Seeking Arrangement

I saw his girl couple weeks ago:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ad100cd5-66ea-46e9-aebc-493dfd6c6ba3[/URL]

Waste of time and money!

Face is pretty beat up but worst part she's paranoid.

She won't let you touch her boobs, suck on any part of her body, no BJ (covered or uncovered), will get angry when you are about to cum to make sure not a single drop falls in her body like if you were going to throw some acid on her.

At the end I didn't even finish and I just told her to leave.

My guess is she's or used to be a stripper as she showed their typical behavior. Let's meet, go to the bed, fuck, cum quickly so I can leave ASAP.

Stay safe and don't let her hot pics fool you.

[QUOTE=PawgHunter;4760228]I tried SA for the first time this month, during the covid era, it's been interesting to say the least. I honestly do not like typical providers because there is zero intimacy, you are just interacting with a sad or addicted girl in a bad situation doing what she has to do to get by. On SA, the girls are young and beautiful for the most part. They aren't sad or desperate, they are just broke college students that decide to try using their youth and attractiveness to get a sugar daddy instead of working at Starbucks making the same amount a SD's allowance would provide. During covid, there are even more women than ever on SA. So many waitresses, beauty salon workers, retail workers, realtors, ect are trying to become sugar babies because the government has forced them into unemployment. ... [/QUOTE]I am a little older than you (42). Once I setup my paid membership about 7 months ago, I was contacted by maybe 40 or so women over the one month I had a paid membership. I had chatted with quite a few and found the women fell into a few categories:

1) Women who were using SA exactly the way they use skip-the-games or similar sites. Similar prices, similar women.

2) Women who were looking to get a stupid amount of money in return for nothing at all. Not just outright scams but women who wanted to be paid significant amounts of money for platonic dinner dates.

3) Women who were very new to the whole thing and when things got down to it, were unwilling to really go through with things.

4) Women who were established sex workers (escorts or strippers) who had mainly moved on but liked having a small handful of regular clients on-hand to help make ends meet.

I ended up seeing two women from category one, one from three, and two from four. I still chat with one of the category four ones. She has her own work (including modeling. I've seen the professional work she has done) that she does but meets up with me on occasion and I'm sure a few other guys. But not a high-volume provider as any time I want to get together, she's always been available. We would get together for a few hours, usually dinner or a comedy show or something followed by an hour, hour and a half of sex. Then we'd share some pot and chat a bit and wait for her Uber. Honestly, it was a great situation until Covid came along. We're going to get together again when it's safe and occasionally still text each other. It is clearly a professional relationship but it is less random and more comfortable than picking a random women off of Eros or skip-the-games or whatever.

Has anyone seen either of these girls?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b327db2b-91f2-4ba2-af18-b32367f895b2[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6a87bfc9-cf08-4cf9-851c-6d9d98f6d1ae[/URL]

[QUOTE=BigBootyFan;4766080]Has anyone seen either of these girls?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b327db2b-91f2-4ba2-af18-b32367f895b2[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6a87bfc9-cf08-4cf9-851c-6d9d98f6d1ae[/URL][/QUOTE]Bad links.

[QUOTE=SomeDetroitGuy;4762448]I am a little older than you (42). Once I setup my paid membership about 7 months ago, I was contacted by maybe 40 or so women over the one month I had a paid membership. I had chatted with quite a few and found the women fell into a few categories:

1) Women who were using SA exactly the way they use skip-the-games or similar sites. Similar prices, similar women.

2) Women who were looking to get a stupid amount of money in return for nothing at all. Not just outright scams but women who wanted to be paid significant amounts of money for platonic dinner dates.

3) Women who were very new to the whole thing and when things got down to it, were unwilling to really go through with things.

4) Women who were established sex workers (escorts or strippers) who had mainly moved on but liked having a small handful of regular clients on-hand to help make ends meet.

