NoVA SugarBabies

I have a near 100% conversion rate from m&g to FC location, half the time right after and the rest 2nd date. Barely have anyone ghosted on me after 1st date. Maybe it has to do with the selection of who you meet, they are unsure in first place? Or you are giving them wrong vibes. Or it could be a new crop of SBs who aren't sure of themselves. No idea.

[QUOTE=HeyDuhman;6375053]Guys,

For those of you who typically do an in person m&g to check the vibes, chemistry, discuss arrangement details etc.

I seem to be getting a greater than 50% failure rate.

Meaning after m&g where I want to pursue date 2 with sex etc., more than half the girls are ghosting (not counting the ones where I am not interested after m&g).

I never pay any gifts, allowances, or even gas / uber expense for m&g and usually do it low cost / coffee / drinks / walk in park so damages are minimal.

But is this kind of normal? It matches the normal hinge / tinder dating rate for me tbh when about half the girls (or women because I date closer to my age) don't text back / ghost after date 1 but I was thinking with sugaring the guys would be in a better position.

I'm almost 50, maybe a bit better than average looking and always fun, friendly, chill, mature and laid back. Hopefully I am not giving off "cheap" vibes because I don't pay over market value which to me is still 5-600 for the hottest. I'm guessing since I only m&g with the hottest who are asking for 1 k then ok with 800 and finally give in to 5-600 . When they go back they just lose interest in my offer ("low baller", "time waster" I guess is what they think of me?) and maybe try to find the next 1 k guy?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HeyDuhman;6375205]You don't think she looks a bit tubby?

I thought you only go for the slim / athletic under 25 hotties.

And dude why are you escalating the prices. Geez the problem with GPS is DPS! (desperate penis syndrome paying whatever to get that golden pussy).[/QUOTE]No, she's foul. It's a fake profile. I want to see what's her end game.

Anyone met either one of them? Anybody got a scouting report? Thanks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bdfa85bc-dd6f-49f2-85a9-56bd07f30c84[/URL]

Any experience with this MILF type? DM if you would rather She seems nice.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb9c7eb1-2963-4444-ae2b-7f205334d5c9[/URL]

[QUOTE=Dimples572;6375847]Anyone met either one of them? Anybody got a scouting report? Thanks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bdfa85bc-dd6f-49f2-85a9-56bd07f30c84[/URL][/QUOTE]Definitely interesting. Probably a scam. Every time I have reached out to these hot couples, it ends up being a money scam. Pics for money etc.

[QUOTE=FederalHill;6376298]Any experience with this MILF type? DM if you would rather She seems nice.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb9c7eb1-2963-4444-ae2b-7f205334d5c9[/URL][/QUOTE]We exchanged messages. She is oddly detailed about when she can and can't communicate. Then tried to get me on WhatsApp or Signal. When I declined and asked for a number to text, she ghosted me.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;6375847]Anyone met either one of them? Anybody got a scouting report? Thanks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bdfa85bc-dd6f-49f2-85a9-56bd07f30c84[/URL][/QUOTE]Kind of aggressive in wanting to meet, you can see one or the other, or both. For what they allow, and what they charge it was no for me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/35fa1eb5-3387-4290-89f3-d9f1eeb74d48[/URL]

Is this a dude?

[QUOTE=Cruisin1011;6376506]Kind of aggressive in wanting to meet, you can see one or the other, or both. For what they allow, and what they charge it was no for me.[/QUOTE]I think they're hitting everyone up. So they're definitely some type of scammer. They're too fugly and fat too.

My guess is it's a chick. You can't lie about height. What throws me off is when a chick has the "Trans Friendly" label. Primrose looks legit chick to me.

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6376994][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/35fa1eb5-3387-4290-89f3-d9f1eeb74d48[/URL]

Is this a dude?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;6377853]My guess is it's a chick. You can't lie about height. What throws me off is when a chick has the "Trans Friendly" label. Primrose looks legit chick to me.[/QUOTE]If you see a "chicks" profile that says Trans Friendly you definitely need to do a double check on the Adams apple and the size of their hands. Unless that's your thing. No judgement. You do you.

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;6377853]My guess is it's a chick. You can't lie about height. What throws me off is when a chick has the "Trans Friendly" label. Primrose looks legit chick to me.[/QUOTE]There are short men. LOL. Not sure why height would be the factor that made you positive one way or the other.

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;6377853]My guess is it's a chick. You can't lie about height. What throws me off is when a chick has the "Trans Friendly" label. Primrose looks legit chick to me.[/QUOTE]The face looks suss plus the non existent tits. However, I was able to find her social info. I don't even know anymore.

Don't want a dude.

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6378566]The face looks suss plus the non existent tits. However, I was able to find her social info. I don't even know anymore.

Don't want a dude.[/QUOTE]Do you normally search for Instagram and FB?

Using the phone number after Spokeo or something similar? I normally don't dig that deep but I might start. I found a TikTok for my current one.

Yea, you're right. Being a taller man, I just associate smaller people as chicks. My bad. It's that "Trans Friendly" label that really FS with me.

[QUOTE=Squatty2;6378453]There are short men. LOL. Not sure why height would be the factor that made you positive one way or the other.[/QUOTE]