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Been trying the same thing always get hit with a depoait

[QUOTE=VAJimbo;5091809]I found her on Social media, IG and SnapChat, they are selling Pics, videos and "Meet ups".

Yes she and her friends look to good to be true for the most part.

Figure if she does not want a "deposit" or a small one I will see what happens, might be taking one for the team but someone has to do it sometimes.

Be safe and have fun.[/QUOTE].

Deposits are obviously the new way of getting something for nothing. It's pretty easy money on the poster's part. I'd also question if many of those requesting deposits are actually providers, my hunch is no. Figure if 1 out of 10 bites on depositing, they could potentially net several hundred a day. Decent scam overall, unfortunately if mongers continue to fall for it, they will continue doing it.

[QUOTE=DtForMe;5092029]Been trying the same thing always get hit with a depoait

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Hey there dreamers,

This one seems new to the area:

[URL]https://chesapeake.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/hello-available-for-incall-pls/625097617938[/URL]

Has anyone taken the plunge? I have been chatting with her via text but haven't set anything up. I may TOFTT but would love to find out any info before I dream.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=JjMoore483;5054273]Thanks man, I appreciate the info.[/QUOTE]Given that you're looking for one who'll hang out for a while and not be in any rush, just make it clear that the first meeting is no expectations, just dinner and conversation to see if you have details to discuss. The straight up escorts won't do that, because they don't want to waste the time, but you're not looking for a regular escort if you're looking for one who'll hang out for a while. Decent SBs will absolutely take that, and that will weed out the flakes and the scammers who won't show up for dinner.

Treat it exactly like a normal date, except that if you get along with her, you can start discussing your budget (not specifically what's expected, just your budget per meet.) If she says she wants an allowance, say you're open to that if things work out for a while, but NEVER do an allowance with a new girl. It'll usually be the last you see of them. (It's usually good to keep them on a pay per meet for a long while until you have a very reliable schedule set up.) Be cool, not pushy, and find out if she's a travel baby, emotional baby, or financial baby (usually they're some kind of combination, and many prefer looking at it like that, because then they don't feel like escorts.) I NEVER discuss budget before the meet, and you need to kind of have some game, because you want to make it like "dating plus. " You're likely not someone she would pick up at a club, but when you turn out to be someone she can say "yeah, I'd be okay dating him for casual stuff, and hey, he'll pay me, too?" That's when you're good. Don't try to flash your income at her, or brag, just casually treat her better than the guys her age do, without making any kind of a big deal about it.

If you're both on the same page for allowance (and I've seen those numbers going up like crazy nowadays. I used to get plenty at 100 per meet, with girl next door types. I can still find 150 hotties who are solid 9's, but without the warm after-cuddling that I think you're looking for (these are the non-GPS ones, and take some hunting.) For $300, you can get a solid 9 who will happily hang out, but I count those as too expensive, given my years of being spoiled by lower prices, though I did take one up on that when I was out of town pre-covid lockdowns.

Now, if you're both on the same page for price, HAVE A PLAN to be somewhere near a reasonable hotel and ask if she'd like to join you. This needs to be immediately as dinner is wrapping up, not some future next-time. You'd have to get the hotel, so budget for it. If you're lucky, she'll invite you back home instead. Don't make a big deal of it, either way, just consider it to be a nice bonus if she can host. You can see her more often, because less of your monthly budget goes to hotels. (I sometimes mention that during budget discussions if we're off a little in price, but she's willing to host.) If she's not ready to host the first time, but says she can do it next time, great, head for the hotel and don't stress. If she won't come to a hotel with you because she's "not ready", be cool about it, say no worries, maybe next time, thank her for a nice evening, and lose her number. (I've had those reach out later to try to talk, but I usually have marked their number in my phone with a "NO" notation, because I have never had a good long-term outcome on those, and the sex isn't as good as the ones who are ready to go on the first date.).

Treat her like a girlfriend, not a sl-t ALWAYS be reliable, and expect her to be equally reliable (don't put up with the flakes,) and expect that, at some point, you're going to get some emergency call from her, whether you're still seeing her or not, and it's up to you if you help her out of whatever jam she's in. Never expect that you'll get paid back for those. It's part of the cost of the game, and it's optional (sugar alimony!) If the emergency ever exceeds what you see as the value you're getting for her, just be sympathetic, but unable to help this time.

However, no matter what, maintain operational security. Don't tell her your actual job, or your real name, and try to avoid letting her see your car, if you can (definitely don't have your registration in the glove box if you do give her a ride, in case you have to step out.) You will find that you'll get better options if you don't need discretion (I. E. If you're not married,) and if you make it clear that you're not expecting exclusivity, so you don't want to be in her business, you just want to find out where your schedules overlap for regular meetings. Also be aware that you should not assume birth control is being used. I've been in the middle of activities and asked, and she's said things like "no, but it should be okay. " Yeah, skip that, and avoid actual alimony.

