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[QUOTE=BigPoppa2308;7391151]The district of Columbia section has been removed and every city I select takes me to some dating website to complete registration. I used the old link to get past that but now every city I choose all the girls are the same BS ads that aren't real. Very weird.[/QUOTE]Yea, it's definitely different. Hopefully they are still working out the kinks.
[QUOTE=JackRyan1;7391052]Is the site down still??
Thanks.[/QUOTE]It looks like they've fixed it and it's working again. As of a short time ago, only one listing had the "Today" marking on it, so many providers may not yet know that they can post again. Of course, it's still kind of early in the day, so there will likely be more new or refreshed listings during the day (as long as the site stays up).
[QUOTE=BigPoppa2308;7391151]The district of Columbia section has been removed and every city I select takes me to some dating website to complete registration. I used the old link to get past that but now every city I choose all the girls are the same BS ads that aren't real. Very weird.[/QUOTE]The original "rubrankings" looks to be back.
For most providers, especially on the massage side, BP and RR seem to be their "go to" ad sites. RR's recent outage (appears to be back up now) was certainly a concern. And some providers have mentioned their dissatisfaction with BP's pricing and service.
I recently noticed that an ad site that's very active in Las Vegas also has a Washington DC section. Unfortunately, that DC section is not very active.
[URL]https://district-of-columbia.mojovillage.com/[/URL]
I have no idea how much an ad costs on MojoVillage, but I bet some DMV providers would switch if that site became more active. And the only way that will happen is if both providers and clients become aware of that site and start using it.
IMHO, more competition would be a good thing, and I plan on telling as many providers as I can. I would encourage others to do the same and perhaps the concerted efforts of forum members might result in a positive change in the DMV market for both sellers and buyers.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;7392147]For most providers, especially on the massage side, BP and RR seem to be their "go to" ad sites. RR's recent outage (appears to be back up now) was certainly a concern. And some providers have mentioned their dissatisfaction with BP's pricing and service.
I recently noticed that an ad site that's very active in Las Vegas also has a Washington DC section. Unfortunately, that DC section is not very active.
[URL]https://district-of-columbia.mojovillage.com/[/URL]
I have no idea how much an ad costs on MojoVillage, but I bet some DMV providers would switch if that site became more active. And the only way that will happen is if both providers and clients become aware of that site and start using it.
IMHO, more competition would be a good thing, and I plan on telling as many providers as I can. I would encourage others to do the same and perhaps the concerted efforts of forum members might result in a positive change in the DMV market for both sellers and buyers.[/QUOTE]A generic version of CL. BTW I could see just a handful of ads in the area. Thanks.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;7392147]For most providers, especially on the massage side, BP and RR seem to be their "go to" ad sites. RR's recent outage (appears to be back up now) was certainly a concern. And some providers have mentioned their dissatisfaction with BP's pricing and service.
I recently noticed that an ad site that's very active in Las Vegas also has a Washington DC section. Unfortunately, that DC section is not very active.
[URL]https://district-of-columbia.mojovillage.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Mojovillage is huge in Honolulu. It actually replaced CL and BP. It has its own thread in the Honolulu board.
[QUOTE=NarrowLeeway;7392997]A generic version of CL. BTW I could see just a handful of ads in the area. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's big in Vegas too.
[QUOTE]IMHO, more competition would be a good thing, and I plan on telling as many providers as I can. I would encourage others to do the same and perhaps the concerted efforts of forum members might result in a positive change in the DMV market for both sellers and buyers.[/QUOTE]Very active in both NV and HI, and enough forum-worthy info to warrant dedicated sub-forums in both cities. Since Bedpage, Craigslist, RubRankings, and all the other ad sites are available in those venues, that would suggest that Mojo Village is competitive with respect to the price they charge for their ads. The only thing missing in our area is awareness, for both providers and clients.
As a client, here's what I like:
1. It has a decent search function. As with original Backpage, it's easy to search by name, phone number, location, ethnicity, and other keywords.
2. Every ad shows the date and time it was posted.
3. If the provider so chooses, the post can show location so it can be seen without having to open the ad.
4. It appears to keep posts on the site for quite a while. Again, as with original Backpage, it's easy to do research by checking out a provider's older posts.
5. It has a Massage section in the regular services section, as well as the Adult-18 section, which provides options for masseuses who are legit-only or prefer to be more discreet about their services.
Of course, from the provider side, everything depends on visibility + cost = good advertising value. And nothing will happen unless and until it reaches a critical mass of usage and engagement. I have no idea when, or if, that will happen. But just throwing it out there for DMV mongers to think about and, if the opportunity presents itself, to let your fave providers know about it.
If we can ever get Mojo Village to work like it does in Las Vegas and Honolulu (check links below), that would be a good development for the local hobby, IMO.
[URL]https://las-vegas.mojovillage.com/adult-18/companionsguides-women[/URL]
[URL]https://honolulu.mojovillage.com/adult-18/therapeutic-massage[/URL]
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;7392147]For most providers, especially on the massage side, BP and RR seem to be their "go to" ad sites. RR's recent outage (appears to be back up now) was certainly a concern. And some providers have mentioned their dissatisfaction with BP's pricing and service.