I ended up seeing two women from category one, one from three, and two from four. I still chat with one of the category four ones. She has her own work (including modeling. I've seen the professional work she has done) that she does but meets up with me on occasion and I'm sure a few other guys. But not a high-volume provider as any time I want to get together, she's always been available. We would get together for a few hours, usually dinner or a comedy show or something followed by an hour, hour and a half of sex. Then we'd share some pot and chat a bit and wait for her Uber. Honestly, it was a great situation until Covid came along. We're going to get together again when it's safe and occasionally still text each other. It is clearly a professional relationship but it is less random and more comfortable than picking a random women off of Eros or skip-the-games or whatever.[/QUOTE]I'm a quarter century older than you, and I've had much better luck, it seems. I have encountered a lot of women who fall into those four categories, but I've met some other ones that don't. I've had ongoing relationships with a few college (and graduate) students, one long-time one with a professional in her mid-twenties, and several with waitresses / bartenders / etc. Some of them I would have been more than happy to date in real life if I were single and a lot younger. Most were not seeing anyone else on the site, although a couple were (I believe). I've actually had the best sex in my life in my 60's because of this site (although that might say more about me in my twenties than it does about the bounty of SA).

Having said that, I will say that I don't think the pickings are as good as they used to be. I've been on the site for about 6 years, and in the last couple of years it has gone downhill. I don't mean that the wheat is not still there, but there is a lot more chaff. I think this is due to a couple of things: First, the closing of Backpage moved a lot of pros onto the site; second, SA seemed to decide that it was a good advertising model to tell college girls that they could sign up and get lots of money without having to do anything. So, the gems are still there; they're just harder to find. It's always taken a lot of time to find them, and now it takes even more. Also, I've had many more "ghostings" after somewhat extended discussions in the last 1-2 years than I have ever had before, including ones on the day of the arranged meeting, where they go silent that morning.

[QUOTE=ImBadBoy19;4766256]Bad links.[/QUOTE]Anyone seen either of these girls?

I just tried the links and they work.

I'll post them again anyways:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6a87bfc9-cf08-4cf9-851c-6d9d98f6d1ae[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b327db2b-91f2-4ba2-af18-b32367f895b2[/URL]

Yeah there profiles are all coming up as blocked or unavailable profiles you might want to just post screen shots of the accounts. We have a white knight on this forum so he's probably warning these girls there accounts are being looked at on the forum.

[QUOTE=ILuvThisTown29;4767698]Yeah there profiles are all coming up as blocked or unavailable profiles you might want to just post screen shots of the accounts. We have a white knight on this forum so he's probably warning these girls there accounts are being looked at on the forum.[/QUOTE]I believe you are correct about the white Knight. I posted about this a while back. Be very careful who you share information with.

Here's some honest follow up after the backlash to my first post LOL.

Its true, I was new to SA and kind of naive. I won't lie, the first girl I choose as my SB turned out to live 3 hrs away in the UP. She promised that she came to my area often but the distance was a dealbreaker for me. I'm married so my arrangements have be local and able to meet my schedule. Make sure you verify where these girls live and go to school. She might live close but turns out she goes to school in another state the majority of the year. I wasted a week's allowance on this girl in the process.

The 2nd girl I choose was local, single and gorgeous but she just wasn't right either. During covid, the online or texting engagement is a must and she was definitely lacking. She was new to the game and just needed money cause her job spa was shut down due to covid. She was really pretty and probably not used to having to put in work to keep a man interested LOL. She's since deleted her account because I'm guessing no guy would deal with her LOL. I wasted a week's allowance on her in the process.

Finally, I choose a third girl and she appears to be the one. Just turned 21, easy to talk to, beautiful and sexy. She lives 30 mins from me and goes to school within an 1 hr from me. She's had an SD once before so she's not new and is serious about the arrangement. We talk every day and have good chemistry, share a lot about our personal experiences and are legitimately becoming friends. She doesn't have a bf for me to worry about but she's bi and has a gf which is ok (and hot LOL). She's disabled her SA account so I don't have to worry about competing with other SDs, I'm definitely not trying to in a stable of guys giving her money LOL.

