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[QUOTE=PeterGuzinya;6036869]If I'm not caressing a woman's breasts or fingering a clit, the provider is going to be whacking Willie for weeks. I need some inspiration. [/QUOTE]Absolutely! The smart masseuses understand that, the greedy stupid ones do not, just about how it is in every other business.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;5734111]As for deep tissue, I have female MTs who are like 4'10" 90 lbs who will give such deep pressure that you'll feel like they're about to break you in half. It's not about strength, it's about technique.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm quoting a post from several months ago, but I saw it today during a search and remembered that I'd wanted to ask more about the technique. It does seem that they have to be in good shape, and many are, but can you tell us more about how they work?
[QUOTE=SaltyDog;6037367]You caved and now they all there will be expecting 20 more. Imagine that now guys 80 for he. With so many AMP in OC while always this place?[/QUOTE]Lets say we compromise and agree 50 is base pay for an oil lube and tune with OTC action. Add 5 for UTC top, UTC bottom. Add 10 for UTC top and bottom, Prostrate exam, cuddle / hug while jacking. Those are not expensive rates. Pay a girl $10 to stick a finger a place a girlfriend or wife would never do. That's a damn bargain. So right there is 80 if you get all that. Plus there are girls who watch the clock, and there are girls who are fun and playful. That's worth something. Even a friendly waitress gets a bigger tip than a cold witch who throws your food on the table. So now we are up to 90. Add in BJ, DATY, FS, and fair market value goes up further.
I don't think any of us can complain if we are getting excellent service. Suppose you blew $200 on house and girl for a session that made you smile for a week. Compare to having a GF or a mistress who you need to spend that kind of money on dinners, hotels. Etc. Probably with no better level of service or enthusiasm.
Its a sad truth that I have met some of the coldest bitches working, but also some of the loveliest, funniest, more romantic women in these shops. It seems bizarre but you might get a more fun experience from a woman you are paying than a woman who supposedly loves you.
[QUOTE=CitySlicker;6037775]I think Bamboo is getting way over used. Used to be a hidden gem with awesome massage for $40 and $40 tip (happy HJ ending). Now they are expecting $60 and the massage have gone down hills and it's less than an hour. More like 30 minutes and 15 minutes play then warm towel.[/QUOTE]
Over used? How about blown! Even better, back then. 30 and 35! This 60 tip for a no feel tug is BS. I'm not sure what shops like Happy Happy, Lucky Pavillion, Cloud 9, Miracle or Lucky Feet are like anymore. I do know that they are all 40/hr shops. They've fallen off the radar for those who want a tug.
Lately my legit spots for an after work rub are YZ and Kung Fu. I don't post unless I hit her up a tug because most mongers will find the legit reports boring. A few months ago, Kung Fu was busy so I went down to the first floor of the building to Lucky Feet and got an ok rub plus a tug for a 40 tip. The provider was a little chubby but she offered and I was satisfied with the rub and tug.
If you want extras, don’t be lemmings. Get out there and explore and insist on tipping <60 (that means 40) for a tug.
[QUOTE=PeterGuzinya;6036869]If I'm not caressing a woman's breasts or fingering a clit, the provider is going to be whacking Willie for weeks. I need some inspiration. I've always assumed utc play was worth a little extra. Fifty for boobs, 60 for stink finger. I have no problem with saying just massage. I've got the feeling lately that the two A girls might be short timers. But attitude is everything in that curtained room. If I want pouty and sullen I can just stay home.[/QUOTE]They complain about tired arms and tired palms. For those who complain, inspiration will definitely things up! But more for that access is BS.
So I have found a hidden gem. I feel like I'm the only monger that goes to get pleasured at this establishment. Every time I go I'm the only one there with the same beautiful Korean (Japanese?) woman in her mid 30's. Just the two of us for the last 4 Fridays and I never call ahead.
I write this to encourage you all to visit shops that aren't known to be jack shacks. The first time I went she denied me. But when I went back she treated me right. No rush, a soft touch, and honestly this place seems very clean. I feel like she's my personal maid. Go out and find your own gem it's worth it.