Oh, and NO money in advance for meetings. I always get a pack of those blank greeting cards, something nice looking, and write up a little personal thank you message about how nice it was to see her (yes, I have a pen that I bring along specifically for that, and I've been known to write them in the bathroom of a hotel room,) and have the cash tucked away in the card. When you get to the location, after you've gotten busy, drop the card off in her purse, pretending to be subtle, but make sure she can see you, so she won't stress. Classy is the goal here. You're looking to maintain the illusion of an actual relationship, and, for what it's worth, it'll be one, just not traditional, and not usually with real emotional depth. (That changes sometimes, but it's rare. One of my first SBs from 20 years ago just called me a couple of months ago, not for any emergency, but because she was lonely and we saw each other on and off for years. Time hasn't been kind to her, but there's something nice about a familiar lover who knows you, and doesn't expect more than a dalliance outside of her new-ish marriage. Earlier this year, a second one who I used to see a couple of years back asked me to come visit for a week, a month after she recovered from a really nasty case of COVID, and she just wanted to be taken out to dinners and to an overpriced couples massage place, but, otherwise, I spent the week in her apartment, and even wound up having dinner with her and one of her adult children. I don't hear from most of them, though, and it's a whole lot of work to maintain SB relationships, as opposed to just getting whatever escort is on "draft" at the time.).

Honestly, if you're looking for good SB info, my favorite source of that was the Richmond SB forum, especially in the archived posts, and I still prefer it to the VB forum, because I think we encourage too much GPS and escort-thinking over here. Also, SB sites (including STG) have kind of turned more to escort-mode rather than traditional mode, from what I've seen in the VB forum, but I know for a fact that there are still traditional babies around. Expect to put in a LOT more work for someone who will hang around for 4 hours and touch base with you with sweet little texts throughout the week, and expect to plan little outings and getaways if that's what she's up for. (I've known a couple who were purely travel babies. Take them on trips, cover their expenses, and they were happy. They'll NEVER object to extra pocket money, too, but there are more than you'd expect who would really rather you just let them pick out something nice at a shop, instead of actually getting paid in cash. NOTE: these are NOT the ones that are generally discussed like escorts on the VB forum.).

Good luck. Be aware that it does take a ton of messages and filtering to find a decent one that'll work out for the above, but I think it's worth the effort, on a limited basis. Nowadays, I'm more likely to just find something easier, but sometimes, like the above examples, I'm reminded of why I put in that time.

Now, I'm bracing for the laughter that will come from the VB SB forum regulars who will think I'm putting in way too much effort into what's effectively a regular escort, but, really, the straight out escorts weren't what I was looking for when I was hunting SBs.

[QUOTE=Espo123;5053165]Tried to PM you but your inbox was full. How did you weed out the scammers, and all of them? Always wanted to try SA.[/QUOTE]Shoot, I replied to the wrong post, but the post of mine that immediately precedes this one was supposed to be a reply to your question.

Laughter? Hell, that information is GOLD, especially for someone like myself that's bored with the escort game and wants a little something more. Many thanks.

[QUOTE=Grumpyinva;5094031]Now, I'm bracing for the laughter that will come from the VB SB forum regulars who will think I'm putting in way too much effort into what's effectively a regular escort, but, really, the straight out escorts weren't what I was looking for when I was hunting SBs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ZukRider;5094793]Laughter? Hell, that information is GOLD, especially for someone like myself that's bored with the escort game and wants a little something more. Many thanks.[/QUOTE]Hope it helps. To put it in perspective, though, expect to send out a LOT of messages, several weeks of hunting, and a few "meh" first dates (like comparable to normal online dating) before you'll get a good match. The difference is these will cost more than your vanilla dating options, and should be a helluva lot prettier, and completely NSA.

Serious about the Richmond SB archives, though. They link to a TON of really good discussions. Also, I was just checking that to get a link for it here, and found that HollywoodGuy (who I'd assumed would have been out of the game by now,) has his own forums for discussion, which is fantastic. He's in Cali, but was a Richmond SB discussion guru.

Here's a handy link to the archived forum:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ/page2[/URL]

I'll admit, I'm hoping more folks start checking into this, because, in general, SB prices aren't going up, but there are folks who are overpaying for the ease of pulling pros from SA, but SB / SD stuff is a different game from regular escorts, even if you wind up with a whole lot of escorts signing up as SBs. (Those aren't going to be the ones you want, if you're looking for longer hangouts and more intimacy, though.).

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Grumpyinva;5094824]
Here's a handy link to the archived forum:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ/page2[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Just noticed that the links in the messages there won't work because they go to [URL]usasexguide.info[/URL] instead of [URL]usasexguide.nl[/URL] . Just click on them, and edit it to ". Nl" in your browser, and you're fine, though, since the. Info site isn't up anymore.

