The Rat Trap

[QUOTE=OriginalSin;4841704]Whoever has the money has control. Demand is solely up to us and supply is plentiful. Do the math. I am getting the rates I want, from the girls I want and the services I want. Go figure.

Lately the GPS virus has gotten worse! I'm now hearing of 100-120 qv starting rate. I wonder why? Keep feeding that shit and it only gets worse. This is not complicated.[/QUOTE]Okay, I'll entertain this discussion one more time.

If you think "whomever has the money has control", then you're just another self-absorbed idiot. You have control over how "you" spend "your" money, that's it!

But all men are not created equal, and some of us just don't care what we have to pay to get what we want, because we can. Do we care if that makes it harder on some of the rest of you? Hell no, we are selfish bastards that only care about ourselves, and getting what "we" want. We could care less what is leftover for you.

Also, money alone does not make you King. Not all women are going to negotiate price with you, just because you have the money. You talk as if the women have nothing to barter with, when they have the Pussy (the real prize we are all after), which is also a very powerful negotiating tool.

You will say that Pussy is just Pussy, it's all the same. Well Benjamins are also just Benjamins, they all spend the same, and if the women don't get them from you, then they'll get them from someone else.

I'm happy for you that you seem to be getting exactly what you want, but so am I (and a lot of other guys). And no discussions we have here are going to change any of that for any of us, and that's why it's not really worth discussing. It's probably been discussed here since the inception of this board, and yet it's still being discussed today, because nothing has changed one iota by what has been said here.

Monger A goes to see provider and is a "nice guy". Monger B goes to same provider and is a "jerk". Provider now says to herself, if monger B comes back I'm charging him this much. If he takes it then good and if he don't then good, she doesn't need to see the jerk again. Monger A continues to get the same rate or better next time.

Sox.

[QUOTE=Pilot1011;4843502]Unfortunately this behavior by mongers is part of the problem. We are all different in so many ways, However when a guy is "paying" a provider for a session to just simply TALK, Then that defeats the entire purpose of this hobby. I could swap pics via the internet for free, and also talk to young hot chicks for free as well.

To each his own.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GeorgeMason;4845055]Okay, I'll entertain this discussion one more time.

If you think "whomever has the money has control", then you're just another self-absorbed idiot. You have control over how "you" spend "your" money, that's it!

But all men are not created equal, and some of us just don't care what we have to pay to get what we want, because we can. Do we care if that makes it harder on some of the rest of you? Hell no, we are selfish bastards that only care about ourselves, and getting what "we" want. We could care less what is leftover for you.

Also, money alone does not make you King. Not all women are going to negotiate price with you, just because you have the money. You talk as if the women have nothing to barter with, when they have the Pussy (the real prize we are all after), which is also a very powerful negotiating tool.

You will say that Pussy is just Pussy, it's all the same. Well Benjamins are also just Benjamins, they all spend the same, and if the women don't get them from you, then they'll get them from someone else.

I'm happy for you that you seem to be getting exactly what you want, but so am I (and a lot of other guys). And no discussions we have here are going to change any of that for any of us, and that's why it's not really worth discussing. It's probably been discussed here since the inception of this board, and yet it's still being discussed today, because nothing has changed one iota by what has been said here.[/QUOTE]But, but bro, I'm an Alpha and your all Beta's! And we're a brotherhood! Lets keep prices low so I can fuck the hot chicks you guys are fucking too!! Its not fair that can't afford to pay for upper echelon pussy and have to resort to the bottom shelf girls that are desperate to make a dollar and will tolerate my ugly, unlikable, and stupid ass! Please bro's. - Original Sin.

[QUOTE=GeorgeMason;4845055]Okay, I'll entertain this discussion one more time.
[/QUOTE]You just can't help your neanderthal tendencies can you? IDIOT!! And you're right, not all men are created equal. You're obviously of the feminine male species (Beta) full of estrogen and no testosterone, that's why you think by spending more (like an idiot) you think the girls will "Love" you or "respect" you! That's called a SUCKER, living in a SUCKERS world!! Keep dreaming loser! Not happening! Not going to keep this argument going any further. Stay on your lane. You said your peace, I said mine.

Of course I can predict that you won't be able to control your idiotic ways and will say something anyway. So I'll be proactive and say. YOU'RE WRONG FOOL!!

Have a nice day *****!!

[QUOTE=Bauce;4845744]But, but bro, I'm an Alpha and your all Beta's! And we're a brotherhood! Lets keep prices low so I can fuck the hot chicks you guys are fucking too!! Its not fair that can't afford to pay for upper echelon pussy and have to resort to the bottom shelf girls that are desperate to make a dollar and will tolerate my ugly, unlikable, and stupid ass! Please bro's. - Original Sin.[/QUOTE]Wow! Is that how you beg for pussy loser? He said "top shelf pussy" HAHAHAHHA!! Oh boy!! Obviously you need to pay more because your hoodrat ass don't have that game to get it any other way! While you spend more and pay for her room and meals, the other smart Alphas swoop right in for that discount!!

