Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=hardon;1612707]Did my second visit to BT's last Thursday night. Seemed like a slow night with not a lot of customers. Headed straight to a bar seat for some refreshment. I was spotted by Luna almost immediately and she kindly occupied the bar stool next to me. I had a very good session with Luna on my first BT's visit in mid-October, but I was a bit surprised that she remembered me after more than a month. After a little chit chat we headed to the VIP to play. Luna is an adventurous partner in the back room. Kept everything on an oral basis since she did not have a cover handy. Luna has awesome oral technique. I was inspired to give back in kind and did some intense DATY. We even managed to do a little 69, which is no mean feat in these VIP booths. I got nailed for a second $20 fee due to the length of time spent in the VIP booth. Whatever. Headed back to the bar to rest & recover. Was approached by several other dancers, all of 7 to 9 quality. Overall BT's has my vote for the best quality & value. I will be stopping here on every visit to Detroit.[/QUOTE]Hardon,

I had two good experiences with Luna also. Same thing she remembered me the seoncd time after a month had gone by also. I never got hit with the second fee, but both times she never rushed me, and I gave a tip as felt a got good value.

Dearborn weekend nightshift.

Skinny flat chested new girl with bad teeth said she left Bogarts because too many girls there do everything for 40. By her calculation for girls to make good money in the place 40 to 50 dicks would have to get sucked per day. That's pretty high volume. I don't frequent the joint, so I can't comment on how close that is to actual traffic, but it seems like an exaggeration to me. The upshot is she's now at BTs for lower volume and higher prices. Good luck with that. I brushed her off, hoping she'd go back to Bogarts. She was maybe a 6. 5.

Was hoping to see Luna, but she was nowhere to be found, again. Someone please pm me with working digits, if you've got 'them. Old digits I had for her stopped working back in August.

Hot blonde with her hair in a bun asked me if I wanted to go to the VIP. Hell yes, I said. She started to go, but I pulled her back, asking her about the menu."The menu's in back," she said."Never," said I. And that was the end of that. She moved on. It's just as well, she had glitter all over her, and that stuff's as hard to get rid of as herpes.

A new (to me) tallish blonde girl named Sarah looked good, with great nips, but she had someone else ahead of me in line.

Nubian Winter came by and we chatted a bit before she had to go onstage. She's a sweetheart I've seen before. See previous post. I made the mistake of passing on her services in order to meet up with someone less familiar.

Ended up with a girl who called herself Katie. Maybe mid to late 20's. Slender, but not fit. 5'7", with pierced deflated bees, tan skin, medium long light brown / blonde hair, small mouth, pretty face, but never smiles. That should have been an indicator of what was to come. With some difficulty I negotiated 100 for BBBJ, with no cim. I offered an extra 20 for SW, but she insisted that's "gross." She wanted a cover from the bouncers for an extra 10. This is a regular service they offer here. If you need a cover, do yourself a favor and bring one, or walk across the street for a 5 dollar three-pack. If you want bb instead, tell them you're married. That often works. Back in the VIP she starts getting impatient, using too much hand, with bad technique, counting songs, and exhibiting an overall lousy attitude. I wasn't inclined to finish early. It hadn't been long, not even a day since my last about of legit sex, I wasn't in a hurry, and I wanted to make it last. But in the end, her lack of enthusiasm and persistence meant that I had to finish things up myself. She wouldn't even watch. Terrible service. Would not repeat. She had the nerve to ask for 20 tip at the end, which I declined and explained why. If you want a client to finish quickly, you've got to pretend that you don't hate your job. This girl is no fun in the VIP. Avoid.

[QUOTE=Electronman;1617220]I haven't visited the HC in several months, since they removed the VIP doors (no privacy) , raised the lap dance prices and reined in the fun. It is a great facility but it is being squandered by questionable management practices. If you visit and discover an improved business model, please provide an update.[/QUOTE]I agree. They seem to be following the Deja Vu Showgirls business model up in Saginaw / Flint. What a complete waste of resources and time. So many other reasonable options here in the D.

Me and some of my friends will be in town next month of the auto show. Where are the top clubs for us to go? Keep in mind that some of them are black (I'm the cream in the coffee) and I have heard that some clubs don't show the love unless you're white. Which clubs are equal opportunity in the VIP?

