Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Kenal1;4445232]So Catlikr "apologizes" after, apparently, ratting her out for a second time regarding her new incall location in Batavia. Just a couple days ago he wrote:

"Her new in calls exact location is known to The Batavia PD and the Clermont County Sheriff so it's not so safe and discrete. I'd be very careful. Also if you're looking for a 20 something she's 36 and toothless not a single tooth left in her head. ".

And now he says he has "moved on" and no longer lives in Cincinnati. Well, good riddance, Asshole! Just because you were stupid enough to hope for a relationship with her and ruin your life in the process, that was no reason to purposely try to ruin hers and create safety issues for all of us. I hope to hell this is the end of this saga and that we never have to hear from you again.[/QUOTE]I can see where he comes from. I fell in love with a SW from Price Hill. It happens. We had a decent relationship. It was not the sex. It was average at best. We just clicked. I loved her company. I'm in my 50's so not a old fart. My 2 cents. PB.

[QUOTE=Passnby;4446410]I can see where he comes from. I fell in love with a SW from Price Hill. It happens. We had a decent relationship. It was not the sex. It was average at best. We just clicked. I loved her company. I'm in my 50's so not a old fart. My 2 cents. PB.[/QUOTE]The problem here in lies with the reporting where she is contacting business.

I've been in a couple of relationships with a pornstar and strippers. What I've come to understand that if you tell them or force them to not do something they will end up doing it regardless. Had one rule with the pornstar, that was don't do BB scenes. She didn't. The strippers rule was won't ask, don't tell me what you do. Just don't go all the way. For the most part it went well for awhile but the pornstar made more money going BB so of course she ended up breaking it off. The strippers inevitably ended up getting a good offer to do the deed fully. Its just the nature of the beast and you know what you signed up for.

[QUOTE=DearPrudence;4446145]I don't know how the deletions are done. But I and several others have discussed elsewhere how any negative reviews we post are soon deleted. Yes, for some reason, some do remain but most are removed and you are then told your account is inactive and you have to open another account to make additional comments or write reviews.

Periodically, you will see an upset monger actually take out a duplicate ad of the provider who is ripping people off that says something like, "I am a thief. If you want me to rip you off, contact me at XXX-XXXX. ".

I can't tell you how the determination is made but this is happening. That is all I know.

In other words, use precaution when contacting any of the gals off of LC / EB.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I think the girls on those sites are nasty SW material or a scam, so I don't even waste my time trolling them. I get the underlying need for mongers to have variety, but damn.

[QUOTE=JustACustomer;4446911]Honestly, I think the girls on those sites are nasty SW material or a scam, so I don't even waste my time trolling them. I get the underlying need for mongers to have variety, but damn.[/QUOTE]You will on occasion find some real talent on Listcrawler / Escort Babylon. Gals like Kylie, for example, are on these sites initially before learning the ropes and migrating to places like USASG.

I agree that the majority of the gals that regularly post on those sites are not top talent and some are rip off artists, but to say you can't find real talent there on occasion is not correct.

This is a RAVE! No, I will not be sharing their information.

So, I have been searching for one SB on SA for the last month. Had many meet and greets (that I did not have to pay for BTW) and have really learned a lot about the sugar scene. I have found myself a classy SB and I am going to let it run its course, but I digress.

So, I met this young college student for a M&G and we hit it off enough to meet back at her place later that week. Played around orally, but didn't FS. This is where I tell you she had a tongue piercing and fucking ehh, knew how to use it. Had fun and we decided to meet again. So, before I am to arrive the following visit, she texts me and asks me to bring a bottle of Petron and a pizza. Mind you, I have not given her cash yet, so I am trying to decide how much cash to bring along as well. So, I ask her what she wants on her pizza and she says "Surprise me!" So, I swing by Little Caesars and grab one of their hot-and-ready Quattro pizzas (don't want her to be disappointed with my choice of toppings) and a bottle from the liquor store next door. Get to her place and I'll be damned if her roommate isn't there as well. So, I decide we are just hanging out for the evening and open up the bottle and we all start doing shots and eating pizza. Well, our conversation started getting raunchy as the buzz got thicker and before I know it, I am kicked back on the couch, pants down, getting a excellent BBBJCIMWS while the roommate is passed out next to us. I think that is it, but then the roommate wakes up while we are watching Netflix and smells the cum and gets upset that she missed out. LMAO I say I am sorry and maybe next time, but I am an old man and don't think I could go another round. They both think I am challenging them and I get the double BBBJ. Mind you, both of them have tongue piercings. At one point, each of them had a ball in their mouth and was rolling it around on their ball stud tongue piercing while throwing down a pretty good HJ. HOLY FUCKING SHIT! After my second pop, we started talking about what to name that experience, and I mentioned I was not a member of the Mile High Club yet. That led to what name to put on this Club. Hence, the Quattro Balls Club!

