Try tote the note lots also.
[QUOTE=Project X; 1769428]The streets seem to be swept clean but I've noticed they have mooved to porches and entry doors. They are out ya just got to have a sharp eye.
You are right about storefronts also, just be careful out there ya'll.
X[/QUOTE]I was driving by one the other day & noticed this beautiful slim blonde so I whipped into the lot almost causing an accident. A guy asked me if I needed any help but I told him I was broke & unemployed. He said not many people broke people drive late model German cars, I laughed & said no I just wanted to get a better look at the blonde. He said she is still short on her down payment & thinks if she flits her pretty ass around here long enough then we will cut her some slack. He went back in & she came out upset about 5 minutes later. I stopped her, told her how beautiful she was & that I was a photographer if she wanted to make some extra bread. We met an hour later atthe Kroger in Fountain City. We spent an entire afternoon together & I slow played we started out with some sexy shots of her in her little minidress but within an hour she was posing in a thong topless. She wouldn't let me take pics of her naked but she did et me admire her nude. I, intentionally, changed into a pair of old running shorts so my hard on would be obvious. After I told her, how much she turned me on she said she noticed I had been throbbing for for a longtime & giggled then she said she was really turned on & would love for me to grudge f*k her but she had a long time boyfriend, loved him & had never cheated on him so even though she was horny as hell & my hard on was looking real good to her she wouldn't. However, she did offer me a consolation HJ because I made her feel good & she didn't wantto stick me with blue balls. I was able with some begging to get her to let me get a taste of her juice by sticking my finger in a couple times & sucking the dew off of it. It was hot & wet. I should've tried harder. We had originally agreed to. 75 for the photos but even though I didn't get FS I asked her how short of her down payment she was & she said $$$. So I gave her $.5 & told her maybe we could do it again & she could get the rest. We talked as I took her back to Kroger & she said had even though she had said no several times if I had just snatched her up she would've wore me out. I believe she was teasing but not sure. I asked her for her # but she said no because she said I really do love my man & you could be a lot of trouble for me. I tried going back to the lot & even offered a some grease to get her info but no such luck. She sort of looked like the pic of Jessie on here. I will try to post a couple pics on here if I can find the memory card. I hid it so the other half wouldn't come across it & damn if I cannotlocate it in any ofthe usual places, About half afraidvthe other half may have foundit & put it away without cheking it.
Do not make me stop this fucking car!
[blue]I had a session scheduled tonight with a really good provider.
[url]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Silvana_4781-8446_12129.htm[/url]
And I had to cancel. Why you may ask, well I'll tell you. Because I had to go through [b]EVERY FUCKING THREAD IN THIS FUCKING CITY AND PUT AN END TO THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT THAT'S WHY! [/b] And now gents I am well and truly pissed off. I moved all the stupid shit to.
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10712-Tips-Tricks-Arguing-and-Bullshit[/url]
And that is where it best be in the future.
I'm posting this in all the affected threads and let me tell you what will happen to the next person that starts this shit again. I won't ban them, I'm going to change their user title to douchebag and I'm going to edit every single fucking post that comes from their fucking account or any IP that has every been used on their account (good luck creating an alias) to say how much they enjoy sucking a trannies cock. All you will be able to say on this board until the end of fucking time or the internet, whichever comes first, will be how much you enjoy sucking cock, or taking it up the ass in the shower at prison.
Try me and see if I'm fucking around.
Now get back to the fucking pussy, there has been enough douchbaggery here that every fucking punanni in Knox should be clean as a fucking whistle.
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Yeah, it was one of those things
[QUOTE=TSantos;1780193]I know one very well known provider that would do it but doubt you would want her after what she gave me. Dude be careful out there. Its not worth it.[/QUOTE]I was feeling brave & in a funky mood. SO is out of town. However, after a night ofbthinking about it not as brave as I thought I was.
Time to practice the good doctor's UTR tips
I ran across this gem while trying to find ways of making my UTR discovery much more efficient and effective (a must with all of the heat as of late). This should probably be in the "Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit" thread now that it's available. It is truly time to try to practice what the good doctor preaches. Thanks Doc!
Happy Hunting, Milfman865.
[QUOTE=Dr Holiday; 1322309]A non-pro. Single moms short on rent, no money for kids Christmas, student no tuition for next semester waitresses, etc. Etc.
Knoxville is the best place ever for UTR. Don't know how the pros make any cash.
Tips? Hummm.
Well first rule of fight club. Is never talk about fight club. Never bring up chats like this. Never admit to being with a pro or doing it for cash. Your a virgin in the deal. Just like they are. Ha. Never done anything like this before. Facilitate the fantasy denial.