[QUOTE=Electronman;1617220]I haven't visited the HC in several months, since they removed the VIP doors (no privacy) , raised the lap dance prices and reined in the fun. It is a great facility but it is being squandered by questionable management practices. If you visit and discover an improved business model, please provide an update.[/QUOTE]I'm new here, and now I'm glad I joined. They took the doors off? That kills this place, the private VIP fun was the main reason I went to this place.

[QUOTE=Southernbred;1618997]Me and some of my friends will be in town next month of the auto show. Where are the top clubs for us to go? Keep in mind that some of them are black (I'm the cream in the coffee) and I have heard that some clubs don't show the love unless you're white. Which clubs are equal opportunity in the VIP?[/QUOTE]Well it depends on where you are staying at in detroit. My experience is that cash is king in the clubs so they don't care if you are purple with buck teeth. Read the forum for some info here's my recommendations.

Westside near the airport:Bogart's and Flight club, Henrys the 8ths is good for inexpesnsive fun but its been going down hill. Bt's on michigan ave and club venus in detroit.

Southside: all you need to know is henry the 8th south on dix highway and hustler club.

Eastside: the 8mile clubs like coliceaum (sp?) and players, centerfolds on john are for a warm up if you do alot of mongering but refer to the streetwalker forum first!

Northside: nope, nothing, nada. Zilch, oakland and macomb are pretty much no fun. There are some backpage action if you want. But penthouse club and trumpps on 8 mile on the detroit side is your best bet!

Hope I helped some. Have fun in the the and stay safe out there!

[QUOTE=Southernbred;1618997]Me and some of my friends will be in town next month of the auto show. Where are the top clubs for us to go? Keep in mind that some of them are black (I'm the cream in the coffee) and I have heard that some clubs don't show the love unless you're white. Which clubs are equal opportunity in the VIP?[/QUOTE]All of the clubs in the metro area are cool, the main drags are 8 mile road east Coliseum, Players, are good to go. West 8mile The Penthouse. Black clubs Ace of Spades King of Diamonds. Mich ave BT's, Toy Chest, Parthenon, Flight Club by the airport. Read the forum to get more specifics.

[QUOTE=Bigboi47;1619105]All of the clubs in the metro area are cool, the main drags are 8 mile road east Coliseum, Players, are good to go. West 8mile The Penthouse. Black clubs Ace of Spades King of Diamonds. Mich ave BT's, Toy Chest, Parthenon, Flight Club by the airport. Read the forum to get more specifics.[/QUOTE]While I generally agree with this, there are certain clubs where black guys are not made to feel welcome (Chapeau Vert, for example) and other clubs where white guys were / are not made to feel welcome (Club L'Elegance, for example).

However, for the upper level clubs that I suspect the auto show crowd will be looking for, I agree that most clubs don't discriminate against black or white. The only color that matters is green. (However, some individual dancers may discriminate, and not seek dances from black guys).

[QUOTE=Mich CL; 1619200]While I generally agree with this, there are certain clubs where black guys are not made to feel welcome (Chapeau Vert, for example) and other clubs where white guys were / are not made to feel welcome (Club L'Elegance, for example).

However, for the upper level clubs that I suspect the auto show crowd will be looking for, I agree that most clubs don't discriminate against black or white. The only color that matters is green. (However, some individual dancers may discriminate, and not seek dances from black guys).[/QUOTE]Good Points I figure most out of towners won't stray off the main drags.

[QUOTE=Nes86;1619032]I'm new here, and now I'm glad I joined. They took the doors off? That kills this place, the private VIP fun was the main reason I went to this place.[/QUOTE]Corporate decided to "clean up" the Detroit Hustler Club over the summer. Why? I don't know but legal liabilities must have been a consideration. The club had pretty regular clientele during the afternoons and the evening could be pretty busy. The biggest hit on the club was that talent was inconsistent but the facility sure was conducive to having fun. I haven't visited the club since the summer but I hear that most of the dancers have scattered to other clubs. I don't know if they still attract a customer base but there are too many other great strip clubs in Detroit for me to waste time and money at the PG-13 version of the Hustler Club.

I decided to drive up to H8S late Sunday afternoon. Big mistake! There were only 3 dancers working: Mia, Deedee, and Pam. One of the waitresses was pretty cute but kind of shy. As I was trying to leave Deedee got in my way and asked me where I was going and if I wanted to watch her suck my d**k. I don't know why I keep going back to that dump.

