Guys,
I don't know if this Netflix movie I am Jane Doe is going to cause any BP blow back but it details how parents of trafficked children repeatably sue BP and lose.
BS
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Guys,
I don't know if this Netflix movie I am Jane Doe is going to cause any BP blow back but it details how parents of trafficked children repeatably sue BP and lose.
BS
[QUOTE=BrokenArrows;3406157]When tyranny comes to America, it will be because of the "go-gooders. " This app looks like a way LE can invade everyone's privacy and make us all "potential criminals," which is the way they see us anyway.
Human trafficking does happen, but not nearly in the numbers advocacy groups say. These groups get gov't grant money, so it's in their interest to gun up the numbers -- much like feminists do with campus rape.
Over-the-top trafficking claims are being used as a way to harass sex workers and their clients. For really good info on this, Google the Village Voice takedown of this subject or check out the blog The Honest Courtesan, which is run by a college-educated call girl. One of the tip-offs that this subject is being exploited is the Super Bowl hype. Just as feminists falsely claimed Super Bowl Sunday was the highest day for incidences of spousal abuse, the trafficking crowd falsely claimed countless girls were being trafficked for Super Bowls (as if only single men attended these games). The difference is, when it was discovered very few girls were actually trafficked to the Super Bowl, no mainstream media outlets corrected their stories.
Anyway, thanks for the tip. Each time technology takes a step forward, it seems, our civil liberties take a step back.[/QUOTE]Yep! It's the same 'ol "How to Lie With Numbers" (and emotion in this case) appeal. Just like you see with the shark attacks vs deer attacks. Hell, I saw it once where more people were being attacked by squirrels than sharks. I'm surprised more police chiefs and leaders don't come out with public appeals in attempt to gain support and resources. Plus the hero image. Though the ones around 198 seem to be pretty good at this.
Human trafficking, campus rape. The power of framing.
It seems to be a 1:1 ratio of AMP's getting shut down and actual people getting caught for human-trafficking. When you look at an area like South Baltimore which is comprised of: drugs, crime, prostitution, gang-violence, etc. I'm not surprised to see most of the 'units' dedicated to stopping trafficking come from other counties. Howard county and Montgomery county most likely have relatively far less incidents of this type and far more time to dedicate to stopping trafficking. The budget for resources dedicated to stopping this is probably larger than the one for transportation in the cities.
Even in a basic economic sense. You have those limited resources and try to stop everything at the same time.
At Indigo456 - and a lot of actual trafficking victims are runaways, that they put in group homes / shelters. Which only leads to more reckless behavior. Then the cycle starts again. Only this time they're willing and not a victim.
At Baltimoronic. The only time I ever think I see this is when looking at people on BP. Some just look damn young. But that's it. The BE blog tends to post about it when it happens around here often enough, so I know it does happen, but not often. That we know of. Also, your sense of humor and creativity do well in representing this part of the forum.
At Horsetrader. They need to find a way to get control of their ads and the right agencies. It was stated that when a victim is being trafficked, they can put certain keywords / phrases in the ads to alert so.
At BlindSandal. This is true as well. They usually take their critical belongings (I. D. , SS, Birth Certificate. Though I don't know who just carries this around except for runaways). Yet these victims do not realize that these can be replaced.
Overall it seems like waste to me; not the act of catching or preventing trafficking, but their inefficiency of doing so. This self-defeating app certainly adds to that. If they really want to do good work: streamline whatever processes they currently use, . Or hire detectives Benson and Stabler.
[QUOTE=BlindSandal;3408703]Guys,
I don't know if this Netflix movie I am Jane Doe is going to cause any BP blow back but it details how parents of trafficked children repeatably sue BP and lose.
BS[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads-up on this. I'll make it a point to see it. I just saw the trailer on YouTube and did some reading on this. Apparently, it's the parents of these girls speaking out.
Here is my two cents: I have a nephew who got addicted to heroin. According to his parents, some kids at college "forced" him to take it and BANG! He got instantly addicted. Anyone who knows about drugs knows that's very improbable. From what I know, the kid was deeply into the drug scene and his parents simply cannot bring themselves to believe that. From what I read, my guess is that the parents in this film are under similar delusions. Not all, but some.
I got the same feeling recently when I viewed a movie about those parents from the 1990's trying to sue Judas Priest for song lyrics that supposedly made their kid commit suicide. This actually made it into a court of law. It didn't occur to them that the fault was with them and / or their kids. It was the rock band!
