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[QUOTE=Malabar]Her pics can be found on other websites:
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We should all insist that the AG pursue fraud claims against these girls ripping-off internet photos. I for one will never look at a CL ad again without questioning its legitimacy. I am so disillusioned.
[QUOTE=Haha99]Woop Her donation rises.
Once a provider has good review here, her damage goes up.[/QUOTE]That is what sucks about this business, when you offer low donations, the hobbyists insist that it must not be worth it. When a provider gets ood reviews, they assume that a client will pay more.
Which is why I prefer to keep my donation consistent!
Anyone seen Jenny from BP
Here is a link to her ad. She is smokin hot and would love some info on her.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/smoking_hot_latina_new_to_the_area_25/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1307960[/url]
Thanks
[QUOTE=Jenna Divyne]That is what sucks about this business, when you offer low donations, the hobbyists insist that it must not be worth it. When a provider gets ood reviews, they assume that a client will pay more.
Which is why I prefer to keep my donation consistent![/QUOTE]
Jenna you are the bomb! From now on, your name is Ka-boom.
You are a great addition to Orlando.
A good review means more demand on this provider's services. This provider will not be able to provide same quality services to all. The provider simply increases rates and maintains quality.
It's unfortunate that some providers increase rates without maintaining service quality. Also some providers won't increase rates and squeeze more customers meaning reducing quality or offering a rushed service.
It's not easy for a provider to fine tune (optimize) things.
[QUOTE=Orlando J]A good review means more demand on this provider's services. This provider will not be able to provide same quality services to all. The provider simply increases rates and maintains quality.
It's unfortunate that some providers increase rates without maintaining service quality. Also some providers won't increase rates and squeeze more customers meaning reducing quality or offering a rushed service.
It's not easy for a provider to fine tune (optimize) things.[/QUOTE]That is crap, and what I call a girl gettin' greedy. 1st off, I live in the REAL WORLD! Treat all people the same. Repeat Business is more profitable in the long run than poor reviews. Higher Quantity, and lower quality equals greater risks. Increasing rates = greed, point blank, period!
While doing my daily CL browse, I noticed that Mya had returned from her 3 months hiatus. Since I had enjoyed my time with her, I thought it a good time to call her. While she still prefers the airport area as her home base, her rates have changed... Not for the better, I may add. She's under new management. I decided to pass up on it.
Nnms46.
[QUOTE=Haha99]Woop Her donation rises.
Once a provider has good review here, her damage goes up.[/QUOTE]
What do you mean? Her rates haven't gone up?
Here is her latest ad:
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1071622898.html[/url]
Still same pricing
[QUOTE=True Critic69]What do you mean? Her rates haven't gone up?
Here is her latest ad:
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1071622898.html[/url]
Still same pricing[/QUOTE]
It was 130 on Weds, but it's her time, she can charge whatever the market will bear. Who wouldn't want a raise?
[QUOTE=Misfits]Has any one had any experience with either of these ladies?
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1060521530.html[/url]
and
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/upscale_classy_erotic_playmate_w4m_22_orlando_ucf_incall_outcall_/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1305799[/url]
I have seen their ads around for a bit but still can't seem to find a review. Your help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]The C/L ad of the busty chick have been told she is not worth it. She used to go by Ashley. Don't know if she still do. Had foul smell, rushed and had a "manager" she called after the donation was asked for. Since the service was not met.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1060521530.html[/url]
After passing up on Mya, I decided to try the totally new redbone from NC, Daisy. She was at a parlor getting her nails done, so we agreed to meet in approx. 30 - 45mins. I was to see her for the .$/HH rate. She gave me directions to her incall location, and said that she'd call me once there.
An hour had already passed since my initial call, and I hadn't heard from her, so I decided to head on home. While en route, she calls me to keep the appointment, and apologizes for not calling. She wasn't satisfied with the results from her nail job. I told her that it was too late, and would have to reschedule.
Two days later, I still have a taste for some hot southern redbone. I gave her a call. I reminded her about the wasted time from the last time, and was able to knock .20 off the original agreed donation. She directs me to the same location. When I arrived, she was lounging in the lobby. She's quite a looker, even better than her pics. I went over to her and acted as we were old acquaintances. She's very personable, nice personality. Lookswise, she's approximately 5-7 or 8, slim with a figure C-cup breasts. [Her posted pictures are too large, and I can't upload them with the report.] We chitchatted for a bit then headed up to her room.