Rave Over! .

[QUOTE=Elastic;4428396]I've never run my mouth on this whole thing, and I totally get what happened.

That said, I would still feel better if this site were behind HTTPS. That way any communication between us and the site are truly encrypted. For instance, because this site is not behind a TLS certificate every single time you log into the site your username and password is transmitted in CLEAR TEXT over the wire. Anyone monitoring your network connections (your ISP, LE, your tech-saavy spouse) will capture your login. Same goes for any post you make.

In time, browsers like Google Chrome will actually completely block access to non-https websites.

You can use a service like Let's Encrypt to obtain an https certificate for your website for free.[/QUOTE]I'd like it better if they had a certificate as well, but if you're concerned about traffic being encrypted from your endpoint (laptop, phone, etc) just use a VPN or a secure proxy.

I know you feel the need to share your experience but shouldn't you be posting this in the SB forum?

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10668-Sugarbabies[/URL]

[QUOTE=JustACustomer;4447983]This is a RAVE! No, I will not be sharing their information.

So, I have been searching for one SB on SA for the last month. Had many meet and greets (that I did not have to pay for BTW) and have really learned a lot about the sugar scene. I have found myself a classy SB and I am going to let it run its course, but I digress.

So, I met this young college student for a M&G and we hit it off enough to meet back at her place later that week. Played around orally, but didn't FS. This is where I tell you she had a tongue piercing and fucking ehh, knew how to use it. Had fun and we decided to meet again. So, before I am to arrive the following visit, she texts me and asks me to bring a bottle of Petron and a pizza. Mind you, I have not given her cash yet, so I am trying to decide how much cash to bring along as well. So, I ask her what she wants on her pizza and she says "Surprise me!" So, I swing by Little Caesars and grab one of their hot-and-ready Quattro pizzas (don't want her to be disappointed with my choice of toppings) and a bottle from the liquor store next door. Get to her place and I'll be damned if her roommate isn't there as well. So, I decide we are just hanging out for the evening and open up the bottle and we all start doing shots and eating pizza. Well, our conversation started getting raunchy as the buzz got thicker and before I know it, I am kicked back on the couch, pants down, getting a excellent BBBJCIMWS while the roommate is passed out next to us. I think that is it, but then the roommate wakes up while we are watching Netflix and smells the cum and gets upset that she missed out. LMAO I say I am sorry and maybe next time, but I am an old man and don't think I could go another round. They both think I am challenging them and I get the double BBBJ. Mind you, both of them have tongue piercings. At one point, each of them had a ball in their mouth and was rolling it around on their ball stud tongue piercing while throwing down a pretty good HJ. HOLY FUCKING SHIT! After my second pop, we started talking about what to name that experience, and I mentioned I was not a member of the Mile High Club yet. That led to what name to put on this Club. Hence, the Quattro Balls Club!

Rave Over! .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BTBear;4450177]I know you feel the need to share your experience but shouldn't you be posting this in the SB forum?

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10668-Sugarbabies[/URL][/QUOTE]It was a RAVE! This is the forum where you RAVE about shit, and damn, ain't that an experience that you would RAVE about? I can imagine there will be fewer gentlemen in the Quattro Balls Club than the.

Mile High Club. Lmao Something to shoot for my man! Stay safe out there.

Figure this out. I've been ripped off by more providers posting on USA than anywhere. Three of them. Listcrawler one of them. Streetwalkers none. Its not USA its the girls. Their ads are free when they post so Why not. Gain your trust then rip you off. Thats the main reason I'm into walkers. Lenny6746.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;4450709]Figure this out. I've been ripped off by more providers posting on USA than anywhere. Three of them. Listcrawler one of them. Streetwalkers none. Its not USA its the girls. Their ads are free when they post so Why not. Gain your trust then rip you off. Thats the main reason I'm into walkers. Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Reading most of your post it seems that you have been ripped off more than anyone here is willing to admit and bygirls everywhere SW and all the ads.

