relationship of trust with the LMT. Most of the LMTs (90 percent of the times) the MSOG HE HJ was on the very first visit. There were a hand full that took 2 or 3 visit.

Most of the four-hand MSOG HJ HE were on the first visit too (at least 95 percent of the time), there is a method of "paired association" that I used to create the tag team of cute LMTs. I think I've shared this in PM. The "paired association" method is fairly simply and almost common sense. Therefore to summarize it did not take thousands of dollars over the total course of 8 years, because the vast majority of the MSOG HE HJ happened in the first visit.

There is however a significant different in being "faithful" to a system that works. This is a YMMV hobby and not all moves and grooves, systems work for every dude trying to get even a single pop from an LMT, let alone a young hot cute LMT that includes MSOG. This maybe be hard to believe but the young cute LMTs actually enjoy watching a freak of nature. "Amazing!" Or "Wow!" Or "Awesome" or what ever there impression. I think the initial visits is what counts. First appearance are what really matter IMO.

If it doesn't not happen on the first visit for me then I just move on. There are so many girls out there.

I've had older LMTs and they were and technique jack hammer type; in fact I've had a hand full of those, but the vast majority of the younger cute LMTs are more sensual. I guess it all depends. So much factors and variables involved YMMV.

My actually LMT mongering started about 17 years ago, however the MSOG HE were only within the last eight years.

Hope that sheds more light on the endless possibilities![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AwabiHunter;2612516]Howzit Braddah JK.

"Hey do you remembah the Tohei" .

She should remember me in person, on the phone maybe not, that will be the trick to actually get an appt.

Took lots of work with Mae to get past the HJ but I would see her so often it progressed to BJ and finally CFS, damn her pussy was so tiny and nice I was super bummed when she moved back to Thailand.

I really likes Stacy as well but was told by both Mae and Nikki that NO WAY would she do HJ or anything, too bad cause I thought she was super sexy, loved that slutty look and thick thighs. Kay is also pretty hot in my book, I brought the girls some shrimp one time and Kay cooked for all the girls and I was invited to stay and eat sticky rice, shrimp and a bunch of other Thai food, wish I could have had a Thai Abalone buffet right in the kitchen.[/QUOTE]Brother Awabi,

Wow I never got as lucky as you! Should be a piece of cake (or hopefully more than one) haha. I never met Stacy, but knowing your taste, she's prolly a nice one.

Hope you get that appt and get it like the good old days. I trust in your experience you will get what you are looking for. Maybe bring them food again, that's a savvy way to get on the ins.

Be safe and have fun!

JK.

[QUOTE=Seeker963;2613227]Never got a pm from you, maybe you could try it again and we can continue the conversations there.

90% msog first visit seems high to me. It's also weird that no one on this site is saying anything close that. Not even better than 50% msog on the first visit.

I'm wondering if the system is to quick shot it in the first 60 seconds so that a msog would make sense because you have all this time left.

Sure there are older ones that Jack hammer but as a general rule of thumb in mongering older more Experienced providers equates to better service. I think some of it out of necessity, and some of it because they are more experienced and have learned the craft.

It's just weird to me that you've been at this for so long yet your results seem so contrary to the General experience of people on this site both in this state and others. That's why I'm hoping you can shed some light into why that is and teach the board what ever it is that you are actually doing beyond just investing more time and money.

90% msog is such a large stat.[/QUOTE]Oops your right I never PMd you. I replied back to someone else regarding the same topic.

Okay maybe more like 85 percent. It's not a exact scientific study with comparative data with a control and baseline, however I personally kept some records since oh eight. Thus 85 percent maybe more accurate.

Here is some food for thought: in the last decade the LMT business especially CC have exponentially multiplied. Compared to a decade or so ago. There are so many Thai, Chinese and Asian LMT business. Think about this for a second, then ask yourself "how do these business expand?" Then ask yourself "why are there so many more compared to a decade ago?" Think of the basic economic principle "the law of supply and demand" hmmm. Keep in mind some have expanded beyond the vicinity of CC. Into CS, Waikiki, pearl city, Waipahu, Waikele, Mililani, Wahiwa, Kapahulu, Salt Lake, etc. There are billions of them! (billion is a hyperbole) anyway you get the point.