As much as I'd like to tell you that I had a toe curling experience, I can't. First off, her room was a mess, with her belongings strewn about. When I went in the bathroom, I noticed some toiletries that would belong to a man. I asked her about them, and she said that they belonged to her boyfriend. But he was away in Tampa. When it was time to perform, she seemed a little uneasy about it. She tried, unsuccessfully, to put on the raincoat. I had to take care of it myself. She then started of with weak CBJ where I asked her if she was going to go past the head. She then replied " do you want me to throw-up all over you? " We started off in the mish. However, when I started to suck on her nipples, she covered them. She said that they were extremely sensitive, to the point of hurting. I then flipped her on her belly where she would pull away to keep me from going all the way deep inside her. Finally, she pretty much laid there until It was over. I got up, went to clean up. She continued to chat me up as if she gave me a good time. I continued the pleasantries until I left. I will definitely not repeat.
Nnms46.
While visiting Daisy, she did tell me that she rolls with Mariah. The southern belle from Memphis. I was always curious about her, but her demeanor in her pictures always kept me at bay. While leaving from seeing Daisy, I did cross paths with Mariah's boyfriend. To the uninitiated, he might seem scary, but he actually was quite polite. I wouldn't let him get in the way of seeing Mariah, if I were so inclined.
Nnms46.
Her picture files are too large as well...Sorry. Maybe one of you guys with better computer skills could go on CL get their Pics , shrink them then post them on the appropriate reviews. Thanks in advance.
Here are a couple of pictures of each.
I did my good deed for today. Now can I go out and play?
Seems to look like a fake but thought I would ask if anyone has seen her. Here is her add. And her pic.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1073604227.html[/url]
Dreamed her Thursday night.
She is pretty. It is surprising that she is pregnant.
According review here and another website, I thought BBBJ is on the list. However, she said she did not offer BBBJ to any customers. No CBJ either. I mentioned here and TER, and she replied BJ made her sick. And she treated anyone in the same way. During the section, she seemed not interested in action and tried not to be responsive.
After coming home, I checked another website and saw the 2nd reviewr seemed to have HJ only.
I thought she is a kind of YMMV.
[QUOTE=Haha99]Dreamed her Thursday night.
She is pretty. It is surprising that she is pregnant.
According review here and another website, I thought BBBJ is on the list. However, she said she did not offer BBBJ to any customers. No CBJ either. I mentioned here and TER, and she replied BJ made her sick. And she treated anyone in the same way. During the section, she seemed not interested in action and tried not to be responsive.
After coming home, I checked another website and saw the 2nd reviewr seemed to have HJ only.
I thought she is a kind of YMMV.[/QUOTE]
Just like with most providers......yes YMMV
I can tell you I have gone for my 4th time.....and can say I thoroughly enjoyed myself each and every time.
FYI...she doesnt like the taste of latex thats why no CBJ.
She is a low volume provider....she doesnt just see anyone...she has certain turn ons and turn offs and if you happen to have one of the turn offs then yes........YMMV.
[QUOTE=True Critic69]Just like with most providers......yes YMMV
I can tell you I have gone for my 4th time.....and can say I thoroughly enjoyed myself each and every time.
FYI...she doesnt like the taste of latex thats why no CBJ.
She is a low volume provider....she doesnt just see anyone...she has certain turn ons and turn offs and if you happen to have one of the turn offs then yes........YMMV.[/QUOTE]If the provider takes the donation, she is kind of obligated to put on her game face and go to work. If the client is not to her liking, then she should not take the donation and politely send the client on his way. She can make any number of excuses.
I would have to say though, if a provider does not do BBBJ or CBJ, she does not belong in the "real deal" catagory. That is more than YMMV. It is evident that True Critic likes this provider and that is all well and good, but she might need to fine tune her game a little and I thought HaHa made a good report on Asylynn.
BTW. She did put up and ad on CL for $. 30 for the half and $$. 30 for the hour, so it was no typo. She has since taken the ad down.
Any one have any experience with this hottie.
Looks to good to be true.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1074718481.html[/url]
While browsing I found this other provider named Jenna, she is a CC scam.
[url]http://hartford.craigslist.org/ers/1074231180.html[/url]
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1074306408.html[/url]
[url]http://daytona.craigslist.org/ers/1074154132.html[/url]
[url]http://lakeland.craigslist.org/ers/1074071262.html[/url]
[QUOTE/]
FYI...she doesnt like the taste of latex thats why no CBJ.[QUOTE/]
Hoping to heat up relationships, Carter-Wallace in July(1999) will launch Trojan Supra, a clear, odor-free, nonlatex condom that transmits body heat.