[QUOTE=SpicyCurry;6037752]But now you've confirmed that Andie takes it in the poop shoot. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
English Language - ✅
Literacy - Maybe a ✅
Comprehension - Not any ✅ ✅ to be had, not one
[QUOTE=SaltyDog;6037367]You caved and now they all there will be expecting 20 more. Imagine that now guys 80 for he. With so many AMP in OC while always this place?[/QUOTE]SaltyDog, today my 80+house went to a newbie named Lisa at My Happy Feet. Those B mammaries fit nicely in my mouth, one at a time. Her girlie boner is seriously sensitive, so be gentle and careful or she'll buck you off like an angry mare. And one in the pink while she orally administered to the plumber's wrench until completion, sans CIM.
We long-timers have all enjoyed a very long ride at previous rates. I don't like higher prices for the same or less but that's what we got in this world, for now and into the foreseeable future. Change always sucks for a while. As long as fillies like Lisa also suck, somehow we'll get through it.
There use to be a girl Lily, that was FS and pretty cheap for $80 but that was pre pandemic and sadly she is gone. But hopefully you can find one that does more.
[QUOTE=Balla99;6037044]I been to this place so many times and only got a HJ which was great with a great massage. But lately I seen they give more am I missing something or who should I ask for?[/QUOTE]
There use to be a girl Lily, that was FS and pretty cheap for $80 but that was pre pandemic and sadly she is gone. But hopefully you can find one that does more.
[QUOTE=Balla99;6037044]I been to this place so many times and only got a HJ which was great with a great massage. But lately I seen they give more am I missing something or who should I ask for?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SpicyCurry;6037752]But now you've confirmed that Andie takes it in the poop shoot. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have no idea how you jumped to that conclusion. "puerto negro" is Spanish for "black door" which is his ass. And he stated he did not want, and did not get a finger up the back door. "labia" is latin for lips. I assume he means they were DFK. Although usually a woman's private parts are described in medical books as inner and outer labia, so normally I would use that term with DATY, but since he is a dude and has no labia of that sort, I ruled that possibility out.
She did not "take it" in any orifice in this report. It sounds like he had a nice session with a nice lady.
[QUOTE=MrPlumber;6038602]English Language - ✅ literacy - Maybe a ✅Comprehension - Not any ✅ ✅ to be had, not one[/QUOTE]Didn't you say something about backdoor? Is no anus entry, then what's the $80 tip for?
It was hot as I was on my way to visit Coconut in S. A. My old truck's air died a few years ago and I was getting sweaty. I parked in the back area and went in and in a moment was met by a beautiful "therapist" who took my hundy for the half hour. I kinda like sitting on the table naked waiting for my change and also letting her get a look at what she gets to work with. She returns and hands me the change with a smirk on her face. I kind of liked it. She then asked if "I was cold" still with the smile / smirk.
The massage was nice and the rest was fun but when I got back into the truck and was driving off I thought about her comment "was I cold". I realized she was referring to the size of my penis. I had to laugh out loud to myself. She must have been used to some big clients!
FYI, Sheriff was there around 330 pm yesterday. "Shops closed buddy".
Oh well. Saved me some money!
If you do not like paying 60 for Bamboo then move on. There are so many others out there to chose from. Just stop whining and move on. As for me I'm good with 60 or 80 or more depending which gal I see I get alot more.
[QUOTE=Bronco;6039428]If you do not like paying 60 for Bamboo then move on. There are so many others out there to chose from. Just stop whining and move on. As for me I'm good with 60 or 80 or more depending which gal I see I get alot more.[/QUOTE]Whine and complain and still pay. People can list reasons on why HF and expected tips are up 25-50%; but the main reason is simply because mongers are willing to pay.
[QUOTE=Bronco;6039428]If you do not like paying 60 for Bamboo then move on. There are so many others out there to chose from. Just stop whining and move on. As for me I'm good with 60 or 80 or more depending which gal I see I get alot more.[/QUOTE]Actually, is there any place where the happily accept 40 anymore? Every place is asking for 60 (BW, Air, L&L, Harbor, Top10, TrueCare, etc). The only place which has never mentioned tip money is SH.
Going from 40 to 50 is a 25% increase. I guess that's in line with other wild inflation we see. But 60 is a full 50% increase from before. But I am supposing fairly few massage girls have MBA's.
[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6039105]I have no idea how you jumped to that conclusion. "puerto negro" is Spanish for "black door" which is his ass. And he stated he did not want, and did not get a finger up the back door. "labia" is latin for lips. I assume he means they were DFK. Although usually a woman's private parts are described in medical books as inner and outer labia, so normally I would use that term with DATY, but since he is a dude and has no labia of that sort, I ruled that possibility out.
