Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=JesseJane;4290038]The travel deposit was what we would have discussed IF he had called me when I asked. The wording in my ad about my up-charge for outcall is somewhat confusing and will be edited to be more simplistic for idiots who can't spell or comprehend what they read. I did some research, taking an UBER to Youngstown (I don't currently have a car) would have cost about $500 round trip. Then I would have to come up with a "travel time rate. " My current USASG Senior rate is $200 and hour. If I would charge one fourth of that, $50, per hour, that would add $450. You tell me what you think is fare? Remember since I am traveling 9 hours, I am losing a whole day of income.[/QUOTE]What kind of monger expects a woman to drive 4+ hours to see him even though they never met before and she has no idea if he has any money? I've had trouble getting girls to drive 20 minutes for an appointment, even with my stellar senior rep on here. If I were you, I wouldn't even step foot out of my house unless he could provide names of a dozen 5-star providers who can vouch that he's good for the money, and even then I'd want notarized statements to that effect.

Jesse is 100% correct in this situation. If she didn't get $500 sent to her Paypal or Venmo account beforehand to cover the Uber roundtrip to Akron, then it's a NO-GO operation until the funds arrive. Simple as that. This ain't rocket surgery, folks.

[QUOTE=JesseJane;4290038]I am posting this in the Octagon because my response in the USAAC Review forum was not approved and I was told to take it to the Octagon where you can say anything.

I have a transcript of our texts, but I feel that it would be inappropriate to post them all here in the open since texts are considered private. They also contain his home address in Youngstown, which is definitely against the rules.

What follows is my response to his post. I will write the response after each statement he makes separated by blank lines..[/QUOTE]You would have t be crazy to go that far, this guy is obviously playing you. If I were in your shoes, I'd stay local, it's not that hard to figure out.

If this guy has that much money, tell him to take the next plane down to see you.

[QUOTE=TMeister;4291056]What kind of monger expects a woman to drive 4+ hours to see him even though they never met before and she has no idea if he has any money? I've had trouble getting girls to drive 20 minutes for an appointment, even with my stellar senior rep on here. If I were you, I wouldn't even step foot out of my house unless he could provide names of a dozen 5-star providers who can vouch that he's good for the money, and even then I'd want notarized statements to that effect.

Jesse is 100% correct in this situation. If she didn't get $500 sent to her Paypal or Venmo account beforehand to cover the Uber roundtrip to Akron, then it's a NO-GO operation until the funds arrive. Simple as that. This ain't rocket surgery, folks.[/QUOTE]I agree with TMeiser about this. I sometimes travel for my business as well, and I surely would not drive that far without a partial payment up front to at least cover my travel time and expenses, loss of work time would also have to be a part of the consideration. There is no doubt that communication or lack thereof was a big factor here between the two of them, but bottom line is there would have to be some serious understanding and deposit accounted for. Jesse has done an outcall visit to me, I think I was only 15-20 minute drive for her, and we arranged travel funds as part of our agreement. She arrived on time and I enjoyed her services, so I have some idea as to the 'kind of lady' that she is and the integrity of her word. It also appears from his posts that RaiderKid is a trusted senior with a lot of reviews. The upside to this episode is that no one is out anything except time communicating and hurt feelings, with lessons learned (hopefully on both sides). BTW TMeister, it's not brain science either, LOL.

I totally agree that both parties have some fault in this.

The guy from Youngstown because of his unrealistic offer and his using his offer to force the BBFS demand.

JJ because she should have blocked him at the first mention of BBFS.

But what is a girl to do when they are hurt by a post like his? Not reply and let it die is one option, but I am sure it hurt her pride and she was mad enough to post what she did.

So far it seems that the vote of popular opinion is on her side, so I guess she is winning.

Both parties have stated their opinions, so let's move on.

[QUOTE=BobbyLinn;4292211]I agree with TMeiser about this. I sometimes travel for my business as well, and I surely would not drive that far without a partial payment up front to at least cover my travel time and expenses, loss of work time would also have to be a part of the consideration. There is no doubt that communication or lack thereof was a big factor here between the two of them, but bottom line is there would have to be some serious understanding and deposit accounted for. Jesse has done an outcall visit to me, I think I was only 15-20 minute drive for her, and we arranged travel funds as part of our agreement. She arrived on time and I enjoyed her services, so I have some idea as to the 'kind of lady' that she is and the integrity of her word. It also appears from his posts that RaiderKid is a trusted senior with a lot of reviews. The upside to this episode is that no one is out anything except time communicating and hurt feelings, with lessons learned (hopefully on both sides). BTW TMeister, it's not brain science either, LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BTBear;4292335]I totally agree that both parties have some fault in this.

The guy from Youngstown because of his unrealistic offer and his using his offer to force the BBFS demand.

JJ because she should have blocked him at the first mention of BBFS.

But what is a girl to do when they are hurt by a post like his? Not reply and let it die is one option, but I am sure it hurt her pride and she was mad enough to post what she did.

So far it seems that the vote of popular opinion is on her side, so I guess she is winning.

Both parties have stated their opinions, so let's move on.[/QUOTE]Her take on the whole situation is quite reasonable and I don't blame her a bit for not going, it's all funny business. What rubbed me the wrong way were the thinly veiled threats about knowing his name and address and so forth. It makes her seem petty and frankly dangerous. Make one wrong move and she'll out you. I'm not taking that kind of chance.

