Strip Club Reports

Recently want to Trumpps for the first time since remodeling. Haven't seen much about the place on this forum lately. Average quality of girls was very good. Had a nice long conversation with a college cutie, girl next door type, slender, very pretty face, natural bees, eyebrow and lip rings but no tats that I can recall. Can't remember her fake name. She said she only does dances, no extras, but that others in the joint would give me what I asked for. I took her upstairs for one dance despite her mileage restriction, because she had already spent a fair amount of time with me. It was worth it just to suck on her great nipples. The bouncer fee is optional $5 or $10, and dances are $25 each. Booths are brightly lit, too bright in my book. Next I tipped a heavier sluttier looking middle eastern girl, hoping for better mileage. She sat down next to me when she was done dancing, but seemed more interested in eating than working. So, I left and headed to BTs, since I was warmed up and needed to find a closer. Nikki Phoenix came by, not for the first time. She's a hot tan blond. 5'8" with natural cees and her hair in a bob with some sort of bun on top. She won't discuss her menu outside of the VIP, and she acts offended if you tell her your wish list. Ended up with K, petite 5'3" pale white girl, with long wavy dark brown hair, tight spinner azz, natural bees, and some tats that I won't describe here. She was in no hurry. I had to suggest a trip to the VIP, which I usually don't like to do. Ended up negotiating BJ for 100, plus optional 20 tip for good performance. Very good skills, and energetic. Took some effort for me to make it last. No cim.

[QUOTE=Bearyc;1650878]Anyone else finding the prices outrageous?[/QUOTE]I have found their prices to be double pretty much everything on Michigan Ave. For the most part the PHC girls are hotter, but not twice as hot (unless you're talking about Bogart's some afternoons). The place is phat, and it is pretty exciting, but I would never call it "affordable."

Erica is 25ish petite 5'2" brunette.

Tipped her at the stage and she came by. Got right down to business.

Played coy, said the fun dances were $.5. $$$

After a while she said she'd do a $.5, told here that was all I had so she'd need to cover the VIP entry and don't expect a tip.

OK. On we go.

She gets naked and looks good. Starts with a BBBJ, and then after a couple minutes just jumps on BB.

I pull out, and put on my emergency spare.

After a while, finished with BBJ all over her face and half the booth (sorry guys).

Any way, watch yourself and always bring a spare.

Hey guys, I'm coming up to Detroit for a few days and am going to be visiting some SCs. I've been reading the posts on here for a couple hours now. Wow! It's a different world up here. Also, this seems like a very informative board compared to others, so thanks for all the info. I'm planning on being in the Inkster / Dearborn area as there seems to be a good selection of clubs (FC, BTs, Bogarts, H8s). I do still have some things I'm a little unsure of. Here goes.

1. Do all the clubs close at 2am?

2. Is Valet parking optional? It looks like a lot of these clubs have valet. If it is optional, is it safe to park in the parking lot or street? Price for valet? What's the etiquette on tipping?

3. When getting a VIP, is it customary to pay before or after the fun?

4. After I negotiate a price with the dancer, are there other fees I'll have to pay to get in the VIP? How much?

5. Any good / safe hotels you can recommend to stay at in this area?

6. I'll admit, I'm a wus. I'm very nervous about Detroit's crime reputation. Is this area pretty dangerous?

Thanks in advance. If you need any info on Indianapolis clubs let me know, but let's be honest, they're a joke compared to here.

I had a similar experience at BT's last Friday night with Bell (22 year old. 5'7" white brunette, with a large tattoo on her leg). She said that she usually gets $$.50 for FS and I told her that I only had $.45 left in my wallet (.20 had to go towards the VIP tax) , after some hesitation she agreed. When we arrived in the VIP she performed BBBJ and then spun around for K9 and she didn't appear to care if I wore a cover or not (which is insane) , good thing I always carry 2 covers in my wallet. We did K9 then CG and then I finished inside.

[QUOTE=Jcat69; 1651411]Hey guys, I'm coming up to Detroit for a few days and am going to be visiting some SCs. I've been reading the posts on here for a couple hours now. Wow! It's a different world up here. Also, this seems like a very informative board compared to others, so thanks for all the info. I'm planning on being in the Inkster / Dearborn area as there seems to be a good selection of clubs (FC, BTs, Bogarts, H8s). I do still have some things I'm a little unsure of.

1. Do all the clubs close at 2am?

2. Is Valet parking optional? It looks like a lot of these clubs have valet. If it is optional, is it safe to park in the parking lot or street? Price for valet? What's the etiquette on tipping?

3. When getting a VIP, is it customary to pay before or after the fun?

4. After I negotiate a price with the dancer, are there other fees I'll have to pay to get in the VIP? How much?

5. Any good / safe hotels you can recommend to stay at in this area?

6. I'll admit, I'm a wus. I'm very nervous about Detroit's crime reputation. Is this area pretty dangerous?

Thanks in advance. If you need any info on Indianapolis clubs let me know, but let's be honest, they're a joke compared to here.[/QUOTE]Here are some answers. I am sure others will have more information.