She did not "take it" in any orifice in this report. It sounds like he had a nice session with a nice lady.[/QUOTE]Puerto negro is black port. Puerta negra is black door.
Any info on this place? I've read a few reviews on other sites, seems like a good legit place. But if house fee is $55 then I'll stick with Young Zi.
[QUOTE=MrPlumber;6036984]I literally left Andie's grasp at 10:15 tonight. As noted, I asked her for "soft" massage and she delivered. Upon the flip I asked for nice and slow and she again delivered. AND! Not even an attempt to pierce the vail of my puerta negra. Had about 10 minutes of gentle cuddle time to finish out the (very late) hour. We may have crossed the plane of each others' upper labia with our tongues though 😉.
Oh andshe wasnt happy with 60 and politely begged for 20 more. I cavedas I enjoyed a few more squeezes of her ass.
#ImWeakSomeTimes[/QUOTE]80 is well worth it for the cuddle and the tongue. If you enjoyed that moment and feel a connection with her, and if I were you, I go back to see her tmr, but definitely within a week, with a jimmy. This is where YMMV may take you wherever you want. Work your charm and Good luck!
[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6038382]Lets say we compromise and agree 50 is base pay for an oil lube and tune with OTC action. Add 5 for UTC top, UTC bottom. Add 10 for UTC top and bottom, Prostrate exam, cuddle / hug while jacking. Those are not expensive rates. Pay a girl $10 to stick a finger a place a girlfriend or wife would never do. That's a damn bargain. So right there is 80 if you get all that. Plus there are girls who watch the clock, and there are girls who are fun and playful. That's worth something. Even a friendly waitress gets a bigger tip than a cold witch who throws your food on the table. So now we are up to 90. Add in BJ, DATY, FS, and fair market value goes up further.
I don't think any of us can complain if we are getting excellent service. Suppose you blew $200 on house and girl for a session that made you smile for a week. Compare to having a GF or a mistress who you need to spend that kind of money on dinners, hotels. Etc. Probably with no better level of service or enthusiasm.
Its a sad truth that I have met some of the coldest bitches working, but also some of the loveliest, funniest, more romantic women in these shops. It seems bizarre but you might get a more fun experience from a woman you are paying than a woman who supposedly loves you.[/QUOTE]Mountbaldy, knowing what I now know about you, I find your last sentence extremely sad.
[QUOTE=Kevin80;6039498]Whine and complain and still pay. People can list reasons on why HF and expected tips are up 25-50%; but the main reason is simply because mongers are willing to pay.[/QUOTE]My breakfast burrito at Mama's on Beach was barely over 10 bucks pre-covid. Now it's 17. When I started mongering, HE was 20. When it went to 40, my visits to AMP decreased and elected to go FS at private houses for 120. Much better deal to go from HE to FS for just 40. Then BW came along with 30 door and 30 tip, and I was pulled back in. Now BW is 60, but FS also jumped, from 160-300 depending on each talent's own asking price. An older gentlemen used to tell me (now I'm his age then), if you don't want to pay, pull out a benji and lay it in front, between you and the monitor, DYI and whack it, clean up and put the benji back in your pocket. A hard day's work is done.
Do I wish it's 40, of course. But would I pay 60, yes, because I can't stop.
[QUOTE=MrPlumber;6038621]SaltyDog, today my 80+house went to a newbie named Lisa at My Happy Feet. Those B mammaries fit nicely in my mouth, one at a time. Her girlie boner is seriously sensitive, so be gentle and careful or she'll buck you off like an angry mare. And one in the pink while she orally administered to the plumber's wrench until completion, sans CIM.
We long-timers have all enjoyed a very long ride at previous rates. I don't like higher prices for the same or less but that's what we got in this world, for now and into the foreseeable future. Change always sucks for a while. As long as fillies like Lisa also suck, somehow we'll get through it.[/QUOTE]Isn't Lisa the one that's about 5'6", with a lot of eye makeup and some back folds? Was she the one that replaced Cindy when she left for a while? I met her at the front counter. She seemed friendly but she had a full schedule.