I recently noticed that an ad site that's very active in Las Vegas also has a Washington DC section. Unfortunately, that DC section is not very active.
[URL]https://district-of-columbia.mojovillage.com/[/URL]
I have no idea how much an ad costs on MojoVillage, but I bet some DMV providers would switch if that site became more active. And the only way that will happen is if both providers and clients become aware of that site and start using it.
IMHO, more competition would be a good thing, and I plan on telling as many providers as I can. I would encourage others to do the same and perhaps the concerted efforts of forum members might result in a positive change in the DMV market for both sellers and buyers.[/QUOTE]Lots of fake pics, no reviews, scammers. From time to time, I check girls out on these but they still keep ghosting me or suddenly don't send me any message even when I arrive the location. LOL All I can say is you better proceed with a caution.
Full disclosure: I've been mongering since before there was any kind of internet hobby scene. Think cryptically written classified ads in local newspapers and free publications. The only reason I mention that is to make the point that I've witnessed pretty much every iteration of internet ad sites and forums. My first experiences were with San Francisco Bay Area sites like SF Redbook and [URL]lovings.com[/URL], which opened up a whole new universe! I can still recall the day I walked into the Golden Gypsy brothel in Berkeley (discovered through those sites) and found myself looking at a lineup of 9.5+ angels! That was truly the Wild West, and not for the gullible or faint of heart. Mongers who didn't do good homework lost money to scammers. And forums (like pre-USASG Redbook) were invaluable resources although a thick skin was required as epic flame wars sprung up from time to time. All things considered, it was a great learning experience and an amazing time for the hobby.
Over the decades there have been a gazillion different attempts at creating the "perfect" ad site, and all have fallen short (IMO) for one reason or another. Probably the biggest single reason is because sex workers themselves can be unreliable and flaky, with poor communication and business skills, and the worst scammers will usually find ways to subvert any protective measures an ad site tries to implement. At the risk of oversimplification, I would divide ad sites into two broad categories:
1. Those that make it relatively easy for providers to post ads at relatively low cost. Like Backpage and Craigslist (in the past) and Bedpage and Craigslist (currently). Although I think it's an arguable point that none of the current options are as good as the ones we had before.
2. Those that make it relatively more difficult for providers to post, by imposing various requirements and restrictions, and / or charge a premium price for ads. To my mind this category includes sites like Eros, Tryst, and Private Delights.
With respect to both categories, I would respectfully submit that neither are immune from scammers, fakes, and flakes. In fact, a quick perusal of USASG Ripoff threads shows quite a few negative reports involving "high end" sites. Probably the most important point is that any money lost is likely to be higher on those sites.
And don't get me started on reviews and supposedly "verified" ads! Review sites like TER and E-Monkey are primarily about making money and incentivize quantity over (often fake) quality. I wish I had a dollar for every blatantly bogus review I've read. And even worse on some ad sites that give providers veto power over negative reviews! IMO, there is literally only one source of decent information about providers. And that consists of USASG reports by forum members with a track record for posting solid information.
FWIW, I've found many more gems and "diamonds in the rough" in Cat 1 than in Cat 2. In fact, once they've been "discovered" they often move to the Cat 2 sites and reduce their value proposition by raising their prices. So, if I could write a script for improving the hobby in any local area, I would argue for more old-style (less curated) Cat 1 ad sites. I'm pretty confident in my ability to use USASG, and other resources, to do good research. I don't need or want ad sites to restrict the flow of providers into the market. I prefer sites that make it so easy that even part-timers (like semi-pros looking to make some extra cash) will post ads.
Apologies for the long-ish post, but just wanted to provide some background and context for my original post suggesting that Mojo Village might be a worthwhile ad site addition to the DMV hobby scene. And I'd also be interested in hearing the experiences of other members with respect to different ad sites. Not so much about the providers themselves, as there will always be good and bad, but rather about site-specific issues that you think make things easier or harder for mongers.
Ull disclosure: I've been mongering since before there was any kind of internet hobby scene. Think cryptically written classified ads in local newspapers and free publications. The only reason I mention that is to make the point that I've witnessed pretty much every iteration of internet ad sites and forums. My first experiences were with San Francisco Bay Area sites like SF Redbook and [URL]lovings.com[/URL], which opened up a whole new universe! I can still recall the day I walked into the Golden Gypsy brothel in Berkeley (discovered through those sites) and found myself looking at a lineup of 9. 5+ angels! That was truly the Wild West, and not for the gullible or faint of heart. Mongers who didn't do good homework lost money to scammers. And forums (like pre-USASG Redbook) were invaluable resources although a thick skin was required as epic flame wars sprung up from time to time. All things considered, it was a great learning experience and an amazing time for the hobby.