1. On weekdays more or less yes. Weekends open longer till 4 in some places.

2. H8N, H8S, Bogarts. No valet, safe parking. BTs, Trumps, Coliseum, Flight club. Valet. You can drive around and look for a place, but really its not that much (about $7) for the service.

3. A good friend informed me of his VIP strategy (others have different strategies). Start up conversation with dancer. They will usually let you know if they are an extras type of dancer by saying something like "want to get dirty" or "want to have some fun" or something similar. Often they may get ahold of your crotch to emphasize the point. My pal likes to do the following. Go for a dance with girl and see how she looks and acts etc. If he likes her and its getting fun, then the dancer will often ask if he would like to do "more". He ALWAYS brings a cover. At this point he will say, I have x amount of $.100, 120 (whatever he plans to spend). The dancer will then almost always go for BBBJ or CBJ. At some point, he covers up and quite often, with the cover on, the girl will hop on for FS for the same price 100, 120. I think it is easier for them to work their magic in that way and it looks less suspicious to the occasional bouncer. Plus it is more enjoyable for them. What is nice about this is that it is more spontaneous and more of a result of the dancer being in the mood rather than an upfront deal. Plus, if the dancer is a dud in the VIP, you can bail for 20 bucks.

4. VIP at H8N, H8S, Bogarts =10 good for eve. BTs =20 each trip. Can't remember flight club (I don't go there, I think the others clubs get the job doen for half the cost).

5. Most any of the hotels by Bogarts, H8N are fine (near airport) off I 94. Not sure of places near H8S.

6. H8N, Bogarts, H8S, BTs, flight club are all reasonably safe. More suburb than city. Have to be aware, but I have never felt in danger. The 8 mile clubs are a little more dicy in the evening. Daytime is fine.

[QUOTE=Bearyc;1650878]Anyone else finding the prices outrageous?[/QUOTE]I get the impression that the strippers at PHC have agreed to enforce a certain minimum charge for VIP fun- otherwise the pricing would not be so consistently high across all the peelers and seemingly non-negotiable. Fortunately, there are plenty of clubs within 5-10 miles that offer comparable talent (OK-maybe one step down) at half or 2/3 the PHC price.

[QUOTE=Jcat69; 1651411]Hey guys, I'm coming up to Detroit for a few days and am going to be visiting some SCs. I've been reading the posts on here for a couple hours now. Wow! It's a different world up here. Also, this seems like a very informative board compared to others, so thanks for all the info. I'm planning on being in the Inkster / Dearborn area as there seems to be a good selection of clubs (FC, BTs, Bogarts, H8s). I do still have some things I'm a little unsure of. Here goes.

1. Do all the clubs close at 2am?

2. Is Valet parking optional? It looks like a lot of these clubs have valet. If it is optional, is it safe to park in the parking lot or street? Price for valet? What's the etiquette on tipping?

3. When getting a VIP, is it customary to pay before or after the fun?

4. After I negotiate a price with the dancer, are there other fees I'll have to pay to get in the VIP? How much?

5. Any good / safe hotels you can recommend to stay at in this area?

6. I'll admit, I'm a wus. I'm very nervous about Detroit's crime reputation. Is this area pretty dangerous?

Thanks in advance. If you need any info on Indianapolis clubs let me know, but let's be honest, they're a joke compared to here.[/QUOTE]Detroit has it's good, bad, and Really bad areas, so danger is relative to where you are. The area around BT's is Dearborn and it is fine, there is a public lot next to it if you want to avoid valet charges. You can leave your coat in the car too if you want to avoid coat check charges. No idea what your budget is but any hotel in Dearborn should be fine, check tripadvisor.

I'm going to recommend you check out downtown at least once. Go to Greektown, park in the casino structure (it's free, gps if you have it) , grab dinner or lunch at a greek restaurant, check out the casino, maybe grab a beer at Bazooki's (strip club but doubt they have extra's). It is fine to walk around there, a bit grittier than downtown Indy but safe as long as you use common sense. Lot's of good normal bars.

Arrived late afternoon so I missed the lunch crowd which means the place was dead. Sat at the bar one stool away from two gals playing with there phones. Didn't even have my drink when a Choco. Started talking and caressing me (to much to soon). She does offer extra's, average gal with a "big butt". Politely turned her away.

Two gals one stool away talking and playing with their phones engaged me with some convo. That centered on the tip out and who they had to pay. The brunette was Jackie and the other was a taller blond with big bolt ons who complained about not making any money today yet never tried to sell a dance.

The best looking girl in the place was Miranda, the shot girl who never made any rounds in over two hours. In fact, I talked to her and she told me she hates to push drinks LOL. Then I thought maybe she had something else going on on but didn't pick up vibes on that.

Talked to another Choco. Who said she was new. The interesting part was she didn't want to play in the Club but said she would see me OTC is I wanted. Digits provided.

As it was time for shift change I stayed to see if something enticing would appear. At this time I buddied with another guy at the bar exchanging war stories. A sharp looking gal sat next to him (night shift). When she went to dance he said she was also intelligent but no extra's.