Second, they aren't doing it for money. Total denial. So you are just HELPING them a bit. Don't ever link the help to any act. Help them maintain the denial. You both know both are lying. Let it be.
Third, not as quick an easy as just calling a BP girl etc. Takes a bit more time. Remember they aren't pros. More skittish. Usually takes more time to get to know you before they relax. Remember they have never done this for money and aren't now either (even while your dick is their mouth).
Fourth, most time if you been hanging in the bar etc. They are comfortable. They will make the approach. As mentioned below, the direct approach will most times get awkward rejection (they aren't doing this for money remember). So many time if they are comfortable, they will start about how hard it is to get money for kids for Christmas etc. They'll say tonight has been so slow. Not making anything. You say something like, maybe I could help. Remember your "helping" not doing them for $$$. They don't do that. LOL.
Fifth, make a joke of it. Many times with the local strippers you make a direct approach in a club. Get immediate rejection for take out. Even from the one that does it the most. They ask you for a dance. Say something in a joking voice " aww I'm more a a private party guy". Amazing how fast take out gets offered.
Look right at the waitress you been flirting with, hear the sob story of evil boy friend and need rent. Jokingly say. You need rich sugardaddy. Amazing who will respond.
One approached me last week. I thought SHE was joking when she said. Well its Christmas season time to put out for the family. Took me a second. She was serious. Damn nice fun this morning before work. The day goes so much better when start off like that.
Sixth, UTR types are usually way more expensive than I see listed here. You try to barter go for cheap. Most times you will be kicked aside. They will get offended on the spot. Remember you are helping them. Not renting some pussy. Usually what the UTR types need costs more, rent, power / phone bill, tuition etc. Not always true. My friend got the neighbor for a $15 prescription she couldn't pay for. I go for the very high end, very expensive, young and drop dead gorgeous. But that's just me. I'm a wus. Scared of the low end stuff.
Sixth, its a loan. Offer to loan it to them. You know help facilitate the denial. You know and she knows you'll never see the money again. Just having fun together. The "loan" not related at all.
One of my favorites, a hot girl who was a personal trainer called me at work, said,"You know I dreamed I fucked a doctor last night. I immediately said." In that case see you at my place in 30min". Damn near screwed me to death for the phone bill. Violent orgasms out of her. Serious fun rough sex. Crazy as loon. But damn I miss her. 10/10 on looks and 15/10 on performance. LOL.
Second best. Three "dancers" were sitting a talking about the last time they had sex. I was buying them drinks I said, ' well its been six months for me (big lie, LOL). One of them actually believed me and felt sorry for me and came over for lunch the next day. Mercy fuck. LOL. Took $300 while actually saying,"You know its not about the money". I say," I know honey."Of course not " (RIGHT, hah). Tall gorgeous 21 yo blond.
Started the morning with the waitress (21 gorgeous) , lunch with the UT grad student followed by afternoon delight. Just. Got a call from a bartender. She directly said I need a sugardaddy. Heading up north knox. She's desert after she gets off shift.
Knoxville is the very best UTR spot ever. Just got to play the game right. Its an expensive game but.
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Quality is amazing. Between now and end of January. Not joking. They will wear me out.[/QUOTE]
Networking: very good UTR tip
Many UTR "dates" been arranged by female friends. They tell me that their friend doesn't have $$ for something for the kid, rent etc. They often will facilitate the introduction. Obviously the two females discuss whats going to go down (pun intended, LOL). But won't really discuss it with us directly. Many a threesome has resulted by this type of "net working". Both come. (but not for the $$ LOL). They are doing me a "favor", one is doing the other a "favor", and the other one is doing her a "favor" by coming to see me. Had one of the "friends" in need say to me. She was just their doing a favor for the other girl. Yah and I'm a virgin too. Just like you are. Nobody is doing anything for $$$ of course. Yah right. LOL. But don't disturb the fantasy. They're lying. Your lying. Give them the denial.
BTW, single mom is a very hard and expensive job. So if your looking for UTR. Great success rates with single moms.
In the example, notice that they all initially say,"I would never do anything like that". Denial. So always facilitate that denial. Give them some distance between the act and the $$.
Those mongers that talk to me that failed at take out. Even with ones I know go all the time. Why did the they fail? Too direct approach every time. They walked in. Immediately said "do you do take out". Immediately got answered,"I would never do that for $$. Second, highest cause of UTR attempt failure. Too cheap. IMO. For example, single moms need rent, clothes for kids, car payment etc.
Please define / expand "awkward".