Keep doing what you're. Thanks for paying my way. Appreciate ya! SUCKER!! HAHAHAHA!!

Bauce. Loser since 1985.

[QUOTE=OriginalSin;4841704]I am getting the rates I want, from the girls I want and the services I want.

[/QUOTE]So why are you concerned about what the next guy pays for pussy? You sound like a nosy * to me, hahaha. Oh because you arent getting the girls you want for the prices you want so you are asking everybody else to pay less too. LOL, you fucking loser, get a real job Michael.

Lets deep dive into a case study sample 1.

[QUOTE=ILikeThem;4849436]Recently I posted a great review about her but things went downhill quick. This week and last week she was constantly asking for $. Cause things were tight. I've never had an issue with fronting her cause she always came through but this time we racked up almost 1 k and I only got one date. Then she promised me to make it up but kept asking for more money everyday without the date. She is now ghosting and not wanting to make it up. Don't know what's wrong with her but just wanted to give a heads up. I never had a problem with fronting money to her because she always came through. She made out huge from me and I d never expected that from her. Stupid on my part big time but lesson learned. I've Known her for years and she's never done this. It's a shame but I'll be moving forward[/QUOTE]Sample 2.

[QUOTE=Rudiger;4852552]SWs will 'almost' always go for the rip-off, if not immediately, at some point later when the monger lets his guard down.

But there is the rare unicorn exception, and she's not that hard to find, either. The test is if she gives a refund, even a partial one. 99.9% of the girls will never return any dough, regardless of any of the 'satisfaction guaranteed or your money back' bullshit they might say in an ad.

And the one exception I personally know of is Marcie, aka little Sexy Me. LSM is a super-skinny GILF but, if you can get past that, she's a true sweetheart who is so devoted to your having a good time that, if you don't, she'll return some of the donation. I've never, ever seen that by anyone else, before or since, no matter how trustworthy they try to get you believe.[/QUOTE]Sometimes there is rare exception.

At the end of the day, you're paying to rent a car. You want to pay $$ or. 4 for the same car is entirely up to you for the experience. Regardless, someone's driving it for "free" at a discount for their prior investment to "maintain" the car.

Yall should stop whining about one guy being a cheapskate and the other being a tool. It's just a fucking car; it can break down and screw you over at any given time if you don't feed it what it wants.

We're all in this to get it as good as we can get it for a reasonable price. Stop all this pricing bs, it's a dead-end.

[QUOTE=Bauce;4852594]So why are you concerned about what the next guy pays for pussy? You sound like a nosy * to me, hahaha. Oh because you arent getting the girls you want for the prices you want so you are asking everybody else to pay less too. LOL, you fucking loser, get a real job Michael.[/QUOTE]Who's Michael? I don't give a shit about who spends what. You jumped into this convo obviously not knowing what it was about! Obviously a banned member that was / is a douche bag! Git's always going to be gits! No idea about the game.

[QUOTE=Bauce;4852594]So why are you concerned about what the next guy pays for pussy? You sound like a nosy * to me, hahaha. Oh because you arent getting the girls you want for the prices you want so you are asking everybody else to pay less too. LOL, you fucking loser, get a real job Michael.[/QUOTE]Obviously this clown it's not.

No alpha male. More like a Omega male LMAO! No so-called alpha male would have to worry about rates. When you got your SHIT together pussy come to you and you call the shot. Just face it these girls are very superficial and if you look like SHIT you not going to get the best rates or the best dreams. So stay in your lane ugly as sin LMAO! I don't want to hear no more I love your ugly needle dick ass LMAO.

Since you inquired about eleven providers yesterday, how many reports are ready for the board today?

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4855338]She's good looking, would like to see her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4855335]What's her number? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4855327]Never had a gun job. Can you help me out please?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4855322]May I have her number? Is this the same dani that I asked for before now?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4855317]She's a good spinner. Where did you find her?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4855308]Have you snatched her number? Please let me know thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4855306]Were you able to get her number? Can you share? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4855305]Did you grab her number? Please let me know thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4855302]Would she be good with me seeing her? What's her number thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4855296]May I please have her number? Thank youu.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4855285]Hey could you please send me her digits? I would greatly appreciate it.[/QUOTE]

His Profile (Senior Member) and Post History is a perfect example of showing the newer members that just because you are a Senior Member, doesn't mean you've gained credibility or are someone who's contributed to the Forum. Over 80 posts and NOTHING of value. When someone with this type of posting history asks me for digits or sensitive info, I won't provide it. I am sure many more members feel the same way. In the past, I HAVE given info to non-senior members IF they have shown solid contribution and have added value to the forum.