I don't think I've ever been to a Club on a Monday and didn't expect much. The second string was on the field.

Oh, I called Tycoons asking about a gal and was told they eliminated the 20 VIP tax. I'll have to go down there and find out the details as I'm sure Management just re-arranged the green.

[QUOTE=Jcat69; 1651411]Hey guys, I'm coming up to Detroit for a few days and am going to be visiting some SCs. I've been reading the posts on here for a couple hours now. Wow! It's a different world up here. Also, this seems like a very informative board compared to others, so thanks for all the info. I'm planning on being in the Inkster / Dearborn area as there seems to be a good selection of clubs (FC, BTs, Bogarts, H8s). I do still have some things I'm a little unsure of. Here goes.

1. Do all the clubs close at 2am?

2. Is Valet parking optional? It looks like a lot of these clubs have valet. If it is optional, is it safe to park in the parking lot or street? Price for valet? What's the etiquette on tipping?

3. When getting a VIP, is it customary to pay before or after the fun?

4. After I negotiate a price with the dancer, are there other fees I'll have to pay to get in the VIP? How much?

5. Any good / safe hotels you can recommend to stay at in this area?

6. I'll admit, I'm a wus. I'm very nervous about Detroit's crime reputation. Is this area pretty dangerous?

Thanks in advance. If you need any info on Indianapolis clubs let me know, but let's be honest, they're a joke compared to here.[/QUOTE]Like the other guy said the area of Dearborn and Inkster are safe for the most part. I happen to prefer the fc over all other bars. Its a bit pricier but worth it in my oppinion. I always use the valet as it assures your car will be safe while you play. Also be sure to watch speed limits in the Inkster and Dearborn area. They write alot of tickets in these areas for speeding. Have fun and ask for Monica at the fc.

[QUOTE=Aguinnes;1651761]The area around BT's is Dearborn and it is fine, there is a public lot next to it if you want to avoid valet charges. You can leave your coat in the car too if you want to avoid coat check charges.[/QUOTE]Or you can keep your coat on at BTs. Coat check is optional there, unlike other joints.

[QUOTE=Jcat69; 1651411]Hey guys, I'm coming up to Detroit for a few days and am going to be visiting some SCs. I've been reading the posts on here for a couple hours now. Wow! It's a different world up here. Also, this seems like a very informative board compared to others, so thanks for all the info. I'm planning on being in the Inkster / Dearborn area as there seems to be a good selection of clubs (FC, BTs, Bogarts, H8s). I do still have some things I'm a little unsure of. Here goes.

1. Do all the clubs close at 2am?

2. Is Valet parking optional? It looks like a lot of these clubs have valet. If it is optional, is it safe to park in the parking lot or street? Price for valet? What's the etiquette on tipping?

3. When getting a VIP, is it customary to pay before or after the fun?

4. After I negotiate a price with the dancer, are there other fees I'll have to pay to get in the VIP? How much?

5. Any good / safe hotels you can recommend to stay at in this area?

6. I'll admit, I'm a wus. I'm very nervous about Detroit's crime reputation. Is this area pretty dangerous?

Thanks in advance. If you need any info on Indianapolis clubs let me know, but let's be honest, they're a joke compared to here.[/QUOTE]Explorer 46 and others give some good info. The Detroit clubs are safe if you use the valet-personally, I'd not park on the street at a Detroit club no matter how expensive the valet is. I stay away from La Chambre and Chapeau Vert on Telegraph-they are dumps IMO, and the neighborhoods nearby are not good. I would say the same about H8N-that place is a dump too (again IMO) , and the neighborhood sucks. The bar is right in a residential area of Inkster. Bogart's (no valet) and FC (valet) are kind of isolated from residential areas. Dearborn (or Southgate) is ok pretty much wherever you are. On street or public lot parking is generally safe.

Safe Travels, and Regards,

Costanza

I had a few hours to kill early this afternoon so I decided to head over to Club Venus and watch some titties bouce around up on stage. I got in there and sat down and short time later this cute little waitress came over and took my order. It was too early for alcohol so I just ordered a water and sat back and watched the talent up on stage. A short time later this nice looking blonde came over and introduced herself. She said her name was Heidi. She sat down next to me and we watched the girls dance up on stage then we talked for a bit. I decided I'd make today my first hot stripper / escort type experience of the year. I let it be know to her that I was looking to spend some time in the VIP area if extras were available. I ended up negotiating some pussy in the VIP for a Franklin. Before we could go to the back room she had to take her turn up on stage. I was glad I was able to sit back and watch this girl up on stage before I fucker her. She had the nice long blonde hair, tight spinner type body and all I could think about when she was up on stage was, damn, I'm going to hit that in a minute. When she was done on stage she came back over to the table then we made our way over to the VIP. We got back there and I got comfortable then she came over and sat on my lap. She just started rubbing on my dick and it didn't take it long to become hard as a rock. I pulled her shirt down and started sucking on her titties and finally she was like, are you ready to fuck Heidi's pussy. I was like yeah. She unzipped my fly and pulled my dick out then went into her purse and pulled out a condom. (I know, but it was a must with her). She put the condom on my dick then hopped on and started riding my dick backward. After about ten minutes I turned her around so I could see those titties jiggle arourd while she rode my dick. She had a nice tight pussy, and it took me a while because of the condom, but I finally nutted. After our time together in the VIP we went back over to the table and I ordered her a drink. She sat at the table and had two drinks with me while we watched the girls up on stage. I think all total between drinks and VIP I ended up spending about one twenty. Thats is a little more than I like spending for about an hour and a half of company but I had nothing else to do. Why not fuck a nice looking stripper. I think I would repeat with this girl. I think the only negative about this girl is she always speaks about herself in the third person. Do you want to fuck Heidi's pussy. You want Heidi's this, or Heidi wants that. Got a little annoying after a while.