She appears to be at least moderately attracted to me. Sure, I'm aware that I'd have little to no chance with her in a bar or club setting but that's what SA is all about. Guys making arrangements with girls out of their league because the financial benefit. It's true, I've given her two weeks of allowance so far and we haven't met and chances are that we won't met for possibly weeks to come but, if this arrangement works out, it'd be far happier with it than anything I could find on a typical dating site or from a provider.

FYI, I know my SN is "pawghunter" but I haven't been chubby chasing LOL. All 3 of these girls weren't pawgs, thick or the slightest bit fat at all. They have the looks of a model and body of yoga instructor!

This route isn't for everyone, like I said, I wasted money two girls and haven't met the third but it's a risk I'm willing to take. And to be honest, the allowance I'm giving her isn't that much considering what a catch this girl is. I'm spending slightly less per week that your average provider would charge for a HH. The difference is that I could see the provider 4 times in a month and I'm planning to see my SB once or twice per month. I'm married and have only been laid twice in the last year so once or twice a month is a vast improvement LOL. Plus I doubt I could sneak away more often than that.

I would not recommend SA if you don't want to do a lot of work. I've spent so much time on SA that's it's like my second job LOL. I also wouldn't recommend if you're in a tight financial situation, I'm lucky enough to have the opportunity because I recently got a raise in my salary and I've only been using the extra funds to experiment with SA.

[QUOTE=Remi14;4693981]Meet this lovely lady twice this week. She is very easy going and talkative. Was nervous meeting her since the pic kinda looked fake but had her send me a pic of my choice and see did. We meet up chatted for a bit and had some fun. PM me if you want more details. But if your looking for someone that can relax you and put you at ease I would see this one.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1bdd64c9-4070-4453-a441-007a54f0a4e8[/QUOTE]Hey is it possible to get her contact info- pm me if so?

Thanks.

So I know we've had a lot of new people who are now using SA. SO I did a little guide of something you need to know. I been doing SA for two years so I have quite a bit of experience. Anyone else who like to add on feel free.

1. Google reverse Image search is your friend- For those of you who Don't know what this is its EASY. You save a pic to you computer or phone. Now if your on a PC take the pic save it to you desktop go to google Hit the image tab and drag and drop the image into the search bar. At that point google will search the web and tell you where and if that pics been used or witch amateur model pic they are using believe me it happens a lot. If your using your phone Save the image into a folder that's easy to find. And there a google reverse search web page. Type "google reverse search" in google it will pop up. Now select open image go to the folder your stored the image and hit search. Magic!

2. Burner Phones- Always always use a burner phone. Don't use texting App or phone apps. Always always get a Burner the apps always link some sort of info that can be traced back to your personal info and original number. If a SB get into a desperate situation where they need money They will stalk you or even worse black mail you.

3. Allowance- Now here the tricky part. Make sure you take the discussion off SA as soon as possible. Sa will Ban you faster then you can blink for implying any sexual Activity. Most girl have some sort of app or they will message you on your burner. Discuss allowance up front and what your looking for and see what they are looking for. Again SA is about negotiation So start off lower then what you regularly plan on Giving and go up if needed to keep there interest. Your not trying to low ball them your just trying to meet each other needs. Make sure they understand what you like and if you have any fetishes and fantasy so they aren't surprised the day of the meet. Make sure you have a back up girl more then likely they will get cold feet day of the meet.

4. Prier Meet up- Now this is a very important one. Now that you've gotten through steps 1-3 It time for the pre meet up. The reason you want to do this is Chemistry. You want a fun Sb someone that's attracted to you and your attracted to her. Nothing worse then meet with a SB that uses 10 years old pics and doesn't have teeth or you finally meet and she a dead fish. Also you can get a vibe from her. Always always listen to your gut If something doesn't feel right that usually because something is off. Now I know a lot of girl won't meet due to Covid-19 So the only other way to go is make Snapchat / Facebook / zoom / skype what ever it maybe so you can have a webcam chat. EVERYONE HAS ONE don't let them give you some bullshit that they don't have any social media everyone one has one in some shape or form.