[QUOTE=Caribe;6039800]Isn't Lisa the one that's about 5'6", with a lot of eye makeup and some back folds? Was she the one that replaced Cindy when she left for a while? I met her at the front counter. She seemed friendly but she had a full schedule.[/QUOTE]Not sure if this Lisa was the replacement for Cindy when she left MHF. Your description of her is pretty accurate. She's got a bit of a tummy but I didn't notice any back folds. Other than her and Cindy I don't know who else is there as PPSN keeps shuffling the lineup. Coco has left, as did Livi and Hanna (good riddance to Hanna's whiny, greedy ass). I'm hopeful Angela returns after she finishes massage school. Lily would be nice to see as well but she seems to be damaged goods. Sad to see as she was such a sweety.
[QUOTE=Caribe;6039800]Isn't Lisa the one that's about 5'6", with a lot of eye makeup and some back folds? Was she the one that replaced Cindy when she left for a while? I met her at the front counter. She seemed friendly but she had a full schedule.[/QUOTE]If she's the same one I'm thinking of, she's been there a few months. Haven't seen her but heard she's chubby and ugly.
[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6039105]I have no idea how you jumped to that conclusion. "puerto negro" is Spanish for "black door" which is his ass. And he stated he did not want, and did not get a finger up the back door. "labia" is latin for lips. I assume he means they were DFK. Although usually a woman's private parts are described in medical books as inner and outer labia, so normally I would use that term with DATY, but since he is a dude and has no labia of that sort, I ruled that possibility out.
She did not "take it" in any orifice in this report. It sounds like he had a nice session with a nice lady.[/QUOTE]Deductive reasoning FTW. Thanks, DRD.
#BoardRedeemed.
#IntellectualRedemptionIsStillRedemption.
[QUOTE=JBird433;6038486]So I have found a hidden gem. I feel like I'm the only monger that goes to get pleasured at this establishment. Every time I go I'm the only one there with the same beautiful Korean (Japanese?) woman in her mid 30's. Just the two of us for the last 4 Fridays and I never call ahead.
I write this to encourage you all to visit shops that aren't known to be jack shacks. The first time I went she denied me. But when I went back she treated me right. No rush, a soft touch, and honestly this place seems very clean. I feel like she's my personal maid. Go out and find your own gem it's worth it.[/QUOTE]This is as good as not posting if you aren't sharing LOL.
[QUOTE=JBird433;6038486]So I have found a hidden gem. I feel like I'm the only monger that goes to get pleasured at this establishment. Every time I go I'm the only one there with the same beautiful Korean (Japanese?) woman in her mid 30's. Just the two of us for the last 4 Fridays and I never call ahead.
I write this to encourage you all to visit shops that aren't known to be jack shacks. The first time I went she denied me. But when I went back she treated me right. No rush, a soft touch, and honestly this place seems very clean. I feel like she's my personal maid. Go out and find your own gem it's worth it.[/QUOTE]Sounds interesting. Where is this place. If you tell, I promise not to go on Fridays LOL.
[QUOTE=TommyGaines;6039760]My breakfast burrito at Mama's on Beach was barely over 10 bucks pre-covid. Now it's 17. [/QUOTE]There's no way on this green earth I'd pay $17 for a burrito regardless of the location.
[QUOTE=JBird433;6038486]I write this to encourage yo all to visit shops that aren't known to be jack shacks. The first time I went she denied me. But when I went back she treated me right. No rush, a soft touch, and honestly this place seems very clean. I feel like she's my personal maid. Go out and find your own gem it's worth it.[/QUOTE]Some people like the hunt, some like to visit a gal multiple times to 'break' her into the hobby (a fools errand if you ask me, like she doesn't pull the same routine w every guy).
Me, I don't have that kind of patience, nor the funds to throw away unnoticed.
I will certianly hit a new shop, but personally, I will NEVER go back if I don't get what I want.
More of us did that, it would likely increase the percentage of good, FS joints.
Others might think diffferently though.
Went over here to see IG: ariaa. Skyy. Latina I think with nice curvy body. Paid total 145 for Nuru. She instantly took off her clothes as soon as she walked in and asked what I wanted. Almost no massage using hands but chose to rub her tits all over my back for awhile before the flip. Did the usual Nuru body slide and got on top of with her lower half in my face and let me touch wherever. Hot girl, pretty cool but have had better 7/10 but would probably go again.
Anybody have info on Body and Sope or Surf city massage on beach?