C-W aims to capitalize on the strength of the sensitivity/sensation subsegment, now half the market, while luring new users from among the 6% of the population who are allergic to latex, per American Academy of Dermatology data cited in trade materials.
Using ultra-thin and ultra-strong medical-grade material, Supra will be the thinnest Trojan available and the company's first polyurethane condom. It will also be the only one on the market with spermicide, and can he used with water- and oil-based lubricant.
There are many brands available on todays market, more expensive of course, throw one in your pocket and when a chick pulls that BS, whip it out!!-----VS
[QUOTE=VerySlowly][QUOTE/]
FYI...she doesnt like the taste of latex thats why no CBJ.[QUOTE/]
Hoping to heat up relationships, Carter-Wallace in July(1999) will launch Trojan Supra, a clear, odor-free, nonlatex condom that transmits body heat.
C-W aims to capitalize on the strength of the sensitivity/sensation subsegment, now half the market, while luring new users from among the 6% of the population who are allergic to latex, per American Academy of Dermatology data cited in trade materials.
Using ultra-thin and ultra-strong medical-grade material, Supra will be the thinnest Trojan available and the company's first polyurethane condom. It will also be the only one on the market with spermicide, and can he used with water- and oil-based lubricant.
There are many brands available on todays market, more expensive of course, throw one in your pocket and when a chick pulls that BS, whip it out!!-----VS[/QUOTE]
I get what your saying, but I still think its a providers choice....to do that or not.
Unfortunately some guys think that because a girl is a provider...her services are the same across the board for everyone....not always true.
I know some providers for instance, will not do bbbj on someone not circumcised....i think they have that right to say no to that.
Some who dont like men who are not concerned with showing up clean & fresh and instead show up dirty and sweaty.
Other who wont see anyone under 30 yrs old....etc
Guess my point is that we have to respect their wishes.....maybe Im the only one who thinks that but I do.
Had a couple of recent dreams about Amy. Great provider with exceptional skills, if my dreams are correct. I dreamed that she went out of her way to put a little extra into a BBBJ, and she seemed to really love her work.
Each dream lasted about an hour and when I awoke I was amazingly refreshed and satisfied!
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1071691699.html[/url]
Nick
[QUOTE=True Critic69][QUOTE=VerySlowly][QUOTE/]
FYI...she doesnt like the taste of latex thats why no CBJ.
I get what your saying, but I still think its a providers choice....to do that or not.
Unfortunately some guys think that because a girl is a provider...her services are the same across the board for everyone....not always true.
I know some providers for instance, will not do bbbj on someone not circumcised....i think they have that right to say no to that.
Some who dont like men who are not concerned with showing up clean & fresh and instead show up dirty and sweaty.
Other who wont see anyone under 30 yrs old....etc
Guess my point is that we have to respect their wishes.....maybe Im the only one who thinks that but I do.[/QUOTE]
Both of you are making good points. I would like to add some comments:
I bring my own condoms. I don't always use my own, but at least I have them in case she is out or uses a brand I don't like. For example, there is a particular type of Trojan that stinks. I mean it smells like a pencil eraser, but much stronger. Actually, I don't see how Trojans are so popular, unless it is just good marketing. I like LifeStyles. In my mind, I am giving up quite a bit of money for my experience, so why not make it as good as possible? It's like ordering a great bottle of wine from a restaurant and then they bring you crappy little glasses.
Speaking of LifeStyles, they now make a non-latex condom called Skyn. I'm almost done with my frist box and so far I like them.
I suggest you never use a condom with spermacide. They will taste bad in the escorts mouth, they can cause a burning sensation for you or her, and they really are not effective. The health departments to do not give them out any more. By the way, any local health department will give you free condoms. When my son was in high school, we went there for him to get a vaccine. I figured why not kill two birds with one stone and we got some sex ed type questions answered and they gave him a free bag of about 100 condoms.
It turns me off when a provider has a bunch of excuses (i.e. "I ran out of condoms." "I am alergic to latex." "My back hurts in that position.") Yes, it may be the truth. But if it is not, just tell me the truth! I don't want to hear a bunch of BS excuses. In all the escorts I have been with, I have only heard one of those excuses, but I see it often in reviews. Oh yea, one more thing. Don't tell me my dick is so hard. Sure, tell me I make you feel good, I am a good kisser, you like the way I go down on you, but as far as hard...I am 50 years old. Nothing is hard on my body except my thick head!