I went to Bogart's from there, a little better but not much. Ended up getting a CBJ for 100.

[QUOTE=Mich CL; 1619200]While I generally agree with this, there are certain clubs where black guys are not made to feel welcome (Chapeau Vert, for example) and other clubs where white guys were / are not made to feel welcome (Club L'Elegance, for example).

However, for the upper level clubs that I suspect the auto show crowd will be looking for, I agree that most clubs don't discriminate against black or white. The only color that matters is green. (However, some individual dancers may discriminate, and not seek dances from black guys).[/QUOTE]I'm going to have to agree with you on the chapeau vert, I stopped in there and I was getting the cold shoulder by the waitstaff and the girls. I figured it had something to do with the break in earlier and they got ripped off big time. Probably thought I was casing the joint, well I know where I'm not wanted!

In town on business and after much debate on where to go, I ended up here. Now I usually like more of a sure thing type of joint but being an out of towner I wanted to pick a spot where I didn't have to worry about issues. Maybe this was the wrong spot but I must say being from Chicago, it was pretty good. A little pricey for my taste but overall a good experience. I was hoping to hit 8 mile or other hot spots, but without knowing the areas I was hesitant. If I liked BT's any recommendations as to where to hit tomorrow?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Vick123; 1620049]In town on business and after much debate on where to go, I ended up here. Now I usually like more of a sure thing type of joint but being an out of towner I wanted to pick a spot where I didn't have to worry about issues. Maybe this was the wrong spot but I must say being from Chicago, it was pretty good. A little pricey for my taste but overall a good experience. I was hoping to hit 8 mile or other hot spots, but without knowing the areas I was hesitant. If I liked BT's any recommendations as to where to hit tomorrow?

Thanks![/QUOTE]On 8-mile, I would recommend Coliseum and Players. You can save some cash if you go in the afternoon or late afternoon. Both clubs are a sure thing for the most part and reasonable if you negotiate

Never, never tell anyone your from out of town as its like putting $$ on your forehead. They will ask if you've been there before. Just tell all who ask you usually frequent BT's.

Please give us a report and if you would be so kind, a comparison to Chicago.

[QUOTE=StreetMeat;1619804]I'm going to have to agree with you on the chapeau vert, I stopped in there and I was getting the cold shoulder by the waitstaff and the girls. I figured it had something to do with the break in earlier and they got ripped off big time. Probably thought I was casing the joint, well I know where I'm not wanted![/QUOTE]Thats funny I have been there also and recieved same cold shoulder and I'm white. I have walked in sat for 15 minutes never got a beer with only 4 customers in the bar so I leave. I have also been there with more girls than customers and no girl even comes up to me. So I think its more that somedays its just bad service. I have been there on other days where they treat me like I'm a rock star it is a very odd place.

[QUOTE=TenderMan; 1620075]On 8-mile, I would recommend Coliseum and Centerfolds. You can save some cash if you go in the afternoon or late afternoon. Both clubs are a sure thing for the most part and reasonable if you negotiate

Never, never tell anyone your from out of town as its like putting $$ on your forehead. They will ask if you've been there before. Just tell all who ask you usually frequent BT's.

Please give us a report and if you would be so kind, a comparison to Chicago.[/QUOTE]OOPS. Do not know how to edit my post.

Please change "Centerfolds" to PLAYERS.

Centerfolds is seedy. LOL

I just saw your post about Hanks and I concur. It's sad and shocking how downhill THAT place has gone. (Who would have thought it was even possible?)

I live nearby H8S and have been going there on and off for easy 20 years. It's been a bummer for most of my last visits and certainly not worth the time if you're making a long drive. During the week you can wheel in & see Deanna for a quick oil change, but if she's not there, good luck. Probably my last 5-6 visits there have coincided with some kinda nonsense (2/3 girls working, if there are more, at least 75% are less than ideal, some kinda altercation, etc.) I'm wickedly tired of going there, sucking down a few overpriced beers, and then leaving for greener pastures. My only personal consolation is that I usually get to skip the cover charge which sort of makes up for one overpriced beer.

I'm glad there are other options.