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Great Report,

Suppose this is the same Heidi that used to dance at Henrys North?

[QUOTE=The Mad Humper; 1652189]I had a few hours to kill early this afternoon so I decided to head over to Club Venus and watch some titties bouce around up on stage. I got in there and sat down and short time later this cute little waitress came over and took my order. It was too early for alcohol so I just ordered a water and sat back and watched the talent up on stage. A short time later this nice looking blonde came over and introduced herself. She said her name was Heidi. She sat down next to me and we watched the girls dance up on stage then we talked for a bit. I decided I'd make today my first hot stripper / escort type experience of the year. I let it be know to her that I was looking to spend some time in the VIP area if extras were available. I ended up negotiating some pussy in the VIP for a Franklin. Before we could go to the back room she had to take her turn up on stage. I was glad I was able to sit back and watch this girl up on stage before I fucker her. She had the nice long blonde hair, tight spinner type body and all I could think about when she was up on stage was, damn, I'm going to hit that in a minute. When she was done on stage she came back over to the table then we made our way over to the VIP. We got back there and I got comfortable then she came over and sat on my lap. She just started rubbing on my dick and it didn't take it long to become hard as a rock. I pulled her shirt down and started sucking on her titties and finally she was like, are you ready to fuck Heidi's pussy. I was like yeah. She unzipped my fly and pulled my dick out then went into her purse and pulled out a condom. (I know, but it was a must with her). She put the condom on my dick then hopped on and started riding my dick backward. After about ten minutes I turned her around so I could see those titties jiggle arourd while she rode my dick. She had a nice tight pussy, and it took me a while because of the condom, but I finally nutted. After our time together in the VIP we went back over to the table and I ordered her a drink. She sat at the table and had two drinks with me while we watched the girls up on stage. I think all total between drinks and VIP I ended up spending about one twenty. Thats is a little more than I like spending for about an hour and a half of company but I had nothing else to do. Why not fuck a nice looking stripper. I think I would repeat with this girl. I think the only negative about this girl is she always speaks about herself in the third person. Do you want to fuck Heidi's pussy. You want Heidi's this, or Heidi wants that. Got a little annoying after a while.

___Great Report! Suppose this is the same Heidi that used to dance at Henrys North? _______________[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Explorer46; 1651555]Here are some answers. I am sure others will have more information.

1. On weekdays more or less yes. Weekends open longer till 4 in some places.

2. H8N, H8S, Bogarts. No valet, safe parking. BTs, Trumps, Coliseum, Flight club. Valet. You can drive around and look for a place, but really its not that much (about $7) for the service.

3. A good friend informed me of his VIP strategy (others have different strategies). Start up conversation with dancer. They will usually let you know if they are an extras type of dancer by saying something like "want to get dirty" or "want to have some fun" or something similar. Often they may get ahold of your crotch to emphasize the point. My pal likes to do the following. Go for a dance with girl and see how she looks and acts etc. If he likes her and its getting fun, then the dancer will often ask if he would like to do "more". He ALWAYS brings a cover. At this point he will say, I have x amount of $.100, 120 (whatever he plans to spend). The dancer will then almost always go for BBBJ or CBJ. At some point, he covers up and quite often, with the cover on, the girl will hop on for FS for the same price 100, 120. I think it is easier for them to work their magic in that way and it looks less suspicious to the occasional bouncer. Plus it is more enjoyable for them. What is nice about this is that it is more spontaneous and more of a result of the dancer being in the mood rather than an upfront deal. Plus, if the dancer is a dud in the VIP, you can bail for 20 bucks.

4. VIP at H8N, H8S, Bogarts =10 good for eve. BTs =20 each trip. Can't remember flight club (I don't go there, I think the others clubs get the job doen for half the cost).

5. Most any of the hotels by Bogarts, H8N are fine (near airport) off I 94. Not sure of places near H8S.

6. H8N, Bogarts, H8S, BTs, flight club are all reasonably safe. More suburb than city. Have to be aware, but I have never felt in danger. The 8 mile clubs are a little more dicy in the evening. Daytime is fine.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the info! Much appreciated.