I do think we should be respectful of providers. They should not have to do something they truely do not want to do. In fact, if I sense a provider is not enjoying a particular thing, I simply tell them "You don't have to do that if you don't like it." I know that may sound whimpy or I am the customer, etc., but why make someone do something they do not enjoy? I'd rather have a willing partner.
[QUOTE=True Critic69][QUOTE=VerySlowly][QUOTE/]
FYI...she doesnt like the taste of latex thats why no CBJ.
I get what your saying, but I still think its a providers choice....to do that or not.
Unfortunately some guys think that because a girl is a provider...her services are the same across the board for everyone....not always true.
I know some providers for instance, will not do bbbj on someone not circumcised....i think they have that right to say no to that.
Some who dont like men who are not concerned with showing up clean & fresh and instead show up dirty and sweaty.
Other who wont see anyone under 30 yrs old....etc
Guess my point is that we have to respect their wishes.....maybe Im the only one who thinks that but I do.[/QUOTE]
No your not the only one.......BUT....if a guy is paying a large fee for an appointment with a provider he deserves to know a providers rules and boundaries up front. If I'm paying then a girl has to respect my wishes as well. If a girl does not wish to participate in oral sex, GFE-kissing etc. in other words the things that are considered normal in this game say so up front, there is nothing that pisses off a guy more than paying, stripping and then being told; I'm on my period, my breast's are sore and I don't like the taste of latex, or my mouth is too small for that, or that makes me gag, and I don't want to throw up on you.
I will rub your back and squeeze your Johnson though, is that OK?
The true professional providers NEVER pull that crap.
The quality determines their reputation.
The quick BBBJ can be had on the trail for $20+. When you pay $150-200+ the expectations get significantly higher.
There seems to be some discussion about the services the young lady provides and to whom she provides them. That would be enough to make me question her motivation. If a girl doesn't want to provide the basic, expected services she should consider another line of work. Ask yourself this, would you return to a car-wash that washed everything but you wheels and trunk?.
There is not a provider anywhere that will say that personally I have shown them anything but the utmost respect and 95% return that respect if not I tell them what I think and never return. Thankfully that doesn't happen often anymore because I can tell almost instantly by the girls attitude and facial expressions what the experience will be like and I don't lie to myself anymore if the vibe isn't right I politely take my leave.---VS
[QUOTE=Warpfactor69][QUOTE=True Critic69][QUOTE=VerySlowly]
Both of you are making good points. I would like to add some comments:
I bring my own condoms. I don't always use my own, but at least I have them in case she is out or uses a brand I don't like. For example, there is a particular type of Trojan that stinks. I mean it smells like a pencil eraser, but much stronger. Actually, I don't see how Trojans are so popular, unless it is just good marketing. I like LifeStyles. In my mind, I am giving up quite a bit of money for my experience, so why not make it as good as possible? It's like ordering a great bottle of wine from a restaurant and then they bring you crappy little glasses.
Speaking of LifeStyles, they now make a non-latex condom called Skyn. I'm almost done with my frist box and so far I like them.
I suggest you never use a condom with spermacide. They will taste bad in the escorts mouth, they can cause a burning sensation for you or her, and they really are not effective. The health departments to do not give them out any more. By the way, any local health department will give you free condoms. When my son was in high school, we went there for him to get a vaccine. I figured why not kill two birds with one stone and we got some sex ed type questions answered and they gave him a free bag of about 100 condoms.
It turns me off when a provider has a bunch of excuses (i.e. "I ran out of condoms." "I am alergic to latex." "My back hurts in that position.") Yes, it may be the truth. But if it is not, just tell me the truth! I don't want to hear a bunch of BS excuses. In all the escorts I have been with, I have only heard one of those excuses, but I see it often in reviews. Oh yea, one more thing. Don't tell me my dick is so hard. Sure, tell me I make you feel good, I am a good kisser, you like the way I go down on you, but as far as hard...I am 50 years old. Nothing is hard on my body except my thick head!