5. Meet up. So it the day of the meet up. Always pre book a room 3-4 days before. Make sure that you text you Sb the days before to make sure the meets still happening. Always see if you back up around. Now hotels will ask for you driver license and personal info make sure that is all taken care of before she gets to the hotel. You don't want them to have any of your info. An make sure you have Some sort of lock on your phone. Not a pattern something that long and only you will remember for a pin. Don't Use your birthday!. If you don't already have it make sure you have some way of tracking app on your phone if it gets stolen or misplaced. Now me personal Cash is king. I don't give SB any other form of currency beside the king. I place it in a white envelope let them count it put on the dresser and it there's when we are done. Don't ever give anything upfront. Yes they are college girls and some are not but more then likely they will try to bail or sudden have gotten sick or a half ass performance a lot of girl when they gotten whet they need they have no motivation all of a sudden. . Now say you've had your fun. Don't ever let them keep you room or stay longer. When you leave they leave no and if's and buts about it. If you piss them off in some way they can fuck up the room and it goes on your card. Or they may try to call down and get your personal info from the clerk. An if your sb gets cold feet try your back up =).

6. Other Tips- So I understand some girls don't like using webcams which is okay. Have them pose and do something unique with there hands. Personally ill ask them to pose with the peace symbol Just so I know they are real. DON'T EVER EVER GIVE A SB ANY MONEY BEFORE THE MEET. 33 percent of these girls on Sa are Camegirl / Onlyfan or they are just scam Artist. Please use the forum and make everyone aware of them.

Now I know there going to be a lot of different views and opinions and something that I didn't add or touch on. Feel free to add on to this. An as always be safe guys. If you don't know something or don't know how to go about something ASK! That what this community about. It about helping our fellow man.

This is in response to IluvThisTown, #1118. For some reason, the site wouldn't let me incorporate his message without telling me that my message was too SHORT.

For what it's worth, I've been on SA for about six years.

1. Google Image Search: There's an easier way. On a PC, when in a profile, click on the picture. Then right click and select "Google Reverse Image Search. " You have to have expanded the photo that's on the profile; you can't just click on the photo from the profile page. On an Android, just hold your finger down on the picture and select "Search Google for this image. " There's no need to download the photo.

2. Burner Phones: There are two schools of thought on this. I quit using a burner phone because it would be too hard to explain to my wife. So, I use an app. No matter what you do, the NSA can track you down. But there's not much a bad baby can do with the app.

3. Allowance: I usually don't discuss allowance until the M&G. I just don't know what I would feel comfortable paying. If pressed, I may give a number, but I don't bargain. If it's enough (and it usually is), that's it. If it's not enough for her, then I wish her a good life. If she were then to come back and say my number was good enough, which hasn't happened, I probably would say "no, thank you," because I don't want her to start off the relationship thinking she is being underpaid. I agree about taking any conversation about allowance off-site, although if one of her first communications asks about allowance, I usually end up not pursuing further conversations. I never try to have a back-up lined up for the day because I'd rather be stood up than stand someone up, so I would not want to cancel on my "back up. " As far as I can tell, what SA doesn't like in the communication is the linkage of money and sex. I don't think that purely sexual conversations will get you banned; after all, some of the girls have some pretty explicitly sexual stuff in their profiles, but it's better to be safe than sorry.

4. Prior Meet up: I agree that a meet & greet is important to gauge chemistry. I'm finding that fewer and fewer girls want to have one, which I think is a reflection of the new mix of girls on the site. If we're not going to have a meet and greet and just arrange an initial meeting in a hotel, I will cancel if she does not ask me for a picture. I'm not looking for a hooker. The kind of girl that I'm looking for actually cares what the guy she's sleeping with looks like.