[QUOTE=Gwailo; 1619776]I decided to drive up to H8S late Sunday afternoon. Big mistake! There were only 3 dancers working: Mia, Deedee, and Pam. One of the waitresses was pretty cute but kind of shy. As I was trying to leave Deedee got in my way and asked me where I was going and if I wanted to watch her suck my the*k. I don't know why I keep going back to that dump.

I went to Bogart's from there, a little better but not much. Ended up getting a CBJ for 100.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TenderMan;1620075]Never, never tell anyone your from out of town as its like putting $$ on your forehead. They will ask if you've been there before. Just tell all who ask you usually frequent BT's.[/QUOTE]This is rock-solid advice. Never, ever, tell a dancer you've never been in the club before even if it's true. She'll seize you up as a rank newbie and try to pull every trick she can think of. Lie like hell if you have to.

Always wanted to visit Toy Chest. Is it comparable to BT in terms of price and available options?

[QUOTE=Bigboi47; 456854]On Ford road just west of Sfld fwy. It's been awhile since I was there, never been during the day. It's not very big but nice the VIP is a room behind a curtain they have little booths and a sofa. Dancers were nice blk, white, asian.

The best dance I got there was from a slim asian dancer. Also met this 18 yr old hottie but she was a good girl. Told me she quit Henry's south because she was not a ho.[/QUOTE]

The best bang for the buck I have in this hobby are the takeouts from the detroit strip clubs. Also never paid more than $ at BT and always had a good time.

This used to be my favorite club in America. After being away for nearly a year I returned today and, wow, what a disappointment! Arrived late afternoon and was glad to see Brenda (one of my all-time favorite MILFs) and Samantha still working. There were about 8 more dancers on dayshift and few were 6-7 but most were of lesser quality. Got good dances from Brenda and Sam but nightshift had arrived before I could sample more day girls. Night shift was a downer. Many of the girls were 3-4 quality and the few attractive ones seemed stoned or bored. Since they had only been on dute 30 minutes or so, boredom doesn't seem the most likely issue.

Did get a few dances from night shift girls and each one began with an offer for extras. $ BBBJ and $$ for CFS. Don't think so. Got the prices reduced by 50% and had a French Lesson that was uninspired.

Stayed around for another hour or so but the quality did not improve. At least the new VIP booths are a little more private that previously.

Paid a visit to Johns Hot Spot. A really cool skinny, tattooed white chick named Saint. Unusual name if nothing else, been a stripper for a short time. I doubt she is down for service, but who knows when that cash is involved.

[QUOTE=TenderMan; 1620075]On 8-mile, I would recommend Coliseum and Centerfolds. You can save some cash if you go in the afternoon or late afternoon. Both clubs are a sure thing for the most part and reasonable if you negotiate

Never, never tell anyone your from out of town as its like putting $$ on your forehead. They will ask if you've been there before. Just tell all who ask you usually frequent BT's.

Please give us a report and if you would be so kind, a comparison to Chicago.[/QUOTE]I would agree with Coliseum but disagree on Centerfold. Two reasons; the girls are very mediocre in looks and bodies and many there will not do extras.

[QUOTE=Vick123; 1620049]In town on business and after much debate on where to go, I ended up here. Now I usually like more of a sure thing type of joint but being an out of towner I wanted to pick a spot where I didn't have to worry about issues. Maybe this was the wrong spot but I must say being from Chicago, it was pretty good. A little pricey for my taste but overall a good experience. I was hoping to hit 8 mile or other hot spots, but without knowing the areas I was hesitant. If I liked BT's any recommendations as to where to hit tomorrow?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Chicago sucks for strip clubs. You have to head towards Harvey for any fun! While in our fair city you should try penthouse (expensive but top shelf) coliseum, players for higher quality. Of you want some dirty more budget friendly fun try bogarts, or Venus. Guaranteed to have a good time with most girls at any of the above. Don't tell them you are from out of town.

[QUOTE=Oneknot;1621363]Chicago sucks for strip clubs. You have to head towards Harvey for any fun! While in our fair city you should try penthouse (expensive but top shelf) coliseum, players for higher quality. Of you want some dirty more budget friendly fun try bogarts, or Venus. Guaranteed to have a good time with most girls at any of the above. Don't tell them you are from out of town.[/QUOTE]I would say with all the comp prices are going down, had a $150 GFE at FC, $200 FS really good service no GFE at FC, and $200 GFE at PH twice, I think if you hold firm at $200 you will get taken care of, the one $200 at FC started at $500 and she still took good care of me for $200, these are not the bottom of the barrel, young hot chicks!