I do think we should be respectful of providers. They should not have to do something they truely do not want to do. In fact, if I sense a provider is not enjoying a particular thing, I simply tell them "You don't have to do that if you don't like it." I know that may sound whimpy or I am the customer, etc., but why make someone do something they do not enjoy? I'd rather have a willing partner.[/QUOTE]
You & VS make excellent points too
However the provider in question....NEVER puts in her ad BBBJ or CBJ or even GFE, as a matter of fact her TER profile under "Blowjob" it says "Don't Know" so she IS NOT advertising that she does either......the guy read some reviews that listed OTHERS had received a BBBJ...Even her TER profile says "blow job: Don't Know".....so its not like she is false advertising.....He went there under the impression because others had recieved a BBBJ that he would too....I can't answer why he didn't....all I can say is I believe if ANY provider who DOESNT advertise that she offers BBBJ or CBJ then she has the right to choose to do that to whom ever she wants.
But I will let her know about those new condoms.....hell maybe next time I see her I'll let her practice tasting it on me.....lol
This way she can offer BBBJ or CBJ depending on how she sees fit.
[QUOTE=True Critic69][QUOTE=VerySlowly][QUOTE/]
FYI...she doesnt like the taste of latex thats why no CBJ.
I get what your saying, but I still think its a providers choice....to do that or not.
Unfortunately some guys think that because a girl is a provider...her services are the same across the board for everyone....not always true.
I know some providers for instance, will not do bbbj on someone not circumcised....i think they have that right to say no to that. Some who dont like men who are not concerned with showing up clean & fresh and instead show up dirty and sweaty.
Other who wont see anyone under 30 yrs old....etc
Guess my point is that we have to respect their wishes.....maybe Im the only one who thinks that but I do.[/QUOTE]
I think a BJ is a standard expectation in our hobby. As far as I'm concerned she can choose covered or uncovered, but she had better be clear before I drive all the way over to hook up. If I show up and she starts with rules like "no BJ" or "no doggie style" she can then pay ME for my trouble and I'll leave. Now if a monger shows up unshowered that is a different story, but a BJ has got to be part of the standard offering. There are plenty of condoms on the market that don't taste like latex. If she has gagging problems, she is in the wrong business!
WOF
[QUOTE=Worldsoffun][QUOTE=True Critic69][QUOTE=VerySlowly]
I think a BJ is a standard expectation in our hobby. As far as I'm concerned she can choose covered or uncovered, but she had better be clear before I drive all the way over to hook up. If I show up and she starts with rules like "no BJ" or "no doggie style" she can then pay ME for my trouble and I'll leave. Now if a monger shows up unshowered that is a different story, but a BJ has got to be part of the standard offering. There are plenty of condoms on the market that don't taste like latex. If she has gagging problems, she is in the wrong business!
WOF[/QUOTE]
Question...
What if she doesnt like uncircumcised and refuses to do CBJ because of taste or allergeic reaction. Should she have to do one or the other?
Even though she DOESNT advertise either.
And for the record she doesnt have a gagging problem.....lol
What about the AMPs/Massage/Bodyrubs we pay them and ALL we usually get is a HJ.
With her you get her punanee which to me is WAY more important than a BJ.
Im just playing the devil's advocate because truth be told for me I think she is great and have repeated and will continue to do so.....
Bu this is why she DOESNT advertise GFE, or BBBJ or CBJ so that the guys DONT automatically believe they are going to get that.
My problem was I wrote a review about MY experience without first asking her if she offered to everyone what she offered me. So I apologize for doing that. But others have recieved what I did, so I know she does do it.
As a matter of fact when I go to see her for the 5th time I will ask her how she would like to be categorized and what are her requirements for giving a BJ, so there is NO confusion.
Hope that will help.
TC69
[QUOTE=Warpfactor69]
Both of you are making good points. I would like to add some comments:
I bring my own condoms. I don't always use my own, but at least I have them in case she is out or uses a brand I don't like. For example, there is a particular type of Trojan that stinks. I mean it smells like a pencil eraser, but much stronger. Actually, I don't see how Trojans are so popular, unless it is just good marketing. I like LifeStyles. In my mind, I am giving up quite a bit of money for my experience, so why not make it as good as possible? It's like ordering a great bottle of wine from a restaurant and then they bring you crappy little glasses.
Speaking of LifeStyles, they now make a non-latex condom called Skyn. I'm almost done with my frist box and so far I like them.
I suggest you never use a condom with spermacide. They will taste bad in the escorts mouth, they can cause a burning sensation for you or her, and they really are not effective. The health departments to do not give them out any more. By the way, any local health department will give you free condoms. When my son was in high school, we went there for him to get a vaccine. I figured why not kill two birds with one stone and we got some sex ed type questions answered and they gave him a free bag of about 100 condoms.