I'm not trying to meet anyone new during the lockdown. There are already so many girls who think they should be paid just for existing without any need to meet up. So, right now a girl who says she doesn't want to meet up immediately may be someone who in better times would be happy to meet up (and my do so after the lockdown, or she may be someone who wasn't going to meet up with anyone anyway. I don't have sufficient confidence in my ability to tell which is which, and I don't want to alienate someone who would end up being a good SB.

5. Meet up: I agree that pre-booking the hotel makes things smoother the day of. If you meet during the day, as I do, one complication is whether the hotel has a room available for early check-in. Obviously, they don't promise this, so it's important that wherever you reserve allows cancellations on the day of arrival. More and more are requiring 24 or 48 hours notice of cancellation, so if you have reserved at such a place and they can't give you early check-in, you are still on the hook for the room, which is a situation you don't want to be in. As for payment to the girl, I agree that cash is the way to go. I must say that there have only been a few situations in which the girl has wanted to see the money in advance. I usually have the cash in an envelope which is inside a gift bag with something like a box of candy. I also agree that it is important to continue communications up until the time of the meeting. I've had several situations in which we're having lots of communication up until we decide to meet and thereafter she communicates less. That's almost always a sign that she's getting cold feet. Unless I get some enthusiastic communication the night before AND the morning of the meeting, I won't even head for the hotel.

6. Other Tips: I don't ask the girl to send me a picture in some pose to show she's genuine. I think that would be off-putting to the kind of girl I'm trying to attract. Especially if you're going to have a meet and greet first, there's not much reason to worry about what she looks like. I haven't ever have anyone show up to a meet and greet where I wanted to hide under the table. I definitely agree on no money before the meet, and I don't mean the meet and greet. I have never paid for a M&G, although in a couple of cases, I've paid for her Uber. If they insist on money for the meet and greet, I just say "no, thank you. " One reason is that before you meet them, it's hard to trust them; another reason is that if they think I should pay them have coffee or lunch with me, that's an indication of what the arrangement would look like. To me, the meet and greet is like a job interview, where each side is looking to see if there is a fit. She's selling herself as much as I am selling myself.

For what it's worth.

[QUOTE=Remi14;4693981]Meet this lovely lady twice this week. She is very easy going and talkative. Was nervous meeting her since the pic kinda looked fake but had her send me a pic of my choice and see did. We meet up chatted for a bit and had some fun. PM me if you want more details. But if your looking for someone that can relax you and put you at ease I would see this one.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1bdd64c9-4070-4453-a441-007a54f0a4e8[/QUOTE]She is the person in her profile pictures but they're very deceiving!! She is nowhere near that hot, her teeth are totally nasty and rotten, I couldn't barely get it up because of her nasty teeth!! She's definitely on some hard drugs!! She is a very nice woman and she does try hard to please you but I just can't get over the nasty teeth!

[QUOTE=CougarMan;4771958]She is the person in her profile pictures but they're very deceiving!! She is nowhere near that hot, her teeth are totally nasty and rotten, I couldn't barely get it up because of her nasty teeth!! She's definitely on some hard drugs!! She is a very nice woman and she does try hard to please you but I just can't get over the nasty teeth![/QUOTE]I don't know about you guys but hygiene is my biggest turn off and turn on. Me personally I like a girl who shaves her pits does her nail like the cute little french manicures nothing over the top and a beautiful white smile. I can handle some crocked teeth as long as they are taken care of. If I see your teeth are yellow or rotten and your nails have left over paint on them or there is dirt under your nails god knows what else you don't clean.

Has anyone ever seen or talked to her before? Good looking, lives in West Bloomfield. I probably should have posted this earlier because I'm on my way to see her now. If anyone has any information I'd appreciate [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d5bdf40c-0cf2-459c-96f3-284dbbc2f955[/URL].