[QUOTE=BobbyLinn;4292211]I agree with TMeiser about this. I sometimes travel for my business as well, and I surely would not drive that far without a partial payment up front to at least cover my travel time and expenses, loss of work time would also have to be a part of the consideration. There is no doubt that communication or lack thereof was a big factor here between the two of them, but bottom line is there would have to be some serious understanding and deposit accounted for. Jesse has done an outcall visit to me, I think I was only 15-20 minute drive for her, and we arranged travel funds as part of our agreement. She arrived on time and I enjoyed her services, so I have some idea as to the 'kind of lady' that she is and the integrity of her word. It also appears from his posts that RaiderKid is a trusted senior with a lot of reviews. The upside to this episode is that no one is out anything except time communicating and hurt feelings, with lessons learned (hopefully on both sides). BTW TMeister, it's not brain science either, LOL.[/QUOTE]Well now that I think about it, sending $500 to someone's PayPal or Venmo account is a big risk, even though Jesse Jane has a reliable rep in here. RaiderKid would have a right to be pissed if he sent the $500 and Jesse ghosted him.

Modern technology could mitigate this large financial risk. For example, instead of sending a $500 lump sum to Jane's PayPal account, I would send her $100 and tell her to text me a video when her Uber passes under a sign on I-70 near Springfield. Once RaiderKid verifies that she's on her way and he knows she is already in Springfield, then send her another $100 when she reaches Columbus and can text another video confirming she just arrived there. Do this again when she is just north of Columbus, and then Mansfield, and finally arrives in Akron. That way, Raider is getting constant confirmation she is on her way, but Jesse is also covered in case Raider stops sending the $100 payments and will still have enough funds to Uber back to Cincy.

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If you have that much money to blow for one night of sex. Why wouldn't you just add a little to the anti and make a fun couple weeks of it in Mexico or even further south?

Seeing as traveling isn't the issue as you don't mind waiting 5 hours for a lady to arrive to you.

Are the provider's in your area seriously so poor of quality that you would pay that for a few hours of pleasure? XD.

And to the lady. Jesse.

Honey you knew damn well this guy was playing you. Who does that? I mean honestly xD.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;4251449]I don't have recommendations on supplements, medicines, or whatever to take. But I do have a recommendation on what not to take, and that's alcohol.

I've never had a problem with performance, but ever since I quit drinking, it's noticeably better. When combined with things like refraining from getting off for a period of time prior to hooking up and with staying in relatively decent shape physically, the loads I shoot off now are as good as anything I had in my younger days.[/QUOTE]Ditto on using L-Argenine supplement to increase circulation naturally.

Pick up the June issue of Mens Health Magazine. Good info on small diet changes for penis health (attached).

Contacted a number that switches out girls at a specific location. There were reviews a long time ago of the then current woman. I had texted but never went. Until now.

I could feel the human trafficked vibe. Girl was Asian, my first one that wasn't from an AMP. Now at an AMP, they may be somehow trafficked, but as far as I've ever seen, the girl do extras according to how they feel about you. You are going for the massage, and cannot expect more. This was an advtertised FS session. I won't review the session here. But what I will say is the timidness of the girl was a killer, it seemed like she's stuck in that room, constantly on a tablet, and likely in contact with a remote handler. Dressing in attire for men such as myself. I just got a feeling that I never got from the AMP ladies, nor the few advertisers I've used.

This is a modern day Rube Goldberg.

[QUOTE=TMeister;4292560]

Modern technology could mitigate this large financial risk. For example, instead of sending a $500 lump sum to Jane's PayPal account, I would send her $100 and tell her to text me a video when her Uber passes under a sign on I-70 near Springfield. Once RaiderKid verifies that she's on her way and he knows she is already in Springfield, then send her another $100 when she reaches Columbus and can text another video confirming she just arrived there. Do this again when she is just north of Columbus, and then Mansfield, and finally arrives in Akron. That way, Raider is getting constant confirmation she is on her way, but Jesse is also covered in case Raider stops sending the $100 payments and will still have enough funds to Uber back to Cincy.[/QUOTE]

[quote=vinniekramer;4295164]this is a modern day rube goldberg.[/quote]that is hilarious!

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;4295164]This is a modern day Rube Goldberg.[/QUOTE]The basic problem with your thesis is that you provide no better method for guaranteeing both sides are not getting ripped off.

Innovators like me change the world. Status quo people like you just stick around for awhile and then die. Kinda like mold on a rock LOL.

[QUOTE=TMeister;4296596]The basic problem with your thesis is that you provide no better method for guaranteeing both sides are not getting ripped off.

Innovators like me change the world. Status quo people like you just stick around for awhile and then die. Kinda like mold on a rock LOL.[/QUOTE]Mold has feelings too! LOL.

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back for your innovation.

You're clearly the next Steve Jobs.

Sheesh. No one can take a joke anymore.

[QUOTE=TMeister;4296596]The basic problem with your thesis is that you provide no better method for guaranteeing both sides are not getting ripped off.

Innovators like me change the world. Status quo people like you just stick around for awhile and then die. Kinda like mold on a rock LOL.[/QUOTE]