It turns me off when a provider has a bunch of excuses (i.e. "I ran out of condoms." "I am alergic to latex." "My back hurts in that position.") Yes, it may be the truth. But if it is not, just tell me the truth! I don't want to hear a bunch of BS excuses. In all the escorts I have been with, I have only heard one of those excuses, but I see it often in reviews. Oh yea, one more thing. Don't tell me my dick is so hard. Sure, tell me I make you feel good, I am a good kisser, you like the way I go down on you, but as far as hard...I am 50 years old. Nothing is hard on my body except my thick head!
I do think we should be respectful of providers. They should not have to do something they truely do not want to do. In fact, if I sense a provider is not enjoying a particular thing, I simply tell them "You don't have to do that if you don't like it." I know that may sound whimpy or I am the customer, etc., but why make someone do something they do not enjoy? I'd rather have a willing partner.[/QUOTE]
Very well said...I agree with your last statement. Because Im the same way.
[QUOTE=Wetnwilling]Any one have any experience with this hottie.
Looks to good to be true.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/1074718481.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Her pic can be found on three other websites:
[url]http://www.barstoolsports.com/article/wake_with_misa_campo/2342/[/url] (about 1/2-way down)
[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/perdition/page13/[/url] (what page this will be on may change)
[url]http://forum.fok.nl/topic/1111275/1/100[/url]
Mal
[QUOTE=Malabar]Her pic can be found on three other websites:
[url]http://www.barstoolsports.com/article/wake_with_misa_campo/2342/[/url] (about 1/2-way down)
[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/perdition/page13/[/url] (what page this will be on may change)
[url]http://forum.fok.nl/topic/1111275/1/100[/url]
Mal[/QUOTE]
Mr. Malabar: Would you mind sharing a trick-of-the-trade? How in the world were you able to locate that pic in those three places?
[QUOTE=Warpfactor69]
I do think we should be respectful of providers. They should not have to do something they truely do not want to do. In fact, if I sense a provider is not enjoying a particular thing, I simply tell them "You don't have to do that if you don't like it." I know that may sound whimpy or I am the customer, etc., but why make someone do something they do not enjoy? I'd rather have a willing partner.[/QUOTE]
Most excellent point. The other night I had a threesome. The girls told me upfront that they would do other girls (for work) but did not have sex with girls in their private lives.
When we moved from discussion to action the girls seemed reluctant to go down on each other. I asked them if that was something they would rather not do and they said yes. I said no problem, do what you are comfortable doing. They were comfortable doing a lot and because I showed them respect they showed me a good time. At the end it was a major cuddlefest and I am a guy THEY want to see again.
We often talk here after seeing someone whether we would repeat. I think the key to having a good time is being someone the girl you are with would like to see again. Someone the girl tells other girls about. Anyone who thinks this is only about money, for them -- it is only about money.
[QUOTE=VerySlowly]
No your not the only one.......BUT....if a guy is paying a large fee for an appointment with a provider he deserves to know a providers rules and boundaries up front. If I'm paying then a girl has to respect my wishes as well. If a girl does not wish to participate in oral sex, GFE-kissing etc. in other words the things that are considered normal in this game say so up front, there is nothing that pisses off a guy more than paying, stripping and then being told; I'm on my period, my breast's are sore and I don't like the taste of latex, or my mouth is too small for that, or that makes me gag, and I don't want to throw up on you.
I will rub your back and squeeze your Johnson though, is that OK?
The true professional providers NEVER pull that crap.
The quality determines their reputation.
The quick BBBJ can be had on the trail for $20+. When you pay $150-200+ the expectations get significantly higher.
There seems to be some discussion about the services the young lady provides and to whom she provides them. That would be enough to make me question her motivation. If a girl doesn't want to provide the basic, expected services she should consider another line of work. Ask yourself this, would you return to a car-wash that washed everything but you wheels and trunk?.
There is not a provider anywhere that will say that personally I have shown them anything but the utmost respect and 95% return that respect if not I tell them what I think and never return. Thankfully that doesn't happen often anymore because I can tell almost instantly by the girls attitude and facial expressions what the experience will be like and I don't lie to myself anymore if the vibe isn't right I politely take my leave.---VS[/QUOTE]
Well said. There is no conflict between respect and getting what you paid for. It's actually disrespectful if she does not give you your money's worth.
On the other hand, being upfront and telling the customer ahead what is not offered. BJ is expected if it is not offered the provider has to be clear about that.