Doesn't that say something, they all get you eventually after they earn your trust.

I've been taken before and there is no real way to play irt out, eventually it will happen to everyone in the hobby. Times are changing, these girls have a habit that they are developing a tolerance for, so their prices go up, or they have to steal or rip guys off to get it. It's not rocket science.

I have been checking out your guys forums because Dayton's are pretty dead and honestly the town had shit to offer. But I keep coming across the C. C. Drama. Rather I see it here or spilling over into the monger iso thread.

It brings me back to an old memory I had where I had a brief relationship with an AMP girl who I almost married. Who ironically got caught and prosecuted for wanking dicks in her shop. So because of the stigma of humiliation Chinese girl's carry. The dude that did end up marrying her actually had a cute Asian hottie that sits at home and doesn't play with other men's cocks all day.

Ah well that's life I guess. Who wants to work their ass off all day while you're lady has a mouth or handful of strangers cocks all day, and then somehow convince yourself that your comfortable or actually like and enjoy or actually believe like you're really hurting that pussy any. Or that she's even the slightest bit interested in your cock. When she takes them all day everyday.

But sadly she wasn't the first worker I developed feelings for either. Which is why I don't do many repeat visits with any of them in particular.

I'm into this shit because of past relationships destroying me as a man and shattering my confidence. I'll be damned if I let a provider do it. Even though I think they're all providers on some sense or another. If you're married and your wife hasn't worked in 10 to 20 years. That * is a provider. Just a very entitled one who is going to end up fucking your best friend, brother or son because you work to much.

I guess we're all a bunch of sad lonely fucks to participate in this shit anyway. We obsess and give away the equivalent of roughly a days pay for a mere hour of these ladies time. Only to be forgotten about as soon as we walk out the door. But somehow in our pathetic minds, we still think we matter in some sense.

These girls would sooner take our money than even look at us. In the case of C. C. I think dude professing his feelings made half the guys here want to fuck her even more. Because were all shitty and fucked up like that. But for as bad as I've felt over these very nice ladies in the past. I HAVE NEVER called LEO on anyone. That shit will come back to bite you in the ass.

And don't think for 1 second she won't drop to her knees and inhale LEO's cock free of charge to look the other way. And possibly to even harass you. Because I've seen that before to. I would advise you to find a different hole to plug and move on my man. These very nice ladies aren't worth the energy of giving the slightest fuck about them.

Just my 2 cent's.

[QUOTE=DytGuy;4450957]

I'm into this shit because of past relationships destroying me as a man and shattering my confidence. I'll be damned if I let a provider do it. Even though I think they're all providers on some sense or another. If you're married and your wife hasn't worked in 10 to 20 years. That * is a provider. Just a very entitled one who is going to end up fucking your best friend, brother or son because you work to much.

I guess we're all a bunch of sad lonely fucks to participate in this shit anyway. We obsess and give away the equivalent of roughly a days pay for a mere hour of these ladies time. Only to be forgotten about as soon as we walk out the door. But somehow in our pathetic minds, we still think we matter in some sense.

These girls would sooner take our money than even look at us. In the case of C. C. I think dude professing his feelings made half the guys here want to fuck her even more. Because were all shitty and fucked up like that. But for as bad as I've felt over these kunts in the past. I HAVE NEVER called LEO on anyone. That shit will come back to bite you in the ass.

And don't think for 1 second she won't drop to her knees and inhale LEO's cock free of charge to look the other way. And possibly to even harass you. Because I've seen that before to. I would advise you to find a different hole to plug and move on my man. These kunts aren't worth the energy of giving the slightest fuck about them.

Just my 2 cent's.[/QUOTE]Yeah, there have been times where I've started to get feelings for a provider. But that's as far as it ever went for me. I've never friended them on Facebook, I don't usually know their real names in order to connect on social media, I don't try to help them with their problems, and I sure as hell never involved LE because a chick hurt my feelings.

I run the gamut on how I feel about all this. Sometimes I feel like a sad old fart for doing this. I sometimes really feel like an idiot when I sit down and do the math on how much money has gone down the drain on the hobby.

