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[QUOTE=Reaper400;3007559]Fuck that, she can't figure out that if she spends a little more $ and gets a nicer room she would not have to worry about that shit? Especially if she washaving concerns about this maintence prick. She needs to offer the guy up a freebis while some hard core mother* are in waiting amd give the prick an inch of life beatdown.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TTY954;3007697]Will you be her beatdown guy? You have her number, offer your services. If you have any suggestions on 'nicer' places, I am sure she would listen. She is new to the area so maybe she can benefit from your knowledge. Help her.

Spend the afternoon with her, hear the stories of having to change places over and over due to stings, druggies, now the maintenance guy and see how you feel. Don't knock her while she is down. Put yourself in her shoes, find out what her expenses are outside of basic housing and food, then judge her. She has 3 bags of clothes and toothpaste, that is it. Their life isn't as simple as you think it is. I'll admit my eyes were opened today.

Not sure why you reacted so strongly. She isn't asking for a handout, she'll fuck you for the money.[/QUOTE]Speaking as a former Captain, these girls are in this line of work for a reason. Typically a felony that makes getting a straight job hard -- but not impossible. One provider, who has a spotless reputation on our board, was giving me some advice while I was trying to captain this "poor, mixed-up, good girl". She told me she herself has pulled every rotten, lying trick in the book at one time or another. I'd bet nearly every monger here believes this provider is not on any hard drugs. But I've seen her do plenty and she has a nice stash of needles. I haven't seen her in over a year but I still think very highly of her. But it *really* opened my eyes. You absolutely cannot believe anything these girls tell you because more than most of the time it's just a story. Are some of them true? Sure. But if they were clean and working a straight job then none of this shit would happen to them.

The girl I captained: I spent a very healthy chunk of change for detox and rehab - she relapsed the day she left rehab. She's been thru 4-5 *more* detoxes since then and relapsed every time. She's in her early 20's and by her own count has been to detox about 20 times. I spoke to her over a month ago and now I can clearly see how she's still a manipulative addict, not committed to getting clean -- AND she's currently in a court ordered program and clean, but her brain is still an addict's brain. Drugs are hell, but until they decide to change their life there's nothing anyone can do. It starts from within. Until then they'll do / say anything and everything, use their family, use their friends, use YOU, all to chase their drug of choice.

You just can't trust their word because they're so good at manipulating people.

My. 02.

Saw Jamie last night, something about her drives me wild I love her body type. I recommend.

Mr Brookguard writes...Drugs are hell, but until they decide to change their life there's nothing anyone can do. It starts from within. Until then they'll do / say anything and everything, use their family, use their friends, use YOU, all to chase their drug of choice.

You just can't trust their word because they're so good at manipulating people.

My. 02.

My opinion on this crazy world.

So true what Mr Brookguard mentions. Most are on a merry- go- round they can't get off.

I got to know a sweet person that is in rehab now. Her third in three years. She was an accomplished pianist, a wonderful artist, she was intelligent, wanted to study art in college but life took a turn when couple of fam members died of drug OD and a car accident. She decided to wipe her memory by getting to the needle. Most are not strong willed. I've found most of these girls are in emotional trouble. If you take the time to listen and chat with them, they will tell you that they been molested at early age by their daddys, uncle, brothers, neighbors on and on. They had their mommies whoring or put them to work for drugs and to put food on the table, or they're an emotional wreak with someone getting killed or died in their fam and can't deal with the hurt. I'm not trying to excuse their habits or condone it. Hell. We are all addicts.

Just like drugs, don't we want the next fix. I do. I'm thinking this is my last adventure, my absolute last visit then I get horny, I want to see what's new out there, so I peruse the BP read the reviews, start getting my brain in a frenzy to find the next new best. Ok I found my next best, I'll make her a reg. Visit a few times maybe more, but again your thinking what else is out there? I'm addicted to pretty girls, nice shapely bodies and the good times. Yes, I admit I'm an addict chasing the next best and spending way too much. Do I need help / intervention. Probably, do I want to stop. NO Just like a drug addict. Can I stop. Prob. When money runs out.

Like an addict, I am also on a merry-go-round. I'm afraid to jump off to land on solid ground. I might miss the next thrill ride. For many of these girls this world is all they know how to survive. Most are good people. If they're good to you then be good back. We are feeding each others addictions. Thanks for reading.