Do not get me wrong. I do not force a provider to do something she does not like but I have to be the judge on this.
YMMV is not a good thing. New girls and unprofessional ones are YMMV. I have seen few of them and have not reviewed them. Mostly I am suck-sex-full in getting the best out of YMMV. Stephani is an example of this. Once the girl is in the business it becomes a profession. Also, I am talking about a hobbyist who behaved properly and with professionalism.
Anything out of the norm is what we are talking about. If a girl is in this business and she tells you sorry I am in my period, no CBJ, no doggie but you can lay down I'll give you a good massage. That's completely out of the norm.
[QUOTE=Haha99]Dreamed her Thursday night.
She is pretty. It is surprising that she is pregnant.
According review here and another website, I thought BBBJ is on the list. However, she said she did not offer BBBJ to any customers. No CBJ either. I mentioned here and TER, and she replied BJ made her sick. And she treated anyone in the same way. During the section, she seemed not interested in action and tried not to be responsive.
After coming home, I checked another website and saw the 2nd reviewr seemed to have HJ only.
I thought she is a kind of YMMV.[/QUOTE]I dreamt of Ashlynn on Fri. After other plans fell through. I, too, was surprised to find she was pregnant, but she was very sweet, eager and willing for me, so I went forward anyway (never had this type of experience with pregnant girl before). No problem for me with BBBJ (although didn't last long. And she specifically requested no CIM which was ok for me), DFK and full service. Very sweet girl with pretty eyes and I think we connected a bit. Guess everyone's experience can be different.
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[QUOTE=Orlando J]Well said. There is no conflict between respect and getting what you paid for. It's actually disrespectful if she does not give you your money's worth.
On the other hand, being upfront and telling the customer ahead what is not offered. BJ is expected if it is not offered the provider has to be clear about that.
Do not get me wrong. I do not force a provider to do something she does not like but I have to be the judge on this.
YMMV is not a good thing. New girls and unprofessional ones are YMMV. I have seen few of them and have not reviewed them. Mostly I am suck-sex-full in getting the best out of YMMV. Stephani is an example of this. Once the girl is in the business it becomes a profession. Also, I am talking about a hobbyist who behaved properly and with professionalism.
Anything out of the norm is what we are talking about. If a girl is in this business and she tells you sorry I am in my period, no CBJ, no doggie but you can lay down I'll give you a good massage. That's completely out of the norm.[/QUOTE]
What about the low volume provider......who is looking to establish regulars and then STOP advertising and not see ANYONE who is not a regular?
Would you say she is not professional?
Alot of the low volume girls who have their regulars do not see anyone new.....I know this because I know a few of them.
They do this because its NOT just about the money to them but also the respect and chemistry between the provider and hobbyist.
Over on TER their is a forum that ONLY providers have access too....Some of the providers I know would let me see what they talk about and that is one popular topic......"What do you do when you have a Hobbyist you dont like or are completely turned off by".........some of their responses are funny, but the main theme through them is......"Your body your choice....that hobbyist might get mad but those you have serviced well will not."
And everyone that has commented on this here, seems to keep missing my point......She NEVER advertised that she does BBBJ or CBJ.....
So I dont know why people expect that....If i go see a provider and she tells me, I dont do CBJ or BBBJ, and thats what I really wanted then I would just leave....if for me a I put such an importance on a BJ.
Personally I like the toto more than the mouth.....so its no Big deal for me.
I never "expect" anything, till I am face to face and talk about her do's and dont's and I always have the choice to leave if I don't like it.
And unfortunately its not like we can ask on the phone "hey do you do bbbj or cbj? cause we would get hung up on...lol....so its either take the chance and ask her in person or move on to another girl who DOES advertise BBBJ.
I have a perfect example, short while ago I went to see Nicole Latina.....when she was first here.....I asked her if she kisses....she said ONLY if you dont have bad breath....I was cool with that cause I dont.....but it told me that if she sees someone who does then thats off the menu.
TC69
[QUOTE=True Critic69]What about the low volume provider......who is looking to establish regulars and then STOP advertising and not see ANYONE who is not a regular?
Would you say she is not professional?
Alot of the low volume girls who have their regulars do not see anyone new.....I know this because I know a few of them.
They do this because its NOT just about the money to them but also the respect and chemistry between the provider and hobbyist.
TC69[/QUOTE]I think Mr. True Critic is missing the point. What these other gentlemen are describing as "professional ladies" are just seasoned vets that know the ropes and what is expected. New and inexperienced providers may have problems with certain types of guys, where the quality experienced lady would find a way to make it work with a wider variety of hobbyists.