I'm still not completely getting the VIP thing. Are you saying you can go back and do a VIP for just $20 or is this a couch dance for $20 and if I like the girl go back in the VIP? In Indy, well at the club I go to the most. There is the couch dance room (open area with couches). Price is $20 per song. And then there are VIP rooms in the back (more like small closets) that cost $150 for a half hour. These are the standard prices with typically no negotiating. But there's no negotiating because extras never happen (okay, maybe I've had some a couple of times. But very rare and random).

With the couch dances you pay when you're done. With the VIP they HAVE to have the money upfront. It's a rule there. I'm thinking with the negotiating that goes on in Detroit clubs is the etiquette to pay after the 'deed' is done or before and trust that you're getting what you paid for?

[QUOTE=Tommy101;1651809]Like the other guy said the area of Dearborn and Inkster are safe for the most part. I happen to prefer the fc over all other bars. Its a bit pricier but worth it in my oppinion. I always use the valet as it assures your car will be safe while you play. Also be sure to watch speed limits in the Inkster and Dearborn area. They write alot of tickets in these areas for speeding. Have fun and ask for Monica at the fc.[/QUOTE] I do not feel that the Inkster, or Dearborn area clubs are very dangerous. I personally would avoid the Detroit clubs on Michigan, or anywhere inside Detroit simply for the reason that I avoid those areas in general, the police will not be arriving for a very long time if they are called.

The only person I know who suffered a stolen car while at a strip club had it stolen out of the valet parking at an 8 mile club. I personally will no longer give my keys to the stranger working the valet parking at a strip joint. This means that I will not go to any club with required valet parking unless someone else is driving me there in their car.

I also remember (years ago) parking on a residential street behind an 8 mile club, then being threatened by a parking attendant that he would see to it that our car would be vandalized for avoiding his fee. Fortunately, he did not see which car on the street was ours.

[QUOTE=Qetuo;1647255]This place has really gone down in quality girls, especially during the day shift (not sure about nights although they tend to be better). New rooms in the VIP are an improvement, and everythingis on the menu for all girls and is openly discussed even more so that years ago.[/QUOTE]Qetuo:

My two recent trips on nightshift were not good at all. The dayshift talent last Friday was marginal; the nightshift talent was not as good. I returned on Saturday night and received a full court press from BeBe, who I find WAY too annoying to be within 100 yards of. She was rude as hell, ugly, and a space cadet to boot. I left half my drink on the table and walked out. She just wouldn't leave using the conventional methods. I didn't want to be a the* and say "Get the F* away from me!", which might have worked. If she hounds me the next time I'm in, I'll avoid the night shift.

Regards,

Costanza

[QUOTE=Jcat69; 1652317]T, With the couch dances you pay when you're done. With the VIP they HAVE to have the money upfront. It's a rule there. I'm thinking with the negotiating that goes on in Detroit clubs is the etiquette to pay after the 'deed' is done or before and trust that you're getting what you paid for?[/QUOTE]You essentially negotiate what you'll give the dancer and for what services at the table. You go back to the VIP, which are private curtained rooms, sometimes with a tax you have to pay the bouncer to go back there, get whatever done by her, and then pay her when done. That's the average in the Detroit clubs, although there are some that are somewhat different. If you're just getting dances, then it's the same, except for, no negotiated price beforehand, the dancer just charges you an amount for how many dances she did in all for you in the back.

The 10 (or 20 or whatever) is a VIP entrance fee you pay on the way to the VIP. The girl will lead you. Then when you're in the VIP you give the girl whatever you negotiated with her, then I don't think anybody cares how many songs as long as you don't take forever. The 100 or 150 or whatever you agreed on is for the service you agreed on, not the time or number of songs. For me it's like 1 or 2 songs because I have no control, but I've read here where others claim to go 10 or 20 minutes. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Jcat69; 1652317]Thanks for all the info! Much appreciated.

I'm still not completely getting the VIP thing. Are you saying you can go back and do a VIP for just $20 or is this a couch dance for $20 and if I like the girl go back in the VIP? In Indy, well at the club I go to the most. There is the couch dance room (open area with couches). Price is $20 per song. And then there are VIP rooms in the back (more like small closets) that cost $150 for a half hour. These are the standard prices with typically no negotiating. But there's no negotiating because extras never happen (okay, maybe I've had some a couple of times. But very rare and random).

With the couch dances you pay when you're done. With the VIP they HAVE to have the money upfront. It's a rule there. I'm thinking with the negotiating that goes on in Detroit clubs is the etiquette to pay after the 'deed' is done or before and trust that you're getting what you paid for?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aguinnes; 1651761]Detroit has it's good, bad, and Really bad areas, so danger is relative to where you are. The area around BT's is Dearborn and it is fine, there is a public lot next to it if you want to avoid valet charges. You can leave your coat in the car too if you want to avoid coat check charges. No idea what your budget is but any hotel in Dearborn should be fine, check tripadvisor.

I'm going to recommend you check out downtown at least once. Go to Greektown, park in the casino structure (it's free, gps if you have it) , grab dinner or lunch at a greek restaurant, check out the casino, maybe grab a beer at Bazooki's (strip club but doubt they have extra's). It is fine to walk around there, a bit grittier than downtown Indy but safe as long as you use common sense. Lot's of good normal bars.[/QUOTE]I cruise this forum because I can't wait to get back to Detroit!