[QUOTE=Bigdikdanaler;1622293]I would say with all the comp prices are going down, had a $150 GFE at FC, $200 FS really good service no GFE at FC, and $200 GFE at PH twice, I think if you hold firm at $200 you will get taken care of, the one $200 at FC started at $500 and she still took good care of me for $200, these are not the bottom of the barrel, young hot chicks![/QUOTE]The bad economy is a boon for us pervs. $200 will get you most if not all of what you want at most clubs in the D. God I love Detroit.

This place is pretty reliable for HJ, but not so much for BJ or FS, though I've found those once or twice from a petite tatooed white girl and a big redbone that I haven't seen for a while. More recently, a pretty Dominican ebony girl with big booty and perky ay-cups offers a nice hygienic spit or lotion HJ for the price of dances plus 10 (plus 10 for wrist band of course). Good technique and attitude. Somewhat older tallish dark chocolate worker with glasses and big jugs will also do HJ and greek with lotion for a 20 tip, but don't bother asking for more.

[QUOTE=Duckydo;1622400]The bad economy is a boon for us pervs. $200 will get you most if not all of what you want at most clubs in the D. God I love Detroit.[/QUOTE]Club price 100.

Escort price 200.

Don't screw up the money

Went to BTs Wednesday night. First time there, nice club and a good selection of girls. Saw a very slender and leggy brunette that I never had the chance to talk with. She seemed to have guys flocking to her all night and I didn't even catch her name. Anybody have info on this girl. She's taller probably 5'9 small chest great legs and a tight little ass.

[QUOTE=Jooop; 1622922]Club price 100.

Escort price 200.

Don't screw up the money[/QUOTE]I will kneel to you if you go to Penthouse, go for the hottest chick there and get FS for $100. 00. That may work at the Dearborne Clubs and Inkster. 8 mile clubs, good luck. Enough said.

P. S. I agree with "don't screw up the money".

[QUOTE=Duckydo; 1623128]I will kneel to you if you go to Penthouse, go for the hottest chick there and get FS for $100. 00. That may work at the Dearborne Clubs and Inkster. 8 mile clubs, good luck. Enough said.

P. S. I agree with "don't screw up the money".[/QUOTE]Not enough said, Ducky. Jooop's basic premise is true. If you want to compare the highest priced club in the "D" and the hottest chick you have to compare that with the "hottest" SP and that puts you in five Benji area or more. Plus, if you try to negotiate with the SP she will ban your "E" mail addy. Guaranteed.

[QUOTE=TenderMan;1623185]Not enough said, Ducky. Jooop's basic premise is true. If you want to compare the highest priced club in the "D" and the hottest chick you have to compare that with the "hottest" SP and that puts you in five Benji area or more. Plus, if you try to negotiate with the SP she will ban your "E" mail addy. Guaranteed.[/QUOTE]When the girls from Penthouse come to the 8 mile clubs they do work for the 8 Mile prices here not to many guys pay 200. 00 for a booth myself I like beds.

[QUOTE=Duckydo; 1623128]I will kneel to you if you go to Penthouse, go for the hottest chick there and get FS for $100. 00. That may work at the Dearborne Clubs and Inkster. 8 mile clubs, good luck. Enough said.

P. S. I agree with "don't screw up the money".[/QUOTE]On a different (now defunct) forum, some posters used to brag about getting great deals for FS (often 100 or less) at BTs and Coliseum, often at the end of a shift when the girls were hoping to make tip out or to maximize their day's take home pay. However, in my experience. 100-150 seems to be the price point for FS at many of the Detroit clubs (BTs, Coliseum, Landing Strip and certainly Bogarts) with Penthouse (routinely) and FC (often) being a bit more (200). I often have a 1-2 hour time limit for any given visit so that limits my opportunity to negotiate with several dancers.

I have never paid more than 100 at BT, but unlike the posters in other forum you refer to, I never bargain. I just offer 100 and most of the time, they accept it or I walk away from the deal. I have paid the same price for meeting them outside also. I suspect that they have different prices for different people. Once they know that you will pay more, they will not lower their price for you. Or perhaps as they have some higher paying clients, they can afford to charge less for some of us. Regardless, the strip clubs in Detroit are the best value in the hobby.