That is why new and inexperienced providers should not be listed as the real deal. They need to prove themselves over a period of time.
I still think it is basic service for a provider to have a BJ on the menu. It is up to them whether or not it is BBBJ or CBJ, but to not want to do a BJ, then they might want to seek another line of work.
[QUOTE=True Critic69]What about the low volume provider......who is looking to establish regulars and then STOP advertising and not see ANYONE who is not a regular?
Would you say she is not professional?
Alot of the low volume girls who have their regulars do not see anyone new.....I know this because I know a few of them.
They do this because its NOT just about the money to them but also the respect and chemistry between the provider and hobbyist.
Over on TER their is a forum that ONLY providers have access too....Some of the providers I know would let me see what they talk about and that is one popular topic......"What do you do when you have a Hobbyist you dont like or are completely turned off by".........some of their responses are funny, but the main theme through them is......"Your body your choice....that hobbyist might get mad but those you have serviced well will not."[/quote]
Yes, girls are humans. They have their likes and dislikes. There is a line that separates a professional and an amateur. If you are paying for a service you should get it. If you call/go to a service establishment/hotel the operator/receptionist might not like but that does not stand in the way of getting the same standard service? She might not go an extra mile for you but you still get the service.
Me and many others here have had suck-sex-full exeperiences outside P4P also the majority of P4P girls went the extra mile for us. Me and many others tried suck-sex-fully those low volume and new in business. I am actually happy with those. I have at least 10 girls that do not work any more and still see me. Some even hooked me up with others that do not advertise or walk the streets at all. This is because not only we have experience but also we are respectful.
[QUOTE=True Critic69]
And everyone that has commented on this here, seems to keep missing my point......She NEVER advertised that she does BBBJ or CBJ.....
So I dont know why people expect that....If i go see a provider and she tells me, I dont do CBJ or BBBJ, and thats what I really wanted then I would just leave....if for me a I put such an importance on a BJ.
TC69[/QUOTE]
We are not talking about this specific person. We are talking in general.
Well there has been alot of talk about this girl on here. About BBBJ or CBJ or not at all.....
I finally spoke with her to see what the issue was with BBBJ or CBJ.
This is what she told me, BBBJ is offered ONLY for the following:
Clean, Good Smelling, and CIRCUMCISED.
She is willing to try those non latex, poly skin etc for the following:
Clean, Good Smelling, and Uncircumcised.
And NO BBBJ or CBJ to anyone that has BO from the crotch....lol
This should clear up any and all confusion. So guys check your peckers and you will see which category you fall into.
The gentlemen from here who went to see her.....she is new to the biz....didnt know about the non latex condoms so that is why she said she doesnt offer BBBJ or CBJ, she didnt want to offend you by saying she doesnt do BBBJ to uncircumcised....but that was the truth. And she only had latex condoms so thats why she couldnt even do the CBJ.
But good news she is going out and getting the non latex ones so it should be all good now.
As I said on an earlier post.....lets treat her right and she will last....
So far of all the ppl I know who have seen her nothing but great remarks.....even the BEST of providers has an off day.
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Never heard of such a thing before. Thanks for the Tin Eye site.
[QUOTE=True Critic69]Well there has been alot of talk about this girl on here. About BBBJ or CBJ or not at all.
I finally spoke with her to see what the issue was with BBBJ or CBJ.
This is what she told me, BBBJ is offered ONLY for the following:
Clean, Good Smelling, and CIRCUMCISED.
She is willing to try those non latex, poly skin etc for the following:
Clean, Good Smelling, and Uncircumcised.
And NO BBBJ or CBJ to anyone that has BO from the crotch....lol
This should clear up any and all confusion. So guys check your peckers and you will see which category you fall into.
The gentlemen from here who went to see her.....she is new to the biz....didnt know about the non latex condoms so that is why she said she doesnt offer BBBJ or CBJ, she didnt want to offend you by saying she doesnt do BBBJ to uncircumcised....but that was the truth. And she only had latex condoms so thats why she couldnt even do the CBJ.
But good news she is going out and getting the non latex ones so it should be all good now.
As I said on an earlier post.....lets treat her right and she will last....
So far of all the ppl I know who have seen her nothing but great remarks.....even the BEST of providers has an off day.[/QUOTE]Make sure you collect your commission on your 5th or 6th or 7th time,,or whichever one you are on.