So now it's "the opium crisis" and "human trafficking!" In a few years, it'll be some other heavily-funded "crisis. " To the media and parents like this, it's always some external bogeyman, never the little angels themselves. No one wants to think little Mary or Johnny lives to get stoned or enjoys the company of strange men. Some people look outward for blame.
Sorry to turn this into a political board, but better we be aware than naive. Also: AOmega0 -- thanks for your thoughtful post. Great stuff there.
I think people are missing a few points here. First, trafficking -- or sexual assaults on campus, or similar incidents -- do exist (the SI article referenced below on the Super Bowl challenges the surge on the day of the game, not the overall problem). Getting in disputes over whether its 25 percent or 19 percent or whatever isn't useful, nor effective strategy.
Second, let's be honest here -- the number of women who are in this because "they enjoy having sex with strangers" is tiny. Women who really are in it because they want to go buck wild have a wide variety of options, where they can also be more selective. Public health stats show that sex workers overwhelming have drug problems, and that its that -- coupled with low skills / education levels, at least to start with -- that drives this.
This doesn't mean that most women in the business are trafficked, or have no free will. Except for Asian AMPs (which I DO think often are organized), many times "trafficking" means a pimp / boyfriend working with his girlfriend. Doesn't make it right, but its not what we are talking about.
Frankly, given the political nature of the times -- the deciding factor in last year's election was the right-wing Christian vote, which basically wants everything from bikini's on the beach on down eliminated -- I think boundaries have to be set.
One of the things you often see today is the "all or nothing argument. " If you are a vegetarian, someone will throw it in your face about your leather belt. But that's a fake argument -- you can still set boundaries -- for example, yes, I'll eat a steak, but won't eat a dog -- that make sense.
I have to admit, I'm out of the game now. But I do know there there are people who only do OTC from strip clubs, and relatively high end at that.
There are several reasons for doing that -- first, looks are usually much better, and the level of drug use is lower (though obviously still there). But for the most part, OTC with someone from a higher end club is an interaction with an adult, in all senses of the word, who can make a reasoned decision.
I know others will disagreed, but not accepting or at least admitting any problems is going to have a real negative impact in the near future, in a number of ways.
[QUOTE=BrokenArrows;3409379]Thanks for the heads-up on this. I'll make it a point to see it. I just saw the trailer on YouTube and did some reading on this. Apparently, it's the parents of these girls speaking out.
Here is my two cents: I have a nephew who got addicted to heroin. According to his parents, some kids at college "forced" him to take it and BANG! He got instantly addicted. Anyone who knows about drugs knows that's very improbable. From what I know, the kid was deeply into the drug scene and his parents simply cannot bring themselves to believe that. From what I read, my guess is that the parents in this film are under similar delusions. Not all, but some.
I got the same feeling recently when I viewed a movie about those parents from the 1990's trying to sue Judas Priest for song lyrics that supposedly made their kid commit suicide. This actually made it into a court of law. It didn't occur to them that the fault was with them and / or their kids. It was the rock band!
So now it's "the opium crisis" and "human trafficking!" In a few years, it'll be some other heavily-funded "crisis. " To the media and parents like this, it's always some external bogeyman, never the little angels themselves. No one wants to think little Mary or Johnny lives to get stoned or enjoys the company of strange men. Some people look outward for blame.
Sorry to turn this into a political board, but better we be aware than naive. Also: AOmega0 -- thanks for your thoughtful post. Great stuff there.[/QUOTE]
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This girl is safe gents, and she was good for me. Very GFE. Clean, shaved pretty kitty, tits alright too, and she got a nice booty. She works form the regular list of gents so does not post much but text her or for first time call her, and try to get on that list of acceptable Joes. Says she is Russian, but I doubt that. Prices are in 0. 220 hour bracket, but than again she is not a Loop girl.[/QUOTE]Just to confirm her rate is $$. 2?? A quick google revealed she has been working since 2015 and her rate was $ (maybe for a quick visit) .
[QUOTE=Didas11;3410384]Just to confirm her rate is $$. 2?? A quick google revealed she has been working since 2015 and her rate was $ (maybe for a quick visit) .[/QUOTE]I am not sure she does quick. Maybe in the beginning she did but both hh and hr are more than $.
[QUOTE=AllTheTime;3409473]I think people are missing a few points here. First, trafficking -- or sexual assaults on campus, or similar incidents -- do exist (the SI article referenced below on the Super Bowl challenges the surge on the day of the game, not the overall problem). Getting in disputes over whether its 25 percent or 19 percent or whatever isn't useful, nor effective strategy.
Second, let's be honest here -- the number of women who are in this because "they enjoy having sex with strangers" is tiny. Women who really are in it because they want to go buck wild have a wide variety of options, where they can also be more selective. Public health stats show that sex workers overwhelming have drug problems, and that its that -- coupled with low skills / education levels, at least to start with -- that drives this.