[QUOTE=MrPlumber;6039816]Not sure if this Lisa was the replacement for Cindy when she left MHF. Your description of her is pretty accurate. She's got a bit of a tummy but I didn't notice any back folds. Other than her and Cindy I don't know who else is there as PPSN keeps shuffling the lineup. Coco has left, as did Livi and Hanna (good riddance to Hanna's whiny, greedy ass). I'm hopeful Angela returns after she finishes massage school. Lily would be nice to see as well but she seems to be damaged goods. Sad to see as she was such a sweety.[/QUOTE]Where does Hanna work now?
[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;6039897]There's no way on this green earth I'd pay $17 for a burrito regardless of the location.[/QUOTE]A burrito filled with beans and rice ain't worth it especially if too much rice. Man guys out here I think they think they're impressing these women? It's like I think if you give them an extra extra good tip they're going to like you. Lots of guys have the wrong idea on these women just like a $17 burrito. It ain't worth it!
[QUOTE=Hornilius69;6039983]Where does Hanna work now?[/QUOTE]No clue, H, sorry. I'm hoping she did you better than me.
[QUOTE=MrPlumber;6039816]Not sure if this Lisa was the replacement for Cindy when she left MHF. Your description of her is pretty accurate. She's got a bit of a tummy but I didn't notice any back folds. Other than her and Cindy I don't know who else is there as PPSN keeps shuffling the lineup. Coco has left, as did Livi and Hanna (good riddance to Hanna's whiny, greedy ass). I'm hopeful Angela returns after she finishes massage school. Lily would be nice to see as well but she seems to be damaged goods. Sad to see as she was such a sweety.[/QUOTE]Cindy is back at My Happy Feet. A 45 year old with a nice body. She tries hard to please.
[QUOTE=SpicyCurry;6039175]Didn't you say something about backdoor? Is no anus entry, then what's the $80 tip for?[/QUOTE]It sounds like $80 was for wonderful GFE and first class dong pull. I believe like Andy lights up and gives her best when a man is gentle and affectionate, but I have a strong suspicion that she doesn't react the same when a guy presents his uniwped ass with shit still warm to the touch. I guess she is just funny that way. Women are so hard to understand.
"Yeah, I'm a back door man.
I'm a back door man.
The men don't know.
But the little girls understand".
- Jim Morrison, the Doors, "Backdoor Man".
[QUOTE=SaltyDog;6040195]A burrito filled with beans and rice ain't worth it especially if too much rice. Man guys out here I think they think they're impressing these women? It's like I think if you give them an extra extra good tip they're going to like you. Lots of guys have the wrong idea on these women just like a $17 burrito. It ain't worth it![/QUOTE]That's a good point and I have fallen victim to over-tipping when I was happy. But the other side of the coin is that you get the basic burrito at Taco Bell for $1. 70, but its $3. 70 for the supreme burrito with extras.
I guess mongering is a bit like shopping in flea markets. You need to haggle, bluff, or pay the price for that antique Coca-Cola bottle.
[QUOTE=Kevin80;6039709]Mountbaldy, knowing what I now know about you, I find your last sentence extremely sad.[/QUOTE]Mountbaldy is another dude on another site. But I appreciate your commiserating with my bittersweet mongering love life. Bro-hug.
[QUOTE=FrankFromMesa;6039366]FYI, Sheriff was there around 330 pm yesterday. "Shops closed buddy".
Oh well. Saved me some money![/QUOTE]Any harm to mongers who were having fun when sheriff arrived?
Good lord! That's an expensive burrito. Does it at least come with all the fixings and is it big enough? I've heard of $10-12 burritos, but never $17. Wow.
[QUOTE=TommyGaines;6039760]My breakfast burrito at Mama's on Beach was barely over 10 bucks pre-covid. Now it's 17. When I started mongering, HE was 20. When it went to 40, my visits to AMP decreased and elected to go FS at private houses for 120. Much better deal to go from HE to FS for just 40. Then BW came along with 30 door and 30 tip, and I was pulled back in. Now BW is 60, but FS also jumped, from 160-300 depending on each talent's own asking price. An older gentlemen used to tell me (now I'm his age then), if you don't want to pay, pull out a benji and lay it in front, between you and the monitor, DYI and whack it, clean up and put the benji back in your pocket. A hard day's work is done.
Do I wish it's 40, of course. But would I pay 60, yes, because I can't stop.[/QUOTE]