I was up last year, about this time, stayed at the hotel right across the street from Bazooki's. We were obviously happy to see such an establishment so close as we were on our way to check in. Anyway, we checked it out after dinner and had a great time. Friendly girls, pretty cheap dances with lots of contact (compared to Ohio). But, the best part was some blonde gave me a HJ during the dance; sorry I don't remember her name. She had to be discreet about it because the chair was pretty much out in the open, but that didn't stop her. I tipped her after the dance because we hadn't talked about it before. I wasn't a member of USASG at the time and had no idea of how things worked in detroit. She was looking around a lot to make sure nobody saw. She probably was the exception there, none of the other dancers brought up the topic.

Thanks to everybody for their reports; I'll use the info next time I visit.

[QUOTE=Ball Park;1653210]The 10 (or 20 or whatever) is a VIP entrance fee you pay on the way to the VIP. The girl will lead you. Then when you're in the VIP you give the girl whatever you negotiated with her, then I don't think anybody cares how many songs as long as you don't take forever. The 100 or 150 or whatever you agreed on is for the service you agreed on, not the time or number of songs. For me it's like 1 or 2 songs because I have no control, but I've read here where others claim to go 10 or 20 minutes. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Thanks! This is what I needed. Yes, that's pretty clear, but just want to make sure. You pay her the negotiated price once you are in the VIP with her but before 'the act'?

[QUOTE=Explorer46; 1651555]Here are some answers. I am sure others will have more information.

1. On weekdays more or less yes. Weekends open longer till 4 in some places.

2. H8N, H8S, Bogarts. No valet, safe parking. BTs, Trumps, Coliseum, Flight club. Valet. You can drive around and look for a place, but really its not that much (about $7) for the service.

3. A good friend informed me of his VIP strategy (others have different strategies). Start up conversation with dancer. They will usually let you know if they are an extras type of dancer by saying something like "want to get dirty" or "want to have some fun" or something similar. Often they may get ahold of your crotch to emphasize the point. My pal likes to do the following. Go for a dance with girl and see how she looks and acts etc. If he likes her and its getting fun, then the dancer will often ask if he would like to do "more". He ALWAYS brings a cover. At this point he will say, I have x amount of $.100, 120 (whatever he plans to spend). The dancer will then almost always go for BBBJ or CBJ. At some point, he covers up and quite often, with the cover on, the girl will hop on for FS for the same price 100, 120. I think it is easier for them to work their magic in that way and it looks less suspicious to the occasional bouncer. Plus it is more enjoyable for them. What is nice about this is that it is more spontaneous and more of a result of the dancer being in the mood rather than an upfront deal. Plus, if the dancer is a dud in the VIP, you can bail for 20 bucks.

4. VIP at H8N, H8S, Bogarts =10 good for eve. BTs =20 each trip. Can't remember flight club (I don't go there, I think the others clubs get the job doen for half the cost).

5. Most any of the hotels by Bogarts, H8N are fine (near airport) off I 94. Not sure of places near H8S.

6. H8N, Bogarts, H8S, BTs, flight club are all reasonably safe. More suburb than city. Have to be aware, but I have never felt in danger. The 8 mile clubs are a little more dicy in the evening. Daytime is fine.[/QUOTE]As for #3, the VIP strategy, here are my thoughts. Why waste $20 for VIP entrance and another $20-$25 / song for a few songs just to see if there is chemistry between you and a stripper or just to feel them out? The object is not to have a love affair with her. For that price you could already have had a BJ, and even the worst BJ I've ever had is good. I used to beat around the Bush and be shy about asking but not for the past 2 years. I don't let a girl sit down with me I'm not attracted to. If I let a girl sit down with me it's because I want extras from her. I get right to the point after only a few minutes of small talk. These girls have heard it all, they won't be offended. The clubs I go to 90% of the girls do extras so it's not like any of them are offended if you ask. If you wait til you get in the VIP to negotiate, you have lost your negotiating power and your dick takes over for your brain. I always bring cover. The bouncers all know what goes on back there, so who do you think you're kidding? I just come right out and say do you do extras while I'm sitting out at the table. She usually says yes 90% of the time. Then I ask what kind of extras, BJ only, FS, what exactly. Then I negotiate the price. They usually ask for twice what the are willing to settle for in a lot of cases. I end up paying usually $100-$150 tops for FS for the clubs I goto and these are for girls I'd rate an 8. I've got BJ's for as little as $50. Don't beat around the Bush, just come right out and tell them what you want. The end of the shift may be your best time to negotiate if the girl hasn't made enough money. I have been the benefit of that several times.

I have had some of the best times at PH. Quality has usually been 8 + and have had FS for not more than 150 several times. The bouncers are friendly and if you stroke the right spot in their minds, they will even make some recommendation. I have always tipped the bouncers to solicit primo info and then go in for the kill. Just love to work it that way. Now I have the bouncer watching out for me to ensure I have the best spot in the VIP and do get disturbed till I walk out of there.