Over the decades there have been a gazillion different attempts at creating the "perfect" ad site, and all have fallen short (IMO) for one reason or another. Probably the biggest single reason is because sex workers themselves can be unreliable and flaky, with poor communication and business skills, and the worst scammers will usually find ways to subvert any protective measures an ad site tries to implement. At the risk of oversimplification, I would divide ad sites into two broad categories:
Experiencing posting problems and hit "upload" prematurely. Here's the rest of the post: 1. Those that make it relatively easy for providers to post ads at relatively low cost. Like Backpage and Craigslist (in the past) and Bedpage and Craigslist (currently). Although I think it's an arguable point that none of the current options are as good as the ones we had before.
2. Those that make it relatively more difficult for providers to post, by imposing various requirements and restrictions, and / or charge a premium price for ads. To my mind this category includes sites like Eros, Tryst, and Private Delights.
With respect to both categories, I would respectfully submit that neither are immune from scammers, fakes, and flakes. In fact, a quick perusal of USASG Ripoff threads shows quite a few negative reports involving "high end" sites. Probably the most important point is that any money lost is likely to be higher on those sites.
And don't get me started on reviews and supposedly "verified" ads! Review sites like TER and E-Monkey are primarily about making money and incentivize quantity over (often fake) quality. I wish I had a dollar for every blatantly bogus review I've read. And even worse on some ad sites that give providers veto power over negative reviews! IMO, there is literally only one source of decent information about providers. And that consists of USASG reports by forum members with a track record for posting solid information.
FWIW, I've found many more gems and "diamonds in the rough" in Cat 1 than in Cat 2. In fact, once they've been "discovered" they often move to the Cat 2 sites and reduce their value proposition by raising their prices. So, if I could write a script for improving the hobby in any local area, I would argue for more old-style (less curated) Cat 1 ad sites. I'm pretty confident in my ability to use USASG, and other resources, to do good research. I don't need or want ad sites to restrict the flow of providers into the market. I prefer sites that make it so easy that even part-timers (like semi-pros looking to make some extra cash) will post ads.
Apologies for the long-ish post, but just wanted to provide some background and context for my original post suggesting that Mojo Village might be a worthwhile ad site addition to the DMV hobby scene. And I'd also be interested in hearing the experiences of other members with respect to different ad sites. Not so much about the providers themselves, as there will always be good and bad, but rather about site-specific issues that you think make things easier or harder for mongers.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;7397646]Experiencing posting problems and hit "upload" prematurely. Here's the rest of the post: 1. Those that make it relatively easy for providers to post ads at relatively low cost. Like Backpage and Craigslist (in the past) and Bedpage and Craigslist (currently). Although I think it's an arguable point that none of the current options are as good as the ones we had before.
2. Those that make it relatively more difficult for providers to post, by imposing various requirements and restrictions, and / or charge a premium price for ads. To my mind this category includes sites like Eros, Tryst, and Private Delights.
With respect to both categories, I would respectfully submit that neither are immune from scammers, fakes, and flakes. In fact, a quick perusal of USASG Ripoff threads shows quite a few negative reports involving "high end" sites. Probably the most important point is that any money lost is likely to be higher on those sites.
And don't get me started on reviews and supposedly "verified" ads! Review sites like TER and E-Monkey are primarily about making money and incentivize quantity over (often fake) quality. I wish I had a dollar for every blatantly bogus review I've read. And even worse on some ad sites that give providers veto power over negative reviews! IMO, there is literally only one source of decent information about providers. And that consists of USASG reports by forum members with a track record for posting solid information.
FWIW, I've found many more gems and "diamonds in the rough" in Cat 1 than in Cat 2. In fact, once they've been "discovered" they often move to the Cat 2 sites and reduce their value proposition by raising their prices. So, if I could write a script for improving the hobby in any local area, I would argue for more old-style (less curated) Cat 1 ad sites. I'm pretty confident in my ability to use USASG, and other resources, to do good research. I don't need or want ad sites to restrict the flow of providers into the market. I prefer sites that make it so easy that even part-timers (like semi-pros looking to make some extra cash) will post ads.
Apologies for the long-ish post, but just wanted to provide some background and context for my original post suggesting that Mojo Village might be a worthwhile ad site addition to the DMV hobby scene. And I'd also be interested in hearing the experiences of other members with respect to different ad sites. Not so much about the providers themselves, as there will always be good and bad, but rather about site-specific issues that you think make things easier or harder for mongers.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your comment. When BP and Craigslist both were the main source for my hobby was the best time. I could get lots of info and try new bees then. But things have changed and your recommendation must be very helpful to other mongers like visitors from other cities.
Just one, but it's a start! [URL]https://district-of-columbia.mojovillage.com/adult-18/therapeutic-massage/jessi-new-girl-in-fairfax-%ef%b8%8f5718668333_403616[/URL].
[QUOTE=PoonWrangler84;7229360]Correction on the name.
To the porno fans, she's out there. May be she will serve your drink and may be later fuck you.[/QUOTE]Messaged you. Don't think she ever did straight porn but she def was prolific on OF.