[QUOTE=Riley4511;3008012]Mr Brookguard writes...Drugs are hell, but until they decide to change their life there's nothing anyone can do. It starts from within. Until then they'll do / say anything and everything, use their family, use their friends, use YOU, all to chase their drug of choice.

You just can't trust their word because they're so good at manipulating people.

My. 02.

My opinion on this crazy world.

Hell. We are all addicts.

Just like drugs, don't we want the next fix. I do. I'm thinking this is my last adventure, my absolute last visit then I get horny, I want to see what's new out there, so I peruse the BP read the reviews, start getting my brain in a frenzy to find the next new best. Ok I found my next best, I'll make her a reg. Visit a few times maybe more, but again your thinking what else is out there? I'm addicted to pretty girls, nice shapely bodies and the good times. Yes, I admit I'm an addict chasing the next best and spending way too much. Do I need help / intervention. Probably, do I want to stop. NO Just like a drug addict. Can I stop. Prob. When money runs out.

Like an addict, I am also on a merry-go-round. I'm afraid to jump off to land on solid ground. I might miss the next thrill ride. For many of these girls this world is all they know how to survive. Most are good people. If they're good to you then be good back. We are feeding each others addictions. Thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]That right there makes you think a bit. Thanks for putting that in writing. I guess I knew that about myself, but could deny it because I never said it. Now that I read it. It really hits home.

[QUOTE=Reaper400;3007781]I didn't mean to give the impression she deserved it. The maintence prick is the o e that deserves somethig, a fucking ass beating.

It sets me off when these fucks take advantage of girls like her. My point was mors that her not being one who runs for the needle right after the appt, she should be levelheaded enoug to manage risk.

All reports confirm your assertion of her service and attitude. I have not met her yet. Almost did but her ask was out of range. Maybe I will get the chance sometime.[/QUOTE]Her problem is she is a small town girl from the sticks trying to get used to living around here, and dealing with the thugs and lowlifes and no-tel life. She's only been doing this about what, three months? She only has one real high-school friend in the area. She is so stereotypical they could have made a TV movie about her life. She's a really cool girl, and needs to get a waitressing job, this life she is in will just wear her out. When I met her she hadn't eaten in a long while due to stress. But when I took her out, she only ordered a Dr Pepper and an appetizer. She was too embarrassed to get anything expensive. She knows she needs to get an apartment, and was saving up for that. Now she doesn't even have a drivers license, and has to build her cash reserves all up again. She'll be alright as long as she can hang onto this room and see more than one guy a day. Hanging onto rooms seems to be a real challenge in this lifestyle, no matter what place you stay at.

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[QUOTE=OldEnuf0187;3007702]Well she mentioned to me that she was thinking about returning. Always a bit hard to know for how long, but here she is men! For all the newbies she is someone you should meet.

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[QUOTE=HipHopAnonymou;3006824]Like Bigfoot or an alien encounter this women was truly one hell of a challenge to pin down. Kaiko was on my radar for a while and with the limited reviews out there (all positive) I decided to go for it once I saw an active ad. Turns out that was last night, I made the call and she picked up and we had a very nice conversation before we even arranged a meeting. I make my way over to this side of the bay and I'm glad to say that the women is indeed the same one in the ad.

First and foremost she has that MILF look I so do enjoy, I want to say early 30's, Kaiko was all dolled up and wearing some very sexy lingerie. We dealt with donation and we had great small talk. She defenatly not all business, she's really cool once you get to know her, full of energy, and has those GFE elements. Finally we start exploring each other, and mates if you're a big tits lover you're going to love these man-made bouncing Betty's. Great ass to boot, Kaiko went down on me first she does do a hybrid BBBJ / CBJ. Next I returned the favor, no smell, freshly showered, and she responds very well. Finally we go mish, doggy, and finally she tops and I bust a nut inside cover. Tight pussy got me to stay instead, we cleaned up talked a bit more and I bounced.

Overall she's really a gem and a tough one to catch, but so freaking worth it. She does remind me of Sophia who works over in south Tampa. Kaiko's got my seal of approval one of the best I've had in a while. Hit her up and be safe gents.

[URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/bustypetite-living-doll-100real-picsno-bait-and-switch-great-reviews/17559929[/URL][/QUOTE]One review said the photos are 15 years old. Possible?

[QUOTE=TTY954;3008014]That right there makes you think a bit. Thanks for putting that in writing. I guess I knew that about myself, but could deny it because I never said it. Now that I read it. It really hits home.[/QUOTE]Very well said. I am married to an incredible woman. Because of my narcissism I fail to see that most of the time. I constantly do what is good for me at the very moment. Through counseling and the fact that someday I will destroy my life if I don't stop I have made it a point to give up the hobby. I do still read the form daily as a way of testing myself but realizing I cannot or will not act on my addiction. I am of the opinion that the addiction could be drugs, alcohol, or prostitutes but there is no way to judge the severity or danger. An addict is an addict. And the only way to cure an addiction is to face it and not let it control your life any longer. That is what I have chosen. I wish you all the best of luck in treating your addiction and I hope I can stay true to my cause and provide a better life for myself and my family.

[QUOTE=TTY954;3008078]One review said the photos are 15 years old. Possible?[/QUOTE]I now what review you speak of, I'm pretty sure that fool forgot his glasses that day. I'm pretty sure Kaiko is in her mid 30's, and she does wear makeup. Though it wasn't so overbearing it looked really nice and the photos are a good representation of what she actually looks like.

[QUOTE=RedBird6969;3008097]Very well said. I am married to an incredible woman...I wish you all the best of luck in treating your addiction and I hope I can stay true to my cause and provide a better life for myself and my family.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TTY954;3008019]Her problem is she is a small town girl from the sticks trying to get used to living around here...seems to be a real challenge in this lifestyle, no matter what place you stay at.[/QUOTE]ReBird my heart goes out to you man, keep fighting that good fight. I know enough about myself why I partake in this habit and try my best not to see girl after girl like in the early days. I almost made myself broke until I finally got a grip on it. Moderation is really the key, fighting those urges with something else instead of just ignoring it. I can honestly say I'm a borderline addict to this but at least I'm willing to admit it, I'm not hurting anyone, and I would like to "stop" one day but it's easier said then done. I like to think that addiction is simply someone abusing their easy access to temporary happiness. When all we have to do is just show some paper for a good time, hell its no wonder its a hard habit to break. I really think that people can change its just that you can't change people.

As for Veronica and the rest like her. They do this first and foremost because the amount of paper they can bring in on a single day. It blows any 9-5 you can get without a college degree. Part two is what they do with it, and many go for their candy of choice, once the escape ends the cycle repeats. I really want to believe that not every single chick is a damn addict and some really do it just for the paper. Regardless we have a case like hers where some piece of shite decides to take advantage and takes her money instead of making his own. She didn't deserve it, habit goers who get robbed by pimps, BF, and girls don't deserve it but it happens. Its not an easier life that anybody can just be apart of and it gives big rewards with a lot of risk. I really hope that Veronica can get back on her feet when I meet her she was really cool soft spoken woman who did a great job, I would love to help but unfortunately I don't make that kind of paper yet.

For me this is also an addiction where I take risks that make little sense. If I would get busted my life would come tumbling down quickly. I truly do love to see when a girl says that she is done with this life and escapes. I really get pissed off in general when people indicate that someone deserves it. Its their own fault that they are druggies. That is total bullshit. On top of it this brilliant state offers rehab for people that have money only. So even if these girls wanted to try to break the cycle they have no resources to help them. I do not understand why this country is getting more and more inhumane. This hobby is heartbreaking seeing these girls and I do feel guilty in participating.

For me this addiction is very much like drugs. A cycle of emotions. 1) Total high when with the girls. 2) A major crash afterwords going that was a stupid thing to be doing risking so much for just 30 minutes of bliss. 3) A craving and urge to go back to step 1 and repeat the cycle.

I can force my self to stop until my stress levels elevate and than I am out of control and back in the cycle.

O well, every one out there take care and stay safe. Try to treat these girls with the respect that all people deserve.

DrJohn.

[QUOTE=Riley4511;3008012]

We are all addicts.