Here another interesting fact; look on CL or BP. Lots of 4-hands now offered, compared to a decided ago.

I like to share my experience however we need to protect the confidentially of the LMTs and more importantly sustain and perpetuate the MSOG HE HJ for others that are getting MSOG extra at these legit LMT establishments (that continue to exponentially grow in the neighborhood).

All I can say is is available. MSOG HE from a cute young hot LMT! Or Four-Hand MSOG is there for everyone to enjoy but not for all to share on the internet reports. Apply the tips and hints I disclosed in my previous report a few days and few weeks ago and victory of MSOG is yours. Enjoy!

DrMajikLuv69 and Seeker963: just private message each other, please. Let's get back to real info gathering and knowledge posting.

January44.

[QUOTE=DrMajikLuv69;2613183]Yes eight years total of mongering LMTs. However it did not take eight years to develop a relationship of trust with the LMT. Most of the LMTs (90 percent of the times) the MSOG HE HJ was on the very first visit. There were a hand full that took 2 or 3 visit.[/QUOTE]I guess it also helps to have an intriguing cock. Even if I were capable, no way would I have gotten MSOG.

I must look like a crooked lousy mofo because in those RARE cases that I ever got HJ, it took several visits. As I posted a while ago, I once caressed the thigh of a known HJ therapist and she punched my arm away with both hands as though I was molesting her inside a bus shelter.

Statistics and hyperbole aside, I think most of it has to do with you. Not as an isolated case, just that others shouldn't expect to get the same results as you even if they do the same thing.

[QUOTE=JanFortifore;2613680]DrMajikLuv69 and Seeker963: just private message each other, please. Let's get back to real info gathering and knowledge posting.

January44.[/QUOTE]I was wondering if we needed another thread for the theory and statistics for massage parlor visitation. Wonder if CEU's would be granted.

[QUOTE=AwabiHunter;2612572]Howzit Braddahs,

Damn I can't find a post of her anywhere, but she would charge 130.00 for a 60 minute session, she was young, I think her ad's said 23 YO and she was always posing in Bikini's on a beach, sometimes Lanikai and sometimes Waiks, very pretty, I'm thinking her name was Sabrina but I'm not sure, HMobius was PMing me about her but I had to delete some posts for room and unfortunately must have deleted that one, anyway my question is: is this girl here in the ad the same person who was doping the 130.00 massages?

Leilani.

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Awabi.[/QUOTE]It's been brought to my attention that some PMs don't get though (received by me or who I sent to). I tried to recall the substance of that conversation and sent you another PM. If you didn't get it, let me know and I will use the "Request Read Receipt" (which I don't like to do) function next time.

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[QUOTE=HMobius;2613689]I guess it also helps to have an intriguing cock. Even if I were capable, no way would I have gotten MSOG.

I must look like a crooked lousy mofo because in those RARE cases that I ever got HJ, it took several visits. As I posted a while ago, I once caressed the thigh of a known HJ therapist and she punched my arm away with both hands as though I was molesting her inside a bus shelter.

Statistics and hyperbole aside, I think most of it has to do with you. Not as an isolated case, just that others shouldn't expect to get the same results as you even if they do the same thing.[/QUOTE]I concur. You are absolutely correct sir!

However other laymen cannot delineate the statistical and theoretical hyperbole and ponder if another thread should be started statistics and theory LOL2. However what they failed to see is that statistic and theory are part of a comprehensive report.

Anyway thanks for sharing. Your point regarding others should not expect the same results even if they do the same thing is absolutely correct.