Just wondering how you guys handle carplay? Haven't done that since I dealt with SWs and I've got to say that it was pretty sketchy trying to find a safe discrete spot. I'm not coordinated or skilled enough to get anything accomplished while driving and don't really want to end up in an incident on the news, pants down with a hooker in the front seat. LOL. I'm not sure I'm willing to do any carplay during this busy season, but was wondering how you guys handled that. I've imagined that one or two of these girls might have you pull into a private driveway, hop in, do the deed, hop out, back out the driveway and be on your merry way. But I'm not sure that's realistic or any less discrete. PM me if you don't want to openly share.

[QUOTE=Werve22;5097035]Just wondering how you guys handle carplay? Haven't done that since I dealt with SWs and I've got to say that it was pretty sketchy trying to find a safe discrete spot. I'm not coordinated or skilled enough to get anything accomplished while driving and don't really want to end up in an incident on the news, pants down with a hooker in the front seat. LOL. I'm not sure I'm willing to do any carplay during this busy season, but was wondering how you guys handled that. I've imagined that one or two of these girls might have you pull into a private driveway, hop in, do the deed, hop out, back out the driveway and be on your merry way. But I'm not sure that's realistic or any less discrete. PM me if you don't want to openly share.[/QUOTE]Never done it for the same reasons you list. Plus I'm not sure I can perform under pressure in a car. I assume certain types of cars make it easier. [NOPARSE]Big SUV vs. small import[/NOPARSE].

[QUOTE=MisterNova;5097126]Never done it for the same reasons you list. Plus I'm not sure I can perform under pressure in a car. I assume certain types of cars make it easier. [NOPARSE]Big SUV vs. small import[/NOPARSE].[/QUOTE]A hotel parking lot or office building parking lot have always worked for me. Tinted rear windows are also a must.

[QUOTE=Werve22;5097035]Just wondering how you guys handle carplay? Haven't done that since I dealt with SWs and I've got to say that it was pretty sketchy trying to find a safe discrete spot. I'm not coordinated or skilled enough to get anything accomplished while driving and don't really want to end up in an incident on the news, pants down with a hooker in the front seat. LOL. I'm not sure I'm willing to do any carplay during this busy season, but was wondering how you guys handled that. I've imagined that one or two of these girls might have you pull into a private driveway, hop in, do the deed, hop out, back out the driveway and be on your merry way. But I'm not sure that's realistic or any less discrete. PM me if you don't want to openly share.[/QUOTE]Only done carplay once around here, a lot of providers don't do it it seems. In the last state I was in it was pretty common. Just meet them at night and know the area, or at least have a GPS. Usual places I'd go to in my last state were mall parking lots or very secluded alleys or driveways.

Good rule of thumb is to ask the provider if they know the area and what they would recommend when you pick them up.

I was never keen on it since yeah you have to get creative with carplay but it was always about not a good spot. Until about 7 weeks ago I was introduced to probably the sweetest spot I have known. And it is not too far from Jefferson in NN. Rows upon rows of abandoned loading docks and their storage facilities. All abandoned. And down a dirt road. In NN of all places. Been out a couple times at night and it is straight spooky but fun out there.

[QUOTE=MisterNova;5097126]Never done it for the same reasons you list. Plus I'm not sure I can perform under pressure in a car. I assume certain types of cars make it easier. [NOPARSE]Big SUV vs. small import[/NOPARSE].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DonScarlet;5097426]I was never keen on it since yeah you have to get creative with carplay but it was always about not a good spot. Until about 7 weeks ago I was introduced to probably the sweetest spot I have known. And it is not too far from Jefferson in NN. Rows upon rows of abandoned loading docks and their storage facilities. All abandoned. And down a dirt road. In NN of all places. Been out a couple times at night and it is straight spooky but fun out there.[/QUOTE]That's funny, I just answered a newbie's carplay question in the NN forum. Here's the link:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3953-Escort-Reports&p=5098368[/URL]#post5098368.

DonScarlet, I know exactly where you're talking about, and I've had some reasonable times, there, even in the daytime, including hopping out, climbing down, walking across the middle area, and heading over to an old chair that they used to have in front of one of the units. One concern I have is that I have ONCE, when heading into that spot, passed a police car who was patrolling there, while I had someone in the car with me. He didn't stop or harass me, but we just drove past him and we didn't turn down the rows. We got turned around and went elsewhere, and considered it a lucky miss. I don't like that place at night. Too hard for operational security, with homeless folks potentially living there. I have a smaller (private parking lot) spot nearby that, that works great at nighttime, with dumpsters nearby and only one entrance, so that's where I usually go, now.

Hey fellas. Looking for recommendations for a good blow-and-go provider with an incall. BBBJ w / CIM preferred. Can't seem to find a reliable provider that offers these services. Chubby is ok but bbw doesn't do it for me. Might me like trying to find a unicorn nowadays. Chesapeake, Portsmouth, or Norfolk please.

Thanks.

W.