Other times, I think of guys around my age I know. I really doubt any of them are getting a 20-something or a 30-something year old piece of ass unless they're renting it. Quite a few of them aren't getting any ass at all. Others get starfish sex 3 times a year from their overweight harpie wives. I keep holding out hope that someday soon, a reasonably good looking woman in everyday life is going to willingly and maybe even a bit eagerly drop her panties for me. But I'm in my 50's and am realistic about the odds of that happening. The hobby is about my only option if want to get any.

My reasons for doing this are my own but I am neither sad nor lonely and actually pretty happily married.

The fact that you twice refer to providers by the "c" word speaks volumes (not sure why you're using K).

[QUOTE=DytGuy;4450957]I'm into this shit because of past relationships destroying me as a man and shattering my confidence. I'll be damned if I let a provider do it. Even though I think they're all providers on some sense or another. If you're married and your wife hasn't worked in 10 to 20 years. That * is a provider. Just a very entitled one who is going to end up fucking your best friend, brother or son because you work to much.

I guess we're all a bunch of sad lonely fucks to participate in this shit anyway. We obsess and give away the equivalent of roughly a days pay for a mere hour of these ladies time. Only to be forgotten about as soon as we walk out the door. But somehow in our pathetic minds, we still think we matter in some sense.

These girls would sooner take our money than even look at us. In the case of C. C. I think dude professing his feelings made half the guys here want to fuck her even more. Because were all shitty and fucked up like that. But for as bad as I've felt over these kunts in the past. I HAVE NEVER called LEO on anyone. That shit will come back to bite you in the ass.

And don't think for 1 second she won't drop to her knees and inhale LEO's cock free of charge to look the other way. And possibly to even harass you. Because I've seen that before to. I would advise you to find a different hole to plug and move on my man. These kunts aren't worth the energy of giving the slightest fuck about them.

Just my 2 cent's.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustACustomer;4447983]This is a RAVE! No, I will not be sharing their information.

So, I have been searching for one SB on SA for the last month. Had many meet and greets (that I did not have to pay for BTW) and have really learned a lot about the sugar scene. I have found myself a classy SB and I am going to let it run its course, but I digress.

So, I met this young college student for a M&G and we hit it off enough to meet back at her place later that week. Played around orally, but didn't FS. This is where I tell you she had a tongue piercing and fucking ehh, knew how to use it. Had fun and we decided to meet again. So, before I am to arrive the following visit, she texts me and asks me to bring a bottle of Petron and a pizza. Mind you, I have not given her cash yet, so I am trying to decide how much cash to bring along as well. So, I ask her what she wants on her pizza and she says "Surprise me!" So, I swing by Little Caesars and grab one of their hot-and-ready Quattro pizzas (don't want her to be disappointed with my choice of toppings) and a bottle from the liquor store next door. Get to her place and I'll be damned if her roommate isn't there as well. So, I decide we are just hanging out for the evening and open up the bottle and we all start doing shots and eating pizza. Well, our conversation started getting raunchy as the buzz got thicker and before I know it, I am kicked back on the couch, pants down, getting a excellent BBBJCIMWS while the roommate is passed out next to us. I think that is it, but then the roommate wakes up while we are watching Netflix and smells the cum and gets upset that she missed out. LMAO I say I am sorry and maybe next time, but I am an old man and don't think I could go another round. They both think I am challenging them and I get the double BBBJ. Mind you, both of them have tongue piercings. At one point, each of them had a ball in their mouth and was rolling it around on their ball stud tongue piercing while throwing down a pretty good HJ..[/QUOTE]Love the "Letters to Penthouse" BS stories.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;4451421]My reasons for doing this are my own but I am neither sad nor lonely and actually pretty happily married.

The fact that you twice refer to providers by the "c" word speaks volumes (not sure why you're using K).[/QUOTE]If you were 'happily ' married you wouldn't be on this site. Sry admins and others. But ya wouldn't. Plain and simple. And I'm sure if your wife was out paying $100 a pop to have her pussy stuffed with strange cocks whenever the need arised her, you would be pretty distraught yourself.

And why can't I call them [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]? Do you think they actually respect us? WTF do you think they call is behind our backs? keep living in that delusion where you think you're anything other than a cash machine for these cum receptors. Hope you got a burner dude. You're the type that will definitely get black mailed and have shit sent to your wife if you piss one of these girls off the wrong way or happen to find them in a hard up state and leave yourself in a vulnerable position.