Just like drugs, don't we want the next fix. I do. I'm thinking this is my last adventure, my absolute last visit then I get horny, I want to see what's new out there, so I peruse the BP read the reviews, start getting my brain in a frenzy to find the next new best. Ok I found my next best, I'll make her a reg. Visit a few times maybe more, but again your thinking what else is out there? I'm addicted to pretty girls, nice shapely bodies and the good times. Yes, I admit I'm an addict chasing the next best and spending way too much. Do I need help / intervention. Probably, do I want to stop. NO Just like a drug addict. Can I stop. Prob. When money runs out.

Like an addict, I am also on a merry-go-round. I'm afraid to jump off to land on solid ground. I might miss the next thrill ride. For many of these girls this world is all they know how to survive. Most are good people. If they're good to you then be good back. We are feeding each others addictions. Thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]This is probably true for most of us here. For the rest, denial is a symptom of addiction.

It's not reasonable behavior to risk what you have, even if it's just good health, for the temporary thrill of sex with someone you most likely will never see again. Yet here we are, and failing to understand the problems that others addictions cause them is just irrational.

[QUOTE=TTY954;3007697]Will you be her beatdown guy? You have her number, offer your services. If you have any suggestions on 'nicer' places, I am sure she would listen. She is new to the area so maybe she can benefit from your knowledge. Help her.

Spend the afternoon with her, hear the stories of having to change places over and over due to stings, druggies, now the maintenance guy and see how you feel. Don't knock her while she is down. Put yourself in her shoes, find out what her expenses are outside of basic housing and food, then judge her. She has 3 bags of clothes and toothpaste, that is it. Their life isn't as simple as i think it is. I'll admit my eyes were opened today.

Not sure why you reacted so strongly. She isn't asking for a handout, she'll fuck you for the money.[/QUOTE]Wow dude, way to misread a post. Again, I am not judging her or whatever else. Being in the hobby for quite some time I have seen it all. Each ones situation is different. I know first band what many of them are faced with.

My my point on the hotel ect was only in reference to the assumption that she has a level head and can think through it a bit unlike the ones with the. Eedle hanging out of their arm LOL.

Regarding hotels, most know the differnce. A hotel which has interoier acess usually is much safer and a little nicer. Seems like a lot of them stay in hotels which are more high risk.

I don't know her story but seems odd that a girl from a small town with one friend and little to her name endz up selling ass in shithole pinellas co. Something missing from the story.

My strong reaction was regarding the pos maint prick trying to take advantage and ripping her off. He needs a beatdown. I carry a firearm so I avoid situatiins I that could escalate. Otherwise I would sit the prick down and give him 2 options, give her back what was stolen or I can call my brother who works for the FBI on a human trafficing taskforce (not true) and report him as a predator trying to pimp and enslave vuleranble girls. That would get his attention LOL.

As I stated previously, I took interest in her when she first showed up but her ask was more than I am willing to shell out, otherwise I would see her to help a bit. Riley hh is my max. Speaking of which I haven't seen her for a while, lrobably out to dial her up again soon.

[QUOTE=NoelG;3007615]Don't do it. Total rip off.[/QUOTE]Noel, you created an account and made one single post to say don't do it total rip off about this girl. How about you give us some specifics.

[QUOTE=RedBird6969;3008097]Very well said. I am married to an incredible woman. Because of my narcissism I fail to see that most of the time. I constantly do what is good for me at the very moment. Through counseling and the fact that someday I will destroy my life if I don't stop I have made it a point to give up the hobby. I do still read the form daily as a way of testing myself but realizing I cannot or will not act on my addiction. I am of the opinion that the addiction could be drugs, alcohol, or prostitutes but there is no way to judge the severity or danger. An addict is an addict. And the only way to cure an addiction is to face it and not let it control your life any longer. That is what I have chosen. I wish you all the best of luck in treating your addiction and I hope I can stay true to my cause and provide a better life for myself and my family.[/QUOTE]I wish you the best Mr Redbird on your recovery. Thanks for sharing. Allow me to interject another opinion. Keep in mind these lovelies are human beings, they bleed like you, they hurt like you, have all the emotions like you, but day after day they need to survive best way they know how. I can't start to imagine what its like to have a total stranger come into my room not knowing if they're going to rob you, threaten you, have their way with you or scam you with funny money. Is a good guy walking in or some stinky unkept slob that is aggressive? No wonder they're disguising their fears by getting drugged out. They are scared to death what might happened to them!