This doesn't mean that most women in the business are trafficked, or have no free will. Except for Asian AMPs (which I DO think often are organized), many times "trafficking" means a pimp / boyfriend working with his girlfriend. Doesn't make it right, but its not what we are talking about.
Frankly, given the political nature of the times -- the deciding factor in last year's election was the right-wing Christian vote, which basically wants everything from bikini's on the beach on down eliminated -- I think boundaries have to be set.
One of the things you often see today is the "all or nothing argument. " If you are a vegetarian, someone will throw it in your face about your leather belt. But that's a fake argument -- you can still set boundaries -- for example, yes, I'll eat a steak, but won't eat a dog -- that make sense.
I have to admit, I'm out of the game now. But I do know there there are people who only do OTC from strip clubs, and relatively high end at that.
There are several reasons for doing that -- first, looks are usually much better, and the level of drug use is lower (though obviously still there). But for the most part, OTC with someone from a higher end club is an interaction with an adult, in all senses of the word, who can make a reasoned decision.
I know others will disagreed, but not accepting or at least admitting any problems is going to have a real negative impact in the near future, in a number of ways.[/QUOTE]This isn't the place for political debate but the whole point of the Super Bowl trafficking stories was the surge on that day. So, by saying it didn't happen, the media is basically saying they lied. The same thing happened with the claims of domestic violence spiking on Super Bowl Sunday. No truth in that. Yet the concept allowed various groups to collect their grant money to solve a problem they themselves created through propaganda.
The "War on Trafficking" is a lot like the War On Drugs. Yes, both problems exist. Of course they do. But not in the numbers people are claiming and they're claiming that so they can get rich off Daddy Government. Living near DC, I see the money these agencies get and it's crazy.
For further reference, I'd urge everyone to do two things:
1). Read this Village Voice article from 2014:
[URL]https://www.villagevoice.com/2014/01/30/just-in-time-for-february-the-myth-of-sex-trafficking-and-the-super-bowl-returns/[/URL]
2). Read the blog The Honest Courtesan. It's run by an educated call girl who posts news articles about subjects like this and adds her commentary. One of her pet topics is heavy-handed law enforcement and the various do-gooders who think they're trying to help. She often has other call girls chime in with their opinions.
This blog is also a good way to find contacts with women in "the business," although most of them are based in the Northwest. Still, that brings us all full circle to why we're here to begin with:
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Last time I broke my rule on that, I still followed my other rules to be sure there was no sting. But the provider was not someone I would have even contacted if I had a photo. I immediately excused myself & left either a very mad or very depressed provider.
[QUOTE=Noobalicious;3411312]With ads using fake pics. A google image search shows ads using the same photo in Detroit & Baltimore on either the same day, or back & forth through several consecutive days. I'm not going to walk into an unknown or a potential sting responding to an ad with no pics or fake / stolen pics.
Last time I broke my rule on that, I still followed my other rules to be sure there was no sting. But the provider was not someone I would have even contacted if I had a photo. I immediately excused myself & left either a very mad or very depressed provider.[/QUOTE]Thanks Noobalicious I will pass this.
[QUOTE=Noobalicious;3411312]With ads using fake pics. A google image search shows ads using the same photo in Detroit & Baltimore on either the same day, or back & forth through several consecutive days. I'm not going to walk into an unknown or a potential sting responding to an ad with no pics or fake / stolen pics.
Last time I broke my rule on that, I still followed my other rules to be sure there was no sting. But the provider was not someone I would have even contacted if I had a photo. I immediately excused myself & left either a very mad or very depressed provider.[/QUOTE]Asians almost never (99%) use real pics unless they are high-end $$ escorts. True of spas, condos, and pretty much any other non-call girl spots.
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Basically a SW, operating off of a BP guise, you gents know how it goes.
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Says she needed to be picked up downtown, and then dropped off. Like her look, when I asked about donations, she responded with a cool remark.
Basically a SW, operating off of a BP guise, you gents know how it goes.[/QUOTE]Heard a report from a friend that she does not look like the pictures aka not current. Granted this is a hearsay, but proceed with caution.
She's not a SW but a girl who used to strip on the Block. I know her well. She has an abusive bf and a kid with him. She's fun as long as she's not smoking crack. MW.
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Says she needed to be picked up downtown, and then dropped off. Like her look, when I asked about donations, she responded with a cool remark.
Basically a SW, operating off of a BP guise, you gents know how it goes.[/QUOTE]