We have NO IDEA who this guy is. He could be LEO, he could be a jilted lover, he could be a person trying to blackmail folks, he could be a stalker.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;4856060]Since you inquired about eleven providers yesterday, how many reports are ready for the board today?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Grain56;4856153]His Profile (Senior Member) and Post History is a perfect example of showing the newer members that just because you are a Senior Member, doesn't mean you've gained credibility or are someone who's contributed to the Forum. Over 80 posts and NOTHING of value. When someone with this type of posting history asks me for digits or sensitive info, I won't provide it. I am sure many more members feel the same way. In the past, I HAVE given info to non-senior members IF they have shown solid contribution and have added value to the forum.

We have NO IDEA who this guy is. He could be LEO, he could be a jilted lover, he could be a person trying to blackmail folks, he could be a stalker.

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]As I'm sure you gathered, that was my point, dude's a senior member with a little over 80 posts, but they're all pretty much meaningless. While I doubt any of his history is as bad as yesterday, eleven posts that all do nothing other than ask other members for contact info. Even if otherwise legit, who the hell asks for ELEVEN numbers in a single day? How many of those would he actually even bother contacting? While I acknowledge I did not check, I'd guess he's got zero actual reviews.

Dude,

I guess all avenues have been exhausted. You should pack it in and hide in a corner I would suggest.

You want free phone numbers BUT, THEY are too expensive, you DON'T want to go out and find any cheaper girls because you are too afraid to venture out because there are big bad wolves out there, you have been without a car and have been low on cash for a while, you supposedly have free pu$$y from your fuck buddies dating back for 10 years and you have nothing to contribute to the forum but excuses and lame comments. You're reputation supersedes you. You must be a troll.

Maybe this hobby isn't for you.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=Nightowl21;4855439]Lolol. He blows through occasionally with tons of requests for numbers then nothing. Don't remember ever seeing a review from him. Even referred to himself as senior member. Someone called him out in the Rat Trap a while back, guess he didn't see it. He's the real troll, LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FLAdventurer;4857795]You need to actually go drive the trail. I would offer to do it with you but honestly, it is EASY.

Why are you so afraid to engage?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4858472]I don't want trouble with the leos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4855937]I've gotten utr numbers but they asking for alot. I don't have money like most of you, that's why I am looking in the street Walker section now. I've had fuck buddies to hold me over. But I like the excitement of a stranger.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Grain56;4857019]Maybe you should SHARE the phone numbers of the fuck buddies that you mentioned you have with some of the members of the forum. You could state that they are UTR's to protect their info from being wide spread. Your UTRs info will be safe. Then, you may be able to trade some numbers with others that are more reasonable in cost and gain some creds?

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4858477]Ok so it would be ok to list people I know from the past 10 years or something?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheLantern;4856774]Now that you got a car we look forward to your posts about your experiences. SW's are mostly affordable for anyone. Once you do you will find almost everyone on here will share most any number with someone that gets out there. Good luck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Brian407;4855681]After over a year of asking for numbers you haven't been able to meet anyone. I'm sorry, but that's bullshit. You could drive the trail on a day with $200 and get 10 BBBJ's and give 10 reviews. Do that twice and then you could be a participating monger. Why bother asking for numbers if you don't use them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4858472]I don't want trouble with the leos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ImAwaxdatazz69;4858477]Ok so it would be ok to list people I know from the past 10 years or something?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Grain56;4858570]Dude,

I guess all avenues have been exhausted. You should pack it in and hide in a corner I would suggest.

You want free phone numbers BUT, THEY are too expensive, you DON'T want to go out and find any cheaper girls because you are too afraid to venture out because there are big bad wolves out there, you have been without a car and have been low on cash for a while, you supposedly have free pu$$y from your fuck buddies dating back for 10 years and you have nothing to contribute to the forum but excuses and lame comments. You're reputation supersedes you. You must be a troll.

Maybe this hobby isn't for you.

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]Senior member. Close to 90 posts. Been on the board for over a year. And, best I can tell, TWO posts that kinda sorta qualify as reviews. As to the "kinda sorta" part, those "reviews" had very little in the way of helpful information. Now, in the past couple of days, something approaching twenty posts, none of them OFFERING anything, most of them REQUESTING information and then inquiring as to providing information on chicks that may be from a decade ago? Dude, really? Man up, set up an actual meeting with an actual provider and then post the details. Otherwise, as G56 said, I think you need a new hobby. Maybe model trains, I hear they can be a lot of fun!

[QUOTE=Grain56;4858570]Dude,

I guess all avenues have been exhausted. You should pack it in and hide in a corner I would suggest.

You want free phone numbers BUT, THEY are too expensive, you DON'T want to go out and find any cheaper girls because you are too afraid to venture out because there are big bad wolves out there, you have been without a car and have been low on cash for a while, you supposedly have free pu$$y from your fuck buddies dating back for 10 years and you have nothing to contribute to the forum but excuses and lame comments. You're reputation supersedes you. You must be a troll.

Maybe this hobby isn't for you.

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]Well said this hobby definitely isn't for him or anyone else that's going to be scared to actually put in some effort to hookup with a chick. Stick to your so called fuck buddy's man leave this game to the big boys who aren't afraid to actually fuck or get sucked by a chick.