[QUOTE=Electronman;1623786]On a different (now defunct) forum, some posters used to brag about getting great deals for FS (often 100 or less) at BTs and Coliseum, often at the end of a shift when the girls were hoping to make tip out or to maximize their day's take home pay. However, in my experience. 100-150 seems to be the price point for FS at many of the Detroit clubs (BTs, Coliseum, Landing Strip and certainly Bogarts) with Penthouse (routinely) and FC (often) being a bit more (200). I often have a 1-2 hour time limit for any given visit so that limits my opportunity to negotiate with several dancers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Eishiasano;1623894]I have never paid more than 100 at BT, but unlike the posters in other forum you refer to, I never bargain. I just offer 100 and most of the time, they accept it or I walk away from the deal. "I have paid the same price for meeting them outside also". I suspect that they have different prices for different people. Once they know that you will pay more, they will not lower their price for you. Or perhaps as they have some higher paying clients, they can afford to charge less for some of us. Regardless, the strip clubs in Detroit are the best value in the hobby.[/QUOTE]Exactly, I've never offered more for OTC either. These Clubs charge these gals for everything, like DJ, House Mom, VIP (in addition to your fee) , outfit rent, make- up, Tip-Out. Every club is different but their net really suffers.

If I'm interested I always make the case that "I'd rather give it to you and not the club" and ask about take out and I've had a fair amount of luck. Plus, OTC gets them somewhat out of the "hustle" mode so you can relax and enjoy the "bed" etc. LOL.

The only downfall is their place may not be much better than a no-tel but your still pretty safe on the "risk" scale.

[QUOTE=Cbcb2124;1623113]Went to BTs Wednesday night. First time there, nice club and a good selection of girls. Saw a very slender and leggy brunette that I never had the chance to talk with. She seemed to have guys flocking to her all night and I didn't even catch her name. Anybody have info on this girl. She's taller probably 5'9 small chest great legs and a tight little ass.[/QUOTE]A name would help. There's a lot of leggy brunettes at Bt's.

[QUOTE=TenderMan;1623185]Not enough said, Ducky. Jooop's basic premise is true. If you want to compare the highest priced club in the "D" and the hottest chick you have to compare that with the "hottest" SP and that puts you in five Benji area or more. Plus, if you try to negotiate with the SP she will ban your "E" mail addy. Guaranteed.[/QUOTE]Not to disrespect Joop's post but his OP said $100 at the clubs and $200 for escorts. That's a generality that doesn't hold in real life. I don't know what type of girls you are attracted to but the ones I go after are top notch at PH, FC, Players, Coliseum and $200 will get me pretty much what I want. Others won't budge even at $500. I've gotten some down to $150 but that's a lot of work to get them there. Yes, I have gotten girls at PH and FC down to $120 but they're just average girls. When it comes to escorts, you know what the going rate is, and no, you can't negotiate. I have had some give me discounts because I've become friends with them.

[QUOTE=Jooop;1623734]When the girls from Penthouse come to the 8 mile clubs they do work for the 8 Mile prices here not to many guys pay 200. 00 for a booth myself I like beds.[/QUOTE]You know what I am talking about my man. It's true you get a bed and more time outside the club. But you have to deal with the NC / NS, fake pictures, bait and switch, full price for service, LE set ups. I know what I am getting and at a reasonable rate and I generally have a great time at the clubs. To each his own.

[QUOTE=Electronman;1623786]On a different (now defunct) forum, some posters used to brag about getting great deals for FS (often 100 or less) at BTs and Coliseum, often at the end of a shift when the girls were hoping to make tip out or to maximize their day's take home pay. However, in my experience. 100-150 seems to be the price point for FS at many of the Detroit clubs (BTs, Coliseum, Landing Strip and certainly Bogarts) with Penthouse (routinely) and FC (often) being a bit more (200). I often have a 1-2 hour time limit for any given visit so that limits my opportunity to negotiate with several dancers.[/QUOTE]LOL. I was on one of those forums and I routinely posted my finds. We used to have a "stripper data base" in which we post dances, clubs, prices, etc. Good times. All of which you said is true.