[QUOTE=MikeHunt865;1785462]Ok, saw Bhunny, she was amazing! But BC situation was awkward as am I probably won't repeat. All others may feel different but as for myself, not repeating. Stay classy Kville.[/QUOTE]With not knowing the details. Others can't really evaluate if to see her. This is the first less than positive comment. Awkward and won't repeat pretty severe.
So expand on why you won't repeat.
Is this a fair criticism?
I know everyone is entitled to their own likes and dislikes, but is this fair to BH? How many providers out their give BBBJ and BBCIM and then turn around and see another guy? Maybe it would be better to stick with providers that can be trusted to clean up between appointments. Otherwise, this whole hobby can be described as gross, right?
[QUOTE=MountainEagle; 1787351]One of the reasons is that sticking your tongue in random, various and multiple *holes and then french kissing everyone else next in line is really gross when you think about it.
After thinking about it I won't repeat either.[/QUOTE]
There is another strategy
[QUOTE=Mundane; 1789600]Although there seems to be a lot of concern about the NSA and privacy, I am much more concerned about the more concerted effort by LEO to entrap, arrest and humiliate mongers. We all know the dangers of picking up a SW. It's in the open, it's obvious what is going on. It's a risk some are willing to take (and some even seem to thrive on the danger as part of the thrill of the experience) , while others of us wish to be more careful in our adventures out of fear of trouble with our family or jobs. For some of us, BP and CL have been the primary tools to access the hobby, and because of shared information on this site, we have felt a sense of security going to "well-reviewed" and "safe" girls that trusted members have shared.
With increased focus by LEO on capturing mongers, I fear these "well reviewed" and "safe" girls might not be as safe as they once were. If they advertise on BP or CL consistently, then they are definitely on the LEO radar. Many of these ladies do not require screening (and let's face it, how hard would it be for LEO to fake a screening anyway). All it would take is one arrest, with the threat of serious jail time, for one of these girls to turn on us.
Now, I know what you're thinking: NO WAY would my "all time favorite," that sweet girl I've seen a dozen (or more) times and have shared pillow talk about life and family, job, etc, ever, EVER turn me in. Yeah, and she really, really loves you. And you're the only guy she sees. And even if she sees other guys, you're the only one who makes her orgasm. Let's not live in a dream world! When it comes down to them or us, they are going to cut a deal. I don't blame them, I'd do the same thing! They aren't family, they aren't our girlfriends, they are nice girls who are trying to make some extra money (maybe to support their kids). If they face jail time or freedom. You had better damn well believe they are going to choose freedom twice every day and three times on Sunday.
For me, this probably means the end of my mongering days. If I can find a truly UTR gal who hasn't been exposed to the open web, I might partake, but otherwise, I will not be taking the higher risk of humiliating my family by seeing my photo and name spread across the local news. I'll stick around the site and make comments occasionally, but for now my minimal mongering will be dialed down to zero. Good luck to you all, and be safe. I hope I never see your faces.[/QUOTE]You could always just make sure that the girls you see have other clients who work for Uncle Leo. That's worked for me in the past. Christina (unfortunately now retired) used to always get a heads-up from her friends on the force and switch locales before busts were scheduled:)
FYI: take out from dancers
Look around the sites. The local dancers advertisements out there currently thick as fleas on a Tennessee hound. They were available before but lots of them recently upped to above the radar status. They have been out and about in local watering holes. Saw two of them out on threesome take out with one of you just recently. Saw a number of others on the hunt in other places too.
Just so you know, some above the radar appearance is due to can't make $$$ in clubs as business is poor. But some of them have a return of serious problems with illicit chemicals too. Seems to be a recent outbreak of that among dancers as their financial fortunes got worse. Or its the other way around. So if that bugs you..FYI is all.
Pickings are good though.
Dancer takeout like shooting fish in a barrel right now
[QUOTE=Dr Holiday;1793938]Pickings are good though.[/QUOTE]The Good Doc's assessment is spot on. Pick any club, the story is the same. Dancer takeout is like shooting fish in a barrel right now. For example, went to a strip club on Saturday, June 15th and at 1 a. M, the club had less than 10 patrons and twice as many girls. Girls aren't making enough to cover their bar fee, gas, and a babysitter. Sob stories about furniture getting repo'd, utilities cut off, car payments behind, and rent still due. Too many dancers texting me requesting that I forgo the club and book some quality time with them instead since they're more fun one-on-one. A few said that they would never do that a few months ago. With little effort, you can associate gal with her workplace, so you can visit beforehand if you'd like to see the goods. You'll likely be offered before you get to your seat; no tips needed for that since it's a motor skill. Happy Hunting, Milfman865