[QUOTE=RodeHog;2612736]Awabi yes that is definitely the same wahine. She started out doing massages in CC but I guess she went to AMPs now, based on that ad. Saw her twice in CC, HE was ok. If anyone sample her at AMP please let us know how she performs, might be worth a visit.[/QUOTE]I never seen her at CC wanted to try bit for 130 thought that was a bit rich if no guaranteed HJ, but a few trusted mongers on here told me they got HJ from her so I was going to try but she stopped posting, until I seen this ad and boy do the two look similar. So you are saying this is for sure her? Damn it is rare that a massage girl rolls over to the full on AMP seen but it has happened before.

[QUOTE=JanFortifore;2613680]DrMajikLuv69 and Seeker963: just private message each other, please. Let's get back to real info gathering and knowledge posting.

January44.[/QUOTE]Speaking for myself, I'm fascinated by this convo and glad it hasn't disappeared underground via PMs. If some brothers think this discussion should reside in a separate thread of its own, whatever, no biggie, long as I can get access and be able to read and learn from it.

Tried Stella.

Initial thoughts, nothing special.

She wears a thong, so feels kinda good.

The main issue is attitude. She can be nice, but every so often she says things that make you feel uncomfortable. At 180, can get full for 20 more. Probably won't repeat. YMMV.

[QUOTE=AwabiHunter;2573551]Went to see Stella the other day after quite awhile of thinking about it, was in the mood for Asian so decided to try the Nuru.

She is Korean and and the pic of her that she posts is accurate. She is in my guess mid 30's.

L=7, A=7, S=6.

I called upland she said she would have to come down and be there in 40 minuets and she lives somewhere else and comes in by appt only, no prob so I roll down there and get up to the 10th floor of CS off Bishop street, she is Inde so that was good nobody else at all in the room, she has a massage table if your are join the cheaper route but if you want Nuru then its off to the right where there is a small bedroom with an inflatable mattress on the floor with a sheet over it, I kinda was hoping for no sheet so could get the real slip and slid experience. She comes in and I'm laying on my back with My "Tohei" peering up to see what's happening and she rolls in with only skimpy little red thongs on and she has a very nice body with naturals small be's and she tells me right away "I told you lay face down" in that bossy Korean kinda way so I say ok, I just wanted to see your body first and she says "You read my ad right" "No Sexual" and I'm kinda scratching my head going this is weird you are saying no sexual but you are only wearing thongs, ok, yes I read the ad, so I flip mover and she starts pouring the Warm Nuru gel all over me and started the body slide process and blowing in my ear and licking my ear kissing my neck etc. After about 10 minutes of this I want to flip over and see what else is available so I ask, Can I turn over and she says "No" not yet, so 30 minutes of sliding all over the place, got boring, I said I'm turning over. Flip over and the Tohei is raging hard, she starts sliding on my legs, stomach etc. Avoiding the Tohei, so I start grabbing tits and ass and she says not too much touching, I'm like WTF are you serious? She says people can hear, I said I'm not talking I'm touching, so she starts lightening up and allowing tits grabbing, tit sucking, go for the Nani and reprimanded right away. So I say I want to *uck you how much and she says I don't do that, I say ok, what about BJ, Nope don't do that either, then she starts thrusting back and forth close to the Tohei emulating she is riding it and starts jerking it, I ask her to flip around so she does and continues emulating the riding while stroking and after a about 5 minutes of this I'm super turn onso I grab her waist and start helping her rock back and forth, the Tohei slides inside her panty and makes contact with her Nani and she freaks, continues the rocking back and forth grinding on my cock with panties on and I blow the hugest load ever, all over her Tits, neck, stomach and panties and she was like holycrap, cleaned me up, small talk and left, would I repeat IDK probably not.

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Awabi.[/QUOTE]

Anyone tried that young cute petite Chinese MT in CS? Her name is Sugar. Gave me HJ on first visit along with titty sucking (nat be's), daty, BBBJ. I'm sure FS available but didn't have a condom. She came at least 5-times during the daty and was soaking wet.

She no longer is at CS as of last week. Do you know where she went? Said she was from LA, but liked and planned to stay here.