Yes. It's all about the money. Believe it or not. Be upfront and negotiate upfront. The sc scene is the best in the dtw metro area.

Went to players yesterday, early afternoon. Normal lunch patrons and plenty of dancers. The quality of the dancers was better than what I saw at Coliseum on Monday. Stephanie usually works on Tuesdays but she was not there. Had quite a few stop and ask if I wanted company but told them I'm waiting for someone so I could view the line-up.

One gal who I had been to the VIP with stopped and asked where I've have been. I told her about the Coli. Visit and that it was disappointing. She said a few of her custies have told her that quality at Coli. Is going down. Take it for what its worth, maybe BS.

The girl that did sit with me was 5' 6-7, black hair with B+ and a strikingly pretty face. She was an good conversationalist and had an upbeat attitude and not "pushy". We agreed on the action and went up. This was a good experience, not rushed and more like GFE. After, she joined me at my table where I offered her a drink. After she left I had more visits trying to find out who is naughty or nice. I was in there for 3 plus hours and enjoyed the afternoon.

[QUOTE=Tomautoman; 1652291]Great Report,

Suppose this is the same Heidi that used to dance at Henrys North?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=The Mad Humper; 1652189]I had a few hours to kill early this afternoon so I decided to head over to Club Venus and watch some titties bouce around up on stage. I got in there and sat down and short time later this cute little waitress came over and took my order. It was too early for alcohol so I just ordered a water and sat back and watched the talent up on stage. A short time later this nice looking blonde came over and introduced herself. She said her name was Heidi. She sat down next to me and we watched the girls dance up on stage then we talked for a bit. I decided I'd make today my first hot stripper / escort type experience of the year. I let it be know to her that I was looking to spend some time in the VIP area if extras were available. I ended up negotiating some pussy in the VIP for a Franklin. Before we could go to the back room she had to take her turn up on stage. I was glad I was able to sit back and watch this girl up on stage before I fucker her. She had the nice long blonde hair, tight spinner type body and all I could think about when she was up on stage was, damn, I'm going to hit that in a minute. When she was done on stage she came back over to the table then we made our way over to the VIP. We got back there and I got comfortable then she came over and sat on my lap. She just started rubbing on my dick and it didn't take it long to become hard as a rock. I pulled her shirt down and started sucking on her titties and finally she was like, are you ready to fuck Heidi's pussy. I was like yeah. She unzipped my fly and pulled my dick out then went into her purse and pulled out a condom. (I know, but it was a must with her). She put the condom on my dick then hopped on and started riding my dick backward. After about ten minutes I turned her around so I could see those titties jiggle arourd while she rode my dick. She had a nice tight pussy, and it took me a while because of the condom, but I finally nutted. After our time together in the VIP we went back over to the table and I ordered her a drink. She sat at the table and had two drinks with me while we watched the girls up on stage. I think all total between drinks and VIP I ended up spending about one twenty. Thats is a little more than I like spending for about an hour and a half of company but I had nothing else to do. Why not fuck a nice looking stripper. I think I would repeat with this girl. I think the only negative about this girl is she always speaks about herself in the third person. Do you want to fuck Heidi's pussy. You want Heidi's this, or Heidi wants that. Got a little annoying after a while.

__________________[/QUOTE]This is venus Heidi

[QUOTE=Big Puff Daddy;1653386]As for #3, the VIP strategy, here are my thoughts. Why waste $20 for VIP entrance and another $20-$25 / song for a few songs just to see if there is chemistry between you and a stripper or just to feel them out? The object is not to have a love affair with her. For that price you could already have had a BJ, and even the worst BJ I've ever had is good. I used to beat around the Bush and be shy about asking but not for the past 2 years. I don't let a girl sit down with me I'm not attracted to. If I let a girl sit down with me it's because I want extras from her. I get right to the point after only a few minutes of small talk. These girls have heard it all, they won't be offended. The clubs I go to 90% of the girls do extras so it's not like any of them are offended if you ask. If you wait til you get in the VIP to negotiate, you have lost your negotiating power and your dick takes over for your brain. I always bring cover. The bouncers all know what goes on back there, so who do you think you're kidding? I just come right out and say do you do extras while I'm sitting out at the table. She usually says yes 90% of the time. Then I ask what kind of extras, BJ only, FS, what exactly. Then I negotiate the price. They usually ask for twice what the are willing to settle for in a lot of cases. I end up paying usually $100-$150 tops for FS for the clubs I goto and these are for girls I'd rate an 8. I've got BJ's for as little as $50. Don't beat around the Bush, just come right out and tell them what you want. The end of the shift may be your best time to negotiate if the girl hasn't made enough money. I have been the benefit of that several times.[/QUOTE]This is great advice, and the tactics that I have used very successfully (15 for 17) , being an out of towner, myself. The only places that it has not worked well for me is PHC and Subi's. It took me 6 girls at PHC to find one who was open to showing me the menu. Either the rest thought I was a LEO (I do not look like LE) , or only served regulars. Turns out that Subi's is not really an extras club, which surprised me given the location.

Good luck

[QUOTE=SteveBlack; 1653852]This is great advice, and the tactics that I have used very successfully (15 for 17) , being an out of towner, myself. The only places that it has not worked well for me is PHC and Subi's. It took me 6 girls at PHC to find one who was open to showing me the menu. Either the rest thought I was a LEO (I do not look like LE) , or only served regulars. Turns out that Subi's is not really an extras club, which surprised me given the location.

Good luck[/QUOTE]Being direct and upfront at Penthouse has served me well, particularly at shift change time.

It probably doesn't matter. I pay first. They're not really in a position to stiff you.

[QUOTE=Jcat69;1653285]Thanks! This is what I needed. Yes, that's pretty clear, but just want to make sure. You pay her the negotiated price once you are in the VIP with her but before 'the act'?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ball Park;1654741]It probably doesn't matter. I pay first. They're not really in a position to stiff you.[/QUOTE]I find most of them to definitely be in a position to "stiff" me.

She's not bad, but she's not good either. Quality of service if any at all depends on her mood. I've had great times with her, and others where I couldn't drop her fast enough. Venus seems to have a few nicer looking gals working there. I used to really enjoy this club but for a while they had some serious porkers dancing. Still do, but there is some new talent. Last time I was in there I got a dance from a new girl that was 4'10". She was a cutie and completely nervous. Apparently first day.

[QUOTE=Ball Park;1654741]It probably doesn't matter. I pay first. They're not really in a position to stiff you.[/QUOTE]There are many reports here and elsewhere where the dancer cut the time short or doesn't provide the services agreed upon. If you've paid upfront, who do you speak to to get your money back? The dancer? The bouncer? The manager? What do you tell them?"She didn't perform the illegal services she said she was going to"? I will never pay in advance.

Tycoons did eliminate the 20 for VIP and raised the tip out according to one dancer who was all over me the minute I sat at the bar. While she told me the tip out details, I just wanted to get away from her. Did not enjoy her touching at all. The place had few patrons and not many dancers. Plus the quality was poor.

Except. There was a pretty blond with a nice body, A+ boobs and a nice butt. I'd say an 8. She came to talk and seemed to know me. Couldn't figure this out because I'd remember her for sure. She finally told me she was the coat check girl and remembers me, she is now dancing. The current dancer had big bad bolt ons. I told her I didn't care for that. She said "I have little bitty tities" but their real and pulled back her top to show me. .

Now, I'm interested only to find out No extra's. Didn't stay long.

They did have a flyer advertising a "Fetich" party tonight if anyone's interested.

I always insist on a prior agreement with the peeler for what and how much before going to the VIP. No payment until we are done, if all goes well perhaps a small tip at the end.

[QUOTE=Oneknot;1654858]She's not bad, but she's not good either. Quality of service if any at all depends on her mood. I've had great times with her, and others where I couldn't drop her fast enough. Venus seems to have a few nicer looking gals working there. I used to really enjoy this club but for a while they had some serious porkers dancing. Still do, but there is some new talent. Last time I was in there I got a dance from a new girl that was 4'10". She was a cutie and completely nervous. Apparently first day.[/QUOTE]A few years back I caught a girl on her first day. Possibly first official dance. She became a godess and best girl of the club. You never know.

I never pay upfront. However, at BT, where I mostly go, no one asks me to pay upfront.

[QUOTE=Costanza;1654872]There are many reports here and elsewhere where the dancer cut the time short or doesn't provide the services agreed upon. If you've paid upfront, who do you speak to to get your money back? The dancer? The bouncer? The manager? What do you tell them?"She didn't perform the illegal services she said she was going to"? I will never pay in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spike Man;1654036]Being direct and upfront at Penthouse has served me well, particularly at shift change time.[/QUOTE]Right, good advice, and my preferred method. In the first two minutes of sitting down. Near shift change is a great idea, just wasn't right for me the two times I've visited.

After a good day at the car show, then the MGM casino, I decided I should check out the Flight Club. After the positive reports here and elsewhere I wanted to take a look at the high priced spreads. Quite frankly I was a bit disappointed. I was expecting model quality women with really hot bodies. Maybe I was in there too early but the women that were performing were all skinny little things with tiny boobs. The women who had the best racks were the coat check girl and a couple of the bar maids in their cute little blue corset outfits. Now having said that, for the most part the ladies faces were prettier than at some of the lower rent joints like Bogart's and Henry's, but the bodies weren't a whole lot better, and especially weren't worth the high bucks for the extras in the VIP. That's just IMHO.

I got there at about 7; 45pm and left about 9; 00pm. Valet 7bux, cover 15, beer 10 (with tip) , so 32 bux before you even see boobies. Only 5 patrons when I rolled in, about 14. 20 by the time I left. I do hope that it got great later and ya'll had a far better experience than me. But for the money, I'll stick with my joints, where I can get mine played with economically.

Saw the boozy horny girl from #2867 again at BTs Saturday night. She's a tall slender pale white girl with dark hair, wearing bright red lipstick, and her puzzy lips were bulging out of her panties. Also, she was wasted again, and a little stinky. Once again I failed to catch